Tired while losing weight / was I'm tired what am I doing wrong?

[Guest guest]

Er, why do I have a feeling of deja vue? You know, carousel cheesecakes

(love that name!), you ran this subjectline about a month back or a little more,

with the same problem and had the same responses, more or less, including

discussion of herbal remedies LOL Remember??? ;=)

 

I'm sorry you are feeling so very tired. You say 'tired' and that would lead one

to think that you are depressed (and you did go off your antidepressants when

you 'became' a vegetarian last month) - and you say your doctor wants you to

go on antidepressants again. I take it you are still unwilling to do so because

you fear they will make you gain weight? (Well, I think that was your worry a

few weeks ago.) I can understand that, after all your hard work to lose - and

your great success. It would mean a slower weight loss and careful diet

management :=(

 

But there are a couple of things here that I want to question, okay?

 

You say you had more energy when you were still eating meat and dairy. I

think, from that comment, that you are still believing that your tiredness comes

from not taking in enough protein. It's sounding as if you were on one of those

high protein diets before January, am I right? (It also suggests that you in

some way feel a vegan diet is unhealthy *for you*. The mind is very

accomodating.)

 

Also, you say you do eat carbohydrates in the fruits and vegetables you eat

and that you bake wholegrain bread. Good. Carbohydrates are splendid for

energy! And btw great for the nerves too, if you're feeling down - you know

that. Are you taking in enough complex carbohydrates?? Just a thought.

Because if you were on a high protein diet previously your concept of

'enough' complex carbohydrates might differ from what is healthy. I note that

you say that the major part of your diet is made up of green vegetables.

 

You also mention feeling exhausted after five minutes of exercise and feeling

you have to collapse. Perhaps gentler exercise? Walking is a good exercise,

for example. How long can you keep that up, at a steady (not 'racing') pace?

Other gentler exercises might be in order until your have lost some more

weight and until your feeling of tiredness diminishes. (I am noting that your

doctor could find nothing wrong with you after a batch of tests, so I am

assuming there is no obvious medical condition.)

 

I think you have had some very sensible suggestions from the group about

diet and drinking enough water. Dehydration is the pits - and dangerous.

 

You'll see I've changed the subject line a little, btw LOL I hate to think of

you

going around saying to yourself that you must be doing something wrong!

Expecially when you are obviously trying to do everything right!!!

 

Best love,

 

Pat ;=)

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the response. It has been a couple of years since I have needed

antidepressants. I do not miss the protein. Every once in a while I will

crave it then I will just increase my protein in other ways. I can walk but

not much. I do clean my house often as I have a very sloppy 5 year old and

it will take more energy trying to make her clean up then me doing it. I

Know she still needs to do it herself but it is partly my fault for letting

her have so many toys so I have given many away.

 

 

 

I do sleep better now but I think many of my symptoms are in the way of

depression. But exercise does wear me out quickly. I am getting some chest

pains that I think are digestive related. I have had heart tests and

everything looks fine. Last night all I wanted to do was eat. My body must

have been looking for something and when I finally figured out it wanted

some fat I ate an avocado. Yummy. But before that I had eaten too much

food and went to bed with those same chest pressures. Too much food in the

belly. Good grief. I know the antidepressants I am back on is also an

appetite suppressant. This should prove interesting. I will need to keep a

food diary to be sure I am eating enough.

 

 

 

I am doing a cleansing diet again right now as I have been having some very

irregular bowel movements. My diet is consistent so something else is

changing in there. Much of this may just be my body's way of healing after

all of the unhealthy foods I have been putting into it over the years. I

thought I was eating right with the South Beach diet but it just wasn't

right for me.

 

 

 

My cysts have shrunk that were on my ovaries which means my hormones have

improved and I thank the meatless and dairy free diet for that. Perhaps it

is just the hormone changes who knows but I am definitely suffering from

depression again. So it is back to those awful pills again. I have tried

many natural remedies with no luck and only one prescription pill has ever

worked for me. Good old Prozac. I should be driving you all crazy within a

couple of weeks with my bubbly self.

 

 

 

Sorry about the Carousel Cheesecakes name. I have had this screen name for

years am not giving it up. I love carousels and my husband makes the best

cheesecakes ever. Too bad I don't eat them. I don't miss them either. We

also sell them to small restaurants. So the name is actually the name of

our small bakery and I wonder why I hate donuts.

 

 

 

Kirsten

 

 

 

 

veggiehound [veggiehound]

Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:29 AM

 

Tired while losing weight / was I'm tired what

am I doing wrong?

 

 

 

 

Er, why do I have a feeling of deja vue? You know, carousel cheesecakes

(love that name!), you ran this subjectline about a month back or a little

more,

with the same problem and had the same responses, more or less, including

discussion of herbal remedies LOL Remember??? ;=)

 

I'm sorry you are feeling so very tired. You say 'tired' and that would lead

one

to think that you are depressed (and you did go off your antidepressants

when

you 'became' a vegetarian last month) - and you say your doctor wants you to

 

go on antidepressants again. I take it you are still unwilling to do so

because

you fear they will make you gain weight? (Well, I think that was your worry

a

few weeks ago.) I can understand that, after all your hard work to lose -

and

your great success. It would mean a slower weight loss and careful diet

management :=(

 

But there are a couple of things here that I want to question, okay?

 

You say you had more energy when you were still eating meat and dairy. I

think, from that comment, that you are still believing that your tiredness

comes

from not taking in enough protein. It's sounding as if you were on one of

those

high protein diets before January, am I right? (It also suggests that you in

 

some way feel a vegan diet is unhealthy *for you*. The mind is very

accomodating.)

 

Also, you say you do eat carbohydrates in the fruits and vegetables you eat

and that you bake wholegrain bread. Good. Carbohydrates are splendid for

energy! And btw great for the nerves too, if you're feeling down - you know

that. Are you taking in enough complex carbohydrates?? Just a thought.

Because if you were on a high protein diet previously your concept of

'enough' complex carbohydrates might differ from what is healthy. I note

that

you say that the major part of your diet is made up of green vegetables.

 

You also mention feeling exhausted after five minutes of exercise and

feeling

you have to collapse. Perhaps gentler exercise? Walking is a good exercise,

for example. How long can you keep that up, at a steady (not 'racing') pace?

 

Other gentler exercises might be in order until your have lost some more

weight and until your feeling of tiredness diminishes. (I am noting that

your

doctor could find nothing wrong with you after a batch of tests, so I am

assuming there is no obvious medical condition.)

 

I think you have had some very sensible suggestions from the group about

diet and drinking enough water. Dehydration is the pits - and dangerous.

 

You'll see I've changed the subject line a little, btw LOL I hate to think

of you

going around saying to yourself that you must be doing something wrong!

Expecially when you are obviously trying to do everything right!!!

 

Best love,

 

Pat ;=)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

_____

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi ;=) Good to hear from you so soon!

 

Okay, first, don't ever apologize for 'carousel cheesecakes' - I think it's a

great

name! I love it!!! I too am in love with carousels (not to ride on, not any more

LOL) but to look at and as an image in my mind. Even so-called 'bad' images

of carousels (as in Hitchcock's 'Strangers on a Train') don't turn me against

the

idea! And cheesecakes? Oh, that's a pretty image too! Yes, I thought maybe

that was the name of your bakery - should be a lucky name for it!

 

Okay, so it's back on the ol Prozac, is it? Well, I have heard it's an appetite

suppressant - and sometimes affects bowel function (which might be the kind

of problem you're having?) a little. Soooo, you're warning us, eh? Gonna be

back to bubbly you??? That'll be great! LOL I like that. No one likes being

depressed.

 

Okay, about the walking, I'd say do a little, always bearing in mind that you

have to get back from where you've walked *to*, without overdoing it for now.

As for your housework, that's a neverending job, of course - don't punish

yourself for being tired by making yourself unhappy about what you can't

always do. It'll all come right in time. Honest! And no it is *not* repeat *not*

all

your fault that your 5 yr old makes a mess or that you have given her so many

toys ;=) That's 5 yr olds. It's a wonder you can see the floor with a five yr

old

around the house LOL Relax, mommie, you're doing great.

 

I'm pleased you're sleeping better - lying awake at night is no good at all. All

kinds of thoughts come out of the darkness around three o'clock in the

morning that have no business in anyone's mind :=(

 

So a couple of weeks or so, eh? ;=) Well, as I say, we are warned! LOL Good

luck with it - I'd love to see you bubbly and happy again!

 

Big hugs.

 

Best love,

 

Pat ;=)

[Guest guest]

I often wonder if the drug makes me too happy. I am worried about the

sexual side effects. The first time I was on it I couldn't get enough. My

doctor did not believe me but my worn out husband told him to believe it.

LOL. I hope to have the same effects again. So does my husband. However

it I get the opposite effect which has also happened anyone have any herbal

or good food knowledge about it?

 

 

 

Kirsten

 

 

 

 

veggiehound [veggiehound]

Tuesday, February 22, 2005 2:19 PM

 

Re: Tired while losing weight / was I'm tired

what am I doing wrong?

 

 

 

 

Hi ;=) Good to hear from you so soon!

 

Okay, first, don't ever apologize for 'carousel cheesecakes' - I think it's

a great

name! I love it!!! I too am in love with carousels (not to ride on, not any

more

LOL) but to look at and as an image in my mind. Even so-called 'bad' images

of carousels (as in Hitchcock's 'Strangers on a Train') don't turn me

against the

idea! And cheesecakes? Oh, that's a pretty image too! Yes, I thought maybe

that was the name of your bakery - should be a lucky name for it!

 

Okay, so it's back on the ol Prozac, is it? Well, I have heard it's an

appetite

suppressant - and sometimes affects bowel function (which might be the kind

of problem you're having?) a little. Soooo, you're warning us, eh? Gonna be

back to bubbly you??? That'll be great! LOL I like that. No one likes being

depressed.

 

Okay, about the walking, I'd say do a little, always bearing in mind that

you

have to get back from where you've walked *to*, without overdoing it for

now.

As for your housework, that's a neverending job, of course - don't punish

yourself for being tired by making yourself unhappy about what you can't

always do. It'll all come right in time. Honest! And no it is *not* repeat

*not* all

your fault that your 5 yr old makes a mess or that you have given her so

many

toys ;=) That's 5 yr olds. It's a wonder you can see the floor with a five

yr old

around the house LOL Relax, mommie, you're doing great.

 

I'm pleased you're sleeping better - lying awake at night is no good at all.

All

kinds of thoughts come out of the darkness around three o'clock in the

morning that have no business in anyone's mind :=(

 

So a couple of weeks or so, eh? ;=) Well, as I say, we are warned! LOL Good

luck with it - I'd love to see you bubbly and happy again!

 

Big hugs.

 

Best love,

 

Pat ;=)

 

 

 

 

 

 

_____

 

 

[Guest guest]

If you're back on the Prozac, could that be contributing to your feelings of

being tired? I know depression has that effect also, but when my husband went

on Prozac, until his body adjusted to it, he was way tired and sleepy. Just a

thought.

 

God's Peace,

Gayle

 

 

[Guest guest]

I just started back on them yesterday.

 

 

 

Kirsten

 

 

 

 

quintmom [quintmom]

Tuesday, February 22, 2005 3:46 PM

 

Re: Re: Tired while losing weight / was I'm

tired what am I doing wrong?

 

 

 

If you're back on the Prozac, could that be contributing to your feelings of

being tired? I know depression has that effect also, but when my husband

went on Prozac, until his body adjusted to it, he was way tired and sleepy.

Just a thought.

 

God's Peace,

Gayle

 

 

[Guest guest]

Probably not, then. I didn't say it was a good thought, just a thought. ;o)

 

God's Peace,

Gayle

-

Carousel Cheesecakes

Tuesday, February 22, 2005 4:12 PM

RE: Re: Tired while losing weight / was I'm

tired what am I doing wrong?

 

 

I just started back on them yesterday.

 

 

 

Kirsten

 

 

 

quintmom [quintmom]

Tuesday, February 22, 2005 3:46 PM

Re: Re: Tired while losing weight / was I'm

tired what am I doing wrong?

 

 

 

If you're back on the Prozac, could that be contributing to your feelings of

being tired? I know depression has that effect also, but when my husband

went on Prozac, until his body adjusted to it, he was way tired and sleepy.

Just a thought.

 

God's Peace,

Gayle

 

[Guest guest]

Keep the thoughts coming, Maybe we can figure this out.

 

 

 

Kirsten

 

 

 

 

quintmom [quintmom]

Tuesday, February 22, 2005 4:41 PM

 

Re: Re: Tired while losing weight / was I'm

tired what am I doing wrong?

 

 

 

Probably not, then. I didn't say it was a good thought, just a thought.

;o)

 

God's Peace,

Gayle

-

Carousel Cheesecakes

Tuesday, February 22, 2005 4:12 PM

RE: Re: Tired while losing weight / was I'm

tired what am I doing wrong?

 

 

I just started back on them yesterday.

 

 

 

Kirsten

 

 

 

quintmom [quintmom]

Tuesday, February 22, 2005 3:46 PM

Re: Re: Tired while losing weight / was I'm

tired what am I doing wrong?

 

 

 

If you're back on the Prozac, could that be contributing to your feelings

of

being tired? I know depression has that effect also, but when my husband

went on Prozac, until his body adjusted to it, he was way tired and

sleepy.

Just a thought.

 

God's Peace,

Gayle