Guest guest Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 This today via Fidyl's SoFlaVegans. Best, Pat ----- Call yourself a veggie? http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/vote/votes/newsid_3786000/3786941.stm A new survey has shown loads of vegetarians in the UK are secretly munching on dead animals too. So are you the kind of vegetarian who sneaks some fish and chips now and then, or maybe bacon sandwiches are too much of a temptation. Call yourself a veggie? 3864 Votes Cast Yes 25.31% No 53.70% Yes, but I eat fish 9.73% Yes, but I eat fish and poultry 5.12% Yes, but I eat fish, poultry and red meat 6.13% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Yes, Pat, I would believe... I hear this all the time - " I'm vegan except for eating fish. " " I'm vegetarian, I only eat chicken. " Maybe it bears clarification and repeating one more time (please pardon me for shouting): IF YOU EAT ANY LIVING CREATURE (MEAT, FISH, FOWL, BUGS, REPTILES, AMPHIBIANS) YOU ARE NOT A VEGETARIAN. (Climbs down off of her soapbox Karen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 >I hear this all the time - " I'm vegan > except for eating fish. " " I'm vegetarian, I only eat chicken. " Yes, and polls like this don't help, do they? If a 'reliable' source sets up a poll and asks how many vegetarians eat this or that kind of meat, then the general populace is going to learn two things (at the very least): 1. A strange definition of vegetarianism and 2. That vegetarians 'secretly' eat meat This places meat-eaters in a superior position because they, at least, don't tell fibs about their status, admitting openly and honestly as they do to murdering and devouring their fellow creatures. Wonky logic. But the definitions - and the poll - were developed *not* by a vegetarian, I rather think. . . . Nevertheless, the stats are interesting. 25 per cent of so-called veggies eat meat? In North America it's said to be 60 per cent. The four per cent vegetarian seems to be consistent in both parts of the world. Best, Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 , " veggiehound " <veggiehound> wrote: > > >I hear this all the time - " I'm vegan > > except for eating fish. " " I'm vegetarian, I only eat chicken. " > > Nevertheless, the stats are interesting. 25 per cent of so-called veggies eat > meat? In North America it's said to be 60 per cent. The four per cent > vegetarian seems to be consistent in both parts of the world. Pat, Good morning. Please indulge me as I add some thoughts to the conversation regarding supposed veggies who secretly eat meat. I agree a poll like this is interesting and gives a false and strange definition of vegetarianism, but remember, that my physician, (main-stream America) recommended " remaining vegetarian, but add some fish or some chicken to your diet, to get the much needed protein your diet is lacking. " This is the kind of information people are " fed " regularly. Most people don't have a clear understanding to begin with, of what the vegetarian or vegan lifestyle is. Exp: An Aunt of mine often declared she was a vegetarian, many years ago... she had an interpretation of the Bible that she preached to anyone that would listen, that involved not eating animals with a cloven hoof. This made her a vegetarian in her mind, she ate fowl and fish, as she thought the Bible justified this.... *shakes head*......... *climbing up on the soapbox* I wanted to speak as to the United States and the importance in this society of " fitting in " , of " being accepted " and the way that 'flock-like' behaviour is taken advantage of. There are two opposing modes of thought operating here. 1. The first being (what has been my experience) that it is not acceptable in this culture to be different, unique, an independent thinker. People routinely say one thing behind closed doors, but in public will support whatever is being preached by a particular leader. (this is not unique to the U.S.) When I honestly state I'm a vegetarian, I am attacked with propaganda such as... " What about the American Agricultural system, all the Beef Farmers and the Dairy Farmers?, You are putting Americans out of work by refusing to put your American dollar back into their industry. " I've even heard " It's unamerican to not eat meat! " I'm accused of being vegetarian, only to be " different, unusual, to rebel. " One person got very passionate about the subject and gave me the classic (patriotic, guilt inducing) ultimatum... " America! Love it or leave it! " People generally don't want to be singled out or labeled as different, so they will say what they think others want them to say, rather than stand firm on their beliefs. 2. The second being (what I've been accused of) that there are those who would say they were vegetarian, just because they want to " buck the system " and be seen as different. It's " trendy " , to be vegetarian and it attracts a lot of (negative) attention from main- stream America. I've recently heard the term " near-vegetarian " which I think speaks for itself. My point is, It's important to acknowledge a poll like this is going to be slanted and cannot be accurate based on the fact that people may have answered as they thought others (society) wanted them to or would not have wanted them to, rather than how they themselves believe. *climbing down off the soapbox now*... Wow! Not sure where that came from but that felt good... Peace! Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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