Guest guest Posted August 27, 2003 Report Share Posted August 27, 2003 ***Flax seed and flax oil is an excellent vegan source of Omega 3's. . ..and so are walnuts.*** The Scoop on Salmon by Leanne Ely, C.N.C. You hear it all the time-salmon is so good for you because of the Omega 3 fatty acids it offers those who partake. But the scoop on salmon is that you better make sure you're taking a walk on the wild side. Farmed salmon may be filled with carcinogenic PCB's (polychlorinated biphenyls-byproducts of oils, hydraulic fluids, transformer and electrical capacitors). PCB's are problematic because they disrupt the endocrine system. In other words, hormones making is altered causing such problems as cancer, infertility and maybe even other sexual changes. This is still being studied. And while PCB's are banned, they persist in the environment and are harbored in animal fat. In nature, salmon is a predator and will eat other fish, besides the usual bugs and such. For the most part, wild salmon live in fairly pristine areas and their natural food is clean. However, farmed salmon is fed a commercial fish meal made with fish that comes from all over the world. According to Jane Houlihan, vice president for research with the Environmental Working Group, the commercial fishmeal is the problem as it is highly contaminated with PCB's. PCB levels are much higher in farmed fish-as much as 16 times the PCB's found in wild salmon. Add to that the fact that farmed fish are also up to twice the fat of wild salmon and you have a product with a reputation for being healthy but in reality, isn't so hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 You know what? I am SO sick of this. *tossing temper tantrum* I can't win!!! I just can't win!!! I've been using fish and fish oils to control my mood disorder for a few months and it works better than any of the rx meds I've ever taken. But there's all the crap in the fish to worry about, not to mention that my daughter is starting to ask when I'm going to stop with this experiment and go back to being vegetarian. And the guilt doesn't make it any easier to choke down the stuff! I just can't win Sandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 Have you tried Flaxseed Oil or Evening Primrose oil ? How about St. John's Wort ? Sandra Mort Saturday, August 30, 2003 10:20 PM Re:The Scoop on Salmon You know what? I am SO sick of this. *tossing temper tantrum* I can't win!!! I just can't win!!! I've been using fish and fish oils to control my mood disorder for a few months and it works better than any of the rx meds I've ever taken. But there's all the crap in the fish to worry about, not to mention that my daughter is starting to ask when I'm going to stop with this experiment and go back to being vegetarian. And the guilt doesn't make it any easier to choke down the stuff! I just can't win Sandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 Sanda, have you tried flax seed oil? It contains all the essential fatty acids that fish oil does and may do the same thing for your body. You might try it and see what happens. It tastes strange at first, but over time I've come to enjoy the flavor. Sorry for sending in such a " discouraging " post. . .sometimes it's easier to hide our heads in the sand, isn't it? ~ LaDonna - Re:The Scoop on Salmon >>>You know what? I am SO sick of this. *tossing temper tantrum* I can't win!!! I just can't win!!! I've been using fish and fish oils to control my mood disorder for a few months and it works better than any of the rx meds I've ever taken. But there's all the crap in the fish to worry about, not to mention that my daughter is starting to ask when I'm going to stop with this experiment and go back to being vegetarian. And the guilt doesn't make it any easier to choke down the stuff! I just can't win Sandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 I take an organic flax seed oil I get from the health food store. It does take a little getting used too but its really not bad. Suzanne --- Tea Cozy <teacups wrote: > Sanda, have you tried flax seed oil? It contains > all the essential fatty > acids that fish oil does and may do the same thing > for your body. You might > try it and see what happens. It tastes strange at > first, but over time I've > come to enjoy the flavor. > > Sorry for sending in such a " discouraging " post. . > .sometimes it's easier to > hide our heads in the sand, isn't it? > > ~ LaDonna > > > - > Re:The Scoop on > Salmon > > > >>>You know what? I am SO sick of this. *tossing > temper tantrum* I can't > win!!! I just can't win!!! I've been using fish and > fish oils to control my > mood disorder for a few months and it works better > than any of the rx meds > I've ever taken. But there's all the crap in the > fish to worry about, not > to mention that my daughter is starting to ask when > I'm going to stop with > this experiment and go back to being vegetarian. > And the guilt doesn't make > it any easier to choke down the stuff! I just can't > win > > Sandra > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 I mix the flax seed oil in a glass of orange juice or carrot/apple juice, add a heaping tablespoon of nutritional yeast and it is not bad at all. Of course, I like the taste of the yeast. My mother swore by evening primrose oil. - Tea Cozy Sunday, August 31, 2003 12:41 PM Re: Re:The Scoop on Salmon Sanda, have you tried flax seed oil? It contains all the essential fatty acids that fish oil does and may do the same thing for your body. You might try it and see what happens. It tastes strange at first, but over time I've come to enjoy the flavor. Sorry for sending in such a " discouraging " post. . .sometimes it's easier to hide our heads in the sand, isn't it? ~ LaDonna - Re:The Scoop on Salmon >>>You know what? I am SO sick of this. *tossing temper tantrum* I can't win!!! I just can't win!!! I've been using fish and fish oils to control my mood disorder for a few months and it works better than any of the rx meds I've ever taken. But there's all the crap in the fish to worry about, not to mention that my daughter is starting to ask when I'm going to stop with this experiment and go back to being vegetarian. And the guilt doesn't make it any easier to choke down the stuff! I just can't win Sandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2003 Report Share Posted September 1, 2003 Sandra If you had to take a medicine derived from an animal product, to remain alive, would your family be upset and guilting you. I think it's your own personal choice whether to take fish oils or some plant based EFA. If it works for you, don't stop on account of someone else's opinion. There are many ingredients in commercial traditional medicine that make almost every pill from anti-biotic to anti-seizure medicine not vegan and sometimes not even vegetarian. Would your daughter tell you to stop your heart medication if she knew it contain lactose (milk sugar) and some animal derived steroids? Please, if you think it's right and helpful to you, and you are comfortable with your decision stay strong about taking it. If you feel that she might have a point an borage, hemp or evening primrose might help just as well, give them a reasonable try. It's the only way you will know for sure. Sometimes people have our best interests at heart but they don't have our heart in their best interests. BL ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ What does Yhwh Elohim require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and To walk humbly with your Elohim. Baruch haba b'shem Adonai hahcim (Micah) 6:8 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2003 Report Share Posted September 1, 2003 Unfortunately, the efas are NOT the same, and the ones in flax seed oil are not recommended for bipolar people, as it can bring on manic episodes. Oh, and I knew already, I was just venting. Sandra, damned if she does, damned if she doesn't... but if I do at least I'm functioning while I'm damned Sanda, have you tried flax seed oil? It contains all the essential fatty acids that fish oil does and may do the same thing for your body. You might try it and see what happens. It tastes strange at first, but over time I've come to enjoy the flavor. Sorry for sending in such a " discouraging " post. . .sometimes it's easier to hide our heads in the sand, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 Does Evening Primrose produce the same effect? - Sandra Mort Monday, September 01, 2003 8:51 AM Re: Re:The Scoop on Salmon Unfortunately, the efas are NOT the same, and the ones in flax seed oil are not recommended for bipolar people, as it can bring on manic episodes. Oh, and I knew already, I was just venting. Sandra, damned if she does, damned if she doesn't... but if I do at least I'm functioning while I'm damned Sanda, have you tried flax seed oil? It contains all the essential fatty acids that fish oil does and may do the same thing for your body. You might try it and see what happens. It tastes strange at first, but over time I've come to enjoy the flavor. Sorry for sending in such a " discouraging " post. . .sometimes it's easier to hide our heads in the sand, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 I'm curious too, Sylvia and Sandra. . . .. . .and Sandra, you are allowed to vent all you want! I'm sorry about the dilemma you are in. . .and you need to do whatever it takes to care for youself properly. Can you share more information with us on " how " the efas in fish and the plant sources (flax, walnuts, primrose oil) are not the same? I'm curious. Thanks, LaDonna - SYLVIA TERRY Tuesday, September 02, 2003 5:18 PM Re: Re:The Scoop on Salmon Does Evening Primrose produce the same effect? - Sandra Mort Re: Re:The Scoop on Salmon Unfortunately, the efas are NOT the same, and the ones in flax seed oil are not recommended for bipolar people, as it can bring on manic episodes. Oh, and I knew already, I was just venting. Sandra, damned if she does, damned if she doesn't... but if I do at least I'm functioning while I'm damned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 Nope My psychiatrist recommended a book called the Omega 3 Connection, if you're interested in more info. Sandra Does Evening Primrose produce the same effect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 BTW, my ex found out that standard Lithium does not work for him, it has to be timed release Lithobid. - Sandra Mort Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:24 AM Re: Re:The Scoop on Salmon Nope My psychiatrist recommended a book called the Omega 3 Connection, if you're interested in more info. Sandra Does Evening Primrose produce the same effect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 All lithium did for my husband was teach him not to have emotions. He functions much better with herbal, mineral and other alternate therapies. BL ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ What does Yhwh Elohim require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and To walk humbly with your Elohim. Baruch haba b'shem Adonai hahcim (Micah) 6:8 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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