Guest guest Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 People who have not delt with it really don't understand. The families and individuals who deal with it every day know there is nothing simple about it. My pregnant granddaughter cannot take her medication and it is worse than any hormone rage you can image. There was a movie the other day about a woman who chose to have a baby, knowing what would happen when she went off her Lithium, she had to be institutionalized during her pregnancy because of her VIOLENT mood swings. My ex-husband tried to kill my oldest son when he was on one of his rampages, another time he tried to run me down with a Blazer; he bogged down in the sand. Other times he was sooo imaginative and sweet, then there were the down swings when he couldn't function at all. - eye of newt Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:50 AM Re: Digest Number 695 Snowbythesea at Snowbythesea wrote: > Hello Rebecca - > > If only it was that simple... Bipolar disorder is so far beyond regular or > situational 'mood swings' that the sensible approach you suggested is > unfortunately, impossible. I think a lot of people don't realize how serious mental disorders can be and that their effects are far more far-reaching than mental. The physical has *so much* effect on how our brains function. My husband suffers from generalized anxiety disorder and is prone to depression. It's only recently that we've discovered his diet has a direct impact on his brain--specifically, he has some type of hypoglycemia and one of his major symptoms is anxiety attacks. Sadly, we've discovered that he *cannot* manage this on a soy-free (I'm severely allergic) vegetarian diet. It's truly impossible. For whatever reasons, he needs flesh to manage his blood sugar. He doesn't like to be limited like this, but we both recognize that keeping his health and mind stable are of utmost importance. I'm still vegetarian. Our shared meals are vegetarian (and often vegan, but I'm not vegan). He chooses and cooks his own meat. Oddly enough, for other metabolic reasons, I *cannot* consume meat without severe physical consequences. Fortunately, I don't *mind* being vegetarian and prefer to be this way. Some folks might choose to be less healthy, but I'm disabled and cannot work and we rely on his income. He chooses to follow the healthiest path *for him* and tries his best to deal with the ethical dilemmas. I don't fault *anyone* for choosing the healthiest path for themselves. Indeed, I think it takes a strong person to realize that their diet is having a negative impact on their health and to make the change which will benefit them the most. If that means giving up meat or giving up veganism, it's still a hard choice to make. ygg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 Sylvia My husband was diagnosed BiPolar 13 years ago. I know what you are talking about. While it is not a cure, is your grand-daughter taking extra b vitamins. B6 is particularly helpful in mood control, but with the exception of niacin (b3) which is useful in cholestrol control, my research shows the b complex should always be taken in combination. Jamieson happens to make a great time released b100. Keith is much better if he takes 200 - 300 mg per day as recommended by Dr. Lendon Smith in the early 80s. New research into schizophrenia is also showing that b complex helps with mediating schizophrenia in many female patients. What about fish oils, is your grand-daughter taking those too? BL ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ What does Yhwh Elohim require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and To walk humbly with your Elohim. Baruch haba b'shem Adonai hahcim (Micah) 6:8 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 My granddaughter is in the last weeks of a pregnancy that has been rocky to say the least. They are living on next to nothing + food stamps & Medicaid. She may be induced in the next few days and then she can go back to Zoloft which works for her and which Medicaid will pay for. Neither of us are in any position to buy supplements, I wish we were. - Keith & Brenda-Lee Olson Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:16 PM Re: BiPolar Disorder Sylvia My husband was diagnosed BiPolar 13 years ago. I know what you are talking about. While it is not a cure, is your grand-daughter taking extra b vitamins. B6 is particularly helpful in mood control, but with the exception of niacin (b3) which is useful in cholestrol control, my research shows the b complex should always be taken in combination. Jamieson happens to make a great time released b100. Keith is much better if he takes 200 - 300 mg per day as recommended by Dr. Lendon Smith in the early 80s. New research into schizophrenia is also showing that b complex helps with mediating schizophrenia in many female patients. What about fish oils, is your grand-daughter taking those too? BL ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ What does Yhwh Elohim require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and To walk humbly with your Elohim. Baruch haba b'shem Adonai hahcim (Micah) 6:8 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 That's sad Sylvia, but hopefully she has been able to receive prenatal vitamins. Here with Pop, or pregnancy outreach programs which will provide these free of charge and many physicians also keep " samples " that they give to patients. Would she consider asking her primary are physician to give her some b vitamin shots? BL ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ What does Yhwh Elohim require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and To walk humbly with your Elohim. Baruch haba b'shem Adonai hahcim (Micah) 6:8 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 The state will only fund 'standard' obstetrical care. Once she is a nursing mother, they will ease up a bit. - Keith & Brenda-Lee Olson Thursday, September 04, 2003 6:04 PM Re: BiPolar Disorder That's sad Sylvia, but hopefully she has been able to receive prenatal vitamins. Here with Pop, or pregnancy outreach programs which will provide these free of charge and many physicians also keep " samples " that they give to patients. Would she consider asking her primary are physician to give her some b vitamin shots? BL ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ What does Yhwh Elohim require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and To walk humbly with your Elohim. Baruch haba b'shem Adonai hahcim (Micah) 6:8 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 She did get prenatal vitamins, they made her throw up! - SYLVIA TERRY Thursday, September 04, 2003 6:44 PM Re: BiPolar Disorder The state will only fund 'standard' obstetrical care. Once she is a nursing mother, they will ease up a bit. - Keith & Brenda-Lee Olson Thursday, September 04, 2003 6:04 PM Re: BiPolar Disorder That's sad Sylvia, but hopefully she has been able to receive prenatal vitamins. Here with Pop, or pregnancy outreach programs which will provide these free of charge and many physicians also keep " samples " that they give to patients. Would she consider asking her primary are physician to give her some b vitamin shots? BL ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ What does Yhwh Elohim require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and To walk humbly with your Elohim. Baruch haba b'shem Adonai hahcim (Micah) 6:8 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2003 Report Share Posted September 7, 2003 Be careful with prenatal vitamins. They are high in iron and if not asimulated well, they cause toxic effects and cause dark skin spots which are very hard to get rid of. Leilani SYLVIA TERRY <samzco34 wrote: The state will only fund 'standard' obstetrical care. Once she is a nursing mother, they will ease up a bit. - Keith & Brenda-Lee Olson Thursday, September 04, 2003 6:04 PM Re: BiPolar Disorder That's sad Sylvia, but hopefully she has been able to receive prenatal vitamins. Here with Pop, or pregnancy outreach programs which will provide these free of charge and many physicians also keep " samples " that they give to patients. Would she consider asking her primary are physician to give her some b vitamin shots? BL ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ What does Yhwh Elohim require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and To walk humbly with your Elohim. Baruch haba b'shem Adonai hahcim (Micah) 6:8 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2003 Report Share Posted September 7, 2003 The whole thing is moot as this is an any day thing now. She could not tolerate the prenatals anyway. They made her throw up. They gave me diarrhea - Leilani Mullen Sunday, September 07, 2003 4:55 AM Re: BiPolar Disorder Be careful with prenatal vitamins. They are high in iron and if not asimulated well, they cause toxic effects and cause dark skin spots which are very hard to get rid of. Leilani SYLVIA TERRY <samzco34 wrote: The state will only fund 'standard' obstetrical care. Once she is a nursing mother, they will ease up a bit. - Keith & Brenda-Lee Olson Thursday, September 04, 2003 6:04 PM Re: BiPolar Disorder That's sad Sylvia, but hopefully she has been able to receive prenatal vitamins. Here with Pop, or pregnancy outreach programs which will provide these free of charge and many physicians also keep " samples " that they give to patients. Would she consider asking her primary are physician to give her some b vitamin shots? BL ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ What does Yhwh Elohim require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and To walk humbly with your Elohim. Baruch haba b'shem Adonai hahcim (Micah) 6:8 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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