Guest guest Posted July 19, 2002 Report Share Posted July 19, 2002 B " H Yiddish for Grandma (see, I do know SOME Yiddish ;-) -- from my Bubby ;-) (I think it's nona in Ladino ;-) Debbie I know I'm just jumping in here, but if you don't mind me asking, what's a bubby? Hannah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2002 Report Share Posted July 20, 2002 Karl Marx? Wow! -- jojo - " compugraphd " <compugraphd Friday, July 19, 2002 1:14 PM Re: Yiddish (and Ladino) Lesson..... > B " H > > Well, with us, it all started when my grandfather died. We went > through his stuff and in his stuff were some notes about my great- > grandfather's family (this is my grandmother's father -- my > grandfather was not only his son-in-law but his protege too). My > grandfather was a genealogist (in addition to being a Kashrut and > Congregational Rabbi) and had done some research on Jews in Eastern > Europe. Most of his notes on this were in German (his sister, who is > currently living, KI " H, AMUSH -- [these are two Hebrew appreviations > meaning " without the evil eye " and " may she live to 120 " -- which is > the age Moses lived to and, therefore, traditionally the longest > life] in Israel -- and will be, G-d willing, 90 in November, is > translating and transcribing them [she's been working on this for > around 10 or so years])..... > > Anyway, my great-grandfather wrote some books on Responsa (questions > and answers asked of him by his congregants over the years on Jewish > law) -- 3 in total. The third volume was published after he died and > contained a very nice biography (which my brother and I translated > since most of our relatives don't understand -- or even read -- > Hebrew) -- the problem with translating it was that most of it was > written in biblical and talmudic and poetic Hebrew which sounds > lovely in Hebrew, but can sound trite if translated word for word in > English... But I digress.... > > In the introduction of each volume (which I have reproduced and > translated for my web site on my family page) mentioned several > Rabbis that my great-grandfather was descended from. Some of them > were famous enough in Jewish circles that I could get information on > them from Jewish Encyclopedias (which I was able to find in my > college's library). > > In the meantime, my two cousins (both of whom are considerably > younger than I -- both are in their 20s now while I'm in my late 40s) > got interested in this too (both when they were in their mid teens). > The one in Israel (who is my 2nd cousin -- her grandmother and my > grandmother were the first two of 9 children) got interested when her > father bought a program that was a genealogy database. So she and I > shared information. The one who lives in Arizona (whose parents are > both my 3rd cousins -- and they're each others' 3rd cousins too ;-) > and he became very interested in finding out if we were indeed > descended from Rashi (who is the first commentator children learn on > the Torah -- I find it amazing how much of what he said I remember > from elementary and High School)...... > > It's really nice when you find out that you're descended from famous > Rabbis. It's much easier to trace things..... (probably the most > famous person you all might have heard of that we are related to -- I > think something like 8th cousins 6 times removed or 6th cousins 8 > times removed, I forget what I figured out -- is Karl Marx.) > > Debbie > > > > Man! I want a family geneologist, too! I've always wanted to do > that, but it takes so much time and my family has not really kept up > with their ancestry That is wonderful that you know so much about > where you came from! I loved the " boring rye bread Ashkenazic " > comment, btw I have some suspicions of my own about my background > due to my fave food obsessions: dolmades (stuffed grape leaves,) > falafel, anything with tahini in it, etc... stinky, swarthy, garlic- > y, salty foods = YUMMY!!!!! LOL! > > -- jojo > > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2002 Report Share Posted July 20, 2002 Anyone know my great (...) great uncle Levi? Michael (Gee, I hope someone finds that funny, it's the only genealogy I know beyond those I've met) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2002 Report Share Posted July 20, 2002 Debbie Double wow! Jo > Karl Marx? Wow! > > -- jojo > - > " compugraphd " <compugraphd > > Friday, July 19, 2002 1:14 PM > Re: Yiddish (and Ladino) Lesson..... > > > > B " H > > > > Well, with us, it all started when my grandfather died. We went > > through his stuff and in his stuff were some notes about my great- > > grandfather's family (this is my grandmother's father -- my > > grandfather was not only his son-in-law but his protege too). My > > grandfather was a genealogist (in addition to being a Kashrut and > > Congregational Rabbi) and had done some research on Jews in Eastern > > Europe. Most of his notes on this were in German (his sister, who is > > currently living, KI " H, AMUSH -- [these are two Hebrew appreviations > > meaning " without the evil eye " and " may she live to 120 " -- which is > > the age Moses lived to and, therefore, traditionally the longest > > life] in Israel -- and will be, G-d willing, 90 in November, is > > translating and transcribing them [she's been working on this for > > around 10 or so years])..... > > > > Anyway, my great-grandfather wrote some books on Responsa (questions > > and answers asked of him by his congregants over the years on Jewish > > law) -- 3 in total. The third volume was published after he died and > > contained a very nice biography (which my brother and I translated > > since most of our relatives don't understand -- or even read -- > > Hebrew) -- the problem with translating it was that most of it was > > written in biblical and talmudic and poetic Hebrew which sounds > > lovely in Hebrew, but can sound trite if translated word for word in > > English... But I digress.... > > > > In the introduction of each volume (which I have reproduced and > > translated for my web site on my family page) mentioned several > > Rabbis that my great-grandfather was descended from. Some of them > > were famous enough in Jewish circles that I could get information on > > them from Jewish Encyclopedias (which I was able to find in my > > college's library). > > > > In the meantime, my two cousins (both of whom are considerably > > younger than I -- both are in their 20s now while I'm in my late 40s) > > got interested in this too (both when they were in their mid teens). > > The one in Israel (who is my 2nd cousin -- her grandmother and my > > grandmother were the first two of 9 children) got interested when her > > father bought a program that was a genealogy database. So she and I > > shared information. The one who lives in Arizona (whose parents are > > both my 3rd cousins -- and they're each others' 3rd cousins too ;-) > > and he became very interested in finding out if we were indeed > > descended from Rashi (who is the first commentator children learn on > > the Torah -- I find it amazing how much of what he said I remember > > from elementary and High School)...... > > > > It's really nice when you find out that you're descended from famous > > Rabbis. It's much easier to trace things..... (probably the most > > famous person you all might have heard of that we are related to -- I > > think something like 8th cousins 6 times removed or 6th cousins 8 > > times removed, I forget what I figured out -- is Karl Marx.) > > > > Debbie > > > > > > > > Man! I want a family geneologist, too! I've always wanted to do > > that, but it takes so much time and my family has not really kept up > > with their ancestry That is wonderful that you know so much about > > where you came from! I loved the " boring rye bread Ashkenazic " > > comment, btw I have some suspicions of my own about my background > > due to my fave food obsessions: dolmades (stuffed grape leaves,) > > falafel, anything with tahini in it, etc... stinky, swarthy, garlic- > > y, salty foods = YUMMY!!!!! LOL! > > > > -- jojo > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2002 Report Share Posted July 21, 2002 B " H Yeah, well, my Mom isn't too thrilled about cousin Karl -- he was very anti-Jewish and even more anti-Religious. As far as the communist stuff goes, that's not a problem ;-) Debbie Karl Marx? Wow! -- jojo - " compugraphd " <compugraphd Friday, July 19, 2002 1:14 PM Re: Yiddish (and Ladino) Lesson..... > B " H > <snip> > It's really nice when you find out that you're descended from famous > Rabbis. It's much easier to trace things..... (probably the most > famous person you all might have heard of that we are related to -- I > think something like 8th cousins 6 times removed or 6th cousins 8 > times removed, I forget what I figured out -- is Karl Marx.) > > Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2002 Report Share Posted July 21, 2002 Karl Marx, eh? Wow! I once stayed with a Jewish family and they were lovely people. Made me feel very welcome in their home. :-) Janey x > B " H > > Yeah, well, my Mom isn't too thrilled about cousin Karl -- he was > very anti-Jewish and even more anti-Religious. As far as the > communist stuff goes, that's not a problem ;-) > > Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2002 Report Share Posted July 21, 2002 Hi Debbie > Yeah, well, my Mom isn't too thrilled about cousin Karl -- he was > very anti-Jewish and even more anti-Religious. I'm intrigued - I knew Marx was anti-Religion, but i didn't know he was specifically anti-Jewish. Would you mind telling us a bit more? BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release 10/07/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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