fraggle time..as opposed to hammer time....or space time, o

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B " H

 

Though I have to admit, most people think my Mom (who is with me in

spirit, but can't give up her meat.... even the dropping of red meat

after her minor heart attack early last year didn't stick....) is at

least 10-15 years younger than she is, I love the reactions I get

when I tell people I'm 47. I have old driver's licenses and the only

difference is that I'm thinner now (in the 25 years I've been

vegetarian, I've lost about 80 or so pounds though I might have

gained some muscle since I started kickboxing a bit over a year ago).

 

Someone who's known me for probably 10 or so years recently wanted to

fix me up with someone -- I asked her how old he was (I go for

younger men, but I had a feeling he was a bit TOO young) and she

said, " Oh, I doubt he's over 32.... " (thinking, the way she said it I

could tell, that I was afraid he'd be too old). I chuckled and said

that I really don't mind the age difference, but I doubt he'd want to

go out with someone 15 years older... She had no idea ;-)

 

Debbie

 

 

 

Well if it's any consolation, in that picture of you on your profile

you still look quite young. 20's-ish. I have a theory that

vegetarianism drastically slows the ageing process. I had my hair

cut recently by a woman who was one year my senior. We looked at

*least* 10 years apart! And my best friend (we became veggie

together when we were freshman in high school) looks really young,

too. Just a thought...

 

-- jojo

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Wow Debbie! That is a real compliment for someone to think you are 15 years

younger than you really are!!! Your veggie diet and kickboxing obviously

suit you!!! :-)

 

Love, Janey

x

 

 

> B " H

 

> Someone who's known me for probably 10 or so years recently wanted to

> fix me up with someone -- I asked her how old he was (I go for

> younger men, but I had a feeling he was a bit TOO young) and she

> said, " Oh, I doubt he's over 32.... " (thinking, the way she said it I

> could tell, that I was afraid he'd be too old). I chuckled and said

> that I really don't mind the age difference, but I doubt he'd want to

> go out with someone 15 years older... She had no idea ;-)

>

> Debbie

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ok...sooo unfair..

i gained weight when i went veggie

i weighed 119 lbs in 1989....

add a few pounds to that today..like 40...grrrrrrr

and where this belly thing come from? i didn't sign up fer this..

granted, i know, as we age, metabolism drops like a stone, but i didn't think

i'd feel like i was eating stones...

gained 20 lbs last yr...

*sobs into paws*

fraggle

*pats belly*

 

" compugraphd " <compugraphd wrote:

 

>B " H

>

>Though I have to admit, most people think my Mom (who is with me in

>spirit, but can't give up her meat.... even the dropping of red meat

>after her minor heart attack early last year didn't stick....) is at

>least 10-15 years younger than she is, I love the reactions I get

>when I tell people I'm 47. I have old driver's licenses and the only

>difference is that I'm thinner now (in the 25 years I've been

>vegetarian, I've lost about 80 or so pounds though I might have

>gained some muscle since I started kickboxing a bit over a year ago).

>

>Someone who's known me for probably 10 or so years recently wanted to

>fix me up with someone -- I asked her how old he was (I go for

>younger men, but I had a feeling he was a bit TOO young) and she

>said, " Oh, I doubt he's over 32.... " (thinking, the way she said it I

>could tell, that I was afraid he'd be too old). I chuckled and said

>that I really don't mind the age difference, but I doubt he'd want to

>go out with someone 15 years older... She had no idea ;-)

>

>Debbie

>

>

>

>Well if it's any consolation, in that picture of you on your profile

>you still look quite young.  20's-ish.  I have a theory that

>vegetarianism drastically slows the ageing process.  I had my hair

>cut recently by a woman who was one year my senior.  We looked at

>*least* 10 years apart!  And my best friend (we became veggie

>together when we were freshman in high school) looks really young,

>too.  Just a thought...

>

>-- jojo

>

>

>

>To send an email to -

>

>

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Time to cut down on the beer. Most likely it's that rather than the food that is causing you to get a belly.

 

Lesley

 

 

EBbrewpunx [EBbrewpunx]22 July 2002 16:41 Subject: Re: Re: fraggle time..as opposed to hammer time....or space time, ook...sooo unfair..i gained weight when i went veggiei weighed 119 lbs in 1989....add a few pounds to that today..like 40...grrrrrrrand where this belly thing come from? i didn't sign up fer this..granted, i know, as we age, metabolism drops like a stone, but i didn't think i'd feel like i was eating stones...gained 20 lbs last yr...*sobs into paws*fraggle*pats belly*"compugraphd" <compugraphd wrote:>B"H>>Though I have to admit, most people think my Mom (who is with me in >spirit, but can't give up her meat.... even the dropping of red meat >after her minor heart attack early last year didn't stick....) is at >least 10-15 years younger than she is, I love the reactions I get >when I tell people I'm 47. I have old driver's licenses and the only >difference is that I'm thinner now (in the 25 years I've been >vegetarian, I've lost about 80 or so pounds though I might have >gained some muscle since I started kickboxing a bit over a year ago). >>Someone who's known me for probably 10 or so years recently wanted to >fix me up with someone -- I asked her how old he was (I go for >younger men, but I had a feeling he was a bit TOO young) and she >said, "Oh, I doubt he's over 32...." (thinking, the way she said it I >could tell, that I was afraid he'd be too old). I chuckled and said >that I really don't mind the age difference, but I doubt he'd want to >go out with someone 15 years older... She had no idea ;-)>>Debbie>>>>Well if it's any consolation, in that picture of you on your profile >you still look quite young. 20's-ish. I have a theory that >vegetarianism drastically slows the ageing process. I had my hair >cut recently by a woman who was one year my senior. We looked at >*least* 10 years apart! And my best friend (we became veggie >together when we were freshman in high school) looks really young, >too. Just a thought...> >-- jojo>>>>To send an email to - >>

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heathen!

cut down on beer? i recognize those words, but they make no sense in that

sentence...

actually, i use to drink more then, believe it or not!!

fraggle

 

" Lesley Dove " <Lesley wrote:

 

>

>Time to cut down on the beer. Most likely it's that rather than the food

>that is causing you to get a belly.

>

>Lesley

>

>  

>  EBbrewpunx [EBbrewpunx]

>  22 July 2002 16:41

>  

>  Re: Re: fraggle time..as opposed to hammer

>time....or space time, o

>

>

>  ok...sooo unfair..

>  i gained weight when i went veggie

>  i weighed 119 lbs in 1989....

>  add a few pounds to that today..like 40...grrrrrrr

>  and where this belly thing come from? i didn't sign up fer this..

>  granted, i know, as we age, metabolism drops  like a stone, but i didn't

>think i'd feel like i was eating stones...

>  gained 20 lbs last yr...

>  *sobs into paws*

>  fraggle

>  *pats belly*

>

>   " compugraphd " <compugraphd wrote:

>

>  >B " H

>  >

>  >Though I have to admit, most people think my Mom (who is with me in

>  >spirit, but can't give up her meat.... even the dropping of red meat

>  >after her minor heart attack early last year didn't stick....) is at

>  >least 10-15 years younger than she is, I love the reactions I get

>  >when I tell people I'm 47. I have old driver's licenses and the only

>  >difference is that I'm thinner now (in the 25 years I've been

>  >vegetarian, I've lost about 80 or so pounds though I might have

>  >gained some muscle since I started kickboxing a bit over a year ago).

>  >

>  >Someone who's known me for probably 10 or so years recently wanted to

>  >fix me up with someone -- I asked her how old he was (I go for

>  >younger men, but I had a feeling he was a bit TOO young) and she

>  >said, " Oh, I doubt he's over 32.... " (thinking, the way she said it I

>  >could tell, that I was afraid he'd be too old). I chuckled and said

>  >that I really don't mind the age difference, but I doubt he'd want to

>  >go out with someone 15 years older... She had no idea ;-)

>  >

>  >Debbie

>  >

>  >

>  >

>  >Well if it's any consolation, in that picture of you on your profile

>  >you still look quite young.  20's-ish.  I have a theory that

>  >vegetarianism drastically slows the ageing process.  I had my hair

>  >cut recently by a woman who was one year my senior.  We looked at

>  >*least* 10 years apart!  And my best friend (we became veggie

>  >together when we were freshman in high school) looks really young,

>  >too.  Just a thought...

>  >

>  >-- jojo

>  >

>  >

>  >

>  >To send an email to -

>  >

>  >

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Well they do call it a beer belly when men get a belly as they get older, so I thought it was the beer, and I know you like beer.

Beer is very high in calories.

I'm overweight although I don't drink, just eat too much..

 

Lesley

 

 

EBbrewpunx [EBbrewpunx]22 July 2002 17:08 Subject: RE: Re: fraggle time..as opposed to hammer time....or space time, oheathen!:)cut down on beer? i recognize those words, but they make no sense in that sentence...:)actually, i use to drink more then, believe it or not!! fraggle"Lesley Dove" <Lesley wrote:>>Time to cut down on the beer. Most likely it's that rather than the food>that is causing you to get a belly.>>Lesley>> > EBbrewpunx [EBbrewpunx]> 22 July 2002 16:41> > Re: Re: fraggle time..as opposed to hammer>time....or space time, o>>> ok...sooo unfair..> i gained weight when i went veggie> i weighed 119 lbs in 1989....> add a few pounds to that today..like 40...grrrrrrr> and where this belly thing come from? i didn't sign up fer this..> granted, i know, as we age, metabolism drops like a stone, but i didn't>think i'd feel like i was eating stones...> gained 20 lbs last yr...> *sobs into paws*> fraggle> *pats belly*>> "compugraphd" <compugraphd wrote:>> >B"H> >> >Though I have to admit, most people think my Mom (who is with me in> >spirit, but can't give up her meat.... even the dropping of red meat> >after her minor heart attack early last year didn't stick....) is at> >least 10-15 years younger than she is, I love the reactions I get> >when I tell people I'm 47. I have old driver's licenses and the only> >difference is that I'm thinner now (in the 25 years I've been> >vegetarian, I've lost about 80 or so pounds though I might have> >gained some muscle since I started kickboxing a bit over a year ago).> >> >Someone who's known me for probably 10 or so years recently wanted to> >fix me up with someone -- I asked her how old he was (I go for> >younger men, but I had a feeling he was a bit TOO young) and she> >said, "Oh, I doubt he's over 32...." (thinking, the way she said it I> >could tell, that I was afraid he'd be too old). I chuckled and said> >that I really don't mind the age difference, but I doubt he'd want to> >go out with someone 15 years older... She had no idea ;-)> >> >Debbie> >> >> >> >Well if it's any consolation, in that picture of you on your profile> >you still look quite young. 20's-ish. I have a theory that> >vegetarianism drastically slows the ageing process. I had my hair> >cut recently by a woman who was one year my senior. We looked at> >*least* 10 years apart! And my best friend (we became veggie> >together when we were freshman in high school) looks really young,> >too. Just a thought...> >> >-- jojo> >> >> >> >To send an email to - > >> >

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its more from inactivity then the beer..its sittin around in yer underwear

watching sports all day chuggin beer, as opposed to just the beer itself...

 

" Lesley Dove " <Lesley wrote:

 

>Well they do call it a beer belly when men get a belly as they get older, so

>I thought it was the beer, and I know you like beer.

>Beer is very high in calories.

>I'm overweight although I don't drink, just eat too much..

>

>Lesley

>

>  

>  EBbrewpunx [EBbrewpunx]

>  22 July 2002 17:08

>  

>  RE: Re: fraggle time..as opposed to hammer

>time....or space time, o

>

>

>

>  heathen!

>  

>  cut down on beer? i recognize those words, but they make no sense in that

>sentence...

>  

>  actually, i use to drink more then, believe it or not!!

>  fraggle

>

>   " Lesley Dove " <Lesley wrote:

>

>  >

>  >Time to cut down on the beer. Most likely it's that rather than the food

>  >that is causing you to get a belly.

>  >

>  >Lesley

>  >

>  >  

>  >  EBbrewpunx [EBbrewpunx]

>  >  22 July 2002 16:41

>  >  

>  >  Re: Re: fraggle time..as opposed to hammer

>  >time....or space time, o

>  >

>  >

>  >  ok...sooo unfair..

>  >  i gained weight when i went veggie

>  >  i weighed 119 lbs in 1989....

>  >  add a few pounds to that today..like 40...grrrrrrr

>  >  and where this belly thing come from? i didn't sign up fer this..

>  >  granted, i know, as we age, metabolism drops  like a stone, but i

>didn't

>  >think i'd feel like i was eating stones...

>  >  gained 20 lbs last yr...

>  >  *sobs into paws*

>  >  fraggle

>  >  *pats belly*

>  >

>  >   " compugraphd " <compugraphd wrote:

>  >

>  >  >B " H

>  >  >

>  >  >Though I have to admit, most people think my Mom (who is with me in

>  >  >spirit, but can't give up her meat.... even the dropping of red meat

>  >  >after her minor heart attack early last year didn't stick....) is at

>  >  >least 10-15 years younger than she is, I love the reactions I get

>  >  >when I tell people I'm 47. I have old driver's licenses and the only

>  >  >difference is that I'm thinner now (in the 25 years I've been

>  >  >vegetarian, I've lost about 80 or so pounds though I might have

>  >  >gained some muscle since I started kickboxing a bit over a year ago).

>  >  >

>  >  >Someone who's known me for probably 10 or so years recently wanted to

>  >  >fix me up with someone -- I asked her how old he was (I go for

>  >  >younger men, but I had a feeling he was a bit TOO young) and she

>  >  >said, " Oh, I doubt he's over 32.... " (thinking, the way she said it I

>  >  >could tell, that I was afraid he'd be too old). I chuckled and said

>  >  >that I really don't mind the age difference, but I doubt he'd want to

>  >  >go out with someone 15 years older... She had no idea ;-)

>  >  >

>  >  >Debbie

>  >  >

>  >  >

>  >  >

>  >  >Well if it's any consolation, in that picture of you on your profile

>  >  >you still look quite young.  20's-ish.  I have a theory that

>  >  >vegetarianism drastically slows the ageing process.  I had my hair

>  >  >cut recently by a woman who was one year my senior.  We looked at

>  >  >*least* 10 years apart!  And my best friend (we became veggie

>  >  >together when we were freshman in high school) looks really young,

>  >  >too.  Just a thought...

>  >  >

>  >  >-- jojo

>  >  >

>  >  >

>  >  >

>  >  >To send an email to -

>  >  >

>  >  >

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Its okay you can eat a lot - just eat lots of the right things! :-)

 

Janey

x

 

I'm overweight although I don't drink, just eat too much..

 

 

Lesley

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Hi Fraggle

 

> its more from inactivity then the beer..its sittin around in yer underwear

watching sports all day chuggin beer

 

So, if you were fully clothed, it wouldn't be a problem? :-)

 

BB

Peter

 

 

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LOL

 

> cut down on beer? i recognize those words, but they make no sense in that

sentence...

 

 

 

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B " H

 

Actually, though I've lost a lot of weight in the 25 years I've been

vegetarian (I was really fat back then) I still need to lose about 25-

30 more pounds (I actually was down there about 5 or so years ago for

about a year or so when I gave up sugar and fruit but gained about 40

or so pounds back when I put the fruit back in). My

nutritionist/chiropractor has some stuff to help me lose more weight,

but just after we started with it, I started having some problems

with me thumbs that he needed to work on, then I sprained my ankle...

anyway, at some point, I hope to get back to that.

 

To my point.... one of the things he told me (mind you, he's not a

vegan nutritionist, but he knows that I'll never go to eating meat or

even dairy and eggs, so he works with that) is that there is a

specific protein that vegans can only get from nuts (and nut

butters) -- I started adding them, but I'm still waiting for some

specifics on amounts....

 

Anyway............ just my two cents....

 

Debbie

 

Well they do call it a beer belly when men get a belly as they get

older, so I thought it was the beer, and I know you like beer.

Beer is very high in calories.

I'm overweight although I don't drink, just eat too much..

 

Lesley

 

 

EBbrewpunx [EBbrewpunx]

22 July 2002 17:08

 

RE: Re: fraggle time..as opposed to hammer

time....or space time, o

 

 

 

heathen!

cut down on beer? i recognize those words, but they make no sense in

that sentence...

actually, i use to drink more then, believe it or not!!

fraggle

 

" Lesley Dove " <Lesley wrote:

 

>

>Time to cut down on the beer. Most likely it's that rather than the

food

>that is causing you to get a belly.

[Guest guest]

Hi Fraggle,

forget about that crap of "as we age, metabolism drops". It all depends on what you eat. At age 55 and 5"6", I weigh a steady 139 lbs. I eat only fruits and vegies ... no fat, no salt, no sugar and no grains. And I eat a huge volumn of food. My salad comes in a punch bowl and my steamed veggies come in a two quart bowl. And I eat nothing but fruits in the mean time.

I found that things like corn or potatoes are good for weight gain. So are bananas, which I eat only in the Winter, since they are to heavy for this hot weather. Now is the season for watermelons and berries. I also eat lots of grapes and cherries. Remember ... fat makes you fat. And that includes oils which are added to salads and other foods.

I get a belly too after eating my monster salad, but it's gone a couple of hours later ...

In health .... Werner.

 

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ok...sooo unfair..i gained weight when i went veggiei weighed 119 lbs in 1989....add a few pounds to that today..like 40...grrrrrrrand where this belly thing come from? i didn't sign up fer this..granted, i know, as we age, metabolism drops like a stone, but i didn't think i'd feel like i was eating stones...gained 20 lbs last yr...*sobs into paws*fraggle*pats belly*

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

salad without oil...

i have to admire you..i can't do it....

olive oil is unfortunately a lynch pin of my diet..and beer...

ahem

hey..i never said i did this fer me health!!!!

fraggle

 

" Werner " <mejda6 wrote:

 

>Hi Fraggle,

>

>forget about that crap of " as we age, metabolism drops " .  It all depends on

>what you eat.  At age 55 and 5 " 6 " , I weigh a steady 139 lbs.  I eat only

>fruits and vegies ... no fat, no salt, no sugar and no grains.  And I eat a

>huge volumn of food.  My salad comes in a punch bowl and my steamed veggies

>come in a two quart bowl.  And I eat nothing but fruits in the mean time.

>

>I found that things like corn or potatoes are good for weight gain.  So are

>bananas, which I eat only in the Winter, since they are to heavy for this

>hot weather.  Now is the season for watermelons and berries.  I also eat

>lots of grapes and cherries.  Remember ... fat makes you fat.  And that

>includes oils which are added to salads and other foods.

>

>I get a belly too after eating my monster salad, but it's gone a couple of

>hours later ...

>

>In health .... Werner.

>

>

>

>----

>

>

>

>

>

>ok...sooo unfair..

>

>i gained weight when i went veggie

>

>i weighed 119 lbs in 1989....

>

>add a few pounds to that today..like 40...grrrrrrr

>

>and where this belly thing come from? i didn't sign up fer this..

>

>granted, i know, as we age, metabolism drops  like a stone, but i didn't

>think i'd feel like i was eating stones...

>

>gained 20 lbs last yr...

>

>*sobs into paws*

>

>fraggle

>

>*pats belly*

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I know ... I know ... you're doing it for the animals. And beer is vegan, too. I think wine is too, but then I wouldn't know. I don't drink anything ... not even water. If I'm thirsty, I'll eat a half of a watermelon. That takes care of my problem, but I also spends lots of time going to the bathroom ... oops ... must be my bed time ... I'm rambling on ...

In health ... Werner.

 

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salad without oil...i have to admire you..i can't do it....olive oil is unfortunately a lynch pin of my diet..and beer...ahemhey..i never said i did this fer me health!!!!fraggle

[Guest guest]

we are just different folks dear werner..that is all

as long as we are happy(more er less) and hit the same goal..the journey there

doesn't matter as much, does it..

cheers

fraggle

 

 

" Werner " <mejda6 wrote:

 

>I know ... I know ... you're doing it for the animals.  And beer is vegan,

>too.  I think wine is too, but then I wouldn't know.  I don't drink anything

>... not even water.   If I'm thirsty, I'll eat a half of a watermelon.  That

>takes care of my problem, but I also spends lots of time going to the

>bathroom ... oops ... must be my bed time ... I'm rambling on ...

>

>In health ... Werner.

>

>

>

>----

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>salad without oil...

>

>i have to admire you..i can't do it....

>

>olive oil is unfortunately a lynch pin of my diet..and beer...

>

>ahem

>

>hey..i never said i did this fer me health!!!!

>

>fraggle

>

[Guest guest]

Fraggle

 

I have to agree with you. Personally I think that oil is a bit of a

necessity in small amounts. I personally do no feel that just vegetables

and fruit, with no seeds or nuts, is a good long-term diet. I do agree with

Werner that we could cut down on the oil though.

 

Glad I don't drink beer - goodness knows what size I'd be.

 

Jo

> salad without oil...

> i have to admire you..i can't do it....

> olive oil is unfortunately a lynch pin of my diet..and beer...

> ahem

> hey..i never said i did this fer me health!!!!

 

 

 

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Hi Fraggle,

you're right ... the journey doesn't matter ... since we each have our own unique journey. Yes, I am sure that we are all striving to be happy. Paradise on Earth.

In Health ... Werner.

 

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we are just different folks dear werner..that is allas long as we are happy(more er less) and hit the same goal..the journey there doesn't matter as much, does it..:)cheersfraggleTo send an email to -

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I don't think beer and wine are vegan , are they?

i have never made beer but have made wine many times-

and yeast is used for fermentation. Yeast are little

critters that turn sugar into alcohol. i guess I

consider myself a vegan but am not fanatical about it.

 

 

--- Werner <mejda6 wrote:

> I know ... I know ... you're doing it for the

> animals. And beer is vegan,

> too. I think wine is too, but then I wouldn't know.

> I don't drink anything

> ... not even water. If I'm thirsty, I'll eat a

> half of a watermelon. That

> takes care of my problem, but I also spends lots of

> time going to the

> bathroom ... oops ... must be my bed time ... I'm

> rambling on ...

> In health ... Werner.

>

> ----

>

>

>

>

> salad without oil...

> i have to admire you..i can't do it....

> olive oil is unfortunately a lynch pin of my

> diet..and beer...

> ahem

> hey..i never said i did this fer me health!!!!

> fraggle

 

 

 

 

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Yeast is a fungus, not like an animal, but some wines and beers use fish derivatives or blood, or other animal products in the finings to remove cloudy bits, so they are not all vegan.

 

Lesley

 

 

Gary Dean [country_man52]24 July 2002 01:01 Subject: Re: Re: fraggle time..as opposed to hammer time....or space time, oI don't think beer and wine are vegan , are they?i have never made beer but have made wine many times-and yeast is used for fermentation. Yeast are littlecritters that turn sugar into alcohol. i guess Iconsider myself a vegan but am not fanatical about it.--- Werner <mejda6 wrote:> I know ... I know ... you're doing it for the> animals. And beer is vegan,> too. I think wine is too, but then I wouldn't know.> I don't drink anything> ... not even water. If I'm thirsty, I'll eat a> half of a watermelon. That> takes care of my problem, but I also spends lots of> time going to the> bathroom ... oops ... must be my bed time ... I'm> rambling on ...> In health ... Werner.> > ----> > > > > salad without oil...> i have to admire you..i can't do it....> olive oil is unfortunately a lynch pin of my> diet..and beer...> ahem> hey..i never said i did this fer me health!!!!> fraggle Health - Feel better, live betterhttp://health.To send an email to -