Guest guest Posted July 21, 2002 Report Share Posted July 21, 2002 hello to everyone... i am new to this site but not so new to veganism. i've been almost completely vegan for nearly 5 years. only recently have i experienced any difficulties. not so long ago i joined a gym and began working out everyday. whether related or not i've noticed a definite dip in energy. so my question... are there any other athletes/fitness types that could offer me some help or direct me towards websites, books, or other sources for help?? all help is appreciated!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2002 Report Share Posted July 21, 2002 Hello Ian, I have here in front of me a booklet by Douglas N. Graham, D.C. It is called "Nutrition and Athletic Performance." I got it directly from his website ... www.doctorgraham.cc I live by this booklet and I think you should try and get it too. For the biggest part, he has you eating more bananas for long lasting energy. I have cut my banana consumption, because of the hot weather and eat more melons and berries now. But come winter, I'll be eating about 6 bananas or more a day. At age 55, I can still run or race walk 10 miles on a good day and go out for more later in the day. No slouch here ... I am very active for my age. In health ... Werner. ---- Sunday, July 21, 2002 1:53:06 PM nutritional concerns for athletes... hello to everyone... i am new to this site but not so new to veganism. i've been almost completely vegan for nearly 5 years. only recently have i experienced any difficulties. not so long ago i joined a gym and began working out everyday. whether related or not i've noticed a definite dip in energy. so my question... are there any other athletes/fitness types that could offer me some help or direct me towards websites, books, or other sources for help?? all help is appreciated!!!To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2002 Report Share Posted July 22, 2002 Hi Here is an article which may be of interest:- On Sun, Jul 21, 2002 at 03:50:48PM -0000, ian_schmian wrote: > hello to everyone... i am new to this site but not so new to > veganism. i've been almost completely vegan for nearly 5 years. > only recently have i experienced any difficulties. not so long ago i > joined a gym and began working out everyday. whether related or not > i've noticed a definite dip in energy. so my question... are there > any other athletes/fitness types that could offer me some help or > direct me towards websites, books, or other sources for help?? > The Food of Champions ------------------------- by Dr David Ryde From http://www.viva.org.uk/guides/foodofchampions.htm Vegetarian and vegan diets for sports. David Ryde is a GP and a vegan who has been a medical adviser to several national sports teams, including a first division football club. He served on the Medical Sub Committee of the British Olympic Association and for 15 years, was chairperson of the International Table Tennis Medical Committee and was a senior medical officer of a boxing club. A Fellow of the Royal College of General Practice, he continues to lecture, write articles on nutrition and sports medicine and is still active in many sports. Whether you're into Wimbledon or the World Cup, biking up mountains or running a marathon, as an athlete you'll be watching what you eat. For competitive sports especially, you need to be at the peak of physical and mental fitness to maintain stamina, sharpness and keep that winning edge. Your diet is all important. Food provides our fuel for energy and a veggie diet is packed full of all the essentials athletes need for fitness and vitality. It contains everything you need. Some of nature's most powerful competitors, racehorses, depend solely on plant foods for their breathtaking speed and agility. Other powerful plant-eating animals include the elephant, gorilla, bull, hippopotamus and rhinoceros. But surely a vegetarian diet is for wimps not warriors? What about protein? How are you going to swim the channel or score a hat-trick with a bellyful of beans? As a sportsperson what's in it for you? Protein - athletic coaches used to think that a high protein diet was good for sports performance but now it is accepted that athletes simply need the average amounts of protein and other nutrients found in a normal well-balanced diet. Protein is important to build muscle, but the idea that red meat is essential for this is nonsense. In fact, for the ideal sports diet most nutritionists now recommend eating more vegetable protein, such as baked beans, tofu and nuts, while cutting out animal protein such as red meat. Specific protein requirements will depend on the individual and the sport and recent studies suggest that some sports, such as wrestling or weight-lifting, may need a little extra. You can get this from a protein supplement - most of these are from vegetable sources but check the label - some may contain fish or battery egg ingredients. Carbohydrates - are high in foods such as bread, pasta, rice, potatoes and fruit, which are energy-rich. Athletes of course need more energy which is a great excuse to stuff yourself with lots of your favourite food! Whether you need a concentrated burst of energy for a sprint or a store to last a marathon, a vegetarian diet is naturally very high in carbohydrates, while almost all meat contains none. Many American football teams, such as the San Francisco 49ers, 'load-up' on carbohydrates before a game, cutting out all foods of animal origin except skimmed milk, non-fat yoghurt and egg white (all low fat foods). Studies have shown that athletes on a high carbohydrate diet have three times the endurance of athletes on a diet high in fat, the other main energy fuel. Fats, vitamins and minerals - we all need a little fat in our diet to supply around 10-15% of our energy, but too much makes you, well... fat! Hardly good news for the serious athlete. We don't need saturated fats though which are found mostly in animal products. These can increase cholesterol levels in the blood and lead to heart disease. A vegetarian diet however, contains all the unsaturated fat, vitamins and minerals needed for good health. These include calcium, important for the working of muscles, and iron, essential for healthy red blood cells which transport oxygen to all parts of the body. The small increased need for vitamins for athletes is met by those present in the extra starchy foods taken (carbohydrates). Nutrients in some foods (per 100g) Food Protein Carbohydrates Fat Fibre ---------------- Ham 18.4 0 5.1 0 Bacon (rasher, fried) 24.9 0 40.6 0 Lentils 23.8 53.2 1.0 11.7 Baked potato 2.1 20.3 0.1 2.0 Bran, oat 16.3 59.0 8.0 18.5 Brown rice 6.7 81.3 2.8 3.8 For more detailed information on nutrition, refer to the Viva! Guide 1, Nutrition in a Nutshell. What Viva! Founder Supporters say Roger Hughes is a skier and has been vegetarian for over three years. He is the Welsh National Ski Champion and is ranked third in the UK. " Being vegetarian has helped make me into a better all round athlete. With the extra energy a vegetarian diet provides, I'm also enjoying a healthier and fuller lifestyle. As well as working, I carry out a rigorous training regime and participate in other sports and activities. Becoming a vegetarian was the best move I ever made for my skiing and quality of life. " Sally Eastall is a marathon runner and has been a vegan for the last nine years. She has represented Great Britain in the Olympics, Commonwealth Games, World and European Championships and is ranked seventh in the UK. " Since becoming vegan my running has improved considerably. Vegan food is ideal - high carbohydrate, low fat and plenty of vitamins and iron. I'm proud that I run without exploiting animals in any way. " Robert Millar is a world-class professional cyclist with Team TVM Insurances, Holland and a vegetarian. He has finished fourth in the Tour de France and second in the Tours of Spain, Italy and Switzerland winning the King of the Mountains jersey. In 1989 he won the Kelloggs Tour of Britain. " A vegetarian diet is a winning diet, for health, for sport, for life. It gives me maximum energy and vitality - in fact everything I need to keep me at the peak of physical fitness and compete with the best. " The Proof of the Pudding... If you needed further living proof of the benefits of a veggie diet for sport, ask these people... Martina Navratilova - Legendary tennis champion with 166 titles, and nine times Wimbledon winner - vegetarian. Sorya Bonali - World champion ice skater - vegan. Sally Hibberd - British women's mountain bike champion - vegetarian. Judy Leden - British, European and World women's hang-gliding champion - vegetarian. Ed Moses - Olympic Gold medallist twice at 400m hurdles - vegetarian. Dave Scott - 6 times winner of the Ironman Triathlon of America - vegetarian (several vegans finish in the first 12 of this competition each year). Top Tips for Athletes You need food for energy. Don't skip meals, eat more meals in smaller amounts during the day. Don't try a new diet on competition day - try it out first. Eat about three to four hours before a competition and make it a light carbohydrate meal or... Eat a small sandwich one hour before an endurance competition. Fluid is important. Drink plenty of water (or electrolyte drinks) before and during training by breaking up the training period or by sipping small amounts of liquid. Salt, often taken as tablets or sprinkled liberally over food, is unnecessary. Many athletes suffer from pre-game nerves. Don't eat any foods beforehand that are likely to make you feel uncomfortable, such as fatty, high-fibre or gassy foods. FROM http://www.viva.org.uk/guides/foodofchampions.htm Persian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2002 Report Share Posted July 22, 2002 I met Dr Doug when he attended the same rawfood three day weekend as me back in May. He is incredibly fit - he went running, did press-ups from archways or whatever else he could find at that event, and even did various acrobatics carrying people which looked incredibly strenuous as the rest of us were sat watching eating our lunch! He eats a 100% rawfood diet - mainly fruit. I saw him one morning have a plate full of bananas for his breakfast and he said he has been known to eat just a mono dinner of 12 bananas. This guy is incredible! :-) He's in his forties and has eaten a totally rawfood diet for over 20 years. He is slim, toned and looks so well! If you have any questions you can e-mail Dr Doug via his website. He always seems to reply! Janey x - Werner Sunday, July 21, 2002 11:58 PM Re: nutritional concerns for athletes... Hello Ian, I have here in front of me a booklet by Douglas N. Graham, D.C. It is called "Nutrition and Athletic Performance." I got it directly from his website ... www.doctorgraham.cc I live by this booklet and I think you should try and get it too. For the biggest part, he has you eating more bananas for long lasting energy. I have cut my banana consumption, because of the hot weather and eat more melons and berries now. But come winter, I'll be eating about 6 bananas or more a day. At age 55, I can still run or race walk 10 miles on a good day and go out for more later in the day. No slouch here ... I am very active for my age. In health ... Werner. ---- Sunday, July 21, 2002 1:53:06 PM nutritional concerns for athletes... hello to everyone... i am new to this site but not so new to veganism. i've been almost completely vegan for nearly 5 years. only recently have i experienced any difficulties. not so long ago i joined a gym and began working out everyday. whether related or not i've noticed a definite dip in energy. so my question... are there any other athletes/fitness types that could offer me some help or direct me towards websites, books, or other sources for help?? all help is appreciated!!!To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2002 Report Share Posted July 22, 2002 B " H I hope I don't sound like a commercial (especially since, besides being a consumer I'm also a distributer -- though a not too terribly successful distributer ;-), but a bit more than a year ago (last May), I started taking kickboxing. Around the same time, I starting picking up on my use of Sunrider products. I started having a shake of their NuPlus every day and drinking their Fortune Delight regularly. I noticed on days that I did have the opportunity to make a shake that I have less energy and more trouble making it through my workout. Anyway, if anyone is interested, I wrote a cookbook using the products and on the page on my web site where I hawk the cookbook, I have a link to Sunrider (I'm cryptic there because of the rules they have -- which are majorly ridiculous, but that's another matter) there (and I'd rather you go through my page because it tells you how I can get credit if you DO order anything....) ;-) (As I said, I hope I don't sound like a commercial....) Debbie On Sun, Jul 21, 2002 at 03:50:48PM -0000, ian_schmian wrote: > hello to everyone... i am new to this site but not so new to > veganism. i've been almost completely vegan for nearly 5 years. > only recently have i experienced any difficulties. not so long ago i joined a gym and began working out everyday. whether related or not i've noticed a definite dip in energy. so my question... are there any other athletes/fitness types that could offer me some help or direct me towards websites, books, or other sources for help?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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