Guest guest Posted July 23, 2002 Report Share Posted July 23, 2002 B " H Ultimately, that IS to make you feel better -- because repulsion is a bad feeling, a feeling YOU want to avoid. You don't want to feel repulsed, so you don't eat animals... or you don't want to feel responsible for a cow's death, so you don't eat meat.... that's ultimately to make you feel better.... Debbie I became vegan because I was repulsed by eating animal products, not to make myself feel better. Janey x - " Peter " <Snowbow Tuesday, July 23, 2002 5:18 PM Re: Wilfred Crone's death was Re: other old vegetarians ... > Hi Janey / Michael > > > That could also be deemed as selfish, no? > > Isn't everything we do selfish? For instance - how many of us would be vegan if it didn't make us feel better about ourselves? I know we do it because it helps animals, the environment, etc. etc. but ultimately it is because it makes us feel better about ourselves! > > OK - maybe I'm cynical, but that's the way I see things! > > BB > Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2002 Report Share Posted July 23, 2002 >Ultimately, that IS to make you feel better -- because repulsion is a >bad feeling, a feeling YOU want to avoid. But why do you feel repulsion at such things? Because you believe them to be wrong. Isn't that what it is ultimately about? Not that I'm denying the inherent selfishness, I just don't consider that to be ultimately relevant. Does veganism even make you feel better? I don't feel better for being vegan, but I would feel bad for doing something I consider wrong. My being vegan makes me feel no better than my not going out and murdering someone does. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2002 Report Share Posted July 23, 2002 Isn't Ian supposed to be the pedant around here? , Mavreela <nec.lists@m...> wrote: > > >Ultimately, that IS to make you feel better -- because repulsion is a > >bad feeling, a feeling YOU want to avoid. > > But why do you feel repulsion at such things? Because you believe them to > be wrong. Isn't that what it is ultimately about? > > Not that I'm denying the inherent selfishness, I just don't consider that > to be ultimately relevant. > > Does veganism even make you feel better? I don't feel better for being > vegan, but I would feel bad for doing something I consider wrong. My being > vegan makes me feel no better than my not going out and murdering someone does. > > Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2002 Report Share Posted July 24, 2002 Don't you feel better for living a little more lightly on this earth? --- quercusrobur2002 <grahamburnett wrote: > Isn't Ian supposed to be the pedant around here? > > > > , Mavreela <nec.lists@m...> > wrote: > > > > >Ultimately, that IS to make you feel better -- > because repulsion > is a > > >bad feeling, a feeling YOU want to avoid. > > > > But why do you feel repulsion at such things? > Because you believe > them to > > be wrong. Isn't that what it is ultimately about? > > > > Not that I'm denying the inherent selfishness, I > just don't > consider that > > to be ultimately relevant. > > > > Does veganism even make you feel better? I don't > feel better for > being > > vegan, but I would feel bad for doing something I > consider wrong. > My being > > vegan makes me feel no better than my not going > out and murdering > someone does. > > > > Michael > > Health - Feel better, live better http://health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2002 Report Share Posted July 24, 2002 Eh? , Gary Dean <country_man52> wrote: > Don't you feel better for living a little more lightly > on this earth? > > --- quercusrobur2002 <grahamburnett@b...> > wrote: > > Isn't Ian supposed to be the pedant around here? > > > > > > > > , Mavreela <nec.lists@m...> > > wrote: > > > > > > >Ultimately, that IS to make you feel better -- > > because repulsion > > is a > > > >bad feeling, a feeling YOU want to avoid. > > > > > > But why do you feel repulsion at such things? > > Because you believe > > them to > > > be wrong. Isn't that what it is ultimately about? > > > > > > Not that I'm denying the inherent selfishness, I > > just don't > > consider that > > > to be ultimately relevant. > > > > > > Does veganism even make you feel better? I don't > > feel better for > > being > > > vegan, but I would feel bad for doing something I > > consider wrong. > > My being > > > vegan makes me feel no better than my not going > > out and murdering > > someone does. > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > Health - Feel better, live better > http://health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2002 Report Share Posted July 24, 2002 --- quercusrobur2002 <grahamburnett wrote: > Eh? > > , Gary Dean > <country_man52> wrote: > > Don't you feel better for living a little more > lightly > > on this earth? > > > > --- quercusrobur2002 <grahamburnett@b...> > > wrote: > > > Isn't Ian supposed to be the pedant around here? > > > > > > > > > sorry- I am new here > > > , Mavreela > <nec.lists@m...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >Ultimately, that IS to make you feel better > -- > > > because repulsion > > > is a > > > > >bad feeling, a feeling YOU want to avoid. > > > > > > > > But why do you feel repulsion at such things? > > > Because you believe > > > them to > > > > be wrong. Isn't that what it is ultimately > about? > > > > > > > > Not that I'm denying the inherent selfishness, > I > > > just don't > > > consider that > > > > to be ultimately relevant. > > > > > > > > Does veganism even make you feel better? I > don't > > > feel better for > > > being > > > > vegan, but I would feel bad for doing > something I > > > consider wrong. > > > My being > > > > vegan makes me feel no better than my not > going > > > out and murdering > > > someone does. > > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Health - Feel better, live better > > http://health. > > Health - Feel better, live better http://health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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