Guest guest Posted July 24, 2002 Report Share Posted July 24, 2002 beer brewed by standard german law is not only vegan but clean. germans are very anal about their " reinheitsgebot " which has been used for as long as beer exists there (and hey... u know germany and it's beer). i can't say the same for american booze though... i haven't checked the specifics but a lot of beers here *supposedly* aren't really vegan. for wine... that's another tough one. as i said, i don't know any brands in particular but *i have heard* that many aren't vegan. i guess nobody has really done the research yet... or maybe companies try to keep it from us. so... think what you wanna... and drink if you wanna. but in moderation... vegan or not... alcohol is still not good in excess. -Sara btw... yeast are funghi. On Tuesday, July 23, 2002, at 08:00 PM, Gary Dean wrote: > I don't think beer and wine are vegan , are they? > i have never made beer but have made wine many times- > and yeast is used for fermentation. Yeast are little > critters that turn sugar into alcohol. i guess I > consider myself a vegan but am not fanatical about it. > > > --- Werner <mejda6 wrote: >> I know ... I know ... you're doing it for the >> animals. And beer is vegan, >> too. I think wine is too, but then I wouldn't know. >> I don't drink anything >> ... not even water. If I'm thirsty, I'll eat a >> half of a watermelon. That >> takes care of my problem, but I also spends lots of >> time going to the >> bathroom ... oops ... must be my bed time ... I'm >> rambling on ... >> In health ... Werner. >> >> ---- >> >> >> >> >> salad without oil... >> i have to admire you..i can't do it.... >> olive oil is unfortunately a lynch pin of my >> diet..and beer... >> ahem >> hey..i never said i did this fer me health!!!! >> fraggle > > > > > Health - Feel better, live better > http://health. > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2002 Report Share Posted July 24, 2002 i am really some day get a stock reply fer this topic..really...i swear.. and no, i'm not complainin to you sara..this just happens to come up every month or so one..the reinheitsgebot isn't as grand as it once was..the german purity law was shunted aside a number of years ago, thanx to budweiser and the EU..so, you can't use " its german, its vegan " excuse anymore ok..Most beers are fine, except those processed with isinglass, which is fish bladder...this is mostly an english thing..it is used in traditional cask conditioned beers.. in maerica, very few brewers use isinglas, only a few microbreweries that try fer the traditional english style ales.. most american breweries filter their beers with a. DE filters(diatamaceous earth..)(sic) b force filtered thru plastic even budweiser..ya know how it sez " beechwood " aged? its marketing..the beechwood is used to help fine the proteins and yeasts out..it stays on the beechwood strips fer like a day, and they add no flavor, thats why they use beechwood, its pretty neutral... the best thing to do, ASK..breweries fall all over themselves to talk about their beer..they would be more then happy to discuss wot malts, yeast, wot the pH of the water is..and steerin it toward finings is simple enough wine...wine is different depending where you are..once again, gelatin and isinglass is more used in europe...many american wineries use bentonite..its a clay... spirits are fine, unless you get one of those weird snake drinks from asia er something.... that should about cover it..fer the next few days cheers fraggle Sara Schwarz <sara_ts wrote: >beer brewed by standard german law is not only vegan but clean. germans >are very anal about their " reinheitsgebot " which has been used for as >long as beer exists there (and hey... u know germany and it's beer). i >can't say the same for american booze though... i haven't checked the >specifics but a lot of beers here *supposedly* aren't really vegan. >for wine... that's another tough one. as i said, i don't know any brands >in particular but *i have heard* that many aren't vegan. i guess nobody >has really done the research yet... or maybe companies try to keep it >from us. >so... think what you wanna... and drink if you wanna. but in >moderation... vegan or not... alcohol is still not good in excess. >-Sara >btw... yeast are funghi. > >On Tuesday, July 23, 2002, at 08:00 PM, Gary Dean wrote: > >> I don't think beer and wine are vegan , are they? >> i have never made beer but have made wine many times- >> and yeast is used for fermentation. Yeast are little >> critters that turn sugar into alcohol. i guess I >> consider myself a vegan but am not fanatical about it. >> >> >> --- Werner <mejda6 wrote: >>> I know ... I know ... you're doing it for the >>> animals. And beer is vegan, >>> too. I think wine is too, but then I wouldn't know. >>> I don't drink anything >>> ... not even water. If I'm thirsty, I'll eat a >>> half of a watermelon. That >>> takes care of my problem, but I also spends lots of >>> time going to the >>> bathroom ... oops ... must be my bed time ... I'm >>> rambling on ... >>> In health ... Werner. >>> >>> ---- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> salad without oil... >>> i have to admire you..i can't do it.... >>> olive oil is unfortunately a lynch pin of my >>> diet..and beer... >>> ahem >>> hey..i never said i did this fer me health!!!! >>> fraggle >> >> >> >> >> Health - Feel better, live better >> http://health. >> >> >> To send an email to - >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2002 Report Share Posted July 24, 2002 You could do a stock reply Fraggle. Is there an 'information' part on this list that you could put it in. It would be really helpful. Jo > i am really some day get a stock reply fer this topic..really...i swear.. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release 10/07/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2002 Report Share Posted July 24, 2002 Sara Schwarz wrote: > > beer brewed by standard german law is not only vegan but clean. germans > are very anal about their " reinheitsgebot " which has been used for as > long as beer exists there (and hey... u know germany and it's beer). Actually, I asked in the Pitfield Brewery (a vegan-friendly microbrewery near where I live), and they said that the Reinheitsgebot didn't rule out finings (fish bladders). -- Ian McDonald http://www.mcdonald.me.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2002 Report Share Posted July 24, 2002 it does.. if a brewery sez they stand by the reinheitsgebot, then, technically, they can only use water, hops, barley and yeast(yeast was only added to the law 100 years ago, cuz before pasteur, they really didn't know much about yeast..), and wheat if its a hefeweizen..no adulterates can be added...that includes isinglass, since even if its not actually in the final product, it is added to the beer... cheers fraggle Ian McDonald <ian wrote: > > >Sara Schwarz wrote: >> >> beer brewed by standard german law is not only vegan but clean. germans >> are very anal about their " reinheitsgebot " which has been used for as >> long as beer exists there (and hey... u know germany and it's beer). > >Actually, I asked in the Pitfield Brewery (a vegan-friendly microbrewery >near where I live), and they said that the Reinheitsgebot didn't rule >out finings (fish bladders). > >-- >Ian McDonald > >http://www.mcdonald.me.uk/ > > >To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2002 Report Share Posted July 25, 2002 Are they the folk who do the bar at the vegan festival?? Top folks! > > Actually, I asked in the Pitfield Brewery (a vegan-friendly microbrewery > near where I live), Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 quercusrobur2002 wrote: > > Are they the folk who do the bar at the vegan festival?? Top folks! > Yes, and by coincidence I'm supping their 1850 London Porter as I write. They're about ten minutes from my place. Ridiculously close. And all their beer is vegan. (Unless they sell it to an indie pub that insists on fining it.) -- Ian McDonald http://www.mcdonald.me.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2002 Report Share Posted July 27, 2002 Ah yes - but which silly country doesn't allow hemp to be grown????????? Jo > > silly english, have to ruin a perfectly good beer by adding fish to it > of course, you are the same blokes who got all uppity at hops a few centuries back as well... > > fraggle > > Ian McDonald <ian wrote: > > > > > > >quercusrobur2002 wrote: > >> > >> Are they the folk who do the bar at the vegan festival?? Top folks! > >> > > > >Yes, and by coincidence I'm supping their 1850 London Porter as I write. > > > >They're about ten minutes from my place. Ridiculously close. And all > >their beer is vegan. (Unless they sell it to an indie pub that insists > >on fining it.) > > > >-- > >Ian McDonald > > > >http://www.mcdonald.me.uk/ > > > > > >To send an email to - > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2002 Report Share Posted July 28, 2002 Touché, Jo. -- jojo --- Heartwork <Heartwork wrote: > Ah yes - but which silly country doesn't allow hemp > to be grown????????? > > > Jo > > > > > > > > silly english, have to ruin a perfectly good beer > by adding fish to it > > of course, you are the same blokes who got all > uppity at hops a few > centuries back as well... > > > > fraggle > > > > Ian McDonald <ian wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >quercusrobur2002 wrote: > > >> > > >> Are they the folk who do the bar at the vegan > festival?? Top folks! > > >> > > > > > >Yes, and by coincidence I'm supping their 1850 > London Porter as I write. > > > > > >They're about ten minutes from my place. > Ridiculously close. And all > > >their beer is vegan. (Unless they sell it to an > indie pub that insists > > >on fining it.) > > > > > >-- > > >Ian McDonald > > > > > >http://www.mcdonald.me.uk/ > > > > > > > > >To send an email to > - > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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