Guest guest Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 hey, we've done worse... Dogs may be more intelligent than people may think -- Mail this story to a friend | Printer friendly version UK: August 1, 2002 LONDON - Dogs are probably much cleverer than most people think, according to a new study. Scientists are convinced that dogs can count and researchers at the University of California Davis say they try to convey different messages through the pitch and pace of their barks. " Animal behaviourists used to think their bark was simply a way of getting attention. Now a new study suggests that individual dogs have specific barks with a range of meanings, " New Scientist magazine said yesterday. Dogs usually use high-pitched single barks when they are separated from their owners and a lower, harsher superbark when strangers approach or the doorbell rings, according to Sophia Yin, an animal behaviourist at the university. Playful woofs are high-pitched and unevenly spaced. Dogs also know when they are being short-changed on treats because they have a basic mathematical ability which enables them to tell when one pile of objects is bigger than another. " But to count, an animal has to recognise that each object in a set corresponds to a single number and that the last number in a sequence represents the total number of objects, " New Scientist added. Robert Young of Brazil's Pontifical Catholic University of Minas Gerais in Belo Horizonte, tested the theory on 11 mongrels using dog treats. The canines were shown treats and then a screen was lowered and the goodies were left as they were or some were added or taken away. If a treat was added or taken away the dogs looked at the treats much longer than they did when the goodies were not disturbed, presumably because they had done their sums and the numbers did not meet their expectations. " Dogs are descended from wolves, which not only have a large neocortex - the brain's centre of reasoning - but live in large social groups, " the magazine said. Young believes the mathematical ability could have been used to work out how many allies and enemies they had in a pack. REUTERS NEWS SERVICE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 Pugs count their babies. I'm sure other dogs do, too, but I've witnessed pugs doing it. They know if one is missing and will look all around the room for it until it is returned -- or you need to show them if a puppy has died so they don't keep looking for it -- jojo (who is currently lurking because she has to pack -- I am moving to NJ on Saturday!!!) EBbrewpunx wrote: hey, we've done worse...Dogs may be more intelligent than people may think-- Mail this story to a friend | Printer friendly version UK: August 1, 2002LONDON - Dogs are probably much cleverer than most people think, according to a new study. Scientists are convinced that dogs can count and researchers at the University of California Davis say they try to convey different messages through the pitch and pace of their barks."Animal behaviourists used to think their bark was simply a way of getting attention. Now a new study suggests that individual dogs have specific barks with a range of meanings," New Scientist magazine said yesterday.Dogs usually use high-pitched single barks when they are separated from their owners and a lower, harsher superbark when strangers approach or the doorbell rings, according to Sophia Yin, an animal behaviourist at the university.Playful woofs are high-pitched and unevenly spaced.Dogs also know when they are being short-changed on treats because they have a basic mathematical ability which enables them to tell when one pile of objects is bigger than another."But to count, an animal has to recognise that each object in a set corresponds to a single number and that the last number in a sequence represents the total number of objects," New Scientist added.Robert Young of Brazil's Pontifical Catholic University of Minas Gerais in Belo Horizonte, tested the theory on 11 mongrels using dog treats.The canines were shown treats and then a screen was lowered and the goodies were left as they were or some were added or taken away.If a treat was added or taken away the dogs looked at the treats much longer than they did when the goodies were not disturbed, presumably because they had done their sums and the numbers did not meet their expectations."Dogs are descended from wolves, which not only have a large neocortex - the brain's centre of reasoning - but live in large social groups," the magazine said.Young believes the mathematical ability could have been used to work out how many allies and enemies they had in a pack. REUTERS NEWS SERVICE To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 and whine and cry and throw a fit if they can't find one... have fun in joisey! which exit again? *giggle* fraggle *probably not as funny as he thinks he is* jojo <tofujojo wrote: > >Pugs count their babies. I'm sure other dogs do, too, but I've witnessed pugs doing it. They know if one is missing and will look all around the room for it until it is returned -- or you need to show them if a puppy has died so they don't keep looking for it >-- jojo (who is currently lurking because she has to pack -- I am moving to NJ on Saturday!!!) > > EBbrewpunx wrote:hey, we've done worse... > >Dogs may be more intelligent than people may think >-\ - > >Mail this story to a friend | Printer friendly version > >UK: August 1, 2002 > > >LONDON - Dogs are probably much cleverer than most people think, according to a new study. > > >Scientists are convinced that dogs can count and researchers at the University of California Davis say they try to convey different messages through the pitch and pace of their barks. > " Animal behaviourists used to think their bark was simply a way of getting attention. Now a new study suggests that individual dogs have specific barks with a range of meanings, " New Scientist magazine said yesterday. > >Dogs usually use high-pitched single barks when they are separated from their owners and a lower, harsher superbark when strangers approach or the doorbell rings, according to Sophia Yin, an animal behaviourist at the university. > >Playful woofs are high-pitched and unevenly spaced. > >Dogs also know when they are being short-changed on treats because they have a basic mathematical ability which enables them to tell when one pile of objects is bigger than another. > > " But to count, an animal has to recognise that each object in a set corresponds to a single number and that the last number in a sequence represents the total number of objects, " New Scientist added. > >Robert Young of Brazil's Pontifical Catholic University of Minas Gerais in Belo Horizonte, tested the theory on 11 mongrels using dog treats. > >The canines were shown treats and then a screen was lowered and the goodies were left as they were or some were added or taken away. > >If a treat was added or taken away the dogs looked at the treats much longer than they did when the goodies were not disturbed, presumably because they had done their sums and the numbers did not meet their expectations. > > " Dogs are descended from wolves, which not only have a large neocortex - the brain's centre of reasoning - but live in large social groups, " the magazine said. > >Young believes the mathematical ability could have been used to work out how many allies and enemies they had in a pack. > > > >REUTERS NEWS SERVICE > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 >>and whine and cry and throw a fit if they can't find one...<< Well, wouldn't you ? Actually they pace around nervously and stress themselves out. Poor mama pugs -- jojo EBbrewpunx wrote: and whine and cry and throw a fit if they can't find one...have fun in joisey!which exit again?*giggle*fraggle*probably not as funny as he thinks he is*jojo <tofujojo wrote:>>Pugs count their babies. I'm sure other dogs do, too, but I've witnessed pugs doing it. They know if one is missing and will look all around the room for it until it is returned -- or you need to show them if a puppy has died so they don't keep looking for it >-- jojo (who is currently lurking because she has to pack -- I am moving to NJ on Saturday!!!)> > EBbrewpunx wrote:hey, we've done worse...>>Dogs may be more intelligent than people may think>--> >Mail this story to a friend | Printer friendly version >>UK: August 1, 2002>>>LONDON - Dogs are probably much cleverer than most people think, according to a new study. >>>Scientists are convinced that dogs can count and researchers at the University of California Davis say they try to convey different messages through the pitch and pace of their barks.>"Animal behaviourists used to think their bark was simply a way of getting attention. Now a new study suggests that individual dogs have specific barks with a range of meanings," New Scientist magazine said yesterday.>>Dogs usually use high-pitched single barks when they are separated from their owners and a lower, harsher superbark when strangers approach or the doorbell rings, according to Sophia Yin, an animal behaviourist at the university.>>Playful woofs are high-pitched and unevenly spaced.>>Dogs also know when they are being short-changed on treats because they have a basic mathematical ability which enables them to tell when one pile of objects is bigger than another.>>"But to count, an animal has to recognise that each object in a set corresponds to a single number and that the last number in a sequence represents the total number of objects," New Scientist added.>>Robert Young of Brazil's Pontifical Catholic University of Minas Gerais in Belo Horizonte, tested the theory on 11 mongrels using dog treats.>>The canines were shown treats and then a screen was lowered and the goodies were left as they were or some were added or taken away.>>If a treat was added or taken away the dogs looked at the treats much longer than they did when the goodies were not disturbed, presumably because they had done their sums and the numbers did not meet their expectations.>>"Dogs are descended from wolves, which not only have a large neocortex - the brain's centre of reasoning - but live in large social groups," the magazine said.>>Young believes the mathematical ability could have been used to work out how many allies and enemies they had in a pack. >>>>REUTERS NEWS SERVICE >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 Hi Fraggle > lassie fer president!!! Nah - I can't see that. For a start, dog's are generally trustworthy ;-) > Dogs may be more intelligent than people may think Hey - that makes a big assumption about how intelligent people think dogs are!!! > Dogs usually use high-pitched single barks when they are separated from their owners and a lower, harsher superbark when > strangers approach or the doorbell rings, according to Sophia Yin, an animal behaviourist at the university. > Playful woofs are high-pitched and unevenly spaced. And it took scientific researchers to work this one out? I really must take up science. Most of it seems to be about stating the b****ing obvious and then claiming you've discovered it! BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release 10/07/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 and then patenting it.... > >And it took scientific researchers to work this one out? I really must take >up science. Most of it seems to be about stating the b****ing obvious and >then claiming you've discovered it! > >BB >Peter > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release 10/07/02 > > >To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 Jojo I hope your move goes smoothly - and wish you well for your new home. Don't stay away from the list for too long. Jo Pugs count their babies. I'm sure other dogs do, too, but I've witnessed pugs doing it. They know if one is missing and will look all around the room for it until it is returned -- or you need to show them if a puppy has died so they don't keep looking for it -- jojo (who is currently lurking because she has to pack -- I am moving to NJ on Saturday!!!) EBbrewpunx wrote: hey, we've done worse...Dogs may be more intelligent than people may think-- Mail this story to a friend | Printer friendly version UK: August 1, 2002LONDON - Dogs are probably much cleverer than most people think, according to a new study. Scientists are convinced that dogs can count and researchers at the University of California Davis say they try to convey different messages through the pitch and pace of their barks."Animal behaviourists used to think their bark was simply a way of getting attention. Now a new study suggests that individual dogs have specific barks with a range of meanings," New Scientist magazine said yesterday.Dogs usually use high-pitched single barks when they are separated from their owners and a lower, harsher superbark when strangers approach or the doorbell rings, according to Sophia Yin, an animal behaviourist at the university.Playful woofs are high-pitched and unevenly spaced.Dogs also know when they are being short-changed on treats because they have a basic mathematical ability which enables them to tell when one pile of objects is bigger than another."But to count, an animal has to recognise that each object in a set corresponds to a single number and that the last number in a sequence represents the total number of objects," New Scientist added.Robert Young of Brazil's Pontifical Catholic University of Minas Gerais in Belo Horizonte, tested the theory on 11 mongrels using dog treats.The canines were shown treats and then a screen was lowered and the goodies were left as they were or some were added or taken away.If a treat was added or taken away the dogs looked at the treats much longer than they did when the goodies were not disturbed, presumably because they had done their sums and the numbers did not meet their expectations."Dogs are descended from wolves, which not only have a large neocortex - the brain's centre of reasoning - but live in large social groups," the magazine said.Young believes the mathematical ability could have been used to work out how many allies and enemies they had in a pack. REUTERS NEWS SERVICE To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2002 Report Share Posted August 2, 2002 Thank you so much, Jo !!! I may be without access for a couple of weeks and am *not* looking forward to it at all -- whatever will I do with myself?! -- jojo Heartwork wrote: Jojo I hope your move goes smoothly - and wish you well for your new home. Don't stay away from the list for too long. Jo Pugs count their babies. I'm sure other dogs do, too, but I've witnessed pugs doing it. They know if one is missing and will look all around the room for it until it is returned -- or you need to show them if a puppy has died so they don't keep looking for it -- jojo (who is currently lurking because she has to pack -- I am moving to NJ on Saturday!!!) EBbrewpunx wrote: hey, we've done worse...Dogs may be more intelligent than people may think-- Mail this story to a friend | Printer friendly version UK: August 1, 2002LONDON - Dogs are probably much cleverer than most people think, according to a new study. Scientists are convinced that dogs can count and researchers at the University of California Davis say they try to convey different messages through the pitch and pace of their barks."Animal behaviourists used to think their bark was simply a way of getting attention. Now a new study suggests that individual dogs have specific barks with a range of meanings," New Scientist magazine said yesterday.Dogs usually use high-pitched single barks when they are separated from their owners and a lower, harsher superbark when strangers approach or the doorbell rings, according to Sophia Yin, an animal behaviourist at the university.Playful woofs are high-pitched and unevenly spaced.Dogs also know when they are being short-changed on treats because they have a basic mathematical ability which enables them to tell when one pile of objects is bigger than another."But to count, an animal has to recognise that each object in a set corresponds to a single number and that the last number in a sequence represents the total number of objects," New Scientist added.Robert Young of Brazil's Pontifical Catholic University of Minas Gerais in Belo Horizonte, tested the theory on 11 mongrels using dog treats.The canines were shown treats and then a screen was lowered and the goodies were left as they were or some were added or taken away.If a treat was added or taken away the dogs looked at the treats much longer than they did when the goodies were not disturbed, presumably because they had done their sums and the numbers did not meet their expectations."Dogs are descended from wolves, which not only have a large neocortex - the brain's centre of reasoning - but live in large social groups," the magazine said.Young believes the mathematical ability could have been used to work out how many allies and enemies they had in a pack. REUTERS NEWS SERVICE To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2002 Report Share Posted August 2, 2002 Good Luck JoJo! Have a safe trip! Where are you moving from? nikki , " Heartwork " <Heartwork@b...> wrote: > Jojo > > I hope your move goes smoothly - and wish you well for your new home. Don't stay away from the list for too long. > > Jo > > Pugs count their babies. I'm sure other dogs do, too, but I've witnessed pugs doing it. They know if one is missing and will look all around the room for it until it is returned -- or you need to show them if a puppy has died so they don't keep looking for it > > -- jojo (who is currently lurking because she has to pack -- I am moving to NJ on Saturday!!!) > > > > EBbrewpunx@c... wrote: > > hey, we've done worse... > > Dogs may be more intelligent than people may think > ------------------------------- ---------------- > > Mail this story to a friend | Printer friendly version > > UK: August 1, 2002 > > > LONDON - Dogs are probably much cleverer than most people think, according to a new study. > > > Scientists are convinced that dogs can count and researchers at the University of California Davis say they try to convey different messages through the pitch and pace of their barks. > " Animal behaviourists used to think their bark was simply a way of getting attention. Now a new study suggests that individual dogs have specific barks with a range of meanings, " New Scientist magazine said yesterday. > > Dogs usually use high-pitched single barks when they are separated from their owners and a lower, harsher superbark when strangers approach or the doorbell rings, according to Sophia Yin, an animal behaviourist at the university. > > Playful woofs are high-pitched and unevenly spaced. > > Dogs also know when they are being short-changed on treats because they have a basic mathematical ability which enables them to tell when one pile of objects is bigger than another. > > " But to count, an animal has to recognise that each object in a set corresponds to a single number and that the last number in a sequence represents the total number of objects, " New Scientist added. > > Robert Young of Brazil's Pontifical Catholic University of Minas Gerais in Belo Horizonte, tested the theory on 11 mongrels using dog treats. > > The canines were shown treats and then a screen was lowered and the goodies were left as they were or some were added or taken away. > > If a treat was added or taken away the dogs looked at the treats much longer than they did when the goodies were not disturbed, presumably because they had done their sums and the numbers did not meet their expectations. > > " Dogs are descended from wolves, which not only have a large neocortex - the brain's centre of reasoning - but live in large social groups, " the magazine said. > > Young believes the mathematical ability could have been used to work out how many allies and enemies they had in a pack. > > > > REUTERS NEWS SERVICE > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2002 Report Share Posted August 2, 2002 Thank you, Nikki I'm moving from the eastern side of Long Island, NY. (Not Long Island City, mind you, but the skinny long island that stretches out at the base of the state...it's a silly vacation area for the over-privileged) -- jojo nikki_mackovitch wrote: Good Luck JoJo! Have a safe trip!Where are you moving from?nikki , "Heartwork" <Heartwork@b...> wrote:> Jojo> > I hope your move goes smoothly - and wish you well for your new home. Don't stay away from the list for too long.> > Jo> > Pugs count their babies. I'm sure other dogs do, too, but I've witnessed pugs doing it. They know if one is missing and will look all around the room for it until it is returned -- or you need to show them if a puppy has died so they don't keep looking for it > > -- jojo (who is currently lurking because she has to pack -- I am moving to NJ on Saturday!!!) > > > > EBbrewpunx@c... wrote: > > hey, we've done worse...> > Dogs may be more intelligent than people may think> --> > Mail this story to a friend | Printer friendly version > > UK: August 1, 2002> > > LONDON - Dogs are probably much cleverer than most people think, according to a new study. > > > Scientists are convinced that dogs can count and researchers at the University of California Davis say they try to convey different messages through the pitch and pace of their barks.> "Animal behaviourists used to think their bark was simply a way of getting attention. Now a new study suggests that individual dogs have specific barks with a range of meanings," New Scientist magazine said yesterday.> > Dogs usually use high-pitched single barks when they are separated from their owners and a lower, harsher superbark when strangers approach or the doorbell rings, according to Sophia Yin, an animal behaviourist at the university.> > Playful woofs are high-pitched and unevenly spaced.> > Dogs also know when they are being short-changed on treats because they have a basic mathematical ability which enables them to tell when one pile of objects is bigger than another.> > "But to count, an animal has to recognise that each object in a set corresponds to a single number and that the last number in a sequence represents the total number of objects," New Scientist added.> > Robert Young of Brazil's Pontifical Catholic University of Minas Gerais in Belo Horizonte, tested the theory on 11 mongrels using dog treats.> > The canines were shown treats and then a screen was lowered and the goodies were left as they were or some were added or taken away.> > If a treat was added or taken away the dogs looked at the treats much longer than they did when the goodies were not disturbed, presumably because they had done their sums and the numbers did not meet their expectations.> > "Dogs are descended from wolves, which not only have a large neocortex - the brain's centre of reasoning - but live in large social groups," the magazine said.> > Young believes the mathematical ability could have been used to work out how many allies and enemies they had in a pack. > > > > REUTERS NEWS SERVICE > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2002 Report Share Posted August 2, 2002 read skip bounce daydream get yer sanity back pillage the list is endless really the question, wot will we do without you! cheers fraggle jojo <tofujojo wrote: > >Thank you so much, Jo !!! >I may be without access for a couple of weeks and am *not* looking forward to it at all -- whatever will I do with myself?! >-- jojo > Heartwork wrote:Jojo I hope your move goes smoothly - and wish you well for your new home. Don't stay away from the list for too long. Jo >Pugs count their babies. I'm sure other dogs do, too, but I've witnessed pugs doing it. They know if one is missing and will look all around the room for it until it is returned -- or you need to show them if a puppy has died so they don't keep looking for it >-- jojo (who is currently lurking because she has to pack -- I am moving to NJ on Saturday!!!) > > EBbrewpunx wrote: hey, we've done worse... > >Dogs may be more intelligent than people may think >-\ - > >Mail this story to a friend | Printer friendly version > >UK: August 1, 2002 > > >LONDON - Dogs are probably much cleverer than most people think, according to a new study. > > >Scientists are convinced that dogs can count and researchers at the University of California Davis say they try to convey different messages through the pitch and pace of their barks. > " Animal behaviourists used to think their bark was simply a way of getting attention. Now a new study suggests that individual dogs have specific barks with a range of meanings, " New Scientist magazine said yesterday. > >Dogs usually use high-pitched single barks when they are separated from their owners and a lower, harsher superbark when strangers approach or the doorbell rings, according to Sophia Yin, an animal behaviourist at the university. > >Playful woofs are high-pitched and unevenly spaced. > >Dogs also know when they are being short-changed on treats because they have a basic mathematical ability which enables them to tell when one pile of objects is bigger than another. > > " But to count, an animal has to recognise that each object in a set corresponds to a single number and that the last number in a sequence represents the total number of objects, " New Scientist added. > >Robert Young of Brazil's Pontifical Catholic University of Minas Gerais in Belo Horizonte, tested the theory on 11 mongrels using dog treats. > >The canines were shown treats and then a screen was lowered and the goodies were left as they were or some were added or taken away. > >If a treat was added or taken away the dogs looked at the treats much longer than they did when the goodies were not disturbed, presumably because they had done their sums and the numbers did not meet their expectations. > > " Dogs are descended from wolves, which not only have a large neocortex - the brain's centre of reasoning - but live in large social groups, " the magazine said. > >Young believes the mathematical ability could have been used to work out how many allies and enemies they had in a pack. > > > >REUTERS NEWS SERVICE > > > >To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2002 Report Share Posted August 2, 2002 *blushes* awwwww..... ! Thank you for the suggestions, fraggle. You are absolutely right -- there are a million other things I could be doing. But I will still miss everyone just the same -- jojo EBbrewpunx wrote: readskipbouncedaydreamget yer sanity backpillagethe list is endless reallythe question, wot will we do without you!:)cheersfragglejojo <tofujojo wrote:>>Thank you so much, Jo !!!>I may be without access for a couple of weeks and am *not* looking forward to it at all -- whatever will I do with myself?!>-- jojo> Heartwork wrote:Jojo I hope your move goes smoothly - and wish you well for your new home. Don't stay away from the list for too long. Jo >Pugs count their babies. I'm sure other dogs do, too, but I've witnessed pugs doing it. They know if one is missing and will look all around the room for it until it is returned -- or you need to show them if a puppy has died so they don't keep looking for it >-- jojo (who is currently lurking because she has to pack -- I am moving to NJ on Saturday!!!) >> EBbrewpunx wrote: hey, we've done worse...>>Dogs may be more intelligent than people may think>--> >Mail this story to a friend | Printer friendly version >>UK: August 1, 2002>>>LONDON - Dogs are probably much cleverer than most people think, according to a new study. >>>Scientists are convinced that dogs can count and researchers at the University of California Davis say they try to convey different messages through the pitch and pace of their barks.>"Animal behaviourists used to think their bark was simply a way of getting attention. Now a new study suggests that individual dogs have specific barks with a range of meanings," New Scientist magazine said yesterday.>>Dogs usually use high-pitched single barks when they are separated from their owners and a lower, harsher superbark when strangers approach or the doorbell rings, according to Sophia Yin, an animal behaviourist at the university.>>Playful woofs are high-pitched and unevenly spaced.>>Dogs also know when they are being short-changed on treats because they have a basic mathematical ability which enables them to tell when one pile of objects is bigger than another.>>"But to count, an animal has to recognise that each object in a set corresponds to a single number and that the last number in a sequence represents the total number of objects," New Scientist added.>>Robert Young of Brazil's Pontifical Catholic University of Minas Gerais in Belo Horizonte, tested the theory on 11 mongrels using dog treats.>>The canines were shown treats and then a screen was lowered and the goodies were left as they were or some were added or taken away.>>If a treat was added or taken away the dogs looked at the treats much longer than they did when the goodies were not disturbed, presumably because they had done their sums and the numbers did not meet their expectations.>>"Dogs are descended from wolves, which not only have a large neocortex - the brain's centre of reasoning - but live in large social groups," the magazine said.>>Young believes the mathematical ability could have been used to work out how many allies and enemies they had in a pack. >>>>REUTERS NEWS SERVICE >>>>To send an email to - >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2002 Report Share Posted August 2, 2002 i wonder wot i did before i had a computer.... *scratches head* i never had been on the internet before 1999.... addictive lil bugger ain't it.. is there a 12 step program for it? do i need to get like web tv or something to help ween myself away from it?? maaaan..i don't have a problem..i can quit anytime.... say, can i check my e-mail? fraggle jojo <tofujojo wrote: > >*blushes* >awwwww..... ! >Thank you for the suggestions, fraggle. You are absolutely right -- there are a million other things I could be doing. But I will still miss everyone just the same >-- jojo > EBbrewpunx wrote: >read >skip >bounce >daydream >get yer sanity back >pillage >the list is endless really >the question, wot will we do without you! > >cheers >fraggle > >jojo <tofujojo wrote: > >> >>Thank you so much, Jo !!! >>I may be without access for a couple of weeks and am *not* looking forward to it at all -- whatever will I do with myself?! >>-- jojo >> Heartwork wrote:Jojo I hope your move goes smoothly - and wish you well for your new home. Don't stay away from the list for too long. Jo >>Pugs count their babies. I'm sure other dogs do, too, but I've witnessed pugs doing it. They know if one is missing and will look all around the room for it until it is returned -- or you need to show them if a puppy has died so they don't keep looking for it >>-- jojo (who is currently lurking because she has to pack -- I am moving to NJ on Saturday!!!) >> >> EBbrewpunx wrote: hey, we've done worse... >> >>Dogs may be more intelligent than people may think >>\ -- >> >>Mail this story to a friend | Printer friendly version >> >>UK: August 1, 2002 >> >> >>LONDON - Dogs are probably much cleverer than most people think, according to a new study. >> >> >>Scientists are convinced that dogs can count and researchers at the University of California Davis say they try to convey different messages through the pitch and pace of their barks. >> " Animal behaviourists used to think their bark was simply a way of getting attention. Now a new study suggests that individual dogs have specific barks with a range of meanings, " New Scientist magazine said yesterday. >> >>Dogs usually use high-pitched single barks when they are separated from their owners and a lower, harsher superbark when strangers approach or the doorbell rings, according to Sophia Yin, an animal behaviourist at the university. >> >>Playful woofs are high-pitched and unevenly spaced. >> >>Dogs also know when they are being short-changed on treats because they have a basic mathematical ability which enables them to tell when one pile of objects is bigger than another. >> >> " But to count, an animal has to recognise that each object in a set corresponds to a single number and that the last number in a sequence represents the total number of objects, " New Scientist added. >> >>Robert Young of Brazil's Pontifical Catholic University of Minas Gerais in Belo Horizonte, tested the theory on 11 mongrels using dog treats. >> >>The canines were shown treats and then a screen was lowered and the goodies were left as they were or some were added or taken away. >> >>If a treat was added or taken away the dogs looked at the treats much longer than they did when the goodies were not disturbed, presumably because they had done their sums and the numbers did not meet their expectations. >> >> " Dogs are descended from wolves, which not only have a large neocortex - the brain's centre of reasoning - but live in large social groups, " the magazine said. >> >>Young believes the mathematical ability could have been used to work out how many allies and enemies they had in a pack. >> >> >> >>REUTERS NEWS SERVICE >> >> >> >>To send an email to - >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2002 Report Share Posted August 2, 2002 Hi Fraggle > is there a 12 step program for it? do i need to get like web tv or something to help ween myself away from it?? I believe you can get patches :-) I guess after a pun like that I'd better go and hide for a bit.... BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release 10/07/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2002 Report Share Posted August 2, 2002 That was about the time I started, too. 1998 or 1999. I taught myself web design, animation, graphic design, scripting, etc and did my website all by myself! That's my pride and joy -- have you seen the game on the website where you can dress up Rhesus? http://www.tofu2go.com/dressup_rhesus.htm that should keep you entertained for all of 5 seconds. jojo EBbrewpunx wrote: i wonder wot i did before i had a computer....*scratches head*i never had been on the internet before 1999....addictive lil bugger ain't it..is there a 12 step program for it? do i need to get like web tv or something to help ween myself away from it??maaaan..i don't have a problem..i can quit anytime....say, can i check my e-mail?fragglejojo <tofujojo wrote:>>*blushes*>awwwww..... !>Thank you for the suggestions, fraggle. You are absolutely right -- there are a million other things I could be doing. But I will still miss everyone just the same >-- jojo> EBbrewpunx wrote:>read>skip>bounce>daydream>get yer sanity back>pillage>the list is endless really>the question, wot will we do without you!>>cheers>fraggle>>jojo <tofujojo wrote:>>>>>Thank you so much, Jo !!!>>I may be without access for a couple of weeks and am *not* looking forward to it at all -- whatever will I do with myself?!>>-- jojo>> Heartwork wrote:Jojo I hope your move goes smoothly - and wish you well for your new home. Don't stay away from the list for too long. Jo >>Pugs count their babies. I'm sure other dogs do, too, but I've witnessed pugs doing it. They know if one is missing and will look all around the room for it until it is returned -- or you need to show them if a puppy has died so they don't keep looking for it >>-- jojo (who is currently lurking because she has to pack -- I am moving to NJ on Saturday!!!) >>>> EBbrewpunx wrote: hey, we've done worse...>>>>Dogs may be more intelligent than people may think>>-->> >>Mail this story to a friend | Printer friendly version >>>>UK: August 1, 2002>>>>>>LONDON - Dogs are probably much cleverer than most people think, according to a new study. >>>>>>Scientists are convinced that dogs can count and researchers at the University of California Davis say they try to convey different messages through the pitch and pace of their barks.>>"Animal behaviourists used to think their bark was simply a way of getting attention. Now a new study suggests that individual dogs have specific barks with a range of meanings," New Scientist magazine said yesterday.>>>>Dogs usually use high-pitched single barks when they are separated from their owners and a lower, harsher superbark when strangers approach or the doorbell rings, according to Sophia Yin, an animal behaviourist at the university.>>>>Playful woofs are high-pitched and unevenly spaced.>>>>Dogs also know when they are being short-changed on treats because they have a basic mathematical ability which enables them to tell when one pile of objects is bigger than another.>>>>"But to count, an animal has to recognise that each object in a set corresponds to a single number and that the last number in a sequence represents the total number of objects," New Scientist added.>>>>Robert Young of Brazil's Pontifical Catholic University of Minas Gerais in Belo Horizonte, tested the theory on 11 mongrels using dog treats.>>>>The canines were shown treats and then a screen was lowered and the goodies were left as they were or some were added or taken away.>>>>If a treat was added or taken away the dogs looked at the treats much longer than they did when the goodies were not disturbed, presumably because they had done their sums and the numbers did not meet their expectations.>>>>"Dogs are descended from wolves, which not only have a large neocortex - the brain's centre of reasoning - but live in large social groups," the magazine said.>>>>Young believes the mathematical ability could have been used to work out how many allies and enemies they had in a pack. >>>>>>>>REUTERS NEWS SERVICE >>>>>>>>To send an email to - >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2002 Report Share Posted August 2, 2002 whhhhhheeee now..wot are those pink olive thingees on the right fer?? eyes and testes come in pairs genrally..soo..i'm a bit lost...and lolipops have sticks... small pox nodules?? fraggle jojo <tofujojo wrote: > >That was about the time I started, too. 1998 or 1999. >I taught myself web design, animation, graphic design, scripting, etc and did my website all by myself! That's my pride and joy -- have you seen the game on the website where you can dress up Rhesus? >http://www.tofu2go.com/dressup_rhesus.htm >that should keep you entertained for all of 5 seconds. > >jojo > EBbrewpunx wrote:i wonder wot i did before i had a computer.... >*scratches head* >i never had been on the internet before 1999.... >addictive lil bugger ain't it.. >is there a 12 step program for it? do i need to get like web tv or something to help ween myself away from it?? >maaaan..i don't have a problem..i can quit anytime.... >say, can i check my e-mail? > >fraggle > > >jojo <tofujojo wrote: > >> >>*blushes* >>awwwww..... ! >>Thank you for the suggestions, fraggle. You are absolutely right -- there are a million other things I could be doing. But I will still miss everyone just the same >>-- jojo >> EBbrewpunx wrote: >>read >>skip >>bounce >>daydream >>get yer sanity back >>pillage >>the list is endless really >>the question, wot will we do without you! >> >>cheers >>fraggle >> >>jojo <tofujojo wrote: >> >>> >>>Thank you so much, Jo !!! >>>I may be without access for a couple of weeks and am *not* looking forward to it at all -- whatever will I do with myself?! >>>-- jojo >>> Heartwork wrote:Jojo I hope your move goes smoothly - and wish you well for your new home. Don't stay away from the list for too long. Jo >>>Pugs count their babies. I'm sure other dogs do, too, but I've witnessed pugs doing it. They know if one is missing and will look all around the room for it until it is returned -- or you need to show them if a puppy has died so they don't keep looking for it >>>-- jojo (who is currently lurking because she has to pack -- I am moving to NJ on Saturday!!!) >>> >>> EBbrewpunx wrote: hey, we've done worse... >>> >>>Dogs may be more intelligent than people may think >>>-----------\ --- >>> >>>Mail this story to a friend | Printer friendly version >>> >>>UK: August 1, 2002 >>> >>> >>>LONDON - Dogs are probably much cleverer than most people think, according to a new study. >>> >>> >>>Scientists are convinced that dogs can count and researchers at the University of California Davis say they try to convey different messages through the pitch and pace of their barks. >>> " Animal behaviourists used to think their bark was simply a way of getting attention. Now a new study suggests that individual dogs have specific barks with a range of meanings, " New Scientist magazine said yesterday. >>> >>>Dogs usually use high-pitched single barks when they are separated from their owners and a lower, harsher superbark when strangers approach or the doorbell rings, according to Sophia Yin, an animal behaviourist at the university. >>> >>>Playful woofs are high-pitched and unevenly spaced. >>> >>>Dogs also know when they are being short-changed on treats because they have a basic mathematical ability which enables them to tell when one pile of objects is bigger than another. >>> >>> " But to count, an animal has to recognise that each object in a set corresponds to a single number and that the last number in a sequence represents the total number of objects, " New Scientist added. >>> >>>Robert Young of Brazil's Pontifical Catholic University of Minas Gerais in Belo Horizonte, tested the theory on 11 mongrels using dog treats. >>> >>>The canines were shown treats and then a screen was lowered and the goodies were left as they were or some were added or taken away. >>> >>>If a treat was added or taken away the dogs looked at the treats much longer than they did when the goodies were not disturbed, presumably because they had done their sums and the numbers did not meet their expectations. >>> >>> " Dogs are descended from wolves, which not only have a large neocortex - the brain's centre of reasoning - but live in large social groups, " the magazine said. >>> >>>Young believes the mathematical ability could have been used to work out how many allies and enemies they had in a pack. >>> >>> >>> >>>REUTERS NEWS SERVICE >>> >>> >>> >>>To send an email to - >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2002 Report Share Posted August 2, 2002 They're little bubbles -- you can put them around her mouth or above her head. Rhesus has little space-out episodes and that is where I came up with the idea... She just sort of stands there in a trance... Yep! She's my *special* girl -- jojo EBbrewpunx wrote: whhhhhheeeenow..wot are those pink olive thingees on the right fer??eyes and testes come in pairs genrally..soo..i'm a bit lost...and lolipops have sticks...small pox nodules??fragglejojo <tofujojo wrote:>>That was about the time I started, too. 1998 or 1999.>I taught myself web design, animation, graphic design, scripting, etc and did my website all by myself! That's my pride and joy -- have you seen the game on the website where you can dress up Rhesus?>http://www.tofu2go.com/dressup_rhesus.htm>that should keep you entertained for all of 5 seconds.>>jojo> EBbrewpunx wrote:i wonder wot i did before i had a computer....>*scratches head*>i never had been on the internet before 1999....>addictive lil bugger ain't it..>is there a 12 step program for it? do i need to get like web tv or something to help ween myself away from it??>maaaan..i don't have a problem..i can quit anytime....>say, can i check my e-mail?>>fraggle>>>jojo <tofujojo wrote:>>>>>*blushes*>>awwwww..... !>>Thank you for the suggestions, fraggle. You are absolutely right -- there are a million other things I could be doing. But I will still miss everyone just the same >>-- jojo>> EBbrewpunx wrote:>>read>>skip>>bounce>>daydream>>get yer sanity back>>pillage>>the list is endless really>>the question, wot will we do without you!>>>>cheers>>fraggle>>>>jojo <tofujojo wrote:>>>>>>>>Thank you so much, Jo !!!>>>I may be without access for a couple of weeks and am *not* looking forward to it at all -- whatever will I do with myself?!>>>-- jojo>>> Heartwork wrote:Jojo I hope your move goes smoothly - and wish you well for your new home. Don't stay away from the list for too long. Jo >>>Pugs count their babies. I'm sure other dogs do, too, but I've witnessed pugs doing it. They know if one is missing and will look all around the room for it until it is returned -- or you need to show them if a puppy has died so they don't keep looking for it >>>-- jojo (who is currently lurking because she has to pack -- I am moving to NJ on Saturday!!!) >>>>>> EBbrewpunx wrote: hey, we've done worse...>>>>>>Dogs may be more intelligent than people may think>>>-->>> >>>Mail this story to a friend | Printer friendly version >>>>>>UK: August 1, 2002>>>>>>>>>LONDON - Dogs are probably much cleverer than most people think, according to a new study. >>>>>>>>>Scientists are convinced that dogs can count and researchers at the University of California Davis say they try to convey different messages through the pitch and pace of their barks.>>>"Animal behaviourists used to think their bark was simply a way of getting attention. Now a new study suggests that individual dogs have specific barks with a range of meanings," New Scientist magazine said yesterday.>>>>>>Dogs usually use high-pitched single barks when they are separated from their owners and a lower, harsher superbark when strangers approach or the doorbell rings, according to Sophia Yin, an animal behaviourist at the university.>>>>>>Playful woofs are high-pitched and unevenly spaced.>>>>>>Dogs also know when they are being short-changed on treats because they have a basic mathematical ability which enables them to tell when one pile of objects is bigger than another.>>>>>>"But to count, an animal has to recognise that each object in a set corresponds to a single number and that the last number in a sequence represents the total number of objects," New Scientist added.>>>>>>Robert Young of Brazil's Pontifical Catholic University of Minas Gerais in Belo Horizonte, tested the theory on 11 mongrels using dog treats.>>>>>>The canines were shown treats and then a screen was lowered and the goodies were left as they were or some were added or taken away.>>>>>>If a treat was added or taken away the dogs looked at the treats much longer than they did when the goodies were not disturbed, presumably because they had done their sums and the numbers did not meet their expectations.>>>>>>"Dogs are descended from wolves, which not only have a large neocortex - the brain's centre of reasoning - but live in large social groups," the magazine said.>>>>>>Young believes the mathematical ability could have been used to work out how many allies and enemies they had in a pack. >>>>>>>>>>>>REUTERS NEWS SERVICE >>>>>>>>>>>>To send an email to - >>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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