Guest guest Posted August 15, 2002 Report Share Posted August 15, 2002 , " cav2was7 " <geraldine.mccarthy@n...> wrote: > Hi Bruno, > I hope you are well recovered from you wasp stings!!!! Thank you for your kind thought Geraldine! )/ I'm pretty well recovered! But first ... I'd like to publicly apologize to the Anti-PETA club for reposting my wasp story on their club page. Anti-PETA/ and for calling them nasty, vile-puffy, meatatarian servants of the evil one. I made fun of them. I'm sorry. I hate hurting people. I shouldn't be mean just because they're capturing babies. And making them cry. And then stopping their pulse and breath. And eating them. After all, they're just following the Food Chain. And who knows? They might have a good reason. Maybe their dog is telling them to eat babies over their car radio. But some day those who love God's voice will stand, and all gravy spoons will be dashed against the rocks. Angels in heaven will dance at the clang. All turkey knives will drop on the turkey carver's knee. The last Thanksgiving will be renamed Band-aid Day. Grandmother will kneel in several drops of turkey blood and will apologize to the young one she has killed. And then the trumpet will sound and all cheese patties will slip out of the bun and back onto the cow. I believe this. I really do. It's the only thing that makes sense. I read in a science book, The Physics of Immortality, that in a trillion years or so, life will control the entire universe. And we will then be able to recreate everthing that lived in the past or possibly lived and make them be happy this time. It makes sense. I'd work for that. I'll work for happiness, and lots of others will to, forever and ever and ever. I'm sure of it. I'm happy today too!! ------------------ bruno_von_lederhosen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2002 Report Share Posted August 15, 2002 I love your messages Bruno, you have a real gift! I wasn't sure if your story about the wasp stings was true or specifically written as an entertaining piece, glad you are OK though. We have a lot of mosquitoes here and are getting bitten quite a bit, nowhere near as bad as a wasp sting though, just itchy and red. Why does your name mean "of leather trousers/shorts" (or something similar), now that is not a very vegan-sounding name is it?! You should consider changing it to "von loricahosen" or something like that, I think! My husband read a science fiction book once, Riverworld, by Philip Jose Farmer, where some aliens created a world and brought back to life all who had lived before to give them a chance at being immortal, like the idea from that science book you read. I noticed I had made a possible mistake the other day, bought a Robinson's Apple and Blackcurrant concentrate and after we drunk it nearly all (it was for the kids mostly), my husband noticed it had vitamin D added which is most likely not vegan, so beware of Robinson's drinks, I'd never noticed they added vitamin D before as I don't usually get their drinks. Won't do it again, I assumed all soft drinks of this type were vegan unless they had E120 in them or were an orange drink containing beta-carotene which is sometimes processed using gelatine. Just this one time I didn't read the label clearly. Lesley bruno_von_lederhosen [bruno_von_lederhosen]15 August 2002 10:49 Subject: An Apology to Anti-PETA, "cav2was7" <geraldine.mccarthy@n...> wrote:> Hi Bruno,> I hope you are well recovered from you wasp stings!!!!Thank you for your kind thought Geraldine! )/I'm pretty well recovered!But first ... I'd like to publicly apologize to the Anti-PETA club for reposting my wasp story on their club page.Anti-PETA/ and for calling them nasty, vile-puffy, meatatarian servants of the evil one.I made fun of them. I'msorry.I hate hurting people.I shouldn't be mean just because they're capturing babies.And making them cry.And then stopping their pulse and breath. And eating them.After all, they're just following the Food Chain.And who knows? They mighthave a good reason.Maybe their dog is telling them to eat babies over their car radio.But some day those who love God's voice will stand, and all gravy spoons will be dashed against the rocks.Angels in heaven will dance at the clang.All turkey knives will drop onthe turkey carver's knee.The last Thanksgiving will be renamed Band-aid Day.Grandmother will kneel inseveral drops of turkey blood and will apologize to the youngone she has killed.And then the trumpet will sound and all cheese patties will slip out of the bun and back onto the cow.I believe this.I really do.It's the only thing that makes sense.I read in a science book, The Physics of Immortality, that in a trillion years or so, life will control the entire universe.And we will then be able to recreate everthing that lived in the past or possibly lived and make them be happy this time.It makes sense.I'd work for that.I'll work for happiness, and lots of others will to, forever and ever and ever.I'm sure of it.I'm happy today too!!------------------bruno_von_lederhosenTo send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2002 Report Share Posted August 15, 2002 lederhosen are german leather short pants lesley.... you know, those pants they traditionally wear in bavaria, with hats with the lil brush thingees, ompah pah bands, and steins of paulener lager cheers fraggle " Lesley Dove " <Lesley wrote: > >I love your messages Bruno, you have a real gift! I wasn't sure if your >story about the wasp stings was true or specifically written as an >entertaining piece, glad you are OK though. We have a lot of mosquitoes here >and are getting bitten quite a bit, nowhere near as bad as a wasp sting >though, just itchy and red. > >Why does your name mean " of leather trousers/shorts " (or something similar), >now that is not a very vegan-sounding name is it?! > >You should consider changing it to " von loricahosen " or something like that, >I think! > >My husband read a science fiction book once, Riverworld, by Philip Jose >Farmer, where some aliens created a world and brought back to life all who >had lived before to give them a chance at being immortal, like the idea from >that science book you read. > >I noticed I had made a possible mistake the other day, bought a Robinson's >Apple and Blackcurrant concentrate and after we drunk it nearly all (it was >for the kids mostly), my husband noticed it had vitamin D added which is >most likely not vegan, so beware of Robinson's drinks, I'd never noticed >they added vitamin D before as I don't usually get their drinks. Won't do it >again, I assumed all soft drinks of this type were vegan unless they had >E120 in them or were an orange drink containing beta-carotene which is >sometimes processed using gelatine. Just this one time I didn't read the >label clearly. > >Lesley > > > bruno_von_lederhosen [bruno_von_lederhosen] > 15 August 2002 10:49 > > An Apology to Anti-PETA > > > , " cav2was7 " <geraldine.mccarthy@n...> wrote: > > Hi Bruno, > > I hope you are well recovered from you wasp stings!!!! > > Thank you for your kind > thought Geraldine! )/ > > I'm pretty well recovered! > > But first ... I'd like to publicly > apologize to the Anti-PETA > club for reposting my > wasp story on their club page. > > Anti-PETA/ > > and for calling them nasty, > vile-puffy, meatatarian > servants of the evil one. > > I made fun of them. I'm > sorry. > > I hate hurting people. > > I shouldn't be mean just > because they're capturing > babies. > > And making them cry. > > And then stopping their > pulse and breath. And eating > them. > > After all, they're just > following the Food Chain. > > And who knows? They might > have a good reason. > > Maybe their dog is telling > them to eat babies over > their car radio. > > But some day those who > love God's voice will stand, > and all gravy spoons will be > dashed against the rocks. > > Angels in heaven will dance > at the clang. > > All turkey knives will drop on > the turkey carver's knee. > > The last Thanksgiving will > be renamed Band-aid Day. > > Grandmother will kneel in > several drops of turkey blood > and will apologize to the young > one she has killed. > > And then the trumpet will > sound and all cheese patties > will slip out of the bun and > back onto the cow. > > I believe this. > > I really do. > > It's the only thing that > makes sense. > > I read in a science book, The > Physics of Immortality, that > in a trillion years or so, life > will control the entire universe. > > And we will then be able to > recreate everthing that lived > in the past or possibly lived and > make them be happy this time. > > It makes sense. > > I'd work for that. > > I'll work for happiness, and > lots of others will to, forever > and ever and ever. > > I'm sure of it. > > I'm happy today too!! > > > ------------------ > bruno_von_lederhosen > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2002 Report Share Posted August 16, 2002 Bruno, Thank you once again fer starting my day with good thoughts! I simply LOVE yer messages. Keep up the creative flow and know you'll always have an ear here. nikki , " bruno_von_lederhosen " <bruno_von_lederhosen> wrote: > , " cav2was7 " <geraldine.mccarthy@n...> wrote: > > Hi Bruno, > > I hope you are well recovered from you wasp stings!!!! > > Thank you for your kind > thought Geraldine! )/ > > I'm pretty well recovered! > > But first ... I'd like to publicly > apologize to the Anti-PETA > club for reposting my > wasp story on their club page. > > Anti-PETA/ > > and for calling them nasty, > vile-puffy, meatatarian > servants of the evil one. > > I made fun of them. I'm > sorry. > > I hate hurting people. > > I shouldn't be mean just > because they're capturing > babies. > > And making them cry. > > And then stopping their > pulse and breath. And eating > them. > > After all, they're just > following the Food Chain. > > And who knows? They might > have a good reason. > > Maybe their dog is telling > them to eat babies over > their car radio. > > But some day those who > love God's voice will stand, > and all gravy spoons will be > dashed against the rocks. > > Angels in heaven will dance > at the clang. > > All turkey knives will drop on > the turkey carver's knee. > > The last Thanksgiving will > be renamed Band-aid Day. > > Grandmother will kneel in > several drops of turkey blood > and will apologize to the young > one she has killed. > > And then the trumpet will > sound and all cheese patties > will slip out of the bun and > back onto the cow. > > I believe this. > > I really do. > > It's the only thing that > makes sense. > > I read in a science book, The > Physics of Immortality, that > in a trillion years or so, life > will control the entire universe. > > And we will then be able to > recreate everthing that lived > in the past or possibly lived and > make them be happy this time. > > It makes sense. > > I'd work for that. > > I'll work for happiness, and > lots of others will to, forever > and ever and ever. > > I'm sure of it. > > I'm happy today too!! > > > ------------------ > bruno_von_lederhosen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2002 Report Share Posted August 16, 2002 Lesley and all, Being still somewhat new to this, please tell me about " added Vitamin D " . I am assuming when added it derives from an animal source from your post, but don't know anything about it. Thx fer the heads up! nikki , " Lesley Dove " <Lesley@v...> wrote: > > I love your messages Bruno, you have a real gift! I wasn't sure if your > story about the wasp stings was true or specifically written as an > entertaining piece, glad you are OK though. We have a lot of mosquitoes here > and are getting bitten quite a bit, nowhere near as bad as a wasp sting > though, just itchy and red. > > Why does your name mean " of leather trousers/shorts " (or something similar), > now that is not a very vegan-sounding name is it?! > > You should consider changing it to " von loricahosen " or something like that, > I think! > > My husband read a science fiction book once, Riverworld, by Philip Jose > Farmer, where some aliens created a world and brought back to life all who > had lived before to give them a chance at being immortal, like the idea from > that science book you read. > > I noticed I had made a possible mistake the other day, bought a Robinson's > Apple and Blackcurrant concentrate and after we drunk it nearly all (it was > for the kids mostly), my husband noticed it had vitamin D added which is > most likely not vegan, so beware of Robinson's drinks, I'd never noticed > they added vitamin D before as I don't usually get their drinks. Won't do it > again, I assumed all soft drinks of this type were vegan unless they had > E120 in them or were an orange drink containing beta-carotene which is > sometimes processed using gelatine. Just this one time I didn't read the > label clearly. > > Lesley > > > bruno_von_lederhosen [bruno_von_lederhosen] > 15 August 2002 10:49 > > An Apology to Anti-PETA > > > , " cav2was7 " <geraldine.mccarthy@n...> wrote: > > Hi Bruno, > > I hope you are well recovered from you wasp stings!!!! > > Thank you for your kind > thought Geraldine! )/ > > I'm pretty well recovered! > > But first ... I'd like to publicly > apologize to the Anti-PETA > club for reposting my > wasp story on their club page. > > Anti-PETA/ > > and for calling them nasty, > vile-puffy, meatatarian > servants of the evil one. > > I made fun of them. I'm > sorry. > > I hate hurting people. > > I shouldn't be mean just > because they're capturing > babies. > > And making them cry. > > And then stopping their > pulse and breath. And eating > them. > > After all, they're just > following the Food Chain. > > And who knows? They might > have a good reason. > > Maybe their dog is telling > them to eat babies over > their car radio. > > But some day those who > love God's voice will stand, > and all gravy spoons will be > dashed against the rocks. > > Angels in heaven will dance > at the clang. > > All turkey knives will drop on > the turkey carver's knee. > > The last Thanksgiving will > be renamed Band-aid Day. > > Grandmother will kneel in > several drops of turkey blood > and will apologize to the young > one she has killed. > > And then the trumpet will > sound and all cheese patties > will slip out of the bun and > back onto the cow. > > I believe this. > > I really do. > > It's the only thing that > makes sense. > > I read in a science book, The > Physics of Immortality, that > in a trillion years or so, life > will control the entire universe. > > And we will then be able to > recreate everthing that lived > in the past or possibly lived and > make them be happy this time. > > It makes sense. > > I'd work for that. > > I'll work for happiness, and > lots of others will to, forever > and ever and ever. > > I'm sure of it. > > I'm happy today too!! > > > ------------------ > bruno_von_lederhosen > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2002 Report Share Posted August 16, 2002 Most added vitamin D is derived from lanolin, I believe. Some specifically vegan products do contain vegan vitamin D and are labelled as such. There is D2 and D3, here is the Vegan Society page on vitamin D, it explains which is which, but most companies adding vit D do not state on the label if it is D2 or D3, and mostly it is in fact the animal derived D3, eg in many of Kelloggs and other breakfast cereals in the UK. A lot of products say that they are vegetarian and yet contain D3, which is of course inaccurate labelling since it could come from wool obtained as a slaughter by product, so is not even truly vegetarian as well as not being vegan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2002 Report Share Posted August 16, 2002 Thx Lesley! I would have never known this had you not have posted yer reply! nikki <going to read her labels now> , " Lesley Dove " <Lesley@v...> wrote: > > Most added vitamin D is derived from lanolin, I believe. > Some specifically vegan products do contain vegan vitamin D and are labelled > as such. > There is D2 and D3, here is the Vegan Society page on vitamin D, it explains > which is which, but most companies adding vit D do not state on the label if > it is D2 or D3, and mostly it is in fact the animal derived D3, eg in many > of Kelloggs and other breakfast cereals in the UK. A lot of products say > that they are vegetarian and yet contain D3, which is of course inaccurate > labelling since it could come from wool obtained as a slaughter by product, > so is not even truly vegetarian as well as not being vegan. > > http://www.vegansociety.com/html/info/info17.html > > Lesley > > > > nikki_mackovitch [nikkimack@m...] > 16 August 2002 11:25 > > Re: An Apology to Anti-PETA > > > Lesley and all, > > Being still somewhat new to this, please tell me about " added Vitamin > D " . I am assuming when added it derives from an animal source from > your post, but don't know anything about it. > > Thx fer the heads up! > > nikki > > > > , " Lesley Dove " <Lesley@v...> wrote: > > > > I love your messages Bruno, you have a real gift! I wasn't sure if > your > > story about the wasp stings was true or specifically written as an > > entertaining piece, glad you are OK though. We have a lot of > mosquitoes here > > and are getting bitten quite a bit, nowhere near as bad as a wasp > sting > > though, just itchy and red. > > > > Why does your name mean " of leather trousers/shorts " (or something > similar), > > now that is not a very vegan-sounding name is it?! > > > > You should consider changing it to " von loricahosen " or something > like that, > > I think! > > > > My husband read a science fiction book once, Riverworld, by Philip > Jose > > Farmer, where some aliens created a world and brought back to life > all who > > had lived before to give them a chance at being immortal, like the > idea from > > that science book you read. > > > > I noticed I had made a possible mistake the other day, bought a > Robinson's > > Apple and Blackcurrant concentrate and after we drunk it nearly all > (it was > > for the kids mostly), my husband noticed it had vitamin D added > which is > > most likely not vegan, so beware of Robinson's drinks, I'd never > noticed > > they added vitamin D before as I don't usually get their drinks. > Won't do it > > again, I assumed all soft drinks of this type were vegan unless > they had > > E120 in them or were an orange drink containing beta-carotene which > is > > sometimes processed using gelatine. Just this one time I didn't > read the > > label clearly. > > > > Lesley > > > > > > bruno_von_lederhosen [bruno_von_lederhosen] > > 15 August 2002 10:49 > > > > An Apology to Anti-PETA > > > > > > , " cav2was7 " <geraldine.mccarthy@n...> > wrote: > > > Hi Bruno, > > > I hope you are well recovered from you wasp stings!!!! > > > > Thank you for your kind > > thought Geraldine! )/ > > > > I'm pretty well recovered! > > > > But first ... I'd like to publicly > > apologize to the Anti-PETA > > club for reposting my > > wasp story on their club page. > > > > Anti-PETA/ > > > > and for calling them nasty, > > vile-puffy, meatatarian > > servants of the evil one. > > > > I made fun of them. I'm > > sorry. > > > > I hate hurting people. > > > > I shouldn't be mean just > > because they're capturing > > babies. > > > > And making them cry. > > > > And then stopping their > > pulse and breath. And eating > > them. > > > > After all, they're just > > following the Food Chain. > > > > And who knows? They might > > have a good reason. > > > > Maybe their dog is telling > > them to eat babies over > > their car radio. > > > > But some day those who > > love God's voice will stand, > > and all gravy spoons will be > > dashed against the rocks. > > > > Angels in heaven will dance > > at the clang. > > > > All turkey knives will drop on > > the turkey carver's knee. > > > > The last Thanksgiving will > > be renamed Band-aid Day. > > > > Grandmother will kneel in > > several drops of turkey blood > > and will apologize to the young > > one she has killed. > > > > And then the trumpet will > > sound and all cheese patties > > will slip out of the bun and > > back onto the cow. > > > > I believe this. > > > > I really do. > > > > It's the only thing that > > makes sense. > > > > I read in a science book, The > > Physics of Immortality, that > > in a trillion years or so, life > > will control the entire universe. > > > > And we will then be able to > > recreate everthing that lived > > in the past or possibly lived and > > make them be happy this time. > > > > It makes sense. > > > > I'd work for that. > > > > I'll work for happiness, and > > lots of others will to, forever > > and ever and ever. > > > > I'm sure of it. > > > > I'm happy today too!! > > > > > > ------------------ > > bruno_von_lederhosen > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2002 Report Share Posted August 16, 2002 it depends some can be from animal source, D3 can come from pigs... some is vegetarian..you have to read labels and ask fraggle " Lesley Dove " <Lesley wrote: > >Most added vitamin D is derived from lanolin, I believe. >Some specifically vegan products do contain vegan vitamin D and are labelled >as such. >There is D2 and D3, here is the Vegan Society page on vitamin D, it explains >which is which, but most companies adding vit D do not state on the label if >it is D2 or D3, and mostly it is in fact the animal derived D3, eg in many >of Kelloggs and other breakfast cereals in the UK. A lot of products say >that they are vegetarian and yet contain D3, which is of course inaccurate >labelling since it could come from wool obtained as a slaughter by product, >so is not even truly vegetarian as well as not being vegan. > >http://www.vegansociety.com/html/info/info17.html > >Lesley > > > > nikki_mackovitch [nikkimack] > 16 August 2002 11:25 > > Re: An Apology to Anti-PETA > > > Lesley and all, > > Being still somewhat new to this, please tell me about " added Vitamin > D " . I am assuming when added it derives from an animal source from > your post, but don't know anything about it. > > Thx fer the heads up! > > nikki > > > > , " Lesley Dove " <Lesley@v...> wrote: > > > > I love your messages Bruno, you have a real gift! I wasn't sure if > your > > story about the wasp stings was true or specifically written as an > > entertaining piece, glad you are OK though. We have a lot of > mosquitoes here > > and are getting bitten quite a bit, nowhere near as bad as a wasp > sting > > though, just itchy and red. > > > > Why does your name mean " of leather trousers/shorts " (or something > similar), > > now that is not a very vegan-sounding name is it?! > > > > You should consider changing it to " von loricahosen " or something > like that, > > I think! > > > > My husband read a science fiction book once, Riverworld, by Philip > Jose > > Farmer, where some aliens created a world and brought back to life > all who > > had lived before to give them a chance at being immortal, like the > idea from > > that science book you read. > > > > I noticed I had made a possible mistake the other day, bought a > Robinson's > > Apple and Blackcurrant concentrate and after we drunk it nearly all > (it was > > for the kids mostly), my husband noticed it had vitamin D added > which is > > most likely not vegan, so beware of Robinson's drinks, I'd never > noticed > > they added vitamin D before as I don't usually get their drinks. > Won't do it > > again, I assumed all soft drinks of this type were vegan unless > they had > > E120 in them or were an orange drink containing beta-carotene which > is > > sometimes processed using gelatine. Just this one time I didn't > read the > > label clearly. > > > > Lesley > > > > > > bruno_von_lederhosen [bruno_von_lederhosen] > > 15 August 2002 10:49 > > > > An Apology to Anti-PETA > > > > > > , " cav2was7 " <geraldine.mccarthy@n...> > wrote: > > > Hi Bruno, > > > I hope you are well recovered from you wasp stings!!!! > > > > Thank you for your kind > > thought Geraldine! )/ > > > > I'm pretty well recovered! > > > > But first ... I'd like to publicly > > apologize to the Anti-PETA > > club for reposting my > > wasp story on their club page. > > > > Anti-PETA/ > > > > and for calling them nasty, > > vile-puffy, meatatarian > > servants of the evil one. > > > > I made fun of them. I'm > > sorry. > > > > I hate hurting people. > > > > I shouldn't be mean just > > because they're capturing > > babies. > > > > And making them cry. > > > > And then stopping their > > pulse and breath. And eating > > them. > > > > After all, they're just > > following the Food Chain. > > > > And who knows? They might > > have a good reason. > > > > Maybe their dog is telling > > them to eat babies over > > their car radio. > > > > But some day those who > > love God's voice will stand, > > and all gravy spoons will be > > dashed against the rocks. > > > > Angels in heaven will dance > > at the clang. > > > > All turkey knives will drop on > > the turkey carver's knee. > > > > The last Thanksgiving will > > be renamed Band-aid Day. > > > > Grandmother will kneel in > > several drops of turkey blood > > and will apologize to the young > > one she has killed. > > > > And then the trumpet will > > sound and all cheese patties > > will slip out of the bun and > > back onto the cow. > > > > I believe this. > > > > I really do. > > > > It's the only thing that > > makes sense. > > > > I read in a science book, The > > Physics of Immortality, that > > in a trillion years or so, life > > will control the entire universe. > > > > And we will then be able to > > recreate everthing that lived > > in the past or possibly lived and > > make them be happy this time. > > > > It makes sense. > > > > I'd work for that. > > > > I'll work for happiness, and > > lots of others will to, forever > > and ever and ever. > > > > I'm sure of it. > > > > I'm happy today too!! > > > > > > ------------------ > > bruno_von_lederhosen > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2002 Report Share Posted August 17, 2002 Thx fraggle! You see, I am learning something everyday! nikki <glad fer this groups support> , EBbrewpunx@c... wrote: > it depends > some can be from animal source, D3 can come from pigs... > some is vegetarian..you have to read labels and ask > > fraggle > > " Lesley Dove " <Lesley@v...> wrote: > > > > >Most added vitamin D is derived from lanolin, I believe. > >Some specifically vegan products do contain vegan vitamin D and are labelled > >as such. > >There is D2 and D3, here is the Vegan Society page on vitamin D, it explains > >which is which, but most companies adding vit D do not state on the label if > >it is D2 or D3, and mostly it is in fact the animal derived D3, eg in many > >of Kelloggs and other breakfast cereals in the UK. A lot of products say > >that they are vegetarian and yet contain D3, which is of course inaccurate > >labelling since it could come from wool obtained as a slaughter by product, > >so is not even truly vegetarian as well as not being vegan. > > > >http://www.vegansociety.com/html/info/info17.html > > > >Lesley > > > > > > > > nikki_mackovitch [nikkimack@m...] > > 16 August 2002 11:25 > > > > Re: An Apology to Anti-PETA > > > > > > Lesley and all, > > > > Being still somewhat new to this, please tell me about " added Vitamin > > D " . I am assuming when added it derives from an animal source from > > your post, but don't know anything about it. > > > > Thx fer the heads up! > > > > nikki > > > > > > > > , " Lesley Dove " <Lesley@v...> wrote: > > > > > > I love your messages Bruno, you have a real gift! I wasn't sure if > > your > > > story about the wasp stings was true or specifically written as an > > > entertaining piece, glad you are OK though. We have a lot of > > mosquitoes here > > > and are getting bitten quite a bit, nowhere near as bad as a wasp > > sting > > > though, just itchy and red. > > > > > > Why does your name mean " of leather trousers/shorts " (or something > > similar), > > > now that is not a very vegan-sounding name is it?! > > > > > > You should consider changing it to " von loricahosen " or something > > like that, > > > I think! > > > > > > My husband read a science fiction book once, Riverworld, by Philip > > Jose > > > Farmer, where some aliens created a world and brought back to life > > all who > > > had lived before to give them a chance at being immortal, like the > > idea from > > > that science book you read. > > > > > > I noticed I had made a possible mistake the other day, bought a > > Robinson's > > > Apple and Blackcurrant concentrate and after we drunk it nearly all > > (it was > > > for the kids mostly), my husband noticed it had vitamin D added > > which is > > > most likely not vegan, so beware of Robinson's drinks, I'd never > > noticed > > > they added vitamin D before as I don't usually get their drinks. > > Won't do it > > > again, I assumed all soft drinks of this type were vegan unless > > they had > > > E120 in them or were an orange drink containing beta-carotene which > > is > > > sometimes processed using gelatine. Just this one time I didn't > > read the > > > label clearly. > > > > > > Lesley > > > > > > > > > bruno_von_lederhosen [bruno_von_lederhosen] > > > 15 August 2002 10:49 > > > > > > An Apology to Anti-PETA > > > > > > > > > , " cav2was7 " <geraldine.mccarthy@n...> > > wrote: > > > > Hi Bruno, > > > > I hope you are well recovered from you wasp stings!!!! > > > > > > Thank you for your kind > > > thought Geraldine! )/ > > > > > > I'm pretty well recovered! > > > > > > But first ... I'd like to publicly > > > apologize to the Anti-PETA > > > club for reposting my > > > wasp story on their club page. > > > > > > Anti-PETA/ > > > > > > and for calling them nasty, > > > vile-puffy, meatatarian > > > servants of the evil one. > > > > > > I made fun of them. I'm > > > sorry. > > > > > > I hate hurting people. > > > > > > I shouldn't be mean just > > > because they're capturing > > > babies. > > > > > > And making them cry. > > > > > > And then stopping their > > > pulse and breath. And eating > > > them. > > > > > > After all, they're just > > > following the Food Chain. > > > > > > And who knows? They might > > > have a good reason. > > > > > > Maybe their dog is telling > > > them to eat babies over > > > their car radio. > > > > > > But some day those who > > > love God's voice will stand, > > > and all gravy spoons will be > > > dashed against the rocks. > > > > > > Angels in heaven will dance > > > at the clang. > > > > > > All turkey knives will drop on > > > the turkey carver's knee. > > > > > > The last Thanksgiving will > > > be renamed Band-aid Day. > > > > > > Grandmother will kneel in > > > several drops of turkey blood > > > and will apologize to the young > > > one she has killed. > > > > > > And then the trumpet will > > > sound and all cheese patties > > > will slip out of the bun and > > > back onto the cow. > > > > > > I believe this. > > > > > > I really do. > > > > > > It's the only thing that > > > makes sense. > > > > > > I read in a science book, The > > > Physics of Immortality, that > > > in a trillion years or so, life > > > will control the entire universe. > > > > > > And we will then be able to > > > recreate everthing that lived > > > in the past or possibly lived and > > > make them be happy this time. > > > > > > It makes sense. > > > > > > I'd work for that. > > > > > > I'll work for happiness, and > > > lots of others will to, forever > > > and ever and ever. > > > > > > I'm sure of it. > > > > > > I'm happy today too!! > > > > > > > > > ------------------ > > > bruno_von_lederhosen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2002 Report Share Posted August 18, 2002 thats why we are all here nikki, to learn and support each other... and, to flirt with peter *winks* fraggle " nikki_mackovitch " <nikkimack wrote: >Thx fraggle! > >You see, I am learning something everyday! > >nikki <glad fer this groups support> > >, EBbrewpunx@c... wrote: >> it depends >> some can be from animal source, D3 can come from pigs... >> some is vegetarian..you have to read labels and ask >> >> fraggle >> >> " Lesley Dove " <Lesley@v...> wrote: >> >> > >> >Most added vitamin D is derived from lanolin, I believe. >> >Some specifically vegan products do contain vegan vitamin D and >are labelled >> >as such. >> >There is D2 and D3, here is the Vegan Society page on vitamin D, >it explains >> >which is which, but most companies adding vit D do not state on >the label if >> >it is D2 or D3, and mostly it is in fact the animal derived D3, eg >in many >> >of Kelloggs and other breakfast cereals in the UK. A lot of >products say >> >that they are vegetarian and yet contain D3, which is of course >inaccurate >> >labelling since it could come from wool obtained as a slaughter by >product, >> >so is not even truly vegetarian as well as not being vegan. >> > >> >http://www.vegansociety.com/html/info/info17.html >> > >> >Lesley >> > >> > >> > >> > nikki_mackovitch [nikkimack@m...] >> > 16 August 2002 11:25 >> > >> > Re: An Apology to Anti-PETA >> > >> > >> > Lesley and all, >> > >> > Being still somewhat new to this, please tell me about " added >Vitamin >> > D " . I am assuming when added it derives from an animal source >from >> > your post, but don't know anything about it. >> > >> > Thx fer the heads up! >> > >> > nikki >> > >> > >> > >> > , " Lesley Dove " <Lesley@v...> wrote: >> > > >> > > I love your messages Bruno, you have a real gift! I wasn't >sure if >> > your >> > > story about the wasp stings was true or specifically written >as an >> > > entertaining piece, glad you are OK though. We have a lot of >> > mosquitoes here >> > > and are getting bitten quite a bit, nowhere near as bad as a >wasp >> > sting >> > > though, just itchy and red. >> > > >> > > Why does your name mean " of leather trousers/shorts " (or >something >> > similar), >> > > now that is not a very vegan-sounding name is it?! >> > > >> > > You should consider changing it to " von loricahosen " or >something >> > like that, >> > > I think! >> > > >> > > My husband read a science fiction book once, Riverworld, by >Philip >> > Jose >> > > Farmer, where some aliens created a world and brought back to >life >> > all who >> > > had lived before to give them a chance at being immortal, like >the >> > idea from >> > > that science book you read. >> > > >> > > I noticed I had made a possible mistake the other day, bought a >> > Robinson's >> > > Apple and Blackcurrant concentrate and after we drunk it >nearly all >> > (it was >> > > for the kids mostly), my husband noticed it had vitamin D added >> > which is >> > > most likely not vegan, so beware of Robinson's drinks, I'd >never >> > noticed >> > > they added vitamin D before as I don't usually get their >drinks. >> > Won't do it >> > > again, I assumed all soft drinks of this type were vegan unless >> > they had >> > > E120 in them or were an orange drink containing beta-carotene >which >> > is >> > > sometimes processed using gelatine. Just this one time I didn't >> > read the >> > > label clearly. >> > > >> > > Lesley >> > > >> > > >> > > bruno_von_lederhosen [bruno_von_lederhosen] >> > > 15 August 2002 10:49 >> > > >> > > An Apology to Anti-PETA >> > > >> > > >> > > , " cav2was7 " <geraldine.mccarthy@n...> >> > wrote: >> > > > Hi Bruno, >> > > > I hope you are well recovered from you wasp stings!!!! >> > > >> > > Thank you for your kind >> > > thought Geraldine! )/ >> > > >> > > I'm pretty well recovered! >> > > >> > > But first ... I'd like to publicly >> > > apologize to the Anti-PETA >> > > club for reposting my >> > > wasp story on their club page. >> > > >> > > Anti-PETA/ >> > > >> > > and for calling them nasty, >> > > vile-puffy, meatatarian >> > > servants of the evil one. >> > > >> > > I made fun of them. I'm >> > > sorry. >> > > >> > > I hate hurting people. >> > > >> > > I shouldn't be mean just >> > > because they're capturing >> > > babies. >> > > >> > > And making them cry. >> > > >> > > And then stopping their >> > > pulse and breath. And eating >> > > them. >> > > >> > > After all, they're just >> > > following the Food Chain. >> > > >> > > And who knows? They might >> > > have a good reason. >> > > >> > > Maybe their dog is telling >> > > them to eat babies over >> > > their car radio. >> > > >> > > But some day those who >> > > love God's voice will stand, >> > > and all gravy spoons will be >> > > dashed against the rocks. >> > > >> > > Angels in heaven will dance >> > > at the clang. >> > > >> > > All turkey knives will drop on >> > > the turkey carver's knee. >> > > >> > > The last Thanksgiving will >> > > be renamed Band-aid Day. >> > > >> > > Grandmother will kneel in >> > > several drops of turkey blood >> > > and will apologize to the young >> > > one she has killed. >> > > >> > > And then the trumpet will >> > > sound and all cheese patties >> > > will slip out of the bun and >> > > back onto the cow. >> > > >> > > I believe this. >> > > >> > > I really do. >> > > >> > > It's the only thing that >> > > makes sense. >> > > >> > > I read in a science book, The >> > > Physics of Immortality, that >> > > in a trillion years or so, life >> > > will control the entire universe. >> > > >> > > And we will then be able to >> > > recreate everthing that lived >> > > in the past or possibly lived and >> > > make them be happy this time. >> > > >> > > It makes sense. >> > > >> > > I'd work for that. >> > > >> > > I'll work for happiness, and >> > > lots of others will to, forever >> > > and ever and ever. >> > > >> > > I'm sure of it. >> > > >> > > I'm happy today too!! >> > > >> > > >> > > ------------------ >> > > bruno_von_lederhosen >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2002 Report Share Posted August 18, 2002 Hi Fraggle > thats why we are all here nikki, to learn and support each other... > and, to flirt with peter And you know you haven't been flirting with me anywhere near enough lately, Fraggle :-) BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release 02/08/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2002 Report Share Posted August 19, 2002 Peter eh? hi Peter nikki , EBbrewpunx@c... wrote: > thats why we are all here nikki, to learn and support each other... > and, to flirt with peter > *winks* > fraggle > > > " nikki_mackovitch " <nikkimack@m...> wrote: > > >Thx fraggle! > > > >You see, I am learning something everyday! > > > >nikki <glad fer this groups support> > > > >, EBbrewpunx@c... wrote: > >> it depends > >> some can be from animal source, D3 can come from pigs... > >> some is vegetarian..you have to read labels and ask > >> > >> fraggle > >> > >> " Lesley Dove " <Lesley@v...> wrote: > >> > >> > > >> >Most added vitamin D is derived from lanolin, I believe. > >> >Some specifically vegan products do contain vegan vitamin D and > >are labelled > >> >as such. > >> >There is D2 and D3, here is the Vegan Society page on vitamin D, > >it explains > >> >which is which, but most companies adding vit D do not state on > >the label if > >> >it is D2 or D3, and mostly it is in fact the animal derived D3, eg > >in many > >> >of Kelloggs and other breakfast cereals in the UK. A lot of > >products say > >> >that they are vegetarian and yet contain D3, which is of course > >inaccurate > >> >labelling since it could come from wool obtained as a slaughter by > >product, > >> >so is not even truly vegetarian as well as not being vegan. > >> > > >> >http://www.vegansociety.com/html/info/info17.html > >> > > >> >Lesley > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > nikki_mackovitch [nikkimack@m...] > >> > 16 August 2002 11:25 > >> > > >> > Re: An Apology to Anti-PETA > >> > > >> > > >> > Lesley and all, > >> > > >> > Being still somewhat new to this, please tell me about " added > >Vitamin > >> > D " . I am assuming when added it derives from an animal source > >from > >> > your post, but don't know anything about it. > >> > > >> > Thx fer the heads up! > >> > > >> > nikki > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > , " Lesley Dove " <Lesley@v...> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > I love your messages Bruno, you have a real gift! I wasn't > >sure if > >> > your > >> > > story about the wasp stings was true or specifically written > >as an > >> > > entertaining piece, glad you are OK though. We have a lot of > >> > mosquitoes here > >> > > and are getting bitten quite a bit, nowhere near as bad as a > >wasp > >> > sting > >> > > though, just itchy and red. > >> > > > >> > > Why does your name mean " of leather trousers/shorts " (or > >something > >> > similar), > >> > > now that is not a very vegan-sounding name is it?! > >> > > > >> > > You should consider changing it to " von loricahosen " or > >something > >> > like that, > >> > > I think! > >> > > > >> > > My husband read a science fiction book once, Riverworld, by > >Philip > >> > Jose > >> > > Farmer, where some aliens created a world and brought back to > >life > >> > all who > >> > > had lived before to give them a chance at being immortal, like > >the > >> > idea from > >> > > that science book you read. > >> > > > >> > > I noticed I had made a possible mistake the other day, bought a > >> > Robinson's > >> > > Apple and Blackcurrant concentrate and after we drunk it > >nearly all > >> > (it was > >> > > for the kids mostly), my husband noticed it had vitamin D added > >> > which is > >> > > most likely not vegan, so beware of Robinson's drinks, I'd > >never > >> > noticed > >> > > they added vitamin D before as I don't usually get their > >drinks. > >> > Won't do it > >> > > again, I assumed all soft drinks of this type were vegan unless > >> > they had > >> > > E120 in them or were an orange drink containing beta- carotene > >which > >> > is > >> > > sometimes processed using gelatine. Just this one time I didn't > >> > read the > >> > > label clearly. > >> > > > >> > > Lesley > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > bruno_von_lederhosen [bruno_von_lederhosen] > >> > > 15 August 2002 10:49 > >> > > > >> > > An Apology to Anti-PETA > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > , " cav2was7 " <geraldine.mccarthy@n...> > >> > wrote: > >> > > > Hi Bruno, > >> > > > I hope you are well recovered from you wasp stings!!!! > >> > > > >> > > Thank you for your kind > >> > > thought Geraldine! )/ > >> > > > >> > > I'm pretty well recovered! > >> > > > >> > > But first ... I'd like to publicly > >> > > apologize to the Anti-PETA > >> > > club for reposting my > >> > > wasp story on their club page. > >> > > > >> > > Anti-PETA/ > >> > > > >> > > and for calling them nasty, > >> > > vile-puffy, meatatarian > >> > > servants of the evil one. > >> > > > >> > > I made fun of them. I'm > >> > > sorry. > >> > > > >> > > I hate hurting people. > >> > > > >> > > I shouldn't be mean just > >> > > because they're capturing > >> > > babies. > >> > > > >> > > And making them cry. > >> > > > >> > > And then stopping their > >> > > pulse and breath. And eating > >> > > them. > >> > > > >> > > After all, they're just > >> > > following the Food Chain. > >> > > > >> > > And who knows? They might > >> > > have a good reason. > >> > > > >> > > Maybe their dog is telling > >> > > them to eat babies over > >> > > their car radio. > >> > > > >> > > But some day those who > >> > > love God's voice will stand, > >> > > and all gravy spoons will be > >> > > dashed against the rocks. > >> > > > >> > > Angels in heaven will dance > >> > > at the clang. > >> > > > >> > > All turkey knives will drop on > >> > > the turkey carver's knee. > >> > > > >> > > The last Thanksgiving will > >> > > be renamed Band-aid Day. > >> > > > >> > > Grandmother will kneel in > >> > > several drops of turkey blood > >> > > and will apologize to the young > >> > > one she has killed. > >> > > > >> > > And then the trumpet will > >> > > sound and all cheese patties > >> > > will slip out of the bun and > >> > > back onto the cow. > >> > > > >> > > I believe this. > >> > > > >> > > I really do. > >> > > > >> > > It's the only thing that > >> > > makes sense. > >> > > > >> > > I read in a science book, The > >> > > Physics of Immortality, that > >> > > in a trillion years or so, life > >> > > will control the entire universe. > >> > > > >> > > And we will then be able to > >> > > recreate everthing that lived > >> > > in the past or possibly lived and > >> > > make them be happy this time. > >> > > > >> > > It makes sense. > >> > > > >> > > I'd work for that. > >> > > > >> > > I'll work for happiness, and > >> > > lots of others will to, forever > >> > > and ever and ever. > >> > > > >> > > I'm sure of it. > >> > > > >> > > I'm happy today too!! > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > ------------------ > >> > > bruno_von_lederhosen > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2002 Report Share Posted August 20, 2002 sorry peter i joined a new gardening list, and it kjust takes up waaay tooo much of me internet time *hops in yer lap* hows it going sexy? hahahahhahahaha i bet you can make a mean tofu stir fry fraggle " Peter " <Snowbow wrote: >Hi Fraggle > >> thats why we are all here nikki, to learn and support each other... >> and, to flirt with peter > >And you know you haven't been flirting with me anywhere near enough lately, >Fraggle :-) > >BB >Peter > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release 02/08/02 > > > >To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2002 Report Share Posted August 20, 2002 Hi Fraggle > sorry peter > i joined a new gardening list, and it kjust takes up waaay tooo much of me internet time What - you prefer gardening to flirting with me - I'm flabberghasted! > *hops in yer lap* > hows it going sexy? > hahahahhahahaha > i bet you can make a mean tofu stir fry I don't think I've ever met a mean tofu, but if I did, I'd probably try to make it stir fry - it seems the only sensible course of action!!! But then they do say " you can take a mean tofu to water, but you can't make it stir fry " . BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release 02/08/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2002 Report Share Posted August 22, 2002 one down 6 billion to go.... come to the light..there is peace and serenity in the light.... fraggle el presidente mucho grande " nikki_mackovitch " <nikkimack wrote: >EEEEeeekkkkk! > >Someone help me! >I'm in the US!!! > >No NO NO!!!! >this cannot happen, >we must stop him! >we must, we must..... > >fraggle is our ruler ><blank stare> >fraggle is always right ><starts humming> >must follow fraggle and the pretty bright light....... > >was nikki - now tofuchild > >, EBbrewpunx@c... wrote: >> >> pheh >> and i thought he liked me >> nefarious english blokes.... >> >> but, nice try ...yer plan is damned to failure, just from the >simple fact that i live in america >> and >> we are never wrong >> we rule the world >> >> now, all i need to do is become dictator of the US, and the rest of >the world will follow.. >> fraggle >> *wrings paws together in maniacal glee* >> >> >> " Peter " <Snowbow@b...> wrote: >> >> >Hi Fraggle >> > >> >> oh sure..distract me with a light >> >> it will never work you cad....the world is mine, mine do you >hear!!!! >> >> yer just angry cuz i want to flirt with graham >> >> now, where did that light go?? >> > >> >But what you don't realise is that Graham is part II of my evil >scheme!!! >> > >> >Just keep your eye on that light! >> > >> >BB >> >Peter >> > >> > >> >--- >> >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >> >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >> >Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release 02/08/02 >> > >> > >> > >> >To send an email to - >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2002 Report Share Posted August 22, 2002 ah....I think I may need to follow the light.... Hannah EBbrewpunx 8/22/2002 12:39 PM RE: Re: An Apology to Anti-PETA one down 6 billion to go.... come to the light..there is peace and serenity in the light.... fraggle el presidente mucho grande " nikki_mackovitch " <nikkimack wrote: >EEEEeeekkkkk! > >Someone help me! >I'm in the US!!! > >No NO NO!!!! >this cannot happen, >we must stop him! >we must, we must..... > >fraggle is our ruler ><blank stare> >fraggle is always right ><starts humming> >must follow fraggle and the pretty bright light....... > >was nikki - now tofuchild > >, EBbrewpunx@c... wrote: >> >> pheh >> and i thought he liked me >> nefarious english blokes.... >> >> but, nice try ...yer plan is damned to failure, just from the >simple fact that i live in america >> and >> we are never wrong >> we rule the world >> >> now, all i need to do is become dictator of the US, and the rest of >the world will follow.. >> fraggle >> *wrings paws together in maniacal glee* >> >> >> " Peter " <Snowbow@b...> wrote: >> >> >Hi Fraggle >> > >> >> oh sure..distract me with a light >> >> it will never work you cad....the world is mine, mine do you >hear!!!! >> >> yer just angry cuz i want to flirt with graham >> >> now, where did that light go?? >> > >> >But what you don't realise is that Graham is part II of my evil >scheme!!! >> > >> >Just keep your eye on that light! >> > >> >BB >> >Peter >> > >> > >> >--- >> >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >> >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >> >Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release 02/08/02 >> > >> > >> > >> >To send an email to - >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2002 Report Share Posted August 22, 2002 Hi Fraggle > but, nice try ...yer plan is damned to failure, just from the simple fact that i live in america > and > we are never wrong > we rule the world I'm pleased you believe this to be the case. It makes everything so much easier. :-) BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release 02/08/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2002 Report Share Posted August 22, 2002 Hi Nikki > oh shoot! It's just as well I'm not too fast on the trigger - that could have been disasterous! :-) BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release 02/08/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2002 Report Share Posted August 22, 2002 Hi Nikki / Tofuchild!! > fraggle is our ruler > <blank stare> > fraggle is always right > <starts humming> > must follow fraggle and the pretty bright light....... Y'see - it's not at all painful, life can be nice and easy when you follow the light. Come on everyone, follow the pretty bright light and all your troubles will be in the past :-) BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release 02/08/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2002 Report Share Posted August 23, 2002 Good Morning Peter! LoL Hmmm..... now which way shall I take this? nikki , " Peter " <Snowbow@b...> wrote: > Hi Nikki > > > oh shoot! > > It's just as well I'm not too fast on the trigger - that could have been > disasterous! :-) > > BB > Peter > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release 02/08/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2002 Report Share Posted August 23, 2002 Oh uh! EVERYBODY RUN! They've joined forces!!! We are doomed fer sure! Oh lemonade and cookies nikki , " Peter " <Snowbow@b...> wrote: > Hi Nikki / Tofuchild!! > > > fraggle is our ruler > > <blank stare> > > fraggle is always right > > <starts humming> > > must follow fraggle and the pretty bright light....... > > Y'see - it's not at all painful, life can be nice and easy when you follow > the light. Come on everyone, follow the pretty bright light and all your > troubles will be in the past :-) > > BB > Peter > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release 02/08/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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