Guest guest Posted August 20, 2002 Report Share Posted August 20, 2002 What is ESP? I see the people get itchy so instead of going quite cynical, go to the page of http://adbusters.org/spoofads/alcohol/ and http://adbusters.org/spoofads/tobacco/ try no to be small minded think big, Oh just one little beer, just one little cigarette, just a little bit of egg yolk, just a little bit of dairy...kills nobody surely... we all lived till now... Forgivness, I ment for your ignorance ! Good night From Spanish faN (ATIC) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2002 Report Share Posted August 20, 2002 > Oh just one little beer, Is it your round, great, mines an ESB (Fullers Brewery) cheers. Still awaiting your vegan forgiveness... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2002 Report Share Posted August 20, 2002 extra sensory perception mind reading basically.... " ibizkus " <ibyza2001 wrote: >What is ESP? >I see the people get itchy so instead of going quite cynical, go to >the page of http://adbusters.org/spoofads/alcohol/ >and http://adbusters.org/spoofads/tobacco/ >try no to be small minded think big, >Oh just one little beer, just one little cigarette, >just a little bit of egg yolk, just a little bit of dairy...kills >nobody surely... we all lived till now... >Forgivness, I ment for your ignorance ! >Good night >From Spanish faN (ATIC) > > > > >To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2002 Report Share Posted August 20, 2002 oh come on graham...at least have one of those nummy organic beers...like caledonia, er sam smiths organic.... fraggle " quercusrobur2002 " <grahamburnett wrote: >> Oh just one little beer, > >Is it your round, great, mines an ESB (Fullers Brewery) > >cheers. > >Still awaiting your vegan forgiveness... > > > >To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2002 Report Share Posted August 20, 2002 Well, if you're twisting my arm, don't mind if I do old boy... (must admit I find ESB a bit heavy anyway...) Cheers! , EBbrewpunx@c... wrote: > > oh come on graham...at least have one of those nummy organic beers...like caledonia, er sam smiths organic.... > > fraggle > > " quercusrobur2002 " <grahamburnett@b...> wrote: > > >> Oh just one little beer, > > > >Is it your round, great, mines an ESB (Fullers Brewery) > > > >cheers. > > > >Still awaiting your vegan forgiveness... > > > > > > > >To send an email to - > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2002 Report Share Posted August 20, 2002 there are a number of organic beers up in scotland gonna have to take a trip up there some day... and there must be a few in merry ol england as well, correct? besides sam smiths.... ESB is ok, not my fave tho cheers fraggle " quercusrobur2002 " <grahamburnett wrote: >Well, if you're twisting my arm, don't mind if I do old boy... > >(must admit I find ESB a bit heavy anyway...) > >Cheers! > >, EBbrewpunx@c... wrote: >> >> oh come on graham...at least have one of those nummy organic >beers...like caledonia, er sam smiths organic.... >> >> fraggle >> >> " quercusrobur2002 " <grahamburnett@b...> wrote: >> >> >> Oh just one little beer, >> > >> >Is it your round, great, mines an ESB (Fullers Brewery) >> > >> >cheers. >> > >> >Still awaiting your vegan forgiveness... >> > >> > >> > >> >To send an email to - >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2002 Report Share Posted August 20, 2002 Indeed- also the organic beers have a tendecy to be vegan as well. There's a co-op store round the corner from me that stocks their own brand organic ale which is labeled as being both organic and vegan, also for a premium bottled ale it's very reasonably priced at £1.59 a bottle (normally quality bottled ales retail at upwrds of £1.79 a bottle)... and it's only five minutes walk from where i live- and they do hungarian wines at £2.99 a bottle which is labelled as vegan, also they often do a 'two for a fiver'offer on the vegan wine, which is a great 'his & hers' deal as my partner prefers white whilst I go for red. Unfortunately not organic tho :-( Tonight however I have mostly been drinking Youngs 'Acclaim', not organic AFAIK but as it says on the label, 'refreshingly different'... Cheers Graham , EBbrewpunx@c... wrote: > > there are a number of organic beers up in scotland > gonna have to take a trip up there some day... > and there must be a few in merry ol england as well, correct? > besides sam smiths.... > ESB is ok, not my fave tho > cheers > fraggle > > " quercusrobur2002 " <grahamburnett@b...> wrote: > > >Well, if you're twisting my arm, don't mind if I do old boy... > > > >(must admit I find ESB a bit heavy anyway...) > > > >Cheers! > > > >, EBbrewpunx@c... wrote: > >> > >> oh come on graham...at least have one of those nummy organic > >beers...like caledonia, er sam smiths organic.... > >> > >> fraggle > >> > >> " quercusrobur2002 " <grahamburnett@b...> wrote: > >> > >> >> Oh just one little beer, > >> > > >> >Is it your round, great, mines an ESB (Fullers Brewery) > >> > > >> >cheers. > >> > > >> >Still awaiting your vegan forgiveness... > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >To send an email to - > >> > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2002 Report Share Posted August 20, 2002 is youngs vegan? i ferget there was new beer from england i saw in the market, and i wanted to buy it, but, i didn't know if it was vegan er not, and fer the life of me i can't remember its name now..i think it was a fullers er youngs brand...weird name, began with a " w " i believe here in california, to be organic, it couldn't have fish bladder in it, cuz, well...i don't think there is a market fer organic fish bladder yet.... like i've said, its easier to avoid isinglas here in the states, since it is soooo rarely used.... cheers fraggle " quercusrobur2002 " <grahamburnett wrote: >Indeed- also the organic beers have a tendecy to be vegan as well. > >There's a co-op store round the corner from me that stocks their own >brand organic ale which is labeled as being both organic and vegan, >also for a premium bottled ale it's very reasonably priced at £1.59 >a bottle (normally quality bottled ales retail at upwrds of £1.79 a >bottle)... and it's only five minutes walk from where i live- and >they do hungarian wines at £2.99 a bottle which is labelled as >vegan, also they often do a 'two for a fiver'offer on the vegan >wine, which is a great 'his & hers' deal as my partner prefers white >whilst I go for red. Unfortunately not organic tho :-( > >Tonight however I have mostly been drinking Youngs 'Acclaim', not >organic AFAIK but as it says on the label, 'refreshingly >different'... > >Cheers Graham > >, EBbrewpunx@c... wrote: >> >> there are a number of organic beers up in scotland >> gonna have to take a trip up there some day... >> and there must be a few in merry ol england as well, correct? >> besides sam smiths.... >> ESB is ok, not my fave tho >> cheers >> fraggle >> >> " quercusrobur2002 " <grahamburnett@b...> wrote: >> >> >Well, if you're twisting my arm, don't mind if I do old boy... >> > >> >(must admit I find ESB a bit heavy anyway...) >> > >> >Cheers! >> > >> >, EBbrewpunx@c... wrote: >> >> >> >> oh come on graham...at least have one of those nummy organic >> >beers...like caledonia, er sam smiths organic.... >> >> >> >> fraggle >> >> >> >> " quercusrobur2002 " <grahamburnett@b...> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Oh just one little beer, >> >> > >> >> >Is it your round, great, mines an ESB (Fullers Brewery) >> >> > >> >> >cheers. >> >> > >> >> >Still awaiting your vegan forgiveness... >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >To send an email to - >> >> > >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2002 Report Share Posted August 20, 2002 , EBbrewpunx@c... wrote: > is youngs vegan? i ferget Well it doesn't say it's not... :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2002 Report Share Posted August 20, 2002 , " Viv " <vc27@n...> wrote: > Might be a 5 minute walk but how long does it take to stagger? Well how would I know? ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2002 Report Share Posted August 20, 2002 but you probably don't mind the walk home, if you remember it.... " Viv " <vc27 wrote: >Might be a 5 minute walk but how long does it take to stagger? My local does >live music till about 1am, always takes longer to get home than to get >there... > > > > quercusrobur2002 [grahamburnett] > Tuesday, August 20, 2002 12:42 AM > > Re: ESP ? > > > Indeed- also the organic beers have a tendecy to be vegan as well. > > There's a co-op store round the corner from me that stocks their own > brand organic ale which is labeled as being both organic and vegan, > also for a premium bottled ale it's very reasonably priced at £1.59 > a bottle (normally quality bottled ales retail at upwrds of £1.79 a > bottle)... and it's only five minutes walk from where i live- and > they do hungarian wines at £2.99 a bottle which is labelled as > vegan, also they often do a 'two for a fiver'offer on the vegan > wine, which is a great 'his & hers' deal as my partner prefers white > whilst I go for red. Unfortunately not organic tho :-( > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release 02/08/02 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2002 Report Share Posted August 20, 2002 If you are staggering home drunk you could fall in the road and get killed by a car, it's dangerous for you, that is one reason not to get drunk but to only have one or two alcoholic drinks, not enough to be pissed, or stay teetotal even, and drink soft drinks only. Think what the safe level is, and remember it is lower for a woman than for a man. If we ever wanted to stay out until so well past midnight, and could get a babysitter for 3 kids (impossible since having our third) we would probably not turn into pumpkins, but would most likely have the babysitter taking out a contract on us Never mind we will definitely make up for lost time and go out more when the kids are older, but I do really miss a good evening out, even though I was never much of a drinker and avoid smoky places (most pubs). I found I could always have fun while staying sober. I'm not anti-drink but I don't understand why so many people think booze is needed for a good evening out, it's not compulsory you know! Lesley Viv [vc27]20 August 2002 00:54 Subject: RE: Re: ESP ? Might be a 5 minute walk but how long does it take to stagger? My local does live music till about 1am, always takes longer to get home than to get there... quercusrobur2002 [grahamburnett]Tuesday, August 20, 2002 12:42 AM Subject: Re: ESP ?Indeed- also the organic beers have a tendecy to be vegan as well. There's a co-op store round the corner from me that stocks their own brand organic ale which is labeled as being both organic and vegan, also for a premium bottled ale it's very reasonably priced at £1.59 a bottle (normally quality bottled ales retail at upwrds of £1.79 a bottle)... and it's only five minutes walk from where i live- and they do hungarian wines at £2.99 a bottle which is labelled as vegan, also they often do a 'two for a fiver'offer on the vegan wine, which is a great 'his & hers' deal as my partner prefers white whilst I go for red. Unfortunately not organic tho :-(To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2002 Report Share Posted August 20, 2002 , " Lesley Dove " <Lesley@v...> wrote: > I'm not > anti-drink but I don't understand why so many people think booze is needed > for a good evening out, it's not compulsory you know! > > Lesley I rarely if ever drink outside my home. I don't like mixing socially, dislike pubs, hate cinemas and wouldn't be hauled into a club by wild Fraggles. So the only time I ever go out is to musical events and I never drink at them. I thoroughly enjoy a couple of beers of an evening after work, or half a bottle (or so) of wine. I do get a bit drunk on these, but would hardly say that I stagger. Sometimes I go over the top and finish the bottle of wine and then I would definitely have to classify myself as pissed, but what the hell, I enjoy it, it harms nobody but myself (possibly) and I'm not answerable to anyone. If I have to drive I don't take so much as a sniff, ever, full stop. I know that alcohol can cause dreadful damage to families, but I am rather of the opinion that if someone is going to get drunk and beat someone up, they would probably have done the beating anyway sooner or later. Cathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2002 Report Share Posted August 20, 2002 That sounds pretty responsible, but only if you try to stick within the safe amount, I think it's 14 units a week for women, a pity so many people are not responsible at all with their drinking, I'm pretty sure my attacker and her friend were on the way to and/or from the local pub. I would like more opportunity to get out, but not to get drunk, it simply does not appeal to me, doesn't feel nice to me at all. I did used to enjoy going out as a group with London Vegans and miss that time in my life, I was always the sociable type, believe it or not, you can be the sober type and still enjoy life, for me almost always abstaining from drink does not equate to not enjoying life, but I don't hate pubs per se, it's just the smoke I hate. I happen to believe there would be plenty of call for a chain of completely smoke-free pubs if someone would take the initiative and start one. They would also attract a better class of person (people like Dr Ian), not the unstable and dangerous types who will punch someone just for saying something they don't agree with. They should not be out in public. And I have certainly never punched anyone in the face for smoking! I totally agree that drinking and driving is unacceptable. Lesley cathyjupp [cj]20 August 2002 11:12 Subject: Re: ESP ?, "Lesley Dove" <Lesley@v...> wrote:> I'm not> anti-drink but I don't understand why so many people think booze is needed> for a good evening out, it's not compulsory you know!> > LesleyI rarely if ever drink outside my home. I don't like mixing socially, dislike pubs, hate cinemas and wouldn't be hauled into a club by wild Fraggles. So the only time I ever go out is to musical events and I never drink at them. I thoroughly enjoy a couple of beers of an evening after work, or half a bottle (or so) of wine. I do get a bit drunk on these, but would hardly say that I stagger. Sometimes I go over the top and finish the bottle of wine and then I would definitely have to classify myself as pissed, but what the hell, I enjoy it, it harms nobody but myself (possibly) and I'm not answerable to anyone. If I have to drive I don't take so much as a sniff, ever, full stop. I know that alcohol can cause dreadful damage to families, but I am rather of the opinion that if someone is going to get drunk and beat someone up, they would probably have done the beating anyway sooner or later. CathyTo send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2002 Report Share Posted August 20, 2002 hmmm i don't know whether i should be offended er not i'll take the er not.. and, all the wild fraggles are no more..the mass migrations and leaping off of cliff faces into the pacific are no more...a thing of the past... :*( fraggle " cathyjupp " <cj wrote: >, " Lesley Dove " <Lesley@v...> wrote: >> > > >I'm not >> anti-drink but I don't understand why so many people think booze is >needed >> for a good evening out, it's not compulsory you know! >> >> Lesley > > >I rarely if ever drink outside my home. I don't like mixing >socially, dislike pubs, hate cinemas and wouldn't be hauled into a >club by wild Fraggles. So the only time I ever go out is to musical >events and I never drink at them. I thoroughly enjoy a couple of >beers of an evening after work, or half a bottle (or so) of wine. I >do get a bit drunk on these, but would hardly say that I stagger. >Sometimes I go over the top and finish the bottle of wine and then I >would definitely have to classify myself as pissed, but what the >hell, I enjoy it, it harms nobody but myself (possibly) and I'm not >answerable to anyone. If I have to drive I don't take so much as a >sniff, ever, full stop. > >I know that alcohol can cause dreadful damage to families, but I am >rather of the opinion that if someone is going to get drunk and beat >someone up, they would probably have done the beating anyway sooner >or later. > >Cathy > > > >To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2002 Report Share Posted August 20, 2002 then invite people over yer house go to the movies, start yer own resturant er place where folks can't smoke... there must be a million things to do that don't involve smoking....if it bugs you, go elsewhere, make yer own place...... sound good?? " Lesley Dove " <Lesley wrote: > >That sounds pretty responsible, but only if you try to stick within the safe >amount, I think it's 14 units a week for women, a pity so many people are >not responsible at all with their drinking, I'm pretty sure my attacker and >her friend were on the way to and/or from the local pub. >I would like more opportunity to get out, but not to get drunk, it simply >does not appeal to me, doesn't feel nice to me at all. I did used to enjoy >going out as a group with London Vegans and miss that time in my life, I was >always the sociable type, believe it or not, you can be the sober type and >still enjoy life, for me almost always abstaining from drink does not equate >to not enjoying life, but I don't hate pubs per se, it's just the smoke I >hate. I happen to believe there would be plenty of call for a chain of >completely smoke-free pubs if someone would take the initiative and start >one. They would also attract a better class of person (people like Dr Ian), >not the unstable and dangerous types who will punch someone just for saying >something they don't agree with. They should not be out in public. And I >have certainly never punched anyone in the face for smoking! >I totally agree that drinking and driving is unacceptable. > >Lesley > > > cathyjupp [cj] > 20 August 2002 11:12 > > Re: ESP ? > > > , " Lesley Dove " <Lesley@v...> wrote: > > > > > I'm not > > anti-drink but I don't understand why so many people think booze is > needed > > for a good evening out, it's not compulsory you know! > > > > Lesley > > > I rarely if ever drink outside my home. I don't like mixing > socially, dislike pubs, hate cinemas and wouldn't be hauled into a > club by wild Fraggles. So the only time I ever go out is to musical > events and I never drink at them. I thoroughly enjoy a couple of > beers of an evening after work, or half a bottle (or so) of wine. I > do get a bit drunk on these, but would hardly say that I stagger. > Sometimes I go over the top and finish the bottle of wine and then I > would definitely have to classify myself as pissed, but what the > hell, I enjoy it, it harms nobody but myself (possibly) and I'm not > answerable to anyone. If I have to drive I don't take so much as a > sniff, ever, full stop. > > I know that alcohol can cause dreadful damage to families, but I am > rather of the opinion that if someone is going to get drunk and beat > someone up, they would probably have done the beating anyway sooner > or later. > > Cathy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2002 Report Share Posted August 20, 2002 , EBbrewpunx@c... wrote: > hmmm > i don't know whether i should be offended er not > i'll take the er not.. > and, all the wild fraggles are no more..the mass migrations and leaping off of cliff faces into the pacific are no more...a thing of the past... > :*( > fraggle " Wild Fraggles " is a metaphor for strong, powerful beasties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2002 Report Share Posted August 20, 2002 Hi > What is ESP? Extra-Sensory Perception - Sixth sense would be another way of putting it! :-) BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release 02/08/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2002 Report Share Posted August 20, 2002 my wild kin must have been more rambunctuous and stronger obviously oh, how far i have fallen.... fraggle " cathyjupp " <cj wrote: >, EBbrewpunx@c... wrote: >> hmmm >> i don't know whether i should be offended er not >> i'll take the er not.. >> and, all the wild fraggles are no more..the mass migrations and >leaping off of cliff faces into the pacific are no more...a thing of >the past... >> :*( >> fraggle > > > > " Wild Fraggles " is a metaphor for strong, powerful beasties. > > > > > >To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2002 Report Share Posted August 20, 2002 Cathy My favourite outings are metal concerts - and no amount of smoke keeps me away! I come back reaking of it, right down to my underclothes. But it is such fun, so exciting. I wouldn't miss it just because of smoke. I like meeting friends in pubs, even though I don't drink alcohol. The only places I don't like are clubs, but that's cos the music(?????) drives me crazy. Jo > I rarely if ever drink outside my home. I don't like mixing > socially, dislike pubs, hate cinemas and wouldn't be hauled into a > club by wild Fraggles. So the only time I ever go out is to musical > events and I never drink at them. I thoroughly enjoy a couple of > beers of an evening after work, or half a bottle (or so) of wine. I > do get a bit drunk on these, but would hardly say that I stagger. > Sometimes I go over the top and finish the bottle of wine and then I > would definitely have to classify myself as pissed, but what the > hell, I enjoy it, it harms nobody but myself (possibly) and I'm not > answerable to anyone. If I have to drive I don't take so much as a > sniff, ever, full stop. > > I know that alcohol can cause dreadful damage to families, but I am > rather of the opinion that if someone is going to get drunk and beat > someone up, they would probably have done the beating anyway sooner > or later. > > Cathy > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2002 Report Share Posted August 20, 2002 Don't mind the walk there either... the anticipation! And no, don't often remember the walk home. EBbrewpunx [EBbrewpunx]Tuesday, August 20, 2002 12:58 AM Subject: RE: Re: ESP ?but you probably don't mind the walk home, if you remember it...."Viv" <vc27 wrote:>Might be a 5 minute walk but how long does it take to stagger? My local does>live music till about 1am, always takes longer to get home than to get>there...>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2002 Report Share Posted August 20, 2002 It's extremely dangerous I know but not as dangerous as coming home rat *rsed on the tube. And cars aren't the only danger either. It's not the alcohol i crave it's the danger ;-) Sometimes I stay sober but mostly not. Lesley Dove [Lesley]Tuesday, August 20, 2002 9:56 AM Subject: RE: Re: ESP ? If you are staggering home drunk you could fall in the road and get killed by a car, it's dangerous for you, that is one reason not to get drunk but to only have one or two alcoholic drinks, not enough to be pissed, or stay teetotal even, and drink soft drinks only. Think what the safe level is, and remember it is lower for a woman than for a man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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