Guest guest Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 This is zero-sum thinking and is ridiculous. Same as the sociopathic zero-sum game the rapacious capitalists play. They truly believe that for them to profit, others must lose. Hence the Haliburton / Big Oil Wars, etc. Far better to go for a win-win situation, which requires compromise, something the C3 NeoCons cannot abide. On Thursday, November 27, 2003, at 07:00 AM, wrote: > In order for something to become clean, > something else must become dirty. > ~ Imbesi's Law of Conservation of Filth > " I was off on that happy ride where you discover a new duchy of jazz every night and the drought of the past is given a rain of new sound. " --Norman Mailer, The Spooky Art, p.55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2003 Report Share Posted November 28, 2003 yes, i agree. ironically, much of this thinking is erroneously based upon utilitarian philosophy. and it's something that the utilitarian philosopher peter singer challenged. most of us are brainwashed into accepting this philosophy (particularly the altered lockeian version) even though few are formally schooled in its concepts. four words: think outside the box. The Stewarts <stews9 wrote:This is zero-sum thinking and is ridiculous. Same as the sociopathic zero-sum game the rapacious capitalists play. They truly believe that for them to profit, others must lose. Hence the Haliburton / Big Oil Wars, etc. Far better to go for a win-win situation, which requires compromise, something the C3 NeoCons cannot abide. On Thursday, November 27, 2003, at 07:00 AM, wrote: > In order for something to become clean, > something else must become dirty. > ~ Imbesi's Law of Conservation of Filth > " I was off on that happy ride where you discover a new duchy of jazz every night and the drought of the past is given a rain of new sound. " --Norman Mailer, The Spooky Art, p.55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2003 Report Share Posted November 29, 2003 Wow. I thought it was a fun quote. Guess it is all in your perspective, and mine being the domestic sort, I always notice how after I clean the kitchen I have dirty rags and then must wash them. So then I do, and as the rinse cycle goes into the drain sink I notice the dirty water washing away the dirt from the rags. Then the water goes back into nature and eventually she is the great purifier, sorting the dirt to its proper place and the water becoming clean once again. ~ PT ~ If only I may grow: firmer, simpler, -- quieter, warmer. ~Dag Hammarskjold, (1905-1961 ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~~~> , The Stewarts <stews9@c...> wrote: > This is zero-sum thinking and is ridiculous. > > Same as the sociopathic zero-sum game the rapacious capitalists play. > They truly believe that for them to profit, others must lose. Hence the > Haliburton / Big Oil Wars, etc. > > Far better to go for a win-win situation, which requires compromise, > something the C3 NeoCons cannot abide. > > > On Thursday, November 27, 2003, at 07:00 AM, > wrote: > > > In order for something to become clean, > > something else must become dirty. > > ~ Imbesi's Law of Conservation of Filth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2003 Report Share Posted November 29, 2003 I share your view of this, PT. My younger brother taught me to flush vegetable matter (neither of us had access to compost). By doing so, the matter breaks down and is used as composted fertilizer at the end of the sewage processes. Sewage water does not disappear once it goes down the drain. Good reason to use chlorine bleach and other harsh cleaners very sparingly. Donni - ~ PT ~ Saturday, November 29, 2003 9:20 AM Re: Zero Sum Thinking Is Stupid Wow. I thought it was a fun quote. Guess it is all in your perspective, and mine being the domestic sort, I always notice how after I clean the kitchen I have dirty rags and then must wash them. So then I do, and as the rinse cycle goes into the drain sink I notice the dirty water washing away the dirt from the rags. Then the water goes back into nature and eventually she is the great purifier, sorting the dirt to its proper place and the water becoming clean once again. ~ PT ~ If only I may grow: firmer, simpler, -- quieter, warmer. ~Dag Hammarskjold, (1905-1961 ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~~~> , The Stewarts <stews9@c...> wrote: > This is zero-sum thinking and is ridiculous. > > Same as the sociopathic zero-sum game the rapacious capitalists play. > They truly believe that for them to profit, others must lose. Hence the > Haliburton / Big Oil Wars, etc. > > Far better to go for a win-win situation, which requires compromise, > something the C3 NeoCons cannot abide. > > > On Thursday, November 27, 2003, at 07:00 AM, > wrote: > > > In order for something to become clean, > > something else must become dirty. > > ~ Imbesi's Law of Conservation of Filth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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