Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 On Wednesday, December 3, 2003, at 08:19 PM, wrote: > Kosher Re: They Want Us On Pills For Life > > It's also worth noting that in the religions of Islam and Judaism > which prohibit the consumption of pig flesh, it is not done out of > any sacredness or respect for the animal (i.e. cows in hindi > religion), but rather out of the belief that pigs are filthy beasts > unfit for human consumption. True, and the idiocy of this is the impossibility of avoiding contaminants that are demonstrably unfit for human consumption. > I believe the passage in the old > testament the passage says something about not eating animals > with " cloven hooves " . Old rule of thumb, yes. > As for kosher laws, that stemmed from some > passage about not eating " a goat boiled in the milk of its mother " , > (because this was supposedly an ancient " satanic " ritual) Oh that, it was NOT. There are no Satanic anything mentioned. This was symbolic speech having nothing whatsoever to do with actual food. > which has > since been stretched to include never mixing dairy with meat. You are jabbering here. > My gf > (who is Jewish- ethnicity only) tells me that among kosher Jews, > becoming a vegetarian / vegan is " cheating " , because keeping kosher > is supposed to be hard and inconvenient; Yep, just another form of control. > evidently so they can > complain about it and yet maintain their self-righteousness. Oh, generous view. She must be delighted to have found you. > Now, > although I'd prefer people not eat pork for ethical reasons, I'm all > for them believing whatever they want if it means one less pig being > killed. End justifies means, hm? Interesting view. > But what " gets my goat " is that if someone says they have > some dietary restriction because of their religion people tend to > accept it and take it seriously, whereas if someone actually thought > for themselves and went veggie for ethical or health reasons they are > often scoffed at and pressured to defend their position.. Yep. Received wisdom is sacrosanct but gods help you if you're stupid enough to dare to think for yourself, in this culture. > . Of course, > beliefs based on unconventional / non-western religions (i.e. > buddhism and wiccanism) tend not to be taken seriously either. By whom? them. > I have been privileged to have many great teachers. One of the greatest of these was P. L. Travers. Few people know that, in addition to being the author of Mary Poppins, she was one of the most advanced souls of this age. You can see a little of it in her books like “About the Sleeping Beauty.” Her surrender to God had brought her to the divine feminine, and she used to say to us that we must “lie in the lap of the goddess.” And when you asked her what that meant, she would say, “it means to be unsure.” --Whitley Srieber's Journal for 16 Aug 2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 well, I'd certainly prefer that people refrain from eating animal flesh out of ethical reasons, or at least (informed) health or environmental reasons. There's always the chance that once the behavior changes the attitudes will follow. > Now, > although I'd prefer people not eat pork for ethical reasons, I'm all > for them believing whatever they want if it means one less pig being > killed. End justifies means, hm? Interesting view. " Fill me in on your new vision Wake me up with indecision Help me trust your mighty wisdom Yes I eat cow, I am not proud Show me how you question, question Lead the way to my temptations Take my hand and give it cleaning As I eat cow, I am not proud " Kurt Cobain, from " Mr. Moustache " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 > Kosher Re: They Want Us On Pills For Life > > It's also worth noting that in the religions of Islam and Judaism > which prohibit the consumption of pig flesh, it is not done out of > any sacredness or respect for the animal (i.e. cows in hindi > religion), but rather out of the belief that pigs are filthy beasts > unfit for human consumption. just for clarification, hindi is a language, not a religion. the term hindu applies to adherents of hinduism. but even that is a misnomer. sanatana dharma is the actual name from the religion. the term " hindu " is a bastardization of indus, a reference to the geographic origin of the practioners, not the practice. at any rate, hindu and hinduism are acceptable references to the religion, just not entirely accurate. Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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