Guest guest Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 Surely that most of been a typo? I hope you know that all humans are the same species= homo sapien. If the Inuit are able to eat meat raw, my guess it is only with great practice and out of practical necessity. I'm not sure but it might be possible for people to build a tolerance so to speak of blood in their food. Or it may have something to do with the meat being frozen. (assuming that it is an accurate reflection of the real life event) In the movie " Alive " when the plane crash survivors resorted to eating human flesh, they ate it raw, but the bodies were frozen. All the points people have been making here suggest humans have been evolving away from meateating. Rats, chimps, and other true omnivores can eat their meat raw without trouble. The nomads you spoke of have good health because they get a hell of a lot more exercise than the average McDonalds-going Americans. I doubt it has much to do with the meat. Anyway, it all comes down to what you said in the last paragraph. It doesn't matter if meat is beneficial to other apes or certain human cultures, in the Western world meat is extremely bad for everyone. , " Ian W Rudge " <ianr@i...> wrote: > Hmm, some interesting points there. > > My two cents' worth: > > While most species of human are unable to eat raw meat, that is not > universally true, I believe the Inuit eat a substantial part of their > meat raw, and this does not appear to have any adverse effects on > their health. (not that I'd advise trying it, please note!) > > Interestingly, it also seems that the various nomads in diverse parts > of the world who subsist almost wholly on (cooked) meat from their > herds generally have very good health, possibly better than ours. > > The main issue for us in the developed world, I think is not whether > we are designed to handle meat, but that the meat itself carries so > many health-risks with it. The meat we eat (or refuse!) here is > hardly the same thing as a freshly-hunted reindeer or seal. Diseases > borne by intensively-farmed animals like BSE, plus antibiotics and > homones injected into the animal... all pose a health risk to the > eater, and are the reason why more and more of this omnivore species > now refuses meat. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2003 Report Share Posted December 31, 2003 > Surely that most of been a typo? I hope you know that all humans are > the same species= homo sapien. No, it wasn't though maybe species isn't the right word. What I mean is that humans have adapted to all kinds of different lifesyles and diets. I was also making the point that, while for us in consumerland vegetarianism is the way forward, it's not really an option for the Inuit, as their environment simply doesn't support a wide-enough range of plant-life to keep them healthy. However, it has to be said in their favour that they don't keep their animals in overcrowded pens, stuff them with drugs or whatever. Thay take what is needed from the environment, but no more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2003 Report Share Posted December 31, 2003 All species really means is when two individuals could procreate and produce fertile offspring. Inuit is a different ethnicity than European Americans, that's all. I get really creeped out whenever someone refers to another ethnic group as another species because that sort of thinking has been used to justify racism; I know you weren't doing that, but it is still dangerous for people to be perpetuating the myth that there different ethnic groups are different species. Obviously this is only dangerous because some people believe that other species don't deserve the same basic rights as humans. Sure, I think it is perfectly ethical for other cultures to eat meat if they have no choice. The problem is when American meatheads use the fact that other cultures eat meat to justify their own meat-eating; it goes something like this. You say eating meat is cruel and unnecessary. They say, " But what about such and such a culture- They eat meat, is it wrong for them? " When you say no, then they go " Aha, see eating meat isn't wrong! " Argh! A meat-eaters reasoning ability turns to that of a rock when they're defending their hedonistic habit. , " Ian W Rudge " <ianr@i...> wrote: > > Surely that most of been a typo? I hope you know that all humans are > > the same species= homo sapien. > > No, it wasn't though maybe species isn't the right word. What I mean > is that humans have adapted to all kinds of different lifesyles and > diets. > > I was also making the point that, while for us in consumerland > vegetarianism is the way forward, it's not really an option for the > Inuit, as their environment simply doesn't support a wide-enough > range of plant-life to keep them healthy. However, it has to be said > in their favour that they don't keep their animals in overcrowded > pens, stuff them with drugs or whatever. Thay take what is needed > from the environment, but no more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2004 Report Share Posted January 1, 2004 > I get really creeped out whenever someone refers to another ethnic > group as another species because that sort of thinking has been used > to justify racism; I know you weren't doing that, but it is still > dangerous for people to be perpetuating the myth that there different > ethnic groups are different species. Oops, I didn't intend to get your hackles up! There was no racist content, or implication, whatsoever. Racism does suck, and the worst instigators of racism and bigotry are our UK Government themselves, insisting as they do that official forms for passports, job-applications and the like contain ethnic questions. The worst aspect is that they invaribly say " You MUST fill this section in, as we need the information to prevent racial discrimination. " Yeah. We believe you. Sure. Point of fact, you don't need to be a different species, colour, race, gender -or whatever. Here in the UK, I, a white male, have on many occasions been discriminated against simply because I live in a different town from that which I was born in. It's as xenophobic as it gets. And the Government exacerbates the problem by putting this sort of xenophobe-fodder onto documents for everyone to see. Right now the UK Government is trying to push through a scheme for compulsory ID cards, and these cards would carry all sorts of info on a chip. You bet they'll carry discriminatory info like that, too, and the cardholder won't know exactly what damaging info it does contain. All you'll know is that bigoted people will refuse you a job, or credit, because of something on the card that's racist or xenophobic. Everyone needs to fight these cards as hard as they can. Anyway, nothing to do with veggies, but thought I needed to clear that one up. Happy New Year, Ian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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