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If one avoids leather, avoids patronizing businesses that promote animal

cruelty in any way, or otherwise avoids supporting practices Vegans

consider unethical, then obviously choosing a cat as a pet goes against

one's mindset.

 

On Sunday, January 4, 2004, at 11:21 AM,

wrote:

 

> So then, here is the ethical question of the day......is it VEGAN to

> keep a cat (a known carnivore) as a pet?

>

>

 

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Have revealed the fear that they can barely name.

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> Gandalf the Gray <gandalfthegray86

> Sun Jan 04, 2004 07:14:01 PM US/Central

> The Stewarts <stews9

> Re: No Cats For Us, Please; We're Vegan

>

>>> So then, here is the ethical question of the day......is it VEGAN to

>>> keep a cat (a known carnivore) as a pet?

>

> Being vegan, here is what I think: Keeping a cat per se is not against

> the ethical principles of veganism. There are a few cavets to heed,

> however.

>

> (1) Cats are carnivores, pure and simple; if my knowledge serves me, cats

> cannot be forced into vegitarianism, either, for biochemical reasons.

> This is not unethical per se, either, as it is the cat's nature to be a

> carnivore, and it would be unethical to try to force them to be something

> that they are not because you say they ought to be.

>

> (2) However, support of the meat-production industries per the purchase

> of commercial cat food is probably against the ethical principles of

> veganism. The truth is that most pet food is made from the cheap parts

> of meats made for consumer consumption by humans; cat food, more than

> likely, is indirectly supporting industries in the same way that buying

> Blue Bunny brand milk is. These companies, in our current

> nickel-and-dime society, are pressured into unethical practices including

> buying up small farmers and ranchers, and making the factory farms that

> nearly every vegan finds unhuman (not just inhumane).

>

> (3) If one could avoid buying commercial cat food, and additionally

> ensure that either the cat does his or her own hunting or gets his or her

> food via means of " ethical " slaughter, then I would argue it is perfectly

> ethical to keep a cat. Similarly, if you are vegan and a farmer, having

> a cat on your land, living off rats and what-not, is not unethical --

> cats hunt, that's just how they are (and killing off all the cats to keep

> them from hunting would be just as bad, arguably far worse). Of course,

> that raises the more general question:

>

> (4) Is it ethical to keep pets? Considering we have two dogs in the

> house, whom we regard as members of the family, I would say that at least

> some of the time it is. It depends on how you few the pet (this is

> starting to sound like a pro-slavery argument, sorry!) But if you treat

> the animal well, and don't subject it to cruelty such as denying a large

> animal room to exercise, etc. then what is wrong with it? The trouble

> with the cat in the barn is that it is not really a part of the family

> complex, it's just ... there. It's artificially been inserted into a

> natural environment.

>

> (5) --Since this is an ethical problem, there is really no solid answer.

>

> My conclusions, however, would be that it is ethical to keep a cat, if

> somehow you could avoid supporting the cruelty of the industries that

> your veganism tells you that you shouldn't. And if you feel that the

> point of being vegan is more akin to a morality issue ( " it's wrong of ME

> to take life, but not for my neighbor " ) than a political viewpoint, too,

> then it might just be okay for you to support those industries (even

> though I feel you're being unethical) through buying food for your little

> kitty.

>

> Certainly, though, you should think before you act. And if you have a

> cat -- keep the cat, and feed it, too! (You shouldn't get rid of the

> poor unethical beast!) And if you are getting a cat, period, then do one

> ethical thing: go to a shelter.

>

> SAS

>

>

 

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This is the best argument I've read!!! Well said and I would say

that I agree with this. Was this from your son the vegan?

 

 

, The Stewarts

<stews9@c...> wrote:

>

>

> > Gandalf the Gray <gandalfthegray86@c...>

> > Sun Jan 04, 2004 07:14:01 PM US/Central

> > The Stewarts <stews9@c...>

> > Re: No Cats For Us, Please; We're Vegan

> >

> >>> So then, here is the ethical question of the day......is it

VEGAN to

> >>> keep a cat (a known carnivore) as a pet?

> >

> > Being vegan, here is what I think: Keeping a cat per se is not

against

> > the ethical principles of veganism. There are a few cavets to

heed,

> > however.

> >

> > (1) Cats are carnivores, pure and simple; if my knowledge serves

me, cats

> > cannot be forced into vegitarianism, either, for biochemical

reasons.

> > This is not unethical per se, either, as it is the cat's nature

to be a

> > carnivore, and it would be unethical to try to force them to be

something

> > that they are not because you say they ought to be.

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