Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 Yes, it's usually the soy, and GMO may be unavoidable by now, alas. On Saturday, January 10, 2004, at 06:15 PM, (AT) (DOT) com wrote: > Message: 10 > Sat, 10 Jan 2004 17:54:53 -0000 > " Sheryl " <ssarndt > Morningstar Farms etc. > > , " matrixenos " > <matrixenos@h...> wrote: >> Yes...exactly why I recommended a homemade version. MSF grillers > and >> morning strips are excellent. > > > I don't know if it's of concern to anyone, but if you look on > Greenpeace's list of products with genetically engineered > ingredients, Morningstar Farms, Worthington, Natural Touch and Loma > Linda are all over the list of companies that DO use GMO products. > http://www.truefoodnow.org/shoppersguide/guide_printable.html#meatalt > > > Religion is the one thing humanity cannot seem to survive. --Frater Libre, ALA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 I can buy organic tofu and tempeh, but as for the fake me*t products, so far forget it ;=( As you say: GMO is everywhere. Best,Pat -- SANTBROWN townhounds/ vegetarianslimming/ HOMEPAGE: http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/ ---------- * " There are too many idiots in this world. And having said it, I have the burden of proving it. " (Franz Fanon) * " Until he extends the circle of compassion to all living things, man will not himself find peace. " (Albert Schweitzer) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 , The Stewarts <stews9@c...> wrote: > Yes, it's usually the soy, and GMO may be unavoidable by now, alas. Yes, I know that it seems to be becoming unavoidable by now. I have read that they tested some organic products and " non-GMO " products and found it. Regardless, I will not give up the fight on this one and do feel that my efforts and the efforts of the companies who attempt to avoid them are not in vain. At least I'm doing my part! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 , Sant & Brown <santbrown@l...> wrote: > I can buy organic tofu and tempeh, but as for the fake me*t products, so > far forget it ;=( As you say: GMO is everywhere. Yes it is everywhere. Unfortunately. Meat is everywhere too, but that doesn't mean we have to accept it. I think we have to do our part to show our support or non-support of what we believe in and not just sit back and let it happen. By sitting back and letting it happen, we are showing de-facto support for the spread of GMOs, lax regulation and testing and more importantly for the contamination of our organic produce. It's also about giving up our rights to choose. At a minimum we should be allowed to choose whether we want to consume them or not and this would mean placing labels on the products that use them. Just like we as vegetarians want labeling so we know whether it contains animal products or not, we should be allowed to know whether we are eating the products of genetic manipulation too. My $.02. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 I strongly support this ;=) Buying organic, asking for organic, non-gmo food/products, lobbying, supporting organizations that are trying to stop gmo foods - yes, not just label them, for heaven's sake, but stop the whole nonsense - all this and more - *this* is what we (me and dh) are doing now and what I assume others, like yourself, are doing. To agree that it's everywhere is not to acquiesce in its existence ;=) but only to state the degree of difficulty and, if you like, danger. And until it is stopped, yes, let us know about it by accurate labelling. It's easy to tell with fruits and veggies, but . . . Siggghhhh. Best, Pat > > Yes it is everywhere. Unfortunately. Meat is everywhere too, but > that doesn't mean we have to accept it. I think we have to do our > part to show our support or non-support of what we believe in and > not just sit back and let it happen. By sitting back and letting it > happen, we are showing de-facto support for the spread of GMOs, lax > regulation and testing and more importantly for the contamination of > our organic produce. It's also about giving up our rights to > choose. At a minimum we should be allowed to choose whether we want > to consume them or not and this would mean placing labels on the > products that use them. Just like we as vegetarians want labeling so > we know whether it contains animal products or not, we should be > allowed to know whether we are eating the products of genetic > manipulation too. My $.02. > -- SANTBROWN townhounds/ vegetarianslimming/ HOMEPAGE: http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/ ---------- * " There are too many idiots in this world. And having said it, I have the burden of proving it. " (Franz Fanon) * " Until he extends the circle of compassion to all living things, man will not himself find peace. " (Albert Schweitzer) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 , Sant & Brown <santbrown@l...> wrote: > I strongly support this ;=) Buying organic, asking for organic, non-gmo > food/products, lobbying, supporting organizations that are trying to > stop gmo foods - yes, not just label them, for heaven's sake, but stop > the whole nonsense - You are absolutely right!! Thanks for clarifying!! I too think the whole thing should be stopped. Labelling is not enough, but it is a start and should eventually lead to the whole thing being stopped. Stopping the GMO food thing is a priority of mine! I also like organic produce because they don't put that nasty wax/shellac stuff on it! Interesting note on buying fruits and veggies: if you look at the number on the sticker on the fruit/vegetable you can tell whether it is conventional, organic or (so I've been told) GMO. For instance, the PLU number on bananas is 4011. If it is a conventionally grown banana, the number will be 4011. If it is organic it will be 94011 (organic has the " 9 " designator). I have read somewhere that genetically modified produce uses and " 8 " . So, a GMO banana would be 84011. At least in the USA. I personally have not seen an " 8 " , but am curious to know if others have. Anyone??? I always look at the numbers before buying because sometimes the signs on the produce bins are misleading, so to ensure I'm getting the organic ones I want, I do check the numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 thanks for the tip on buying produce sheryl. M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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