Digest Number 712

[Guest guest]

In einer eMail vom 19.01.2004 22:43:39 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt

:

 

> Meat's unhealthy and it's unethical to take another being's life when

> there is no need.

 

hear, hear. plus humans weren't designed to eat meat. The intestinal tract

is 22 feet long, much longer than carnivorous animals. Meat will stay in the

body for 3 or 4 days decomposing the entire time and sending toxins throughout

the body.

 

God how I wish my parents had raised me vegetarian. When they were visiting

me here in Germany a few years ago, my mom stupidly said something like, " I

bet you'd eat my lasagna. (which is loaded with dead cow) " I told her that she

lost that bet.

 

Some people just don't have ANY respect for the choices of another. As

George Sand used to say, " The world would be a lot less barbaric if only we were

completely vegetarian. "

 

True...how true

 

Phoenix

 

1sound.com/phoenix

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

In einer eMail vom 19.01.2004 22:43:39 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt

:

 

> >If all meat production were done as Kevin's parents do, would

> >you

> >change your mind about vegetarianism? In other words, would you

> >eat

> >the meat?

> >

>

 

 

Absolutely not.

 

> Sorry, but I find this discussion offensive,

 

So do I.

 

especially on a vegetarian

>

> list. I am a vegetarian. I thought this was a 'safe place' ;=) I am

> aware that the person posing the question has answered in the negative,

> for excellent reasons, and for that I applaud her. I don't want to stand

> up and sound like a bigoted bitch (whatsa matta, you guys? It's okay to

> discuss eating animals but not okay to use the word bigot?) who thinks

> she is holier than the pope, etc etc (fill in your own words), but I

> cannot do this. Absolutely effin not.

>

 

So BE a bigoted bitch....I'll stand right beside you and be a bigoted

bastard. :-)))

 

I LOVE this group.

 

Phoenix

 

1sound.com/phoenix

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

In einer eMail vom 19.01.2004 22:43:39 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt

:

 

> I'm sorry you feel that way. The question was not intended to

> offend anyone, but to spark a discussion on why people choose not to

> eat animals.

 

Aside from the fact that they are living beings that feel pain? Hmmmm, would

you eat a foetus?

 

 

I am genuinely interested to learn how others feel

>

> about this. It is not intended to make anyone feel " unsafe " in any

> manner and you are welcome to ignore the question. I am genuinely a

> curious, questioning person. Curious minds want to know what other

> people think about this. I do not and will never advocate a meat-

> eating diet. I had this notion that there are people who are

> vegetarian purely for reasons of the horrible conditions in the

> slaughterhouses. It would stand to reason to me that if someone

> chose to boycott eating meat because of the way animals were

> treated, that they might consider eating meat if the conditions were

> different.

 

Would you consider eating humans (if you were an " advanced " species) under

the " right " conditions??

 

It's kind of like boycotting a certain company because

>

> you dislike something they do and then as soon as they correct the

> problem, you could go back to purchasing their products. The

> conditions in the slaughterhouses are among my reasons for not

> eating meat, but even if they clean up their acts, I will not change

> my mind.

 

GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!!!

 

My mind was made up as a child whose parents raised a

>

> couple of cows to slaughter. They were raised in decent conditions

> (to my knowledge at the time) and were slaughtered such. It had

> nothing to do with today's slaughterhouses and everything to do with

> just not wanting to eat animals period.

> Please don't be offended by the question. Anyone who knows me will

> tell you that I am absolutely a kind and caring person who makes

> every attempt to get along with everyone and offend none.

>

 

My " father " proclaims to be a " christian " (I myself am Jewish), but he

conveniently disregards the fact that the early christians did not eat meat

(Jesus

was apparently vegetarian). It wasn't until the 4th century CE that

" christians " were " allowed " to eat meat by Constantine. He was a real piece of

work.

Guess what he did with vegetarians.....poured molten lead down their throats

because they were heretics. Now that's funny...kill a vegetarian because they

refuse to kill. Nice religion. I'm sure Jesus would have approved.

 

Phoenix

 

1sound.com/phoenix

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

, phoenixpiano@a... wrote:

 

> hear, hear. plus humans weren't designed to eat meat. The

intestinal tract

> is 22 feet long, much longer than carnivorous animals. Meat will

stay in the

> body for 3 or 4 days decomposing the entire time and sending toxins

throughout

> the body.

 

3 to 4 days!? Ew! I had no idea.

All I knew was that whenever I ate meat in my

past I felt just aweful afterwards; sluggish and

sort of just ick.

 

 

> a few years ago, my mom stupidly said something like, " I

> bet you'd eat my lasagna. (which is loaded with dead cow) " I told

her that she

> lost that bet.

 

*LOL* Yeah, I get this sort of comment alot. Always makes me

laugh. Meat eaters will say something like, " Well, I bet you'd

eat my wonderful blahblahblah dish...nobody can resist it! "

Yeah, roight! Well, I sure can. It does amaze me that they

believe I must feel deprived or secretly crave the meat when

I am unfortunate enough to smell it cooking.

 

~ PT ~

 

Natural kindly human instincts, whose earth-born rudiments

existing among animals and birds, have come to us

from Nature herself.

~ John Cowper Powys, 'Obstinate Cymric'