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On Wednesday, March 3, 2004, at 03:14 AM,

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> Message: 11

> Tue, 02 Mar 2004 21:35:55 -0000

> " Feral " <terebinthus

> Re: A Moo from the Far Corner of the Paddock

>

> , The Stewarts <stews9@c...>

> wrote:

>> No, because plants require cultivation.

>

>

> Some do, yes. But we will eat whatever we can if

> we get hungry enough.

 

Not if nothing's growing or if what grows is toxic, etc.

>

>

>> That's what is not possible in ravaged countrysides.

>

>

> Greenhouses, underground planting with grow lights...

> the list of solutions is endless.

 

Those two you cite are relatively high tech and require stable places. If

the climate goes completely nuts, some of those solutions may be viable,

others won't. I'm pretty sure individuals won't be able to take advantage

of most of them; we're not even assured a power grid, remember.

 

Read The Postman by David Brin, (the movie's wonky), for some near-time

post-apocalyptic stuff on how to survive.

 

> Even Nature will find a

> way. Ever see how fast plants reclaim ravaged

> countrysides, like on the Big Island of Hawaii where

> the lava has reclaimed the land?

 

Yes, but most of those won't sustain human beings. That's the thing that

worries me.

>

>

>> And today's veggie lifestyles are so sophisticated and rely so

> heavily

>> upon fabricated things that it's just not sustainable.

>

>

> We'll just have to adjust.. adapt. Maybe no more

> boxes of veggie ground, but I still contend that those

> of us that live on a plantbased diet will be ahead of the

> adapting game.

 

I'm not convinced, but I sure hope you're right, and either way I'm there

with you trying my damnedest.

>

> ~ feral ~

>

> I find politics the single most uninspiring, unemotional

> and insensitive activity on this planet.

> ~ Adam Ant

>

>

If you wish to know an era, study its most lucid nightmares. In the

mirrors of our darkest fears, much will be revealed. But don't mistake

those mirrors for road maps to the future, or even to the present.

--Wm. Gibson, " The Road to Oceania "

an essay for The New York Times

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, The Stewarts <stews9@c...>

wrote:

 

> Not if nothing's growing or if what grows is toxic, etc.

 

Good point! We might have to eat cockroaches!*lol*

I say it is time to stock up on hotsauce.

 

>

> Those two you cite are relatively high tech and require

stable places.

 

 

My greenhouse was very basic and it required no

electricity, but it was a pain in the ass to manage

in its simple form, and I confess I have a black thumb

for the most part.

 

 

> Read The Postman by David Brin, (the movie's wonky),

for some near-time

> post-apocalyptic stuff on how to survive.

 

 

Yes, that movie sucked. *lol* If you say the book is

better, then I believe you and will put it on my list.

I think there is a site in our links section by a guy who

is a wild vegetarian. His website lists native

plants and which ones are edible and how to prepare

them to " live off the land " . That might be worthy

of study, too. I do know some things to eat in the wild,

and I enjoy mycology, but am far from being an

expert in wild edibles.

 

 

> Yes, but most of those won't sustain human beings.

That's the thing that

> worries me.

 

 

Don't worry. Life is too short for that.

Besides, death is not the end... right?

*gets worried* (jk)

 

 

 

> I'm not convinced, but I sure hope you're right,

and either way I'm there

> with you trying my damnedest.

 

 

See? Now that alone is reason to smile and have hope!

 

 

~ feral ~

 

One soul in the immensity of its intelligence,

is greater and more excellent than the whole world.

The ocean is but the drop of a bucket to it,

and the heavens but a center, the sun obscurity,

and all ages but as one day.

~ Thomas Traherne, 'Centuries'

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Wildcrafting interests me greatly. I would love to learn which plants in my are

are edible or medicinal and should be cultivated.

 

Feral <terebinthus wrote:I think there is a site in our links section

by a guy who

is a wild vegetarian. His website lists native

plants and which ones are edible and how to prepare

them to " live off the land " . That might be worthy

of study, too. I do know some things to eat in the wild,

and I enjoy mycology, but am far from being an

expert in wild edibles.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Me too! It sure makes nature hikes with my kids

more fun and interesting when we discuss the

plants and can stop and taste a bit of nature safely

on our way. I live in southern Oregon and we take

quite a few hikes and long country drives for wild

picnics here through most of the moderate seasons.

 

I have yet to buy this cookbook, but I have visited

this author's site many times. You might find it

interesting as well:

 

http://www.wildmanstevebrill.com/

 

Here is a bit about the cookbook, but I suggest you

do a search or troll around for the best price:

 

http://www.fungifest.com/reviews/steve_brill.html

 

~ PT ~

 

The greatest minds are capable of the greatest vices

as well as of the greatest virtues.

~Rene Descartes, philosopher and mathematician (1596-1650)

 

 

, reptile grrl

<reptilegoddess>

wrote:

> Wildcrafting interests me greatly. I would love to learn which

plants in my

are are edible or medicinal and should be cultivated.

>

> Feral <terebinthus> wrote:I think there is a site in our links

section by a

guy who

> is a wild vegetarian. His website lists native

> plants and which ones are edible and how to prepare

> them to " live off the land " . That might be worthy

> of study, too. I do know some things to eat in the wild,

> and I enjoy mycology, but am far from being an

> expert in wild edibles.

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