Guest guest Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 Grr. This is just irresponsible to report crap like this. First, it seems like the kids they were looking at were replacing milk with soda. That is a reduction in calories if you drink full fat milk. But for 1% it's the same. And for non-fat milk, the soda has more calories. Here's what I got from http://www.calorie-count.com/ 16 oz coke 207 calories milk reg 292 calories milk 1% 204 calories milk non-fat 172 calories Gee, I wonder who paid for this study, in part. Yep, the National Dairy Council. Of course, they have no interest in this study coming out in their favor, right? What really burns me is that people will just read the headline or the first paragraph and never get to the bottom where it says the dairy industry paid for this study. Seriously, it's the 4th paragraph before they even mention that eating more than you burn makes you overweight. Blah. story here and below in case it moves: http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/nation/8108609.htm Laura - Posted on Fri, Mar. 05, 2004 Dairy products reduce children's weight gain ---------- The Associated Press ---------- SAN FRANCISCO — Children who skimp on milk and other dairy food to avoid calories actually appear to substantially increase their risk of becoming overweight, a study has found. Several reports in recent years have shown the health benefits of dairy products, despite their fat content. The latest research shows an unusually striking effect on weight as children go through their teens. Too much weight is the most common medical condition of childhood, pediatricians say. The problem has doubled in the last two decades, and about 15 percent are now considered overweight or obese. Although the overall cause is too much food and too little exercise, many studies are attempting to find the precise changes in habits that are driving this health hazard. Several were reported Thursday at a meeting of the American Heart Association. Lynn Moore, an epidemiologist at Boston University School of Medicine, found that just two servings of dairy food a day are linked to a substantial reduction in adolescent fatness. Childhood dairy intake has been failing for 20 years, in part as children's preferences have switched from milk to soft drinks. In this time, soda consumption has risen by 300 percent. Another factor has been fat phobia. Children “consume less and less as they get older,” Moore said. “Adolescent girls in particular are concerned about eating dairy, because they think it will make them fat.” Her research, based on the Framingham Children's Study, found that the opposite is true. The analysis was financed largely by the National Health, Lung and Blood Institute, with additional funding from the National Dairy Council. Several studies have shown that children and adults who consume adequate amounts of dairy foods have lower blood pressure. Just how dairy food might moderate weight gain is a mystery. Moore speculated that calcium or some other nutrient in milk might help influence the way the body stores energy in fat cells. Or perhaps dairy foods simply make children feel less hungry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 um thats the first time i have heard that dairy can make you lose weight. :-/ leah:) morgaana wrote: Grr. This is just irresponsible to report crap like this. First, it seems like the kids they were looking at were replacing milk with soda. That is a reduction in calories if you drink full fat milk. But for 1% it's the same. And for non-fat milk, the soda has more calories. Here's what I got from http://www.calorie-count.com/ 16 oz coke 207 calories milk reg 292 calories milk 1% 204 calories milk non-fat 172 calories Gee, I wonder who paid for this study, in part. Yep, the National Dairy Council. Of course, they have no interest in this study coming out in their favor, right? What really burns me is that people will just read the headline or the first paragraph and never get to the bottom where it says the dairy industry paid for this study. Seriously, it's the 4th paragraph before they even mention that eating more than you burn makes you overweight. Blah. story here and below in case it moves: http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/nation/8108609.htm Laura - Posted on Fri, Mar. 05, 2004 Dairy products reduce children's weight gain ---------- The Associated Press ---------- SAN FRANCISCO — Children who skimp on milk and other dairy food to avoid calories actually appear to substantially increase their risk of becoming overweight, a study has found. Several reports in recent years have shown the health benefits of dairy products, despite their fat content. The latest research shows an unusually striking effect on weight as children go through their teens. Too much weight is the most common medical condition of childhood, pediatricians say. The problem has doubled in the last two decades, and about 15 percent are now considered overweight or obese. Although the overall cause is too much food and too little exercise, many studies are attempting to find the precise changes in habits that are driving this health hazard. Several were reported Thursday at a meeting of the American Heart Association. Lynn Moore, an epidemiologist at Boston University School of Medicine, found that just two servings of dairy food a day are linked to a substantial reduction in adolescent fatness. Childhood dairy intake has been failing for 20 years, in part as children's preferences have switched from milk to soft drinks. In this time, soda consumption has risen by 300 percent. Another factor has been fat phobia. Children “consume less and less as they get older,” Moore said. “Adolescent girls in particular are concerned about eating dairy, because they think it will make them fat.” Her research, based on the Framingham Children's Study, found that the opposite is true. The analysis was financed largely by the National Health, Lung and Blood Institute, with additional funding from the National Dairy Council. Several studies have shown that children and adults who consume adequate amounts of dairy foods have lower blood pressure. Just how dairy food might moderate weight gain is a mystery. Moore speculated that calcium or some other nutrient in milk might help influence the way the body stores energy in fat cells. Or perhaps dairy foods simply make children feel less hungry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 The National Dairy Council has been buying full page ads in national magazines (Better Homes & Garden etc) jumping on the " Atkins " rage. The ads say that because dairy products are high in protein, you can eat lots of dairy and still lose weight! Absolutely incredible. I about fell off the couch laughing when I read that ad. Denise , leah chavah <avital_shalom> wrote: > um thats the first time i have heard that dairy can make you lose weight. :-/ > > leah:) > > morgaana@a... wrote: > Grr. This is just irresponsible to report crap like this. First, it > seems like the kids they were looking at were replacing milk with soda. > That is a reduction in calories if you drink full fat milk. But for 1% > it's the same. And for non-fat milk, the soda has more calories. Here's > what I got from http://www.calorie-count.com/ > > 16 oz > > coke 207 calories > milk reg 292 calories > milk 1% 204 calories > milk non-fat 172 calories > > Gee, I wonder who paid for this study, in part. Yep, the National Dairy > Council. Of course, they have no interest in this study coming out in > their favor, right? > > What really burns me is that people will just read the headline or the > first paragraph and never get to the bottom where it says the dairy > industry paid for this study. Seriously, it's the 4th paragraph before > they even mention that eating more than you burn makes you overweight. > Blah. > > story here and below in case it moves: > http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/nation/8108609.htm > > Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 yep. I get those atkins quacks calling here every day because we make sugar free products. Scott Denise [pamperedveggie] Friday, March 05, 2004 2:45 PM Re: Dairy products reduce children's weight gain The National Dairy Council has been buying full page ads in national magazines (Better Homes & Garden etc) jumping on the " Atkins " rage. The ads say that because dairy products are high in protein, you can eat lots of dairy and still lose weight! Absolutely incredible. I about fell off the couch laughing when I read that ad. Denise , leah chavah <avital_shalom> wrote: > um thats the first time i have heard that dairy can make you lose weight. :-/ > > leah:) > > morgaana@a... wrote: > Grr. This is just irresponsible to report crap like this. First, it > seems like the kids they were looking at were replacing milk with soda. > That is a reduction in calories if you drink full fat milk. But for 1% > it's the same. And for non-fat milk, the soda has more calories. Here's > what I got from http://www.calorie-count.com/ > > 16 oz > > coke 207 calories > milk reg 292 calories > milk 1% 204 calories > milk non-fat 172 calories > > Gee, I wonder who paid for this study, in part. Yep, the National Dairy > Council. Of course, they have no interest in this study coming out in > their favor, right? > > What really burns me is that people will just read the headline or the > first paragraph and never get to the bottom where it says the dairy > industry paid for this study. Seriously, it's the 4th paragraph before > they even mention that eating more than you burn makes you overweight. > Blah. > > story here and below in case it moves: > http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/nation/8108609.htm > > Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 Actually, a nutritionist once told me that part of the fat in milk binds with the calcium and both are carried out of the body. leah chavah <avital_shalom wrote:um thats the first time i have heard that dairy can make you lose weight. :-/ leah:) Search - Find what you’re looking for faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2004 Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 so then the calcium in milk would be useless, right? , reptile grrl <reptilegoddess> wrote: > Actually, a nutritionist once told me that part of the fat in milk binds with the calcium and both are carried out of the body. > > leah chavah <avital_shalom> wrote:um thats the first time i have heard that dairy can make you lose weight. :-/ > > leah:) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2004 Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 Not completely useless, but almost. Apparently, most of the calcium in milk can't actually be absorbed by the body. The amount of actual, *available* calcium in dairy milk is much smaller than the amount of total calcium. Some people try to get around this by drinking nonfat milk, but the fat in milk is actually pretty crucial to the absorbtion of the nutrients in milk. Thus, milk really shouldn't be relied on as one's only source of calcium- eat those legumes & leafy greens! dave <dave4sale wrote: so then the calcium in milk would be useless, right? , reptile grrl <reptilegoddess> wrote: > Actually, a nutritionist once told me that part of the fat in milk binds with the calcium and both are carried out of the body. > Search - Find what you’re looking for faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2004 Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 They also did a few studies (i think i posted one awhile ago) that showed that animal proteins (meat / dairy) are more acidic than plant proteins and this also prevents usage of the calcium. And there's also the fact that magnesium is very helpful in absorbing calcium, which of course they never put in milk. , reptile grrl <reptilegoddess> wrote: > Not completely useless, but almost. Apparently, most of the calcium in milk can't actually be absorbed by the body. The amount of actual, *available* calcium in dairy milk is much smaller than the amount of total calcium. > > Some people try to get around this by drinking nonfat milk, but the fat in milk is actually pretty crucial to the absorbtion of the nutrients in milk. > > Thus, milk really shouldn't be relied on as one's only source of calcium- eat those legumes & leafy greens! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2004 Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 I don't understand why they don't add magnesium, but do add vitamin D. Vitamin D is really important for calcium usage and absorption, but there is growing evidence that the amounts added to processed milk are dangerous. I'd rather have certified raw ( " ceritifed " milk is milk that has been certified disease-free) milk than pasteurized, homogenized, and supplemented milk. Yeah, I defiitely want to get away from processed dairy and into raw milk. There is, unfortunately, no local raw cow's milk producer in my area. I am considering buying a few head of miniature cattle, so that I can keep and milk them myself. I love cows. For those who do drink dairy milk, it's not a bad idea to pop a magnesium tablet when you do so. dave <dave4sale wrote: They also did a few studies (i think i posted one awhile ago) that showed that animal proteins (meat / dairy) are more acidic than plant proteins and this also prevents usage of the calcium. And there's also the fact that magnesium is very helpful in absorbing calcium, which of course they never put in milk. Search - Find what you’re looking for faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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