8TH Continent Soymilk

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8th Continent, is not vegetarian as it contains lanolin from sheep. Can't

remember where I read it, Vegetarian Times maybe?

 

Silk Unsweetened is my favorite soymilk

 

Kimberly

 

 

Sun, 21 Mar 2004 23:04:26 -0800 (PST)

" artichoke72x "

Re: Re: Soy Milk

 

i think we have had a discussion about that 8th

continent soy milk on this list. isn't it the one

that contains vitamin d that's derived from an animal

source? anyone know?

 

susie

 

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> I almost purchased a jug of reg. soy milk made by

> 8th Continent (I believe that was the name), today...

 

 

 

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yes, someone contacted 8th continent and the company said the vitamin D was

animal-derived.

 

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[Guest guest]

If that were the case, then it could be vegetarian- just not vegan. However, if

that were the case, wouldn't that lanolin be listed in the ingredient list?

It's not on that list- unless it's under " natural and artificial flavors. "

 

Lanolin has a rather strong smell, though- it would be hard to hide. WHile 8th

continent does taste too beany for me, it doesn't taste or smell woolly.

 

Kimberly <qterthanu23 wrote:

8th Continent, is not vegetarian as it contains lanolin from sheep. Can't

remember where I read it, Vegetarian Times maybe?

 

Silk Unsweetened is my favorite soymilk

 

Kimberly

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

At 09:38 PM 3/22/04, you wrote:

>If that were the case, then it could be vegetarian- just not vegan.

 

I believe that is correct.

 

> However, if that were the case, wouldn't that lanolin be listed in the

> ingredient list? It's not on that list- unless it's under " natural and

> artificial flavors. "

>

>Lanolin has a rather strong smell, though- it would be hard to

>hide. WHile 8th continent does taste too beany for me, it doesn't taste

>or smell woolly.

 

If I read things right some type of vitamin D comes from the fat

of the sheep's wool ( I guess sheep's wool fat is also known as

lanolin). Anyway, my assumption is that the Vit D doesn't show

up until many processing steps from the original lanolin and, for

that reason or due to those many steps, it winds up not really

smelling like lanolin (or probably anything at all for that matter).

Another assumption I have is that rennet doesn't smell at all

like the insides of a cow's stomach since there are a number

of steps between the cow's stomach lining and rennet in

cheese.

 

With respect to the listing in the ingredients here's another

of my assumptions, it's like acetyl salicylic acid, aka aspirin.

If you look at this web page

<http://bengu-pc2.njit.edu/trp-chem/aspirins/nap9.html>

you will note that aspirin doesn't start out as aspirin. It

starts out as many other chemicals but for reasons I do

not know and/or understand, simply putting aspirin

on the bottle satisfies the legal process. So from this

follows my next assumption that because 8th Continent

has Vit D in the ingredients it satisfies some legal requirement

without necessitating the inclusion of its original constituent

or source, which is lanolin. Now my assumptions could be

entirely wrong but they don't seem entirely unreasonable to

my, at times, odd way of thinking (or maybe that's the government's

odd way of thinking . . . .)

 

Gary

 

>Kimberly <qterthanu23 wrote:

>8th Continent, is not vegetarian as it contains lanolin from sheep. Can't

>remember where I read it, Vegetarian Times maybe?

>

>Silk Unsweetened is my favorite soymilk

>

>Kimberly

[Guest guest]

If the only additive is the isolated vitamin D, then they aren't required to

list its source. That would explain the label and the lack of a woolly smell.

 

You are correct- lanolin is the oil that is found in sheep's wool. It's

basically their skin oil- humans produce sebum, sheep produce lanolin. It

basically waterproofs the wool, keeping the sheep dry even in dismal weather.

 

It's all water under the bridge to me, of course- I gave up soy milk and

returned to dairy, for my health. I am considering getting a few cows of my own

so I can have fresh milk. I love cows.

 

Most cheese in the US today, btw, is made from bioengineered rennet. No calf's

stomach required.

 

- priscilla

 

 

 

 

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<<<reptile grrl

Re: Re:8TH Continent Soymilk

 

It's all water under the bridge to me, of course- I gave up soy milk and

returned to dairy, for my health. I am considering getting a few cows of my own

so I can have fresh milk. I love cows.>>

 

As a macrobiotic I do not use milk of any kind...animal derived or not. I am

curious as to how drinking cows milk is beneficial to your health. I know I seem

skeptical but I honestly have not found any benefits of drinking another

creatures milk intended for their babies. I would really like some insight on

this, if anyone can provide it.

 

 

 

Thanks so much!! )

 

Kimberly

 

 

 

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humans any more than black people were made for whites or women for men.

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Although I do not have a soy allergy, I began to suspect that soy was

contributing to my ill health when a change in test results happened to coincide

with a month when I ate almost no soy (I have a blood draw every six weeks).

The test results before and after that particular draw were similar to one

another (and not good) and I had returned to eating a lot of soy.

 

So, I cut way down on soy. Now, I only eat it every once in awhile, when

there's a particular food that I really want. It's effectively out of my diet,

and that has made a huge difference in my appearance, my energy level, and in my

test results. I feel better, have more energy, more stable blood pressure,

 

Although I tried many brands of soy milk, I never found a brand that had a

really good taste. I loved Odwalla Milk, which was a blend of soy milk, rice

milk, and oat milk, but I am apparently the only person who liked it- it was

discontinued. Sales on it were very limited, largely due to pressure from the

dairy industry; the dairy industry limits how grocery stores can display soy

milks. Anyway, because I never found another good-tasting soy milk, I wasn't

drinking as much milk as I had before. So, I wasn't getting as much calcium as

I had before I gave up dairy. I saw a big difference there also- the increase

in calcium, when I returned ot dairy, improved my menstrual symptoms.

 

As to why I think that drinking cow's milk is healthy, I've been doing a lot of

research on raw milk. Before pasteurization, cow's milk is very similar to

human breast milk. Pasteurization and homogenization destroy enzymes and

nutrients which make cow's milk a healthy food. It's these processes which

reduce the healthiness of milk.

 

Baby calves fed on pasteurized milk sicken and die, because it doesn't have the

nutrients and enzymes that they need to survive.

 

I used to think that cow's milk was fundamentally unhealthy for humans to drink,

but now I have learned a lot more. It's not cow's milk that's unhealthy- it's

what humans do to it. (And isn't that the case with most foods?) You can learn

more about raw milk at http://realmilk.com or at the Weston A. Price Foundation

website: http://www.westonaprice.org/ .

 

It's hard to know what is true and what isn't. Some food faddists make a lot of

outrageous claims- I've seen such claims from vegetarians and from Atkins

dieters, and from peope of various other dietetic persuasions. So, I urge you

not to rely on only one source, but on many sources and on common sense.

 

We know that foods lose vitamins & enzymes as they cook. Look what happens to

vegetables when they are boiled to death or canned. (tomatoes and lycopene seem

to be an exception- the lycopene in tomatoes is more available when the tomatoes

are cooked.)

 

So, I would like to get a few cows of my own (probably miniature Jerseys) so

that I can have raw, fresh certified milk (certified milk is milk from cow's

that have been certified healthy by a veterinarian) and know that the cows in

question are being well-treated. I want to have my own chickens for the same

reason.

 

Before I purchase cattle, of course, I will try drinking certified raw milk and

see how it works for me. It's not available in my city, but it can be had in

other cities that I occasionally visit.

 

Btw, I love your Alice Walker sig quote. I'm a big fan of hers. I posted that

quote in my journal and it definitely inspired discussion.

 

- priscilla

 

 

 

Kimberly <qterthanu23 wrote:

 

 

As a macrobiotic I do not use milk of any kind...animal derived or not. I am

curious as to how drinking cows milk is beneficial to your health. I know I seem

skeptical but I honestly have not found any benefits of drinking another

creatures milk intended for their babies. I would really like some insight on

this, if anyone can provide it.

 

 

 

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