Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 , Kimberly <qterthanu23> wrote: > As a macrobiotic I do not use milk of any kind...animal derived or >not. I am curious as to how drinking cows milk is beneficial to your >health. I know I seem skeptical but I honestly have not found any >benefits of drinking another creatures milk intended for their >babies. I would really like some insight on this, if anyone can >provide it. Well said. This is one aspect of vegetarianism that I have always found to be hypocritical. Would one drink... horse milk? Dog's milk? Cat's milk? How about Rat's milk? yummm... Think about it. And is anyone here aware of what is done to the cows to get that yummy milk? Need I say more... (Hopping down from soap box now) cheryll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 Well, actually, Mongols have for centuries drunk horse milk. Not only do they drink it, but they ferment it to make liquor, and they dry it to a paste which is later partially reconstituted into a porridge- excellent travelling food. A Mongol's horses are fed and watered before s/he is. Dog's milk and cat's milk would be less suitable for humans, because they are not so similar to human milk as is cow's milk. Dog and cat's milks are formulated to feed purely carnivorous creatures, while cow's milk is formulated to feed an herbivore. However, some indigenous tribes in lands without cattle or horses have indeed used dog's milk. I know what happens to cows in most dairies, which is a) why I currently only buy from organic free-range dairies and b) why I want to have my own cattle, so that I can know for sure that the cattle will be treated well and without cruelty. The only things really necessary to the prduction of milk are impregnation (which happens naturally to most cows eventually) and milking (which would also happen naturally.) - priscilla cheryll <naturalist_44240 wrote: Well said. This is one aspect of vegetarianism that I have always found to be hypocritical. Would one drink... horse milk? Dog's milk? Cat's milk? How about Rat's milk? yummm... Think about it. And is anyone here aware of what is done to the cows to get that yummy milk? Need I say more... (Hopping down from soap box now) cheryll Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 Also, unless you know a particular person's reasons for being a vegetarian, you really don't have a basis on which to judge them as 'hypocritical' for drinking milk. Think about it. cheryll <naturalist_44240 wrote: Well said. This is one aspect of vegetarianism that I have always found to be hypocritical. Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 I'm tempted to respond, but resisting the urge. I suggest you discontinue this discussion or take it offlist, as it is likely to start offending both vegan and lacto-ovo members... , reptile grrl <reptilegoddess> wrote: > Also, unless you know a particular person's reasons for being a vegetarian, you really don't have a basis on which to judge them as 'hypocritical' for drinking milk. > > Think about it. > > cheryll <naturalist_44240> wrote: > Well said. This is one aspect of vegetarianism that I have always > found to be hypocritical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 With respect Dave, I'm a lacto-ovo veggie (and new Silk soy milk fan) and I'm NOT offended in the least bit (and still not sure why I would be). Just recently you were a vegetarian working for McDonalds (former on both). I've heard you on the list condemn non-veggies (in general) for their diet and ethics while at the same time helping/watching your work-mates fork all the flesh over to the " billion served " . It seems to me, this would be a tad more distressing to lacto-ovo vegetarians and vegans...wouldn't you think (sincerely)? just a thought...no flaming intended. ..And NONE expected in return. S. (juggler of dairy and soy milks...which one next..don't drop) Ps...fan of the unsweetened Silk too...tried it last night with a couple of cookies...it CAN be dunked on....soaks 'er right up! , " dave " <dave4sale> wrote: > I'm tempted to respond, but resisting the urge. I suggest you > discontinue this discussion or take it offlist, as it is likely to > start offending both vegan and lacto-ovo members... > > > , reptile grrl > <reptilegoddess> wrote: > > Also, unless you know a particular person's reasons for being a > vegetarian, you really don't have a basis on which to judge them > as 'hypocritical' for drinking milk. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2004 Report Share Posted March 27, 2004 I was referring mainly to the post where someone suggested drinking milk was hypocritical of vegetarians or something to that effect. Arguing about the ethics of veganism vs. lacto-ovoism could get pretty ugly and that's what I was trying to avoid. Fact is, no one here is perfect and all of us could probably be doing more to prevent cruelty towards animals. , " matrixenos " <matrixenos@h...> wrote: > With respect Dave, I'm a lacto-ovo veggie (and new Silk soy milk fan) > and I'm NOT offended in the least bit (and still not sure why I would > be). > > Just recently you were a vegetarian working for McDonalds (former on > both). I've heard you on the list condemn non-veggies (in general) > for their diet and ethics while at the same time helping/watching your > work-mates fork all the flesh over to the " billion served " . It seems > to me, this would be a tad more distressing to lacto-ovo vegetarians > and vegans...wouldn't you think (sincerely)? just a thought...no > flaming intended. ..And NONE expected in return. It was not my first choice of employment- even though keep in mind I still ate meat when I began working there. when you have little experience, disorderly conduct on your record, no money and have yet to get your college degree you take what you can get. my only consolation was that the customers would be buying the garbage whether or not I worked there. In the time I was stuck there I tried to help the occassional vegetarian customer. I don't see why anyone would have been distressed by this when I was the one stuck working for the Mc Devil. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2004 Report Share Posted March 27, 2004 Then why isn't that the post to which you replied? dave <dave4sale wrote:I was referring mainly to the post where someone suggested drinking milk was hypocritical of vegetarians or something to that effect. Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2004 Report Share Posted March 27, 2004 it was actually. Cheryl made the claim and you proceded to argue with her. I did also respond to your thusfar unsubstantiated claims that raw milk is healthy in post # 12974 , which I notice you have not replied to. , reptile grrl <reptilegoddess> wrote: > Then why isn't that the post to which you replied? > > dave <dave4sale> wrote:I was referring mainly to the post where someone suggested drinking > milk was hypocritical of vegetarians or something to that effect. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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