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At 5/15/2003, you wrote:

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> anitra <anitra-vr

>pies

>

>

>does anyone have some good recipes for savory (meaning non-sweet, not the

>spice) pies without dairy? i want to make little ones, like cupcake size,

>but i have no idea even how to begin or what might be good inside.

>

>many thanks,

>anitra

 

 

is this the kind of thing you're looking for?

<http://www.fatfree.com/recipes/dinner-pies/>

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Hi Veggie Folks, My name is Jessica. I've been vegetarian for ~16 years, since I was 13- when I discovered tofu and could prove to my mom I wouldn't die without eating meat. I love to cook,however, I'm a student and so time is usually in short supply. My favorite trick is to use my rice cooker to make the entire meal- here is a sample of what i might do: 1 cup rice 1 cup frozen broccoli (or your favorite, peas also work well) 1 can garbanzo (or your favorite) beans 2 cups water Put everything in the rice cooker at the same time, push the button down to cook- go study for your test, take a shower, whatever, come back in about 30 minutes when the button pops up and eat. that's it! If you have a little extra time you can put in some spices right at the beginning with everything else. I like: 1 tsp

fennel seeds 1tsp turmeric 1 tsp cumin 1/2 tsp cinnamon I live in Northwest Arkansas and would love to hear offline from anyone in the area- i'd really like to find some more veggie friendly restaurants in the area, and possibly folks to explore them with :) Bon Appetit, Jessica brightflower36 wrote: There are 2 messages in this issue.Topics in this digest:1. The Economics of a Bloodbath (Canadian baby seal slaughter)Rick Stevens 2. New member"agimari"

__________Message: 1 Sat, 4 Mar 2006 14:57:54 -0800 (PST)Rick Stevens The Economics of a Bloodbath (Canadian baby seal slaughter)The Economics of a Bloodbath Source >http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11659086/site/newsweek/The annual baby-seal hunt is underway in Canada. Coulddevaluing these beautiful animals actually save them?Heather and Paul McCartney visited a seal pup in theGulf of St. Lawrence on March 2Tom Hanson / APHeather and Paul McCartney visited a seal pup in theGulf of St. Lawrence on March 2By Patti DavisNewsweekUpdated: 4:53 p.m. ET March 3, 2006March 3, 2006 - Despite mounting pressure to cancelthe yearly seal hunt, in which hundreds of thousandsof baby

harp seals are killed simply for their pelts,the Canadian government is allowing the bloodbath tocontinue.Story continues below « advertisementBetween 2003 and 2005, an estimated 1 million sealpups were slaughtered according to the CanadianDepartment of Fisheries and Oceans. The kill levelsare twice as high as they were in the 1960s wheninternational outrage succeeded in closing downseveral markets for seal pelts. The United Statesbanned the import of seal products in 1972, and theEuropean Union agreed to a partial ban. Canadaeventually banned the killing of gwhitecoatsh (babyseals) in 1987. But those white coats are replaced byspotted gray coats in a matter of weeks--at which timethe seals are eligible for the hunt.Last year alone, more than 315,000 seals were killed.Some environmentalists report that some of the animalsare skinned alive and are left to die in agony.Canadafs claim that the hunt

is regulated andmonitored has been disputed every year by protesterswho show up at the same time the sealers do and havewitnessed what really goes on.The hunt begins in March after females give birth topups with soft plush fur. That fur is the reason thatthe ice floes turn red with blood. The defenselesspups, who have no way to escape the sealersf clubs andrifles, are prized only for their pelts. Only forfashion statements.Some people have held out hope that with a new primeminister, the annual hunt can be stopped. StephenHarper has replaced Paul Martin, who was anuncompromising supporter of the hunt. As yet, though,a regime change hasnft helped. There has been noindication that it will be canceled.However, there is some good news. Italy has banned theimport of seal products, and the British government isstrongly considering doing the same. Itfs clear thatif compassion will not end this

mass slaughter, maybeeconomics can. If no one is buying seal pelts, thepups (less than three months old) will not be clubbed,shot and skinned. Many might actually fulfill theirlife expectancy of 30 years.On Thursday, Paul and Heather McCartney visited theGulf of St. Lawrence to bring worldwide attention tothe pups whose fate is in the hands of the Canadiangovernment. Working with the Humane Society of theUnited States, they have stated their commitment tomake this a global issue.Predictably, sealers donft appreciate the high-profileattention the McCartneysf visit will bring to thisissue. The Canadian press quoted Jack Troake, a70-year-old sealer, who said, gItfs something wefvedone for 500 years. Itfs helped to sustain us. We goto bed with a full stomach, a tight roof over ourheads. Itfs part of our culture, our history.hAre we to actually believe that there is no other wayfor thousands

of people to make a living? That allthey are equipped to do is kill seal pups and skinthem? And as far as traditions dating back hundreds ofyears, there are plenty of old traditions that havebeen banished as countries have grown more civilized:town lynchings, slavery, bleeding people with leeches,stoning women to death c to name a few.In the end, supporters of the seal hunt may find thattheir worst enemy is global warming. Unseasonably warmtemperatures have prevented the formation of many icefloes, which is where females go to give birth. Thereis extremely low ice cover in both the Gulf of St.Lawrence and waters northeast of Newfoundland, bothprimary breeding sites.It would be nice if appealing to the hearts andcompassion of human beings was enough. But some ofearthfs inhabitants sadly only listen to money.Countries that are banning imports of seal productswill probably make the most difference.

Perhaps theonly way to save these beautiful creatures is torender them economically worthless. Itfs a strangeworld when the only way to save something valuable isby devaluing it. __________Message: 2 Sat, 04 Mar 2006 23:20:31 -0000"agimari" New memberHi everyone,My name is Agnieszka and I've been a vegetarian for almost a year now. I'm not so new to the diet but I feel mine is missing something - creativity. I really enjoy being a vegetarian, but I'm not good at cooking. I'm searching for easy and quick recipes to make my diet healthier. As soon as I learn an

interesting one I promise to share it with you all here. Until then, I'm looking forward to read those you post. Thank you in advance.Love xxxAgnieszka__________contact owner: -owner Mail list: Delivered-mailing list List-Un: - no flaming arguing or denigration of others allowedcontact owner with complaints regarding posting/list or anything else. Thank you.please share/comment/inform and mostly enjoy this list------

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Hi Jessica,

 

I also use a rice cooker . Thanks for the

, brightflower36

<brightflower36 wrote:

>

> Hi Veggie Folks,

>

> My name is Jessica. I've been vegetarian for ~16 years, since I was

13- when I discovered tofu and could prove to my mom I wouldn't die

without eating meat. I love to cook,however, I'm a student and so time

is usually in short supply. My favorite trick is to use my rice cooker

to make the entire meal- here is a sample of what i might do:

>

> 1 cup rice

> 1 cup frozen broccoli (or your favorite, peas also work well)

> 1 can garbanzo (or your favorite) beans

> 2 cups water

>

> Put everything in the rice cooker at the same time, push the button

down to cook- go study for your test, take a shower, whatever, come back

in about 30 minutes when the button pops up and eat. that's it! If you

have a little extra time you can put in some spices right at the

beginning with everything else. I like:

>

> 1 tsp fennel seeds

> 1tsp turmeric

> 1 tsp cumin

> 1/2 tsp cinnamon

>

> I live in Northwest Arkansas and would love to hear offline from

anyone in the area- i'd really like to find some more veggie friendly

restaurants in the area, and possibly folks to explore them with :)

>

> Bon Appetit,

> Jessica

> brightflower36

>

> wrote:

> There are 2 messages in this issue.

>

> Topics in this digest:

>

> 1. The Economics of a Bloodbath (Canadian baby seal slaughter)

> Rick Stevens

> 2. New member

> " agimari "

>

>

>

______________________

>

______________________

>

> Message: 1

> Sat, 4 Mar 2006 14:57:54 -0800 (PST)

> Rick Stevens

> The Economics of a Bloodbath (Canadian baby seal slaughter)

>

> The Economics of a Bloodbath

>

> Source >

> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11659086/site/newsweek/

>

> The annual baby-seal hunt is underway in Canada. Could

> devaluing these beautiful animals actually save them?

> Heather and Paul McCartney visited a seal pup in the

> Gulf of St. Lawrence on March 2

> Tom Hanson / AP

> Heather and Paul McCartney visited a seal pup in the

> Gulf of St. Lawrence on March 2

>

> By Patti Davis

> Newsweek

> Updated: 4:53 p.m. ET March 3, 2006

>

> March 3, 2006 - Despite mounting pressure to cancel

> the yearly seal hunt, in which hundreds of thousands

> of baby harp seals are killed simply for their pelts,

> the Canadian government is allowing the bloodbath to

> continue.

> Story continues below « advertisement

>

> Between 2003 and 2005, an estimated 1 million seal

> pups were slaughtered according to the Canadian

> Department of Fisheries and Oceans. The kill levels

> are twice as high as they were in the 1960s when

> international outrage succeeded in closing down

> several markets for seal pelts. The United States

> banned the import of seal products in 1972, and the

> European Union agreed to a partial ban. Canada

> eventually banned the killing of gwhitecoatsh (baby

> seals) in 1987. But those white coats are replaced by

> spotted gray coats in a matter of weeks--at which time

> the seals are eligible for the hunt.

>

> Last year alone, more than 315,000 seals were killed.

> Some environmentalists report that some of the animals

> are skinned alive and are left to die in agony.

> Canadafs claim that the hunt is regulated and

> monitored has been disputed every year by protesters

> who show up at the same time the sealers do and have

> witnessed what really goes on.

>

> The hunt begins in March after females give birth to

> pups with soft plush fur. That fur is the reason that

> the ice floes turn red with blood. The defenseless

> pups, who have no way to escape the sealersf clubs and

> rifles, are prized only for their pelts. Only for

> fashion statements.

>

> Some people have held out hope that with a new prime

> minister, the annual hunt can be stopped. Stephen

> Harper has replaced Paul Martin, who was an

> uncompromising supporter of the hunt. As yet, though,

> a regime change hasnft helped. There has been no

> indication that it will be canceled.

>

>

> However, there is some good news. Italy has banned the

> import of seal products, and the British government is

> strongly considering doing the same. Itfs clear that

> if compassion will not end this mass slaughter, maybe

> economics can. If no one is buying seal pelts, the

> pups (less than three months old) will not be clubbed,

> shot and skinned. Many might actually fulfill their

> life expectancy of 30 years.

>

> On Thursday, Paul and Heather McCartney visited the

> Gulf of St. Lawrence to bring worldwide attention to

> the pups whose fate is in the hands of the Canadian

> government. Working with the Humane Society of the

> United States, they have stated their commitment to

> make this a global issue.

>

> Predictably, sealers donft appreciate the high-profile

> attention the McCartneysf visit will bring to this

> issue. The Canadian press quoted Jack Troake, a

> 70-year-old sealer, who said, gItfs something wefve

> done for 500 years. Itfs helped to sustain us. We go

> to bed with a full stomach, a tight roof over our

> heads. Itfs part of our culture, our history.h

>

> Are we to actually believe that there is no other way

> for thousands of people to make a living? That all

> they are equipped to do is kill seal pups and skin

> them? And as far as traditions dating back hundreds of

> years, there are plenty of old traditions that have

> been banished as countries have grown more civilized:

> town lynchings, slavery, bleeding people with leeches,

> stoning women to death c to name a few.

>

> In the end, supporters of the seal hunt may find that

> their worst enemy is global warming. Unseasonably warm

> temperatures have prevented the formation of many ice

> floes, which is where females go to give birth. There

> is extremely low ice cover in both the Gulf of St.

> Lawrence and waters northeast of Newfoundland, both

> primary breeding sites.

>

> It would be nice if appealing to the hearts and

> compassion of human beings was enough. But some of

> earthfs inhabitants sadly only listen to money.

> Countries that are banning imports of seal products

> will probably make the most difference. Perhaps the

> only way to save these beautiful creatures is to

> render them economically worthless. Itfs a strange

> world when the only way to save something valuable is

> by devaluing it.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

______________________

>

______________________

>

> Message: 2

> Sat, 04 Mar 2006 23:20:31 -0000

> " agimari "

> New member

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> My name is Agnieszka and I've been a vegetarian for almost a year now.

> I'm not so new to the diet but I feel mine is missing something -

> creativity. I really enjoy being a vegetarian, but I'm not good at

> cooking. I'm searching for easy and quick recipes to make my diet

> healthier. As soon as I learn an interesting one I promise to share it

> with you all here.

>

> Until then, I'm looking forward to read those you post.

> Thank you in advance.

>

> Love xxx

>

> Agnieszka

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

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> no flaming arguing or denigration of others allowed

> contact owner with complaints regarding posting/list

> or anything else. Thank you.

> please share/comment/inform and mostly enjoy this list

>

>

>

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