Guest guest Posted October 15, 2002 Report Share Posted October 15, 2002 first off, welcome nicole second..good luck in yer endevours thirdly...sorry about the unsupportive partner...just be patient!! as fer info...tons of places... www.ivu.com www.vegsource.com www.earthsave.com www.veganessentials.com/ www.vegan.com/ where do you reside?? several companies make vegan cheeses, veganrella, that sort of thing..i dislike cheese so haven't paid much attention..i'm sure someone here can give ya good info, tho it would be easier if we knows where ya resides.. cheers fraggle " nic2576 " <nic2576 wrote: >Hi everyone! I have been a vegetarian for a year now, and am thinking >about going vegan. I have been with my bf for nine years, he is very >unsupportive of my decision to go vegetarian and I fear how he will >be if I decide to go vegan. Does any one know where I can get >information on being vegan? Also, Is there anywhere I can find a >cheddar cheese substitute? > >Nicole > > > > >To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2002 Report Share Posted October 16, 2002 Hi Nic, Did you try www.vegansociety.com? There's a great Vegan Shopper book you can buy for only £3.99 incl. p & p which lists everything you can eat and use. I eat some soya cheese called Scheese. Visit www.scheese.co.uk for info. When I first became vegan I tried Cheezly from Holland & Barrett but wasn't very keen on that. I found Scheese in the One Earth vegan shop in Birmingham and it's much, much nicer in my opinion. Congrats on being vegetarian, good luck on becoming vegan and hopefully your boyfriend will accept your change of lifestyle. he ought to anyway! <3 Shari - " nic2576 " <nic2576 Tuesday, October 15, 2002 3:51 PM new to group > Hi everyone! I have been a vegetarian for a year now, and am thinking > about going vegan. I have been with my bf for nine years, he is very > unsupportive of my decision to go vegetarian and I fear how he will > be if I decide to go vegan. Does any one know where I can get > information on being vegan? Also, Is there anywhere I can find a > cheddar cheese substitute? > > Nicole > > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2002 Report Share Posted October 16, 2002 Hi Nicole! Congrats on yer decision! I am going to assume that you got nicely bombarded with links to lots of vegan info already and not post any. But should I see not, I will give you a few links that have helped me later. But I did want to comment on the bf issue. Bottom line is this, you are the one who needs to make this decision and feel comfortable with it. It is your body and your life. At the same time tho, you need to realize the dramatic change this poses on the people who love you most and understand it is hard fer people to acceot not only change itself, but one as large as this. (Especially if you two live together) The best thing you can do, is sit down and talk with him. Explain to him why you feel this way and why you have made this choice. Try to do as much research as possible and if he has a question you cannot answer, ask him to sit at the puter with you and the two of you can research it together. Or go to the library and grab some books (also assuming you have gotten suggestions on this as well). I live with 2 big meat-eaters. It took me awhile to understand why this was so hard of a decision for dh to accept. I wondered what the heck did he care what I ate. After all, I was the one giving everything up! Then I realized the impact a deicion like this can make on a household, especially when only one person was making it. And I realized I needed to give just as much as I was asking for. So in your asking for him to accept your decision, realize that you to must try to accept his and understand his side. It really helps! But again, bottom-line is tht you need to decide for yourself in what you want to do! Just my two cents and hope I have helped! Ah yes, almost forgot! Cheddar cheese substitute as well as most cheese can be found in a lot of local grocery stores. Where are you located? Good Luck! nikki Nothing underneath the Sun merely happens; things are done. Arthur Guiterman , " nic2576 " <nic2576> wrote: > Hi everyone! I have been a vegetarian for a year now, and am thinking > about going vegan. I have been with my bf for nine years, he is very > unsupportive of my decision to go vegetarian and I fear how he will > be if I decide to go vegan. Does any one know where I can get > information on being vegan? Also, Is there anywhere I can find a > cheddar cheese substitute? > > Nicole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2002 Report Share Posted October 16, 2002 Hi Nic/Shari We were the other way round - tried Scheese and didn't like it - but like Cheezly :-) Jo > I eat some soya cheese called Scheese. Visit www.scheese.co.uk for info. > When I first became vegan I tried Cheezly from Holland & Barrett but wasn't > very keen on that. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release 03/10/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2002 Report Share Posted October 17, 2002 For sandwiches, Tofutti's slices are pretty tasty... I haven't seen cheddar, but they have .... um.... white cheese? Can't remember. Mozzarella maybe? Yes! And an orange-y yellow American cheese that you can pretend is cheddar if you like I think the stuff even melts! -- jojo Peter <Snowbow wrote: Hi Nic/ShariWe were the other way round - tried Scheese and didn't like it - but likeCheezly :-)Jo> I eat some soya cheese called Scheese. Visit www.scheese.co.uk for info.> When I first became vegan I tried Cheezly from Holland & Barrett butwasn't> very keen on that.---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release 03/10/02To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2002 Report Share Posted October 17, 2002 Where can you get Tofutti (in England)? Any well known stores? <3 Shari - jojo Thursday, October 17, 2002 1:13 AM Re: new to group For sandwiches, Tofutti's slices are pretty tasty... I haven't seen cheddar, but they have .... um.... white cheese? Can't remember. Mozzarella maybe? Yes! And an orange-y yellow American cheese that you can pretend is cheddar if you like I think the stuff even melts! -- jojo Peter <Snowbow wrote: Hi Nic/ShariWe were the other way round - tried Scheese and didn't like it - but likeCheezly :-)Jo> I eat some soya cheese called Scheese. Visit www.scheese.co.uk for info.> When I first became vegan I tried Cheezly from Holland & Barrett butwasn't> very keen on that.---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release 03/10/02To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2002 Report Share Posted October 17, 2002 The HFS (Greens) near to me at work (central London) sells them, so does Infinity Foods in Brighton. Not sure if I've seen them in Holly & Bolly - sorry, not too helpful that comment - never seen them in a supermarket tho some of them sell other Tofutti stuff. Viv "You'll Never Walk Alone with a Basenji" www.veganvillage.co.uk www.vegansociety.com BlackVelvetMagazine.Com [shari]Thursday, October 17, 2002 4:17 PM Subject: Re: new to group Where can you get Tofutti (in England)? Any well known stores? <3 Shari - jojo Thursday, October 17, 2002 1:13 AM Re: new to group For sandwiches, Tofutti's slices are pretty tasty... I haven't seen cheddar, but they have .... um.... white cheese? Can't remember. Mozzarella maybe? Yes! And an orange-y yellow American cheese that you can pretend is cheddar if you like I think the stuff even melts! -- jojo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:34:08 -0000, anthropology_folklore wrote > Hi, > My Mom is gluten intolerant and I have many of the same health > problems she has so I figured I'd go gluten free for a month or so > and see how I feel. I'm having a hard time finding resources, some > say spelt is okay, others say it's not. I'm wondering if anyone knows > of a good comprehensive list of what I can and can't eat? > Also, is there a good substitute for couscous? Cheryl I wouldn't use spelt if I were you. It is a form of wheat and does contain gluten. BL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2004 Report Share Posted February 28, 2004 * Exported from MasterCook * Vegetarian Split Pea Soup Recipe By : Serving Size : 8 Preparation Time :0:00 Categories : Chapt:Main Dishes Chapt:One Dish Meals Diet:Vegetarian Ing:Beans, Peas & Legumes Ing:Grains Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method -------- ------------ -------------------------------- 3 qts water 21 ozs split peas 5 ozs barley 1 c mushrooms 1 carrot 1 stalk celery 1/2 c low sodium soy sauce 1/4 tsp pepper 1/4 tsp mustard Bring water to boil in at least a 4 quart kettle. Add everything else and simmer over very low heat for at least 2 hours, stirring frequently. It burns easily so be careful. Source: " Weight Watchers " - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Per Serving (excluding unknown items): 333 Calories; 1g Fat (3.5% calories from fat); 22g Protein; 61g Carbohydrate; 22g Dietary Fiber; 0mg Cholesterol; 634mg Sodium. Exchanges: 4 Grain(Starch); 1 1/2 Lean Meat; 1/2 Vegetable; 0 Fat; 0 Other Carbohydrates. ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸, Barbara Zanzig, Kirkland, WA hertz, http://www.isomedia.com/homes/hertz/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2006 Report Share Posted March 12, 2006 Hi...I am not real new here but I do the same.I dont posyt much buut love the recipes! And the people are great! Welcome to you all!LOve and hugs,Barbara Lucy <lucyashes wrote: I just signed up and have already copied several recipes from just the first two newsletters. I'm going to love this group. Thanks, Lucy Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 HI Alev! I'm a sahm to our two veg homeschooled kids. Our daughter is almost 8, and our son is 10. We live in DC, moved her in June from NYC (from Los Angeles, from NYC, from AZ.. .from... but that's a long story! lol) anyway, I'm glad you found us! this is the place to find veg recipes! =) =) welcome, jenni On Mar 15, 2006, at 8:15 AM, redsoxfaninva04 wrote: > Hello, > > My name is Alev. I'm a stay-at-home mom to a 16-month-old daughter > named Liz. We live in the DC suburbs. I'm not a vegetarian, but have > many friends who are. I joined this board to get yummy, vegetarian > recipes. I also want to find healthy recipes for my daughter. She > loves vegetables, but I want to find other ways than just serving them > plain. > > Look forward to getting to know you. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 Hi, Brenda! It's good to have new people on here. Isn't it wonderful what eating raw food can do to get rid of health problems? As for your allergies, you are in luck since none of the three are required or even recommended. I am trying to use more " earth friendly " things in my home, too. It's quite a process, isn't it? Tommie http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com rawfood , " berrywell " <berrywell wrote: > > Hello to all. I am very excited to have found this group-I have just > been poking around in the files section and want to thank you for all > of the valuable info. I am 42 years old, many chronic health issues, > and started raw/organic food diet 8 months ago. Recently, I started > eliminating other toxic chemicals from personal care items and > cleaning products. I have been making everything homemade, and look > forward to learning and sharing with this group. I am allergic to > wheat/dairy/eggs. > Brenda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 Hi Wendy, I'm down here in Georgia too. I also homeschooled, but just the last son. Great work, there! I know what it is like having non-veg living in the same house. Double dinners every night. Ugh!!! Anyway, welcome to the garden of earthly delights. Lightning is bad here so I am offline till it passes!!! Jeanne in Georgia Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 -Hello Mrs. Wendy, I have the same problem i have just started eating vegetarian meals, my daughter and her father are serious meat eaters, this morning was a first, they both actually dranked a blueberry smoothie that I was making for myself and they loved it. Tamika and Joe didn't notice that I had switched to organic milk -- In , " Wendy Samper " <Mom4God wrote: > > Hello, > I am new to the Vegetarian Group. I am almost 100% on a Vegetarian Diet but live with the rest of my household not interested. I have always made some of our meals meatless. But it seems that I am the only one who cares about the outcome. I want to be healthy and to learn how to cook a vegan diet without the loss of good tasting food. I am experimenting with soy products and finding them to be great!. I work midnights and also homeschool so I do not always get to my email. But wanted to let you know I was here. I live in Georgia but grew up in Minnesota. > > God bless, > Wendy > > Wife to Luie, Mom to Steven, Isaac, Josh and Joey Mother in Law to Michele and Grandmother to Makayla. > > -IM: MomforGod > AOL IM WendyJS123 > > I love to garden, make soap, tye-dye, raise organic foods; my hobbies are quilting, crocheting, sewing, and cooking. We homeschool and live in the Country. I work full time and have a home business. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 well organic milk is in the heart, not in the taste ;O) hugs, Chanda - jackiekelley2003 Saturday, July 29, 2006 7:05 PM Re: New to Group -Hello Mrs. Wendy, I have the same problem i have just started eating vegetarian meals, my daughter and her father are serious meat eaters, this morning was a first, they both actually dranked a blueberry smoothie that I was making for myself and they loved it. Tamika and Joe didn't notice that I had switched to organic milk -- In , " Wendy Samper " <Mom4God wrote: > > Hello, > I am new to the Vegetarian Group. I am almost 100% on a Vegetarian Diet but live with the rest of my household not interested. I have always made some of our meals meatless. But it seems that I am the only one who cares about the outcome. I want to be healthy and to learn how to cook a vegan diet without the loss of good tasting food. I am experimenting with soy products and finding them to be great!. I work midnights and also homeschool so I do not always get to my email. But wanted to let you know I was here. I live in Georgia but grew up in Minnesota. > > God bless, > Wendy > > Wife to Luie, Mom to Steven, Isaac, Josh and Joey Mother in Law to Michele and Grandmother to Makayla. > > -IM: MomforGod > AOL IM WendyJS123 > > I love to garden, make soap, tye-dye, raise organic foods; my hobbies are quilting, crocheting, sewing, and cooking. We homeschool and live in the Country. I work full time and have a home business. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 Welcome, Debbie. Go to the main site, go to files, go to recipes and you will be well on your way to a vegetarian or vegan diet. Both types of recipes are in there. Marilyn Daub mcdaub Vanceburg, KY My Cats Knead Me!! - Reed Deborah Monday, August 07, 2006 10:55 PM New to group Hi, I am new to the group. I am interested in changing my diet to one that is plant-based. I recently began reading the book " Hope's Edge: The Next Diet for a Small Planet " by Frances Moore Lappe and Anne Lappe. I think this is a much more efficient way of eating and it is so good for you as inherent vitamins and nutrients have not been processed out of the food (be it through manufacturing or through an animal). Now with gas being $3 a gallon, I think it is very important to consider energy efficiency in all aspects of our lives. This is a very healthy and beneficial way. Thanks, Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 welcome to the group Debbie! blessings, Chanda - Reed Deborah Monday, August 07, 2006 10:55 PM New to group Hi, I am new to the group. I am interested in changing my diet to one that is plant-based. I recently began reading the book " Hope's Edge: The Next Diet for a Small Planet " by Frances Moore Lappe and Anne Lappe. I think this is a much more efficient way of eating and it is so good for you as inherent vitamins and nutrients have not been processed out of the food (be it through manufacturing or through an animal). Now with gas being $3 a gallon, I think it is very important to consider energy efficiency in all aspects of our lives. This is a very healthy and beneficial way. Thanks, Debbie Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/410 - Release 8/5/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 Hello HCC and welcome to our group! That's wonderful that you're contemplating going vegetarian again. We have lots of tasty low-cal recipes in our files so check them out! That's good that you're seeking good food to eat; it's so easy to eat heavy items as vegetarians, such as lots of pasta, potatoes, etc. My partner and I make those things every once in a while but try & focus more on tofu, beans, grains and vegetables. Again, welcome! Cindi Lawyer Girl <honeycarmelcutie wrote: Nickname: HoneyCarmelCutie or HCC Age: 20's Region: Michigan (detroit area) Status: Working on becoming a veggie. I've been thinking about this for a few months now. I would like any recipes/tips you may have. I have stopped eating meat before but due to lack of veggie choices returned to eating meat. Im trying to ween myself off this time. Also I am looking to lose some major pounds so low fat/cal and very tasty recipes are encouraged! Thanks !-HCC " Dream as if you will live forever....Live as if you will die Today! " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Hi Hope and welcome to the group. Maybe you could mention on the group your particular reasons for becoming vegetarian - you said on your membership request that you were concerned about cloning of animals, a highly worthwhile reason but one we don't hear about often. There are so many reasons for choosing a vegetarian diet, some people like to go on eating things that resemble the foods they were used to having whilst enjoying the advantage of a vegetarian diet, whereas others really want to avoid anything that reminds them of meat! Everyone to his/her taste... Now you're a member you have access to the Messages section which you can browse to see the conversations that have been going on on the list, also the Files section with a magnificent selection of recipes to suit all occasions. If you've sampled some of the recipes you will soon realize there's no reason at all to worry about the taste of vegetarian foods, all are delicious and before long you won't be able to imagine eating non-vegetarian food again! A few words you've probably come across - " Vegetarian " (or " vegetarian ovo-lacto " ) means not eating anything obtained by killing an animal (or bird, or fish, or fowl) whereas " vegan " excludes all products of animals e.g. dairy products, eggs, honey and so on. Someone on a vegetarian diet (ovo-lacto) can obtain protein from eggs and/or dairy products, and there are many other high protein sources suitable for a vegetarian or vegan diet, e.g. nuts, pulses (peas, lentils, various sorts of beans), soya products (e.g. tofu, tempeh). If you search the web you can probably find a lot more. Normally we say we get enough protein from ordinary food, but if a medical issue is involved it might be worth taking specialist advice too (ideally from a vegetarian-friendly doctor!). Wishing you success in 2007 with your vegetarian diet, and a lot of pleasure with the group! Piers (co-owner ) - " Hope " <hope46224 Monday, January 01, 2007 9:46 AM New to Group > Hello Everyone!! > > I am new to the group. I hope to gain alot of knowledge about being a > vegetarian through this group. I will need to have a high protein > intake as I am a Bariatric patient. > > What are some really high protein foods in the vegetarian/vegan > world? I am really worried about the taste of vegetarian foods. > > If you are a vegetarian why would you want to eat something (i.e. hot > dog, hamburger, etc.)that looks like the real food, but isn't if you > are against eating meat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Hello Hope, I think Piers did a good job of explaining that there are a lot of protein sources for vegetarians in the foods they choose. Also one can buy protein powder to add to drinks. I've never purchased it myself but I would consider it if I thought I needed more protein in my diet. You mentioned veggie burgers and veggie dogs. Its not like that is all we eat as vegetarians and have one or the other for dinner every night. Occasionally when I'm out at a restaurant I do enjoy a veggie burger with a salad on the side. We are trying to slim down here afer all so no to the fries it usually comes with. Also depending on the sauces used on the veggie burger I'll ask for a burger without the sauce. Sometimes there is nothing else on the menu suitable for a vegetarian. As for veggie dogs. I've been a vegetarian for over 20 years. Back when I was a kid I never liked hot dogs and when veggie dogs came out I did try them but I found them gross. Reminded me too much of a regular hot dog. However, if I am really hungry I will eat one. The time comes to mind when we were at a dude ranch a few years ago and they knew of my vegetarian needs. We came back from a morning of riding and I was famished. And there they were waiting for me: veggie dogs. As Piers said, everyone has their own tastes. When I was a kid I always liked eating a chocolate Mickey Mouse for my Easter candy. No chocolate bunnies for me. We all became vegetarians for many reasons. Some of us might like meat and want to have it but resist the temptation for the reasons we became a vegetarian, so the soy products out there that are meat substitutes can help bridge that gap. But that's not all we eat. I buy frozen veggie burgers from time to time. I don't have any in the house right now as I'm focusing on losing weight with a healthy diet. I like them, but once in a while is good for me. Check out the recipes section. I'm sure you'll find lots of great tasting new meals to try. If you're worried about a vegetarian diet being too bland you can experiment with all kinds of different spices. I tend to prefer Caribbean and Mexican influenced meals and there are lots of vegetarian choices. Good luck to you. Cheryl , " Hope " <hope46224 wrote: > > Hello Everyone!! > > I am new to the group. I hope to gain alot of knowledge about being a > vegetarian through this group. I will need to have a high protein > intake as I am a Bariatric patient. > > What are some really high protein foods in the vegetarian/vegan > world? I am really worried about the taste of vegetarian foods. > > If you are a vegetarian why would you want to eat something (i.e. hot > dog, hamburger, etc.)that looks like the real food, but isn't if you > are against eating meat? > > Hope =) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Piers, I am a relatively new vegetarian. I was worried, also, with getting enough protein. I remember reading (somewhere) that combining two of the following you get a complete protein : nuts, legumes, grains. Therefore I often try to eat things like oatmeal and nuts, beans and rice, curry with nuts over rice, etc. Is this approach something I should continue? Marie Piers Clement <piers_clement wrote: Hi Hope and welcome to the group. Maybe you could mention on the group your particular reasons for becoming vegetarian - you said on your membership request that you were concerned about cloning of animals, a highly worthwhile reason but one we don't hear about often. There are so many reasons for choosing a vegetarian diet, some people like to go on eating things that resemble the foods they were used to having whilst enjoying the advantage of a vegetarian diet, whereas others really want to avoid anything that reminds them of meat! Everyone to his/her taste... Now you're a member you have access to the Messages section which you can browse to see the conversations that have been going on on the list, also the Files section with a magnificent selection of recipes to suit all occasions. If you've sampled some of the recipes you will soon realize there's no reason at all to worry about the taste of vegetarian foods, all are delicious and before long you won't be able to imagine eating non-vegetarian food again! A few words you've probably come across - " Vegetarian " (or " vegetarian ovo-lacto " ) means not eating anything obtained by killing an animal (or bird, or fish, or fowl) whereas " vegan " excludes all products of animals e.g. dairy products, eggs, honey and so on. Someone on a vegetarian diet (ovo-lacto) can obtain protein from eggs and/or dairy products, and there are many other high protein sources suitable for a vegetarian or vegan diet, e.g. nuts, pulses (peas, lentils, various sorts of beans), soya products (e.g. tofu, tempeh). If you search the web you can probably find a lot more. Normally we say we get enough protein from ordinary food, but if a medical issue is involved it might be worth taking specialist advice too (ideally from a vegetarian-friendly doctor!). Wishing you success in 2007 with your vegetarian diet, and a lot of pleasure with the group! Piers (co-owner ) - " Hope " <hope46224 Monday, January 01, 2007 9:46 AM New to Group > Hello Everyone!! > > I am new to the group. I hope to gain alot of knowledge about being a > vegetarian through this group. I will need to have a high protein > intake as I am a Bariatric patient. > > What are some really high protein foods in the vegetarian/vegan > world? I am really worried about the taste of vegetarian foods. > > If you are a vegetarian why would you want to eat something (i.e. hot > dog, hamburger, etc.)that looks like the real food, but isn't if you > are against eating meat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Hi Piers! Thanks so much for responding and so quickly too!! I was watching the news a couple of days ago and heard the government has OK'd for meat from cloned animals will be stocked on grocery shelves without an advisory label. My personal opinion, if it is cloned it is not from God. Therefore shall not pass over my lips. You have to wonder what the US Government is up to and what they are really experimenting!! I never realized how much meat and/or meat products humans consume!! I have always just thought of meat as " meat from the store " , not from the actual animal. I am excited about taking on this new lifestyle however I am struggling more than I thought I would. I am torn because the New Testament in the bible states it is ok to eat what God has provided for us. Then I think of all the times when my family and I are driving somewhere and we pass a farm. Usually I am half hanging out of the window screaming " HI " to the cows, seriously. Most of the time the cows look at me like I am NUTS and my kids make fun of me, but I have a fantastic time doing it!!! As far as choosing the vegetarian slimming lifestyle, I thought there is no better choice to eat healthy!! Lots of fruits and veggies as opposed to processed foods and meats. I will keep plugging away at it!! Hope =) P.S. Why is it that vegans do not eat fish? Jesus provided fish and loaves to the masses. Just trying to understand different views of life. Please don't think I am an idiot!! , Piers Clement <piers_clement wrote: > > Hi Hope and welcome to the group. > > Maybe you could mention on the group your particular reasons for becoming > vegetarian - you said on your membership request that you were concerned > about cloning of animals, a highly worthwhile reason but one we don't hear > about often. There are so many reasons for choosing a vegetarian diet, some > people like to go on eating things that resemble the foods they were used to > having whilst enjoying the advantage of a vegetarian diet, whereas others > really want to avoid anything that reminds them of meat! Everyone to his/her > taste... > > Now you're a member you have access to the Messages section which you can > browse to see the conversations that have been going on on the list, also > the Files section with a magnificent selection of recipes to suit all > occasions. If you've sampled some of the recipes you will soon realize > there's no reason at all to worry about the taste of vegetarian foods, all > are delicious and before long you won't be able to imagine eating > non-vegetarian food again! > > A few words you've probably come across - " Vegetarian " (or " vegetarian > ovo-lacto " ) means not eating anything obtained by killing an animal (or > bird, or fish, or fowl) whereas " vegan " excludes all products of animals > e.g. dairy products, eggs, honey and so on. > > Someone on a vegetarian diet (ovo-lacto) can obtain protein from eggs and/or > dairy products, and there are many other high protein sources suitable for a > vegetarian or vegan diet, e.g. nuts, pulses (peas, lentils, various sorts of > beans), soya products (e.g. tofu, tempeh). If you search the web you can > probably find a lot more. Normally we say we get enough protein from > ordinary food, but if a medical issue is involved it might be worth taking > specialist advice too (ideally from a vegetarian-friendly doctor!). > > Wishing you success in 2007 with your vegetarian diet, and a lot of pleasure > with the group! > > Piers (co-owner ) > > - > " Hope " <hope46224 > > Monday, January 01, 2007 9:46 AM > New to Group > > > > Hello Everyone!! > > > > I am new to the group. I hope to gain alot of knowledge about being a > > vegetarian through this group. I will need to have a high protein > > intake as I am a Bariatric patient. > > > > What are some really high protein foods in the vegetarian/vegan > > world? I am really worried about the taste of vegetarian foods. > > > > If you are a vegetarian why would you want to eat something (i.e. hot > > dog, hamburger, etc.)that looks like the real food, but isn't if you > > are against eating meat? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Hi Marie, As I've suggested, if you eat a " normal " selection of foods you should get sufficient protein without looking for any supplements - unless there's a special health reason for doing so. On the other hand there's nothing wrong with the way of eating you suggest, sounds admirable. In the long run you'll find your own way, eating the food you're comfortable with and finding ways of combining them that you find most agreeable and convenient. One comment though - you may have read the message " Food for thought " that is automatically sent to the list every month. We are a slimming list and nuts are among the foods you should not eat too much in a slimming diet. Personally I eat nuts as a constituent of my (self-made) muesli every 2 days (the other days it's porridge) but don't look out for them any other time. Piers - " marie selders " <s3ld3rs Monday, January 01, 2007 9:45 PM Re: New to Group > Piers, > I am a relatively new vegetarian. I was worried, also, with getting enough protein. I remember reading (somewhere) that combining two of the following you get a complete protein : nuts, legumes, grains. Therefore I often try to eat things like oatmeal and nuts, beans and rice, curry with nuts over rice, etc. Is this approach something I should continue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Hi Hope, Thanks for your mail. I can imagine you find a conflict between what you intuitively choose as diet and what your religious beliefs might tell you, but this is something you will no doubt figure out yourself in the end, techically that's what they call a " cognitive dissonance " . I can't really advise you on this either, as my views would be quiet different - if anyone else wants to take this matter up with you I suggest they do it off-list. We really aren't set up to discuss religion on the list, cos if you do so you're bound to upset someone! And, there's so much to talk about with all these marvellous recipes and questions about food choice! Piers - " Hope " <hope46224 Tuesday, January 02, 2007 6:18 AM Re: New to Group > Hi Piers! > > Thanks so much for responding and so quickly too!! > > I was watching the news a couple of days ago and heard the government > has OK'd for meat from cloned animals will be stocked on grocery > shelves without an advisory label. My personal opinion, if it is > cloned it is not from God. Therefore shall not pass over my lips. > You have to wonder what the US Government is up to and what they are > really experimenting!! > > I never realized how much meat and/or meat products humans consume!! > I have always just thought of meat as " meat from the store " , not from > the actual animal. > > I am excited about taking on this new lifestyle however I am > struggling more than I thought I would. I am torn because the New > Testament in the bible states it is ok to eat what God has provided > for us. Then I think of all the times when my family and I are > driving somewhere and we pass a farm. Usually I am half hanging out > of the window screaming " HI " to the cows, seriously. Most of the > time the cows look at me like I am NUTS and my kids make fun of me, > but I have a fantastic time doing it!!! > > As far as choosing the vegetarian slimming lifestyle, I thought there > is no better choice to eat healthy!! Lots of fruits and veggies as > opposed to processed foods and meats. > > I will keep plugging away at it!! > > Hope =) > > P.S. Why is it that vegans do not eat fish? Jesus provided fish and > loaves to the masses. Just trying to understand different views of > life. Please don't think I am an idiot!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Hello Hope and welcome to our group. I'm Cindi, co-owner. High protein foods would include beans, soy/tofu and nuts. However, nuts are high in calories so you may want to limit your intake. As far as eating " fake meat " ..personally, I don't eat much of that stuff. Sometimes we'll have a veggie patty for an easy meal. Sometimes we'll bring them to a family BBQ. In our house, we focus more on whole grains, vegetables and tofu as our main ingredients. Again, welcome! Cindi Hope <hope46224 wrote: Hello Everyone!! I am new to the group. I hope to gain alot of knowledge about being a vegetarian through this group. I will need to have a high protein intake as I am a Bariatric patient. What are some really high protein foods in the vegetarian/vegan world? I am really worried about the taste of vegetarian foods. If you are a vegetarian why would you want to eat something (i.e. hot dog, hamburger, etc.)that looks like the real food, but isn't if you are against eating meat? Hope =) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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