Guest guest Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 ah...apple juice. here's a question...how many people here won't use filtered apple juices, considering them non-vegan? i know everyone's perceptions of the boundaries of veganism are different, so i don't want to get into a flame here...i was just curious. i don't know any other vegans than my husband to ask these questions of. a lot of vegans won't use filtered apple juices because they're filtered the same way most beers, wines, balsamic vinegars, etc. are, that is, through cow stomachs, etc. i know that some vegans have the standard that as long as there's no animal product IN the food, they will use it, and so they don't object to standard table sugar, etc. other vegans won't use anything that's been produced in any way through an animal product (although i think we all agree that there is no real purity in veganism if you live in this world, like if a product has been shipped in a truck with tires, somebody extremely purist could consider that non-vegan...). so i'm just curious...anybody have standards like that for things like apple juice, vinegar, etc.? as for us, we didn't used to because it definitely seemed nitpicky because there's just no way to avoid some things. but then we decided, if we know that something is produced through animal exploitation, or as a by-product of the system, and there's a reasonable alternative (like buying unfiltered apple juice, evaporated cane sugar, etc.), then there's no real excuse not to do so. but then again, my husband is a waldorf teacher, and probably our kids will attend a waldorf school and waldorf education impresses a lot on " natural " fabrics, one of which is wool. so a lot of their dolls and stuff are made out of wool. we pondered on that for a while and decided that if he's going to be in a school like that there's really no way to keep him from it, but we won't buy or use it ourselves, and we'll always let them know why. that's our take on it, but i know a lot of other people probably agree that there's a limit to how " pure " you can be and set their limits somewhere else. so...what's the consensus? and do you have different standards for your kids (like allowing more or less not-completely-vegan foods or activities)? like i said, not wanting to get into a more-vegan-than-thou discussion -- i get flamed on pretty regularly for having companion animals, myself -- just wanting to open up a friendly discussion about our standards for our kids. chandelle' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 Wouldn't life be soooo much simpler if we could all eat what we grew ourselves and swapped with our neighbors for things they had and we didn't? My whole reason for vegetarianism is to try and avoid mass-produced foods. > so i'm just >curious...anybody have standards like that for things like apple juice, >vinegar, etc.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 I second this! I like to know what we are and what we aren't eating, although I still mess up sometimes. Katie http://frugalveggiemama.blogspot.com darranged wrote: Wouldn't life be soooo much simpler if we could all eat what we grew ourselves and swapped with our neighbors for things they had and we didn't? My whole reason for vegetarianism is to try and avoid mass-produced foods. Katie http://frugalveggiemama.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 For things like vinegar, wine, white sugar, etc, I check with the company about their processing. If they use gelatin, eggs, isinglass, bone char or the like, I go for a different brand. For example, Bionaturae says they don't use any animal products to clarify their vinegar. Hain says they don't use bone char to filter their powdered sugar. Frey vineyards doesn't use animal products for clarofying their wines, and the list goes on. I do make an eception when eating out for things like the sugar. I didn't at first, but I still won't by it and bring it in the home if it's bone char processed. (I usually make my own apple juice for the rare times when I have it.) --Allison SAHM to Wil, 2 years old, conceived in veganism , earthmother <earthmother213 wrote: > > ah...apple juice. here's a question...how many people here won't use > filtered apple juices, considering them non-vegan? i know everyone's > perceptions of the boundaries of veganism are different, so i don't want to > get into a flame here...i was just curious. i don't know any other vegans > than my husband to ask these questions of. > > a lot of vegans won't use filtered apple juices because they're filtered the > same way most beers, wines, balsamic vinegars, etc. are, that is, through > cow stomachs, etc. i know that some vegans have the standard that as long > as there's no animal product IN the food, they will use it, and so they > don't object to standard table sugar, etc. other vegans won't use anything > that's been produced in any way through an animal product (although i think > we all agree that there is no real purity in veganism if you live in this > world, like if a product has been shipped in a truck with tires, somebody > extremely purist could consider that non-vegan...). so i'm just > curious...anybody have standards like that for things like apple juice, > vinegar, etc.? > > as for us, we didn't used to because it definitely seemed nitpicky because > there's just no way to avoid some things. but then we decided, if we know > that something is produced through animal exploitation, or as a by-product > of the system, and there's a reasonable alternative (like buying unfiltered > apple juice, evaporated cane sugar, etc.), then there's no real excuse not > to do so. but then again, my husband is a waldorf teacher, and probably our > kids will attend a waldorf school and waldorf education impresses a lot on > " natural " fabrics, one of which is wool. so a lot of their dolls and stuff > are made out of wool. we pondered on that for a while and decided that if > he's going to be in a school like that there's really no way to keep him > from it, but we won't buy or use it ourselves, and we'll always let them > know why. that's our take on it, but i know a lot of other people probably > agree that there's a limit to how " pure " you can be and set their limits > somewhere else. so...what's the consensus? and do you have different > standards for your kids (like allowing more or less not-completely-vegan > foods or activities)? > > like i said, not wanting to get into a more-vegan-than-thou discussion -- i > get flamed on pretty regularly for having companion animals, myself -- just > wanting to open up a friendly discussion about our standards for our kids. > > chandelle' > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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