Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Concerns about family health risk and animal testing are leading me to get rid of my non-stick pans. Here are some articles I dug up: --- Excerpt from a recent Time article on Teflon: " Unfortunately, it turns out that when Teflon is heated to over 600°, the coating can break down and release a chemical called perfluorooctanoic acid, or PFOA. The fumes can be fatal to pet birds. In humans, DuPont acknowledges, they can cause a reversible flulike condition called polymer-fume fever, first noted in the company's labs. In animals, though, PFOA can cause cancer, immune-system damage and death. And about 95% of all Americans have traces of PFOA in their blood. " Full article, including info on million-dollar settlement: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1200779,00.html --- The Teflon Precedent DuPont to Be Fined for Toxic Chemical in Teflon The U.S. EPA has announced it will levy a substantial fine -- perhaps the largest environmental fine in U.S. history -- against chemical giant DuPont, charging the company with illegally concealing evidence that a chemical used to make Teflon endangered its employees and the public. http://www.grist.org/news/daily/2004/07/13/teflon/index.html --- And here's what " Ask Umbra " has to say about Teflon: http://www.grist.org/advice/ask/2006/02/27/registries/index.html --- Personally, I'm noticing that the non-stick products in my home all tend to flake away -- leaving me to wonder where that non-stick coating is ending up. Inside me or my family? When faced with conflicting information I tend to apply the precautionary principle and opt for the natural choice. So, I am playing it safe and getting rid of the stuff. ~Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 i've been concerned about that too. but it seems almost impossible to buy pans without teflon. ideas? On 6/15/06, Paul Falvo <pfalvo wrote: > > Concerns about family health risk and animal testing are leading me to > get rid of my non-stick pans. Here are some articles I dug up: > > --- > > Excerpt from a recent Time article on Teflon: > > " > Unfortunately, it turns out that when Teflon is heated to over 600°, the > coating can break down and release a chemical called perfluorooctanoic > acid, or PFOA. The fumes can be fatal to pet birds. In humans, DuPont > acknowledges, they can cause a reversible flulike condition called > polymer-fume fever, first noted in the company's labs. In animals, > though, PFOA can cause cancer, immune-system damage and death. And about > 95% of all Americans have traces of PFOA in their blood. > " > > Full article, including info on million-dollar settlement: > http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1200779,00.html > > --- > > The Teflon Precedent > > DuPont to Be Fined for Toxic Chemical in Teflon > > The U.S. EPA has announced it will levy a substantial fine -- perhaps > the largest environmental fine in U.S. history -- against chemical giant > DuPont, charging the company with illegally concealing evidence that a > chemical used to make Teflon endangered its employees and the public. > http://www.grist.org/news/daily/2004/07/13/teflon/index.html > > --- > > And here's what " Ask Umbra " has to say about Teflon: > http://www.grist.org/advice/ask/2006/02/27/registries/index.html > > --- > > Personally, I'm noticing that the non-stick products in my home all tend > to flake away -- leaving me to wonder where that non-stick coating is > ending up. Inside me or my family? When faced with conflicting > information I tend to apply the precautionary principle and opt for the > natural choice. So, I am playing it safe and getting rid of the stuff. > > ~Paul > > -- see of pictures of isaiah at www.futurerevolutionary.blogspot.com. see more pictures at www.namesanddatesandtimes.blogspot.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 We¹ve just switched to iron pans. Gives us a bit of extra iron in our diet, too. Should have done it sooner. Tracy On 6/15/06 1:09 PM, " earthmother " <earthmother213 wrote: > i've been concerned about that too. but it seems almost impossible to buy > pans without teflon. ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 I think cast iron and steel are the way to go. Problem is that appliances like bread makers and rice cookers seem to come with no-stick surfaces. I was surprised to see even my coffee mug appears to be no-stick! I am calling it " no-stick " b/c probably unfair to target Teflon when there are other brands out there. ~Paul Steve & Tracy Schad wrote: > We¹ve just switched to iron pans. Gives us a bit of extra iron in our diet, > too. Should have done it sooner. > > Tracy > > On 6/15/06 1:09 PM, " earthmother " <earthmother213 wrote: > >>i've been concerned about that too. but it seems almost impossible to buy >>pans without teflon. ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Cast iron frying pans (stainless steel fry pans stick too much) and stainless steel pots. Jacqueline http://adhdnme.blogspot.com _____ On Behalf Of earthmother June 15, 2006 3:10 PM Re: more on Teflon i've been concerned about that too. but it seems almost impossible to buy pans without teflon. ideas? On 6/15/06, Paul Falvo <pfalvo (AT) chebucto (DOT) <pfalvo%40chebucto.ca> ca> wrote: > > Concerns about family health risk and animal testing are leading me to > get rid of my non-stick pans. Here are some articles I dug up: > > --- > > Excerpt from a recent Time article on Teflon: > > " > Unfortunately, it turns out that when Teflon is heated to over 600°, the > coating can break down and release a chemical called perfluorooctanoic > acid, or PFOA. The fumes can be fatal to pet birds. In humans, DuPont > acknowledges, they can cause a reversible flulike condition called > polymer-fume fever, first noted in the company's labs. In animals, > though, PFOA can cause cancer, immune-system damage and death. And about > 95% of all Americans have traces of PFOA in their blood. > " > > Full article, including info on million-dollar settlement: > http://www.time. <http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1200779,00.html> com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1200779,00.html > > --- > > The Teflon Precedent > > DuPont to Be Fined for Toxic Chemical in Teflon > > The U.S. EPA has announced it will levy a substantial fine -- perhaps > the largest environmental fine in U.S. history -- against chemical giant > DuPont, charging the company with illegally concealing evidence that a > chemical used to make Teflon endangered its employees and the public. > http://www.grist. <http://www.grist.org/news/daily/2004/07/13/teflon/index.html> org/news/daily/2004/07/13/teflon/index.html > > --- > > And here's what " Ask Umbra " has to say about Teflon: > http://www.grist. <http://www.grist.org/advice/ask/2006/02/27/registries/index.html> org/advice/ask/2006/02/27/registries/index.html > > --- > > Personally, I'm noticing that the non-stick products in my home all tend > to flake away -- leaving me to wonder where that non-stick coating is > ending up. Inside me or my family? When faced with conflicting > information I tend to apply the precautionary principle and opt for the > natural choice. So, I am playing it safe and getting rid of the stuff. > > ~Paul > > -- see of pictures of isaiah at www.futurerevolutionary.blogspot.com. see more pictures at www.namesanddatesandtimes.blogspot.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 While not discounting any concerns, it is also unlikely that any of these surfaces will be heated to more than 600 degrees. Jacqueline http://adhdnme.blogspot.com _____ On Behalf Of Paul Falvo June 15, 2006 7:43 PM Re: more on Teflon I think cast iron and steel are the way to go. Problem is that appliances like bread makers and rice cookers seem to come with no-stick surfaces. I was surprised to see even my coffee mug appears to be no-stick! I am calling it " no-stick " b/c probably unfair to target Teflon when there are other brands out there. ~Paul Steve & Tracy Schad wrote: > We¹ve just switched to iron pans. Gives us a bit of extra iron in our diet, > too. Should have done it sooner. > > Tracy > > On 6/15/06 1:09 PM, " earthmother " <earthmother213@ <earthmother213%40gmail.com> gmail.com> wrote: > >>i've been concerned about that too. but it seems almost impossible to buy >>pans without teflon. ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 Not sure where you have looked for your pans. All my cookware is teflon free. I buy cast iron and stanless steel cookware. Also some earthenware baking things. Let me know if you need brands. Laura in MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 I would be interested in brands of stainless steel cookware. Thanks! - VAP79 Saturday, June 17, 2006 12:15 PM Re: more on Teflon Not sure where you have looked for your pans. All my cookware is teflon free. I buy cast iron and stanless steel cookware. Also some earthenware baking things. Let me know if you need brands. Laura in MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 What I really want is a BREADMAKER that is not teflon, ie the baking pan does not have the non-stick coating. Any ideas? [We've got a Black & Decker but the coating is peeling from the paddle]. Sounds like the world is catching up: " Non-stick chemicals to be limited " Ottawa is moving on two fronts to ban or place strict limits on a family of widely used chemicals that poses a risk to human health and the environment.Federal regulators will block the import into Canada of newly developed products such as grease and water repellents that break down into long-chain perfluorinated carboxylic acids, a group of contaminants linked to cancer and altered fetal development. <http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20060620.BAN20/EmailTPStory/TP\ National> VAP79 wrote: > Not sure where you have looked for your pans. > All my cookware is teflon free. > I buy cast iron and stanless steel cookware. Also some earthenware baking > things. > Let me know if you need brands. > Laura in MD > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Oh no - not the breadmaker too! I got rid of all my teflon cookware, including my wok, but didn't even think about my breadmaker! I wonder how much of a risk is my breadmaker if I use it just once a week? We'll probably never know. I think the bottom line to all of these health cautions is: Slow down and live simply. It seems that the more we try to cater to a " I want it now with less work " mentality by using some of our modern day conveniences, the more we have to worry about slowly killing ourselves! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 Actually, while in vet school, we discussed the NUMEROUS cases of bird deaths due to overheating of teflon pans. With their air sacs, birds are more sensitive to gases than people (think canaries in coal mines). Still, many people store their pans in the oven, forget they are there and turn the oven all the way on to preheat. Also, if there are any scratches on the surface of the teflon, it degrades much faster and at much lower temperatures. Now some of the newer research shows there is so much of this chemical in the air (it is released in manufacture and other industry), that everyone in a developed country has it in their body, even if she has never eaten food cooked from a teflon coated pan. Scary! Carrol , " Jacq " <jacqcote wrote: > > While not discounting any concerns, it is also unlikely that any of these > surfaces will be heated to more than 600 degrees. > > > > Jacqueline > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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