Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 Hi everyone, I've been a vegetarian since I was 13 years old (I'm now 36) and just recently had my first child. I was at lunch today with friends and they told my husband and me that it was not healthy to raise a child vegetarian as it has been proven that " young children need animal protein " . I don't buy this, of course, and explained how they (like me) can get enough protein, including the fact that I was vegetarian throughout my pregnancy and managed to grow a nearly 9 lb healthy baby boy. My husband is not a vegetarian and I'm concerned that these comments were concerning to him. Does anyone have thoughts/know of resources to show that a vegetarian diet is fine for a young child to be raised that way? Thanks, Meredith Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 Here is the position paper from the American Dietetic Association. There is an abundance of scientific evidence showing that it is healthy, probably healthier, to raise kids vegetarian, than as meat-eaters. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever showing that kids need animal protein. http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/ada1993.htm Some more research: http://www.vrg.org/family/adatranscript.htm From the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine: http://www.pcrm.org/health/veginfo/vegetarian_kids.html http://www.pcrm.org/health/veginfo/veg_diets_for_children.html And several respected physicians have written extensively on why kids should not be exposed to cowmilk products. Another article: http://www.andrews.edu/NUFS/Vegan%20Children.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 Also there is tons of protein in most everything we eat. No shortage if you eat a good diet. Judy - leena Sunday, July 23, 2006 10:16 PM RE: Is it healthy to raise a child on a vegetarian diet? Here is the position paper from the American Dietetic Association. There is an abundance of scientific evidence showing that it is healthy, probably healthier, to raise kids vegetarian, than as meat-eaters. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever showing that kids need animal protein. http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/ada1993.htm Some more research: http://www.vrg.org/family/adatranscript.htm From the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine: http://www.pcrm.org/health/veginfo/vegetarian_kids.html http://www.pcrm.org/health/veginfo/veg_diets_for_children.html And several respected physicians have written extensively on why kids should not be exposed to cowmilk products. Another article: http://www.andrews.edu/NUFS/Vegan%20Children.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 Gift your friends and hubby with John Robbins books and maybe they'll understand how unhealthy animal anything actually is for anyone children or adults.... health reasons, the environment, the animals etc.... There's also a great book that just recently came out called " The Way We Eat, Why our Food Choices Matter " by Peter Singer and Jim Mason. These books will give a new level of awareness that everyone needs. Meredith Blake <meredithblake1 wrote: Hi everyone, I've been a vegetarian since I was 13 years old (I'm now 36) and just recently had my first child. I was at lunch today with friends and they told my husband and me that it was not healthy to raise a child vegetarian as it has been proven that " young children need animal protein " . I don't buy this, of course, and explained how they (like me) can get enough protein, including the fact that I was vegetarian throughout my pregnancy and managed to grow a nearly 9 lb healthy baby boy. My husband is not a vegetarian and I'm concerned that these comments were concerning to him. Does anyone have thoughts/know of resources to show that a vegetarian diet is fine for a young child to be raised that way? Thanks, Meredith Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 Are you certain that these are friends? My sole concern with vegan children is that they get enough good fats for their growing brains. This becomes a challenge when they give up breatfeeding. Meredith Blake <meredithblake1 wrote: Hi everyone, I've been a vegetarian since I was 13 years old (I'm now 36) and just recently had my first child. I was at lunch today with friends and they told my husband and me that it was not healthy to raise a child vegetarian as it has been proven that " young children need animal protein " . I don't buy this, of course, and explained how they (like me) can get enough protein, including the fact that I was vegetarian throughout my pregnancy and managed to grow a nearly 9 lb healthy baby boy. My husband is not a vegetarian and I'm concerned that these comments were concerning to him. Does anyone have thoughts/know of resources to show that a vegetarian diet is fine for a young child to be raised that way? Thanks, Meredith Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 There is a great article in the May-June 2006 issue of Mothering magazine, called Raising a Vegetarian Family. It deals with all the ignorance out there, the major myths about vegetarian (like the whole protein thing) and cites sources like the American Medical Association and the American Dietetic Association etc. It even has a Did You Know... section with quick bullet points such as - Vegetarians live 7 to 15 years longer - the death rate from cancer among vegetarians is 25 to 50 percent lower than among the general population ....and several more, with everything referenced. You could photocopy that article -- your library might even have a copy of the magazine. Heather Meredith Blake wrote: > > Hi everyone, > I've been a vegetarian since I was 13 years old (I'm now 36) and just > recently had my first child. I was at lunch today with friends and > they told my husband and me that it was not healthy to raise a child > vegetarian as it has been proven that " young children need animal > protein " . I don't buy this, of course, and explained how they (like > me) can get enough protein, including the fact that I was vegetarian > throughout my pregnancy and managed to grow a nearly 9 lb healthy baby > boy. My husband is not a vegetarian and I'm concerned that these > comments were concerning to him. Does anyone have thoughts/know of > resources to show that a vegetarian diet is fine for a young child to > be raised that way? > > Thanks, > Meredith > > > > > Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail Beta. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 as vegans, our only struggle as far as making sure isaiah has a good diet is making sure he gets enough fat. most people find it freakin' hilarious that an american child might not be getting ENOUGH fat, but that's how it is. so we do lots of nuts, seeds, and healthy oils. when he was about 12 months old he suddenly could eat anything and people were asking me when i was going to put him on milk, and telling me that hot dogs were a good protein source...ahhhh! so i had this sort of freak-out of wondering if he was going to get sick. for a week i wrote down EVERYTHING he ate, without making any changes, and at the end of the week i counted up how much of every vitamin and mineral he was getting. how much protein, how much calcium, how many omegas, how many calories, etc. he was getting more of everything than he really needed and we weren't even being that conscientious about it. the only thing he needed help on was fat; he was just under his daily requirement. he's 16 months now and nobody asks us anymore if veganism is a healthy diet for a little kid; they just have to look at him and spend time with him to see. once every few months i still sit down and count up how much he's getting and make changes if we have to based on increased or decreased growth rate, etc., but overall i let my son's hunger be my guide, and luckily he's not a fussy eater. so, it might take a bit more thought and work, but it's COMPLETELY worth it when i see two-year-olds who weigh twice as much as him sitting in front of their parents' tv eating cheetos for lunch. my kid's never even seen tv, lol, he's got better things to do. anyway. good luck trying to convince other people, but remember, actions speak louder than words. you don't need to impress anyone. ultimately they'll be more impressed by seeing how healthy you and your child are, and you won't have to say anything. chandelle' On 7/24/06, Hossfeld Family <jhr wrote: > > There is a great article in the May-June 2006 issue of Mothering > magazine, called Raising a Vegetarian Family. It deals with all the > ignorance out there, the major myths about vegetarian (like the whole > protein thing) and cites sources like the American Medical Association > and the American Dietetic Association etc. It even has a Did You Know... > section with quick bullet points such as > - Vegetarians live 7 to 15 years longer > - the death rate from cancer among vegetarians is 25 to 50 percent > lower than among the general population > ...and several more, with everything referenced. > > You could photocopy that article -- your library might even have a copy > of the magazine. > Heather > > > Meredith Blake wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > I've been a vegetarian since I was 13 years old (I'm now 36) and just > > recently had my first child. I was at lunch today with friends and > > they told my husband and me that it was not healthy to raise a child > > vegetarian as it has been proven that " young children need animal > > protein " . I don't buy this, of course, and explained how they (like > > me) can get enough protein, including the fact that I was vegetarian > > throughout my pregnancy and managed to grow a nearly 9 lb healthy baby > > boy. My husband is not a vegetarian and I'm concerned that these > > comments were concerning to him. Does anyone have thoughts/know of > > resources to show that a vegetarian diet is fine for a young child to > > be raised that way? > > > > Thanks, > > Meredith > > > > > > > > > > Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail Beta. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 Mothering Magazine is my favorite magazine. I have a subscription. Hossfeld Family <jhr wrote: There is a great article in the May-June 2006 issue of Mothering magazine, called Raising a Vegetarian Family. It deals with all the ignorance out there, the major myths about vegetarian (like the whole protein thing) and cites sources like the American Medical Association and the American Dietetic Association etc. It even has a Did You Know... section with quick bullet points such as - Vegetarians live 7 to 15 years longer - the death rate from cancer among vegetarians is 25 to 50 percent lower than among the general population ....and several more, with everything referenced. You could photocopy that article -- your library might even have a copy of the magazine. Heather Meredith Blake wrote: > > Hi everyone, > I've been a vegetarian since I was 13 years old (I'm now 36) and just > recently had my first child. I was at lunch today with friends and > they told my husband and me that it was not healthy to raise a child > vegetarian as it has been proven that " young children need animal > protein " . I don't buy this, of course, and explained how they (like > me) can get enough protein, including the fact that I was vegetarian > throughout my pregnancy and managed to grow a nearly 9 lb healthy baby > boy. My husband is not a vegetarian and I'm concerned that these > comments were concerning to him. Does anyone have thoughts/know of > resources to show that a vegetarian diet is fine for a young child to > be raised that way? > > Thanks, > Meredith > > > > > Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail Beta. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 My favorite magazine! I started reading it long before I had any plans to be a mother. Try this link: http://www.mothering.com/sections/experts/pavlina-archive.html Hossfeld Family <jhr wrote: There is a great article in the May-June 2006 issue of Mothering magazine, called Raising a Vegetarian Family. It deals with all the ignorance out there, the major myths about vegetarian (like the whole protein thing) and cites sources like the American Medical Association and the American Dietetic Association etc. It even has a Did You Know... section with quick bullet points such as - Vegetarians live 7 to 15 years longer - the death rate from cancer among vegetarians is 25 to 50 percent lower than among the general population ....and several more, with everything referenced. You could photocopy that article -- your library might even have a copy of the magazine. Heather Meredith Blake wrote: > > Hi everyone, > I've been a vegetarian since I was 13 years old (I'm now 36) and just > recently had my first child. I was at lunch today with friends and > they told my husband and me that it was not healthy to raise a child > vegetarian as it has been proven that " young children need animal > protein " . I don't buy this, of course, and explained how they (like > me) can get enough protein, including the fact that I was vegetarian > throughout my pregnancy and managed to grow a nearly 9 lb healthy baby > boy. My husband is not a vegetarian and I'm concerned that these > comments were concerning to him. Does anyone have thoughts/know of > resources to show that a vegetarian diet is fine for a young child to > be raised that way? > > Thanks, > Meredith > > > > > Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail Beta. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 I agree 100% with Chandelle. I am 31 now and have been brought up a vegetarian. Absolutely no issues thus far. I did great at school, have no issues with weight myself, had a pregnancy that went by the books (perfect BP, sugar, iron, weight etc) and best of all, have a perfectly happy, healthy weighing son who's 14 months. Its true that you have to watch what you eat...but is'nt food one of those things in life worth spending a moment planning for? I have been brought up with a philosophy that you earn to eat well and stay healthy and have a roof above your head...rest all is secondary... So, for me, food is an important part of life. I always spend 1/2 hour in kitchen and eat home made. We have made it a point to go to restaurants no more than once a week. I just don;t understand why people would depend on ordering in pizza, eating out in neighbourhood joint....i mean, c'on...is food really the least of your priorities? So, what are you " really " earning for? I have heard phrases like " oh, cooking is stressful " ....well, i can;t imagine how they would handle " real " stress There is also this notion about " why should i be cooking " ? Man's job v/s womans etc...hey, just do what you can to keep yourself and your loved ones healthy...period. Anyway, guess some of it is cultural difference....but people need to take time to rething their priorities... I am glad to know you folks are putting so much thought and time to introduce healthy eating habits to your family. Its especially hard when most of people around you believe in take-outs and order-ins. I don't think i would consider spending time cooking everyday if i had'nt seen my mom doing it for us. I hope my son grows up learning that cooking for yourself is important. So, keep up the good work y'all. earthmother <earthmother213 wrote: as vegans, our only struggle as far as making sure isaiah has a good diet is making sure he gets enough fat. most people find it freakin' hilarious that an american child might not be getting ENOUGH fat, but that's how it is. so we do lots of nuts, seeds, and healthy oils. when he was about 12 months old he suddenly could eat anything and people were asking me when i was going to put him on milk, and telling me that hot dogs were a good protein source...ahhhh! so i had this sort of freak-out of wondering if he was going to get sick. for a week i wrote down EVERYTHING he ate, without making any changes, and at the end of the week i counted up how much of every vitamin and mineral he was getting. how much protein, how much calcium, how many omegas, how many calories, etc. he was getting more of everything than he really needed and we weren't even being that conscientious about it. the only thing he needed help on was fat; he was just under his daily requirement. he's 16 months now and nobody asks us anymore if veganism is a healthy diet for a little kid; they just have to look at him and spend time with him to see. once every few months i still sit down and count up how much he's getting and make changes if we have to based on increased or decreased growth rate, etc., but overall i let my son's hunger be my guide, and luckily he's not a fussy eater. so, it might take a bit more thought and work, but it's COMPLETELY worth it when i see two-year-olds who weigh twice as much as him sitting in front of their parents' tv eating cheetos for lunch. my kid's never even seen tv, lol, he's got better things to do. anyway. good luck trying to convince other people, but remember, actions speak louder than words. you don't need to impress anyone. ultimately they'll be more impressed by seeing how healthy you and your child are, and you won't have to say anything. chandelle' On 7/24/06, Hossfeld Family <jhr wrote: > > There is a great article in the May-June 2006 issue of Mothering > magazine, called Raising a Vegetarian Family. It deals with all the > ignorance out there, the major myths about vegetarian (like the whole > protein thing) and cites sources like the American Medical Association > and the American Dietetic Association etc. It even has a Did You Know... > section with quick bullet points such as > - Vegetarians live 7 to 15 years longer > - the death rate from cancer among vegetarians is 25 to 50 percent > lower than among the general population > ...and several more, with everything referenced. > > You could photocopy that article -- your library might even have a copy > of the magazine. > Heather > > > Meredith Blake wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > I've been a vegetarian since I was 13 years old (I'm now 36) and just > > recently had my first child. I was at lunch today with friends and > > they told my husband and me that it was not healthy to raise a child > > vegetarian as it has been proven that " young children need animal > > protein " . I don't buy this, of course, and explained how they (like > > me) can get enough protein, including the fact that I was vegetarian > > throughout my pregnancy and managed to grow a nearly 9 lb healthy baby > > boy. My husband is not a vegetarian and I'm concerned that these > > comments were concerning to him. Does anyone have thoughts/know of > > resources to show that a vegetarian diet is fine for a young child to > > be raised that way? > > > > Thanks, > > Meredith > > > > > > > > > > Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail Beta. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 my husband actually does a lot of the cooking in the house, especially when i'm pregnant. being vegan in a very non-vegan-friendly place (utah) we only go out to dinner, oh, once every few months. can't afford it, the portions are too big, and i can't trust what they put in it. i do miss going out to eat but i don't miss that over-full, sick feeling you get after eating out. we have one very nice, 100% organic vegan place here, but it's pretty up-scale, so we only go for anniversaries, special occasions, etc. i do want to throw in here that whether a child is veg or not, but especially if they are, breastfeeding is so important for their nutrition. i'm studying midwifery and also to be a holistic nutritionist, and i meet people a lot who want to raise their kids veg but are worried about various things. i always say that the best thing you can do is breastfeed on demand right from the beginning; that's the best foundation for a good, healthy diet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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