Thanks to all the responses to my intro/questions!!

[Guest guest]

Hi all-

Thanks so much to all of you that took the time to respond. I'm so

happy I joined this group! What a breath of fresh (veg*n) air!!

All the weston a price folks on the Mothering bbs are also into

extended breastfeeding. I breastfed all my children, the shortest

time being 14 months and the longest being 23 months. I normally

stay away from vegan debates, but I jumped in the mothering one when

I noticed all the weston a price people telling a vegan mom that if

she weaned before the age of 2, her child needed the milk of an

animal..Then they jumped all over me. If anyone is interested, here

is the link to the thread that drove me over the edge!!

http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=516450

thread titled " vegan babies and cows milk " .

Now the weston folks will tell you that all the meat has to be

organic, grass fed, no soy fed meat! whatever. no meat period! lol!

I am glad to be amongst all of you!

Each of my kids has a different favorite soy food: one loves veggie

dogs, two love tofu (cooked or not!!), two love the Silk chocolate

soy milk (I do too), and ALL of them love the gimme lean sausages

with biscuits!

But they eat veggies also, so I'm not worried! I'm still thinking of

going more raw, maybe just on some days:)

One other question for all of you:

What sweetners do you use in place of honey and refined sugar?

Thanks again

Rebecca

[Guest guest]

Rebecca,

I use agave, rice syrup, molasses, maple syrup, birch sugar.

Laura

 

rebecca_richard writes:

 

What sweetners do you use in place of honey and refined sugar?

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

One point that jumped out at me when I was reading the

link to the mothering.com discussion about 1-2 year

olds " needing " animal fat....

 

Someone claimed that virtually no child under 5 is

lactose intolerant. That is a bigoted statement.

Most people in the world are lactose intolerant from

birth. People of western European descent are the

only ones who -- as a group, not speaking about

individual cases -- are likely to be able to digest

animal lactose in dairy products.

 

There have been recent articles about the fact that

scientists are discovering proof of recent evolution

in humans, and they specifically mention this very

topic. They've found that, since early Europeans

developed a diet that include animal (particularly

cow) dairy products, over time there has been genetic

evolution making it more likely that their progeny

would be able to digest such a diet. (I'm not

explaining this properly....don't shoot the

messenger!) So white people are more likely to have

the genetic ability to digest lactose. Other parts of

the world didn't develop the same diet, so individuals

who are not of European ancestry are less likely to

have this gene.

 

In other words, it is not inherent in humans to

consume dairy products. This " skill " has been

developed over time in one small section of the world.

That doesn't make it universal.

 

Liz

[Guest guest]

Weird. Do you have a link to this? I'm getting very interested in this kind of

stuff lately.

My husband had problems with milk when he was little. He seems to have outgrown

it, but I do feel better giving him soy or rice milk since he did have an issue

when he was little.

 

Kadee Sedtal

 

ERB <bakwin wrote: One point

that jumped out at me when I was reading the

link to the mothering.com discussion about 1-2 year

olds " needing " animal fat....

 

Someone claimed that virtually no child under 5 is

lactose intolerant. That is a bigoted statement.

Most people in the world are lactose intolerant from

birth. People of western European descent are the

only ones who -- as a group, not speaking about

individual cases -- are likely to be able to digest

animal lactose in dairy products.

 

There have been recent articles about the fact that

scientists are discovering proof of recent evolution

in humans, and they specifically mention this very

topic. They've found that, since early Europeans

developed a diet that include animal (particularly

cow) dairy products, over time there has been genetic

evolution making it more likely that their progeny

would be able to digest such a diet. (I'm not

explaining this properly....don't shoot the

messenger!) So white people are more likely to have

the genetic ability to digest lactose. Other parts of

the world didn't develop the same diet, so individuals

who are not of European ancestry are less likely to

have this gene.

 

In other words, it is not inherent in humans to

consume dairy products. This " skill " has been

developed over time in one small section of the world.

That doesn't make it universal.

 

Liz

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

If you don't consider lactose intolerance to be an allergy, then it might be

true; I wonder, though how rigerous the data is..

 

Kadee M <abbey_road3012 wrote: Weird. Do you have a link to this?

I'm getting very interested in this kind of stuff lately.

My husband had problems with milk when he was little. He seems to have outgrown

it, but I do feel better giving him soy or rice milk since he did have an issue

when he was little.

 

Kadee Sedtal

 

ERB wrote: One point that jumped out at me when I was reading the

link to the mothering.com discussion about 1-2 year

olds " needing " animal fat....

 

Someone claimed that virtually no child under 5 is

lactose intolerant. That is a bigoted statement.

Most people in the world are lactose intolerant from

birth. People of western European descent are the

only ones who -- as a group, not speaking about

individual cases -- are likely to be able to digest

animal lactose in dairy products.

 

There have been recent articles about the fact that

scientists are discovering proof of recent evolution

in humans, and they specifically mention this very

topic. They've found that, since early Europeans

developed a diet that include animal (particularly

cow) dairy products, over time there has been genetic

evolution making it more likely that their progeny

would be able to digest such a diet. (I'm not

explaining this properly....don't shoot the

messenger!) So white people are more likely to have

the genetic ability to digest lactose. Other parts of

the world didn't develop the same diet, so individuals

who are not of European ancestry are less likely to

have this gene.

 

In other words, it is not inherent in humans to

consume dairy products. This " skill " has been

developed over time in one small section of the world.

That doesn't make it universal.

 

Liz

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

I use organic raw sugar ,tubinardo sugar ,beet sugar , date sugar,

molasses ,agave nectar and suzannes rice syrup

Teresa

 

>

> rebecca_richard writes:

>

> What sweetners do you use in place of honey and refined sugar?

[Guest guest]

i've never heard of birch sugar. ??? we also use a lot of molasses,

blackstrap for the iron content.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Organic maple syrup!

 

outonalimb wrote:

> I use organic raw sugar ,tubinardo sugar ,beet sugar , date sugar,

> molasses ,agave nectar and suzannes rice syrup

> Teresa

>

>

>>rebecca_richard writes:

>>

>>What sweetners do you use in place of honey and refined sugar?

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[Guest guest]

Kadee,

 

With regard to the research into the evolutionary

difference between northern Europeans, who developed

the ability to continue to digest lactose throughout

life, and virtually everyone else in the world....I

tried searching the usual suspects (for me) -- Science

News, BBC, and the New York Times -- and wasn't able

to find a link. I'm pretty sure I read it within the

past week in hard copy, not online, so it could be

that they just haven't gotten their most recent print

edition fully online yet. Or, that my search skills

are bad! I'll keep looking.

 

And thanks, earthmother, for clarifying my poorly

written post about lactose intolerance.

Unfortunately, my writing skills have deteriorated in

recent years. Of course babies can drink mommy's

milk!

 

Liz

[Guest guest]

Well I'm just curious to read it. Not like we're going to buy cow's milk anyway.

The past few days I haven't even been able to eat cheese. I've been thinking

about the pus that's in milk from the cows being milked so roughly and having

scabs. Makes me sick!!

 

Kadee Sedtal

 

ERB <bakwin wrote: Kadee,

 

With regard to the research into the evolutionary

difference between northern Europeans, who developed

the ability to continue to digest lactose throughout

life, and virtually everyone else in the world....I

tried searching the usual suspects (for me) -- Science

News, BBC, and the New York Times -- and wasn't able

to find a link. I'm pretty sure I read it within the

past week in hard copy, not online, so it could be

that they just haven't gotten their most recent print

edition fully online yet. Or, that my search skills

are bad! I'll keep looking.

 

And thanks, earthmother, for clarifying my poorly

written post about lactose intolerance.

Unfortunately, my writing skills have deteriorated in

recent years. Of course babies can drink mommy's

milk!

 

Liz

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

After all this talk of refined sugar and critter bones, we got some raw sugar

today at the store. Talk about good! I ate several little bites of it and it

tasted very good. Expensive, though, but no bones used.

 

Kadee Sedtal

 

Paul Falvo <pfalvo wrote: Organic

maple syrup!

 

outonalimb wrote:

> I use organic raw sugar ,tubinardo sugar ,beet sugar , date sugar,

> molasses ,agave nectar and suzannes rice syrup

> Teresa

>

>

>>rebecca_richard writes:

>>

>>What sweetners do you use in place of honey and refined sugar?

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