Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 Emergency c-sections and inductions are why I never went to the hospital until I knew it was almost time to push! Every baby show I ever watch turns out the same: lady shows up at hospital only a few cm dialated. They say " lets break your water, lets try pitocin.. " All of a sudden the contractions are coming fast and furious, no natural progress allowed. Then they say " how about an epidural? " Then you can't feel anything, and your body wasn't totally ready anyway..Then they say " you need an emergency c-section " ! With my 2nd child I went in when my water broke at about midnight. By the next morning, they were acting impatient..So I started walking, and the baby was born at 10am..I don't appreciate the constant monitoring, or the impatience.. Just my 2 cents rebecca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 I had both of my children naturally - and was never given a choice! My first was born at Camp Lejuene Naval Hospital 22 years ago - there were so many military wives having babies that they couldn't give the option of an epidural or spinal. I was in pure agony and thought death was certain. After 19 hours of labor, 12 of which were HARD INTENSE KILLER labor hours, they had get out the " salad tongs " (LOL) and help my son out. I am petite and my son was big - 9.5 lbs, 22.5 " long, with at 14.5 " head! To this day he has a calcified lump on the top/back of his head - either from being jammed against my pelvice bone or the forceps, the dr is not sure. I really could have used some help with that one. It wasn't the joyful experience natural child birth advocates talk about. It was pure hell and I've never forgotten it. With my daughter my water broke in the morning so the dr had me go to the hospital to be monitored until labor began. It never got going so they gave me pitocin. An hour later I was in full intense labor - this time having the experience of knowing no matter how bad the pain got I would survive. My husband called the nurse because the contractions were coming fast and furious. She took a look at my IV and said, " Oops, let me turn that down. " Apparently they gave me too much pitocin. The anethesiologist was on the elevator to come and give me an epidural when suddenly my dr proclaimed (in her Indian accent), " No time for that! No time for that! " Shortly thereafter my daughter popped out (7.5 lbs, 19 " , smaller head than her brother - much easier)! So, I have nothing against needing an epidural during labor. I would have given anything to have had one. All of my friends had one with their kids and their children are completely healthy and very intelligent. - rebecca richard Wednesday, September 20, 2006 7:47 AM Re: epidurals/emergency c sections Emergency c-sections and inductions are why I never went to the hospital until I knew it was almost time to push! Every baby show I ever watch turns out the same: lady shows up at hospital only a few cm dialated. They say " lets break your water, lets try pitocin.. " All of a sudden the contractions are coming fast and furious, no natural progress allowed. Then they say " how about an epidural? " Then you can't feel anything, and your body wasn't totally ready anyway..Then they say " you need an emergency c-section " ! With my 2nd child I went in when my water broke at about midnight. By the next morning, they were acting impatient..So I started walking, and the baby was born at 10am..I don't appreciate the constant monitoring, or the impatience.. 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Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 don't get me started on those birth shows. i wouldn't be surprised if we see a major leap in interventions and surgical births now that those shows have become so prevalent and popular. they are high drama and little else. i can't help but throw something at the screen whenever one comes on at a client's house. i sit there screaming, " DON'T GIVE HER PITOCIN! GET THE WOMAN OUT OF BED! DON'T BREAK HER WATER, THE HEAD IS STILL HIGH! WHY ARE YOU CUTTING HER?! " my husband says it's very disturbing to watch them because they perpetuate the image that birth is a medical event that could become an emergency at any time...which is not actually true. most of those " emergencies " are created by the hospital staff and i could give you any number of ways most of those " emergencies " could have been prevented -- primarily by leaving those poor women ALONE instead of working so hard to convince them their bodies are defective and their babies need to be saved from them. ::sigh:: i don't want to get attacked here so i'm not saying real emergencies don't happen, but they are much more likely to happen the way they do things in most hospitals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 As the time grew near to have my first baby, my mom told me, " Whatever you do, don't let them give you pitocin! " Kadee Sedtal rebecca richard <rebecca_richard wrote: Emergency c-sections and inductions are why I never went to the hospital until I knew it was almost time to push! Every baby show I ever watch turns out the same: lady shows up at hospital only a few cm dialated. They say " lets break your water, lets try pitocin.. " All of a sudden the contractions are coming fast and furious, no natural progress allowed. Then they say " how about an epidural? " Then you can't feel anything, and your body wasn't totally ready anyway..Then they say " you need an emergency c-section " ! With my 2nd child I went in when my water broke at about midnight. By the next morning, they were acting impatient..So I started walking, and the baby was born at 10am..I don't appreciate the constant monitoring, or the impatience.. Just my 2 cents rebecca Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 I watched a few of those shows, and I think maybe one of ten of the births was without a c-section. Ridiculous. Kadee Sedtal earthmother <earthmother213 wrote: don't get me started on those birth shows. i wouldn't be surprised if we see a major leap in interventions and surgical births now that those shows have become so prevalent and popular. they are high drama and little else. i can't help but throw something at the screen whenever one comes on at a client's house. i sit there screaming, " DON'T GIVE HER PITOCIN! GET THE WOMAN OUT OF BED! DON'T BREAK HER WATER, THE HEAD IS STILL HIGH! WHY ARE YOU CUTTING HER?! " my husband says it's very disturbing to watch them because they perpetuate the image that birth is a medical event that could become an emergency at any time...which is not actually true. most of those " emergencies " are created by the hospital staff and i could give you any number of ways most of those " emergencies " could have been prevented -- primarily by leaving those poor women ALONE instead of working so hard to convince them their bodies are defective and their babies need to be saved from them. ::sigh:: i don't want to get attacked here so i'm not saying real emergencies don't happen, but they are much more likely to happen the way they do things in most hospitals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 I was a week overdue, dialated at 2cm and my amniotic fluid was dangerously low. I needed to get induced and received pitocin. I had every hope of not getting an epidural but the pain was overbearing and I was still not dialating. Once I received the epidural, I dialated very quickly and was able to have a vaginal birth. I was never forced or felt pressure in getting the epidural. I also did not get an episiotomy - at my request. I had one small tear and received stiches for it. I never had any side effects and had very little soreness. Maybe I was just very fortunate..? I know people who have had c-sections with their first births and from that point on, don't even try to give birth vaginally. This, I find hard to comprehend. In my situation, my baby was at risk. I think it's important to know that each and every situation will be different. I try not to pass judgement on people who choose a different path than one I would follow. It's easy to do but I would expect the same for the choices I make. Michele , Kadee M <abbey_road3012 wrote: > > I watched a few of those shows, and I think maybe one of ten of the births was without a c-section. Ridiculous. > > Kadee Sedtal > > earthmother <earthmother213 wrote: don't get me started on those birth shows. i wouldn't be surprised if we > see a major leap in interventions and surgical births now that those shows > have become so prevalent and popular. they are high drama and little else. > i can't help but throw something at the screen whenever one comes on at a > client's house. i sit there screaming, " DON'T GIVE HER PITOCIN! GET THE > WOMAN OUT OF BED! DON'T BREAK HER WATER, THE HEAD IS STILL HIGH! WHY ARE > YOU CUTTING HER?! " my husband says it's very disturbing to watch them > because they perpetuate the image that birth is a medical event that could > become an emergency at any time...which is not actually true. most of those > " emergencies " are created by the hospital staff and i could give you any > number of ways most of those " emergencies " could have been prevented -- > primarily by leaving those poor women ALONE instead of working so hard to > convince them their bodies are defective and their babies need to be saved > from them. ::sigh:: i don't want to get attacked here so i'm not saying > real emergencies don't happen, but they are much more likely to happen the > way they do things in most hospitals. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 I had gestational diabetes and was almost 42 weeks when the doctor broke my water and hooked me up to pitocin. Though I couldn't move around, I *never* had an epidural pushed on me, though they asked fairly often. And at 9 c.m. and with constant back labor, I asked for " something " and they offered the pitocin and I said " no, some drugs would be fine " and had a dose of stadol. worked for me. I was still with it enough to experience what was happening, enjoy my baby and occasionally hallucinate. AA >Emergency c-sections and inductions are why I never went to the hospital >until I knew it was almost time to push! Every baby show I ever watch turns >out the same: lady shows up at hospital only a few cm dialated. They say > " lets break your water, lets try pitocin.. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 I have to admit I am a baby show junkie..I have seen lots..And I have seen at least 5 homebirths, and over 20 natural childbirths in a hospital.. And obviously 100s that were pitocin, epidural, " emergency c section " Rebecca >Kadee M <abbey_road3012 > > >Re: Re: epidurals/emergency c sections >Wed, 20 Sep 2006 11:57:01 -0700 (PDT) > >I watched a few of those shows, and I think maybe one of ten of the births >was without a c-section. Ridiculous. > >Kadee Sedtal > >earthmother <earthmother213 wrote: > don't get me started on those birth shows. i wouldn't be surprised if >we > see a major leap in interventions and surgical births now that those >shows > have become so prevalent and popular. they are high drama and little >else. > i can't help but throw something at the screen whenever one comes on at a > client's house. i sit there screaming, " DON'T GIVE HER PITOCIN! GET THE > WOMAN OUT OF BED! DON'T BREAK HER WATER, THE HEAD IS STILL HIGH! WHY >ARE > YOU CUTTING HER?! " my husband says it's very disturbing to watch them > because they perpetuate the image that birth is a medical event that >could > become an emergency at any time...which is not actually true. most of >those > " emergencies " are created by the hospital staff and i could give you any > number of ways most of those " emergencies " could have been prevented -- > primarily by leaving those poor women ALONE instead of working so hard to > convince them their bodies are defective and their babies need to be >saved > from them. ::sigh:: i don't want to get attacked here so i'm not saying > real emergencies don't happen, but they are much more likely to happen >the > way they do things in most hospitals. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 Also, not looking to get attacked... I was on Active Duty in the Air Force when I had my first baby, ds is now 5 1/2yo, but at that time I had a militant midwife and the nurse was no better. Luckily I had him with no meds, but I nearly kicked her when without warning she decided I needed a D & C. I had no idea what that was, nor what she was doing until she kept saying sorry and not explaining a thing. Aweful, but lucky for the miracle that is my son. If not for that scarring experience would I have researched a much better and peaceful birth for my second child, dd 3 1/2 yo. Completely natural water birth. Just wish I had the guts to have her at home. Even at the birthcenter and very accomodating environment, I wish I could have left within hours after the birth. Luckily I was out of the military also. Lucky for lots of reasons on that. birth is a natural miracle, and it's embarrassing so many women are taught to be scared of their bodies and giving birth. Everytime I find out someone I know is pregnant I test the waters with a discussion to let her know that there are alternatives, midwives, doulas, all sorts of people and ways that aren't publicized to have a natural, safe, enjoyable birth. My daughter's birth was so awesome, I wanted to have so many more to do it again, but my 2 are all for me. Have a good night! J Kadee M <abbey_road3012 wrote: I watched a few of those shows, and I think maybe one of ten of the births was without a c-section. Ridiculous. Kadee Sedtal earthmother <earthmother213 wrote: don't get me started on those birth shows. i wouldn't be surprised if we see a major leap in interventions and surgical births now that those shows have become so prevalent and popular. they are high drama and little else. i can't help but throw something at the screen whenever one comes on at a client's house. i sit there screaming, " DON'T GIVE HER PITOCIN! GET THE WOMAN OUT OF BED! DON'T BREAK HER WATER, THE HEAD IS STILL HIGH! WHY ARE YOU CUTTING HER?! " my husband says it's very disturbing to watch them because they perpetuate the image that birth is a medical event that could become an emergency at any time...which is not actually true. most of those " emergencies " are created by the hospital staff and i could give you any number of ways most of those " emergencies " could have been prevented -- primarily by leaving those poor women ALONE instead of working so hard to convince them their bodies are defective and their babies need to be saved from them. ::sigh:: i don't want to get attacked here so i'm not saying real emergencies don't happen, but they are much more likely to happen the way they do things in most hospitals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 i hear that on the impatience, I spent all day and night in the hospital with my first. And learned for my second, not to arrive until I was good and ready. I'd rather have had my daughter in the car on the way than be waiting and monitored, hooked up or having my energy drained by an IV. My dd was born just an hour after I got to the birthcenter. Unfortunately, there is so much uncertainty with the first born, never having had feelings/pain/contractions, and a build up of anticipation that you feel a rush to get there. If only you could know what you don't know before you need to know it. Kadee M <abbey_road3012 wrote: As the time grew near to have my first baby, my mom told me, " Whatever you do, don't let them give you pitocin! " Kadee Sedtal rebecca richard <rebecca_richard wrote: Emergency c-sections and inductions are why I never went to the hospital until I knew it was almost time to push! Every baby show I ever watch turns out the same: lady shows up at hospital only a few cm dialated. They say " lets break your water, lets try pitocin.. " All of a sudden the contractions are coming fast and furious, no natural progress allowed. Then they say " how about an epidural? " Then you can't feel anything, and your body wasn't totally ready anyway..Then they say " you need an emergency c-section " ! With my 2nd child I went in when my water broke at about midnight. By the next morning, they were acting impatient..So I started walking, and the baby was born at 10am..I don't appreciate the constant monitoring, or the impatience.. Just my 2 cents rebecca Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 When a c-section or whatever is needed, that's one thing. But just doing it do do it is another. Kadee Sedtal lucky13vegan <lucky13vegan wrote: I was a week overdue, dialated at 2cm and my amniotic fluid was dangerously low. I needed to get induced and received pitocin. I had every hope of not getting an epidural but the pain was overbearing and I was still not dialating. Once I received the epidural, I dialated very quickly and was able to have a vaginal birth. I was never forced or felt pressure in getting the epidural. I also did not get an episiotomy - at my request. I had one small tear and received stiches for it. I never had any side effects and had very little soreness. Maybe I was just very fortunate..? I know people who have had c-sections with their first births and from that point on, don't even try to give birth vaginally. This, I find hard to comprehend. In my situation, my baby was at risk. I think it's important to know that each and every situation will be different. I try not to pass judgement on people who choose a different path than one I would follow. It's easy to do but I would expect the same for the choices I make. Michele , Kadee M <abbey_road3012 wrote: > > I watched a few of those shows, and I think maybe one of ten of the births was without a c-section. Ridiculous. > > Kadee Sedtal > > earthmother <earthmother213 wrote: don't get me started on those birth shows. i wouldn't be surprised if we > see a major leap in interventions and surgical births now that those shows > have become so prevalent and popular. they are high drama and little else. > i can't help but throw something at the screen whenever one comes on at a > client's house. i sit there screaming, " DON'T GIVE HER PITOCIN! GET THE > WOMAN OUT OF BED! DON'T BREAK HER WATER, THE HEAD IS STILL HIGH! WHY ARE > YOU CUTTING HER?! " my husband says it's very disturbing to watch them > because they perpetuate the image that birth is a medical event that could > become an emergency at any time...which is not actually true. most of those > " emergencies " are created by the hospital staff and i could give you any > number of ways most of those " emergencies " could have been prevented -- > primarily by leaving those poor women ALONE instead of working so hard to > convince them their bodies are defective and their babies need to be saved > from them. ::sigh:: i don't want to get attacked here so i'm not saying > real emergencies don't happen, but they are much more likely to happen the > way they do things in most hospitals. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 About a week ago I was talking with someone from another list on IM. Turns out she's expecting a baby soon and is absolutely terrified. I felt so awful for her! I had felt the same way when I was pregnant for the first time. I just tried so hard to get it in her head that it's not the big production so many people make of it. I had nothing for the pain the second time around and it wasn't so bad, I told her that, and she almost seemed freaked out that someone wasn't telling a horror story. I think so many people out there enjoy telling others how horrible it was, how the epidural needle was ten feet long and the baby was pried out with rusty pliers, that sort of thing just freaks new moms out. Kadee Sedtal janeen minguillo <jminshan wrote: Also, not looking to get attacked... I was on Active Duty in the Air Force when I had my first baby, ds is now 5 1/2yo, but at that time I had a militant midwife and the nurse was no better. Luckily I had him with no meds, but I nearly kicked her when without warning she decided I needed a D & C. I had no idea what that was, nor what she was doing until she kept saying sorry and not explaining a thing. Aweful, but lucky for the miracle that is my son. If not for that scarring experience would I have researched a much better and peaceful birth for my second child, dd 3 1/2 yo. Completely natural water birth. Just wish I had the guts to have her at home. Even at the birthcenter and very accomodating environment, I wish I could have left within hours after the birth. Luckily I was out of the military also. Lucky for lots of reasons on that. birth is a natural miracle, and it's embarrassing so many women are taught to be scared of their bodies and giving birth. Everytime I find out someone I know is pregnant I test the waters with a discussion to let her know that there are alternatives, midwives, doulas, all sorts of people and ways that aren't publicized to have a natural, safe, enjoyable birth. My daughter's birth was so awesome, I wanted to have so many more to do it again, but my 2 are all for me. Have a good night! J Kadee M <abbey_road3012 wrote: I watched a few of those shows, and I think maybe one of ten of the births was without a c-section. Ridiculous. Kadee Sedtal earthmother <earthmother213 wrote: don't get me started on those birth shows. i wouldn't be surprised if we see a major leap in interventions and surgical births now that those shows have become so prevalent and popular. they are high drama and little else. i can't help but throw something at the screen whenever one comes on at a client's house. i sit there screaming, " DON'T GIVE HER PITOCIN! GET THE WOMAN OUT OF BED! DON'T BREAK HER WATER, THE HEAD IS STILL HIGH! WHY ARE YOU CUTTING HER?! " my husband says it's very disturbing to watch them because they perpetuate the image that birth is a medical event that could become an emergency at any time...which is not actually true. most of those " emergencies " are created by the hospital staff and i could give you any number of ways most of those " emergencies " could have been prevented -- primarily by leaving those poor women ALONE instead of working so hard to convince them their bodies are defective and their babies need to be saved from them. ::sigh:: i don't want to get attacked here so i'm not saying real emergencies don't happen, but they are much more likely to happen the way they do things in most hospitals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 We were out at the state park with my parents and grandparents the day my son was born. I had started having contractions on the way there. This was my second child, but my husband's first, so he was of course insisting we go to the hospital right then and there. NO! So we hung out in Nannie and PawPaw's trailer eating peach cobbler and they were all making fun of me when I'd have a contraction. My husband, dad, and PawPaw were all really antsy, thinking I really needed to get going to the hospital right away. Nannie and Mom were telling them to shut up, that I'd go when I was ready. After about 4 hours of this, Jeff (hubby) grabbed my arm, told the rest of them to watch Leah, and shoved me all the way to the car and drove me to the hospital, worried sick the whole way there. Jeffy was born just a few hours later, and I haven't yet let Jeff live it down that I wouldn't have missed eating Nannie's potato salad if he hadn't been such a weirdo. Stupid monitor strapped around my stomach was so uncomfortable! Kadee Sedtal janeen minguillo <jminshan wrote: i hear that on the impatience, I spent all day and night in the hospital with my first. And learned for my second, not to arrive until I was good and ready. I'd rather have had my daughter in the car on the way than be waiting and monitored, hooked up or having my energy drained by an IV. My dd was born just an hour after I got to the birthcenter. Unfortunately, there is so much uncertainty with the first born, never having had feelings/pain/contractions, and a build up of anticipation that you feel a rush to get there. If only you could know what you don't know before you need to know it. Kadee M <abbey_road3012 wrote: As the time grew near to have my first baby, my mom told me, " Whatever you do, don't let them give you pitocin! " Kadee Sedtal rebecca richard <rebecca_richard wrote: Emergency c-sections and inductions are why I never went to the hospital until I knew it was almost time to push! Every baby show I ever watch turns out the same: lady shows up at hospital only a few cm dialated. They say " lets break your water, lets try pitocin.. " All of a sudden the contractions are coming fast and furious, no natural progress allowed. Then they say " how about an epidural? " Then you can't feel anything, and your body wasn't totally ready anyway..Then they say " you need an emergency c-section " ! With my 2nd child I went in when my water broke at about midnight. By the next morning, they were acting impatient..So I started walking, and the baby was born at 10am..I don't appreciate the constant monitoring, or the impatience.. Just my 2 cents rebecca Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 It's been a while since I had mine - but I totally agree - wait as long as possible - I had 2 all natural deliveries - no nothing - I refused to be monitored - no epidural no episiotomy -nothing - My first I delivered - after a couple of hours of back pain at my house - within an hour after I arrived at the hospital - my second within 4 hours and I was going nuts. DO NOT GET PRESSURED INTO DOING ANYTHING THAT YOU DO NOT WANT TO DO - IT IS YOUR BODY!!! Also if possible get a mid-wife - mine was associated with a hospital - best of both worlds! Lauren janeen minguillo <jminshan wrote: i hear that on the impatience, I spent all day and night in the hospital with my first. And learned for my second, not to arrive until I was good and ready. I'd rather have had my daughter in the car on the way than be waiting and monitored, hooked up or having my energy drained by an IV. My dd was born just an hour after I got to the birthcenter. Unfortunately, there is so much uncertainty with the first born, never having had feelings/pain/contractions, and a build up of anticipation that you feel a rush to get there. If only you could know what you don't know before you need to know it. Kadee M wrote: As the time grew near to have my first baby, my mom told me, " Whatever you do, don't let them give you pitocin! " Kadee Sedtal rebecca richard wrote: Emergency c-sections and inductions are why I never went to the hospital until I knew it was almost time to push! Every baby show I ever watch turns out the same: lady shows up at hospital only a few cm dialated. They say " lets break your water, lets try pitocin.. " All of a sudden the contractions are coming fast and furious, no natural progress allowed. Then they say " how about an epidural? " Then you can't feel anything, and your body wasn't totally ready anyway..Then they say " you need an emergency c-section " ! With my 2nd child I went in when my water broke at about midnight. By the next morning, they were acting impatient..So I started walking, and the baby was born at 10am..I don't appreciate the constant monitoring, or the impatience.. Just my 2 cents rebecca Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 Where I live, in Ontario, Canada, midwifery is completely covered by our public health insurance (paid for by our taxes). Midwives are licensed to deliver babies of their clients in hospitals, or people can choose home births. I was planning to deliver in hospital for my first (I was young and still believed the party line) but ended up being forced by circumstance to deliver at home -- and it was so wonderful, that for my second and third I planned home births and was blessed to have everything go smoothly enough that they were possible. I had wonderful midwives. And no internal exams until I was well into active labour. But even here, many people still look at me like I have two heads when it comes up that I delivered my babies at home. So many people say they'd be too scared to do that -- frankly, I've heard so many horror stories about hospital births, I'd be more afraid of that. Heather Lauren Niedel wrote: > > It's been a while since I had mine - but I totally agree - wait as > long as possible - I had 2 all natural deliveries - no nothing - I > refused to be monitored - no epidural no episiotomy -nothing - My > first I delivered - after a couple of hours of back pain at my house - > within an hour after I arrived at the hospital - my second within 4 > hours and I was going nuts. DO NOT GET PRESSURED INTO DOING ANYTHING > THAT YOU DO NOT WANT TO DO - IT IS YOUR BODY!!! Also if possible get a > mid-wife - mine was associated with a hospital - best of both worlds! > > Lauren > > janeen minguillo <jminshan <jminshan%40>> wrote: > i hear that on the impatience, I spent all day and night in the > hospital with my first. And learned for my second, not to arrive until > I was good and ready. I'd rather have had my daughter in the car on > the way than be waiting and monitored, hooked up or having my energy > drained by an IV. My dd was born just an hour after I got to the > birthcenter. Unfortunately, there is so much uncertainty with the > first born, never having had feelings/pain/contractions, and a build > up of anticipation that you feel a rush to get there. If only you > could know what you don't know before you need to know it. > > Kadee M wrote: As the time grew near to have my first baby, my mom > told me, " Whatever you do, don't let them give you pitocin! " > > Kadee Sedtal > > rebecca richard wrote: Emergency c-sections and inductions are why I > never went to the hospital > until I knew it was almost time to push! Every baby show I ever watch > turns > out the same: lady shows up at hospital only a few cm dialated. They say > " lets break your water, lets try pitocin.. " All of a sudden the > contractions > are coming fast and furious, no natural progress allowed. Then they > say " how > about an epidural? " Then you can't feel anything, and your body wasn't > totally ready anyway..Then they say " you need an emergency c-section " ! > With > my 2nd child I went in when my water broke at about midnight. By the next > morning, they were acting impatient..So I started walking, and the > baby was > born at 10am..I don't appreciate the constant monitoring, or the > impatience.. > Just my 2 cents > rebecca > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 i completely understand that. i don't know anyone who has even had an unmedicated birth much less a birth outside the hospital, whether at home or in a birth center. so i get lots of comments about how they'd be too scared or how brave i must be...i always say, you're the brave one, to be willing to put your life and your baby's life in the hands of a stranger, to be willing to give up your autonomy and go uninformed, so sure that everything will be ok since it's in the hands of the " experts, " and how brave you must be to give birth in a less safe place. i'm a wimp, especially about pain, and deferring to authority -- that's why i'm planning a homebirth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 When I first went to the hospital the MIDWIFE on duty TOLD ME she was going to start a pitocin drip. We had a nice little chat (ha), and I left, only coming back when I knew her shift was over...that's why I was 10 cm when I walked in!!! I was soooo ticked off about that midwife...she's no longer with the practice. , Kadee M <abbey_road3012 wrote: > > As the time grew near to have my first baby, my mom told me, " Whatever you do, don't let them give you pitocin! " > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 well, any " midwife " in a hospital is a nurse-midwife, not a real midwife, so you have to take that into consideration. i have a beef with CNMs right now...some of them are good, but overall they're really giving those of us who are ACTUALLY working (or in my case learning) under the midwifery model of care a bad name! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 The midwife that ended up with me was a former delivery nurse before going through a midwifery program. I went to a physicians and midwife practice. I wanted the option of medical intervention for my baby (and myself) if needed. I personally would never have a homebirth. My aunt had a homebirth and the baby ended up with a trauma that eventually led to his death. Had the delivery been at a hospital, apparently the outcome would have been different. I think he was delivered by a doctor. It all happened before my time, so I'm not clear on the details, but it did make an impression. It just wasn't for me, but to each her own. My great-grandmother was actually a midwife (and herbalist), and I know she wasn't delivering at any hospitals. , earthmother <earthmother213 wrote: > > well, any " midwife " in a hospital is a nurse-midwife, not a real midwife, so > you have to take that into consideration. i have a beef with CNMs right > now...some of them are good, but overall they're really giving those of us > who are ACTUALLY working (or in my case learning) under the midwifery model > of care a bad name! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 to each their own, yes...but please be very cautious promoting stories that end in " if she'd been in the hospital her baby wouldn't have died " or " if she'd been at home her baby would have died. " it's impossible to tell what would have happened. things go so completely differently at home than in the hospital that it's impossible to say what would have been different in either case. it's not even fair to apply the same rules. in the hospital a woman's care is completely different than at home, and the way her labor goes and the way her baby reacts is completely different. it's comparing apples and oranges and is really just not applicable. i could easily say, if i'd been in the hospital my baby would have died or i might have, and that could be completely accurate, but seriously, it's just an inflammatory statement that sends the wrong message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Well, one thing we CAN say for sure is that one can't get level 3 NICU services at home. I'll take my chances at a hospital. I think the statistics in the age of modern medicine speak for themselves. I labored completely at home and went to the hospital at 10 cm. My baby had breathing problems hours after birth. If I had been at home with him without the medical intervention he received at the hospital (intervention using hospital equipment with the knowledge of the hospital staff), he would have probably died. I'll handle my labor pain. I'll let the doctors handle the medical emergencies that may arise and that probably aren't related to delivering in a hospital. Based on what happened during my aunt's delivery, statistically speaking there would have been a different outcome in a hospital...babies in the hospital delivered with the same complications had different outcomes. Now I suppose if some butterfly flapped its wings somewhere, it could have turned out differently. But until there is proof for that theory, I'm going with statistics and science. JMO. , earthmother <earthmother213 wrote: > > to each their own, yes...but please be very cautious promoting stories that > end in " if she'd been in the hospital her baby wouldn't have died " or " if > she'd been at home her baby would have died. " it's impossible to tell what > would have happened. things go so completely differently at home than in > the hospital that it's impossible to say what would have been different in > either case. it's not even fair to apply the same rules. in the hospital a > woman's care is completely different than at home, and the way her labor > goes and the way her baby reacts is completely different. it's comparing > apples and oranges and is really just not applicable. i could easily say, > if i'd been in the hospital my baby would have died or i might have, and > that could be completely accurate, but seriously, it's just an inflammatory > statement that sends the wrong message. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 well, to each their own certainly. you consider homebirth unacceptable risk and many women who choose homebirth consider hospital unacceptable risk. certainly if a baby has a problem you don't stay home, of course. nobody is going to stay home with a sick baby after a birth or with a labor that isn't going well. but true emergencies are so incredibly rare at home, the statistic barely computes. not so in hospital, but the higher risk in hospital is considered acceptable because of all the medical technology, and that's great. even when true-blue emergencies do happen at home, often it's something so traumatic that even being in the hospital and having an instantaneous cesarean (impossible) or instantaneous level 3 nicu care (also impossible) would not have made a difference. if you are speaking of statistics and science, it just is far safer to give birth at home and that's that. every study you find will support that statement. but i will say that homebirth is for low-risk, healthy women and babies. if there's a problem, you go to the hospital, and it usually doesn't make much of a difference if it takes ten minutes to get to the hospital...by the time you get there the staff is ready for you and nothing happens that wouldn't have happened just exactly the same way as if you'd been in the hospital from the beginning -- except that you've gone to lengths to PREVENT problems from occurring in the first place by not laboring in the hospital. you did it the perfect way by waiting until you were 10 cm. and going; that's always my advice to women who are doing a hospital birth. i speak from the experience of someone who did transport from a homebirth to a hospital because of complications. if you want to use anecdotal evidence, my son and i both had some problems and they were all caused, without exception, by hospital practices. so it goes both ways. and that's all i'm going to say on the matter; i'm ducking out now before this gets more volatile! thank you for your opinion and feelings on the matter and i guess we'll just agree to disagree and let this group go back to veggie conversation! chandelle' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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