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Rachael,

I'm the same way - my waters break first, I have a couple hours of

uninteresting contractions and then nothing really happens so they end up

having to induce. So I don't even know what a totally natural labor feels

like.

Leena

 

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> On Behalf Of smartgirl27us

>Tuesday, September 19, 2006 4:55 PM

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> Re: fluoride

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>Please don't assume that epidurals are always neccessarily

>evil. I wanted natural child birth with both of my kids but

>ended up with an epidural both times.

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>The first time, my water broke but I did not go into labor.

>They ended up having to induce (with two different drugs) and

>eventually contractions started but they were so violent,

>close together, and painful that eventually my doctor told me

>that if I didnt get an epidural to allow me to rest that I

>might not have the energy to push when the time came. I got one.

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>The second time I was in labor (induced again because I had

>high blood pressure and was overdue) for over 24 hours and the

>baby was not desending. The baby's heart rate started

>fluctuating and they ended up doing an emergency c-section

>(with epidural). Turned out his foot was wrapped up in the

>umbilical chord and the c-section may have saved his life.

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>(Sorry for the long post not really related to vegetarian parenting!)

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>Rachael

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it's really too bad that people are so obsessive about inducing labor after

waters break. when women stay home and walk around and do nipple stim and

go about their days, they go into labor easily and in their own time, as

opposed to getting a pit drip and beginning a cascade of intervention that

all too often ends up in a cesarean. even if they don't go into labor right

away, there's no concern of infection if they stay home and are meticulous

about hygeine. i don't know why any woman or doctor expects to labor to

begin when her water breaks and she gets put to bed, or why anyone is

surprised when these women end up infected after having hands put inside

them every twenty minutes. psh.

 

 

 

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FWIW....if you are working with a midwife/obstetrician

who is knowledgeable about this, leaking amniotic

fluid in-and-of-itself does not require immediate

labour & delivery. Now, a total gushing all over the

floor, yes, of course! But a slow leak can be

supported for days if necessary. The two main

concerns are dehydration and infection, both of which

can be successfully managed without resorting to

induction of labour.

 

I was in a minor car accident that caused a slow leak

during the third trimester of my first child. Keeping

the baby in for an extra week was important: she was

born full term as a result. Unfortunately, I did

finally need the pitocin (truly evil....a method of

torture, in my book!) because the contractions never

started on their own even after all that time. But I

bought her an extra week in utero, which makes a huge

difference.

 

I hope this is helpful info for someone else's next

pregnancy,

 

Liz

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even with a complete rupture, the uterus isn't empty of fluid. as the baby

descends it continually " plugs " the uterus and the body continually produces

more amniotic fluid. it's when a woman is kept flat on her back hindering

descent of the baby and then is starved that problems arise with maintaining

amniotic fluid, and of course the chance of infection is greatly higher with

further interventions.

 

 

 

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