fluoride/ ...episio

[Guest guest]

It's been over 5 yrs since my first/3 1/2 since my last, and I still tear after

certain times with hubby. Anybody still suffering this long. Also, had a

recurring yeast infect. same place, adding to my quiet yet never ending

complaint. I finally saw a doctor, who I didn't like, but was trying to be

reasonable that I needed real help instead of self meds. with otc. so he did a

series of expensive tests, some not covered by insurance. Not even mentioning to

me what/why. I just kind of got a creepy feeling from him. And had to go back 3

other times, for things that I'm sure could have been done in fewer visits. When

things like that happen, it reinforces my neg. feelings about doctors and slower

to get treatment. Stupid, really since I'm the only one who is suffering. But

also very uncomfortable with the exam, the waiting, and of course the young lady

who has to come in with him since it's a male doctor. Isn't that the most absurd

thing! IF this guy is a doctor, and whatever

law allowed it, how did that some law making society say there has to be a

witness. Is this supposed to make me feel more comfortable, no it doesn't at

all. Especially, since then they take on some random conversation to pass the

time. HELLO you are all staring at my private parts and talking so casually!

Aughh, very frustrating. Well, I used to go to a female nurse mid wife who I

loved who assissted me with my daughter, but since we moved 2 yrs ago I didn't

have anyone and last year I conceded to get help and saw this doctor. He seemed

fine at the beginning, but made a couple random comments that made me feel

uncomfortable. " this may have happened when some guy " did this or that... Now,

I'm married, so who is " some guy " , very random things like that. Just got me to

thinking I should move on, but they sent me something in the mail the other day

that I'm still overdue for an evaluation, so I don't know if it's better to go

back since he's already done these tests. And he's

familiar with whatever he saw last time. plus I'm still having the same problem

that brought me to him... Sorry, very long and personal, just hoping since it's

close to the birth thread...

 

J

 

Kadee M <abbey_road3012 wrote:

Ah, get me on the episiotomy subject, will ya? After my daughter was

born and we were in our room, a nurse came in the room to check my stitches.

" What stitches?!? " I asked. The doctor explained to me that it was necessary.

Funny, it wasn't necessary the second time with a slightly bigger baby. And the

fact that I was never even told it was done made me reeeeeally mad.

Are all those exams during pregnancy a bad thing? I got so sick of those. And

sitting in the stupid waiting room for an hour just so the doctor can ask if I'm

feeling all right- couldn't that be done over the phone??

 

Kadee Sedtal

 

earthmother <earthmother213 wrote: oh yes, stadol is pretty much

useless. goes right to the baby too. i am

saddened by your story, renee, but i hear it every day, women being treated

like cattle on the assembly line of birth. i won't go off on it completely

here, but suffice to say there is this incredibly psychology behind what

they do to women in the hospital that is so very, very difficult to

overcome. i hear time and time again of women who go in educated and

informed and ready to demand their rights as laboring women to have their

babies in the healthiest and most active way possible, who nevertheless end

up strapped to a bed, where they can't move to use gravity to bring the baby

down and help their labors progress, so they end up with pitocin, which

makes their contractions so unbearable they cannot continue on without

drugs, so they end up with an epi, which straps them to the bed further,

further depletes the usefulness of their labor, so they end up with MORE

pitocin, which the baby doesn't handle well, so the heartbeat starts

fluctuating, and before you know it, that baby has been cut out of her, and

they tell me this story later so incredibly bewildered that this happened to

them. it is just plain sick and abusive what they do to laboring women.

this isn't even including the majority of women whose labors are induced for

convenience, who aren't informed of the many very real and highly likely

risks of induction, or the many women who end up with cesareans for being in

labor for " too long, " or the women who end up with cesareans for being " too

small, " or the women whose waters are broken without permission, who have

multiple vaginal exams without any information about increased risk of

infection, or the women who have episiotomies without even being told it's

going to be done, whose doctors are stuck in the dark ages and have

evidently never seen any of the research about how much worse it is for a

woman to have an episio...ok, i'll stop now. but, i'm sorry that happened

to you.

 

 

[Guest guest]

If you're not comfortable with this doctor go find another. It was always

uncomfortable being in there anyway, I would just hate to have it be someone

creepy!

That casual conversation... rrrrrrgh. " Well yeah, I do like the Star Wars

movies... Almost done? " You'd think maybe they'd realize one day that we do not,

in fact, like to talk *all* the time. Once my doctor asked if I thought the baby

was a boy or girl, and I, being in a bad mood that day, answered, " You're

closer- tell me. " I seriously cannot imagine having that job, though. I felt

beyond awkward when I was a (fully dressed) waitress at a strip club. I would

avert my eyes any time one of the dancers walked by topless... there's another

job I'd never want!

 

Kadee Sedtal

 

janeen minguillo <jminshan wrote:

It's been over 5 yrs since my first/3 1/2 since my last, and I still tear after

certain times with hubby. Anybody still suffering this long. Also, had a

recurring yeast infect. same place, adding to my quiet yet never ending

complaint. I finally saw a doctor, who I didn't like, but was trying to be

reasonable that I needed real help instead of self meds. with otc. so he did a

series of expensive tests, some not covered by insurance. Not even mentioning to

me what/why. I just kind of got a creepy feeling from him. And had to go back 3

other times, for things that I'm sure could have been done in fewer visits. When

things like that happen, it reinforces my neg. feelings about doctors and slower

to get treatment. Stupid, really since I'm the only one who is suffering. But

also very uncomfortable with the exam, the waiting, and of course the young lady

who has to come in with him since it's a male

doctor. Isn't that the most absurd thing! IF this guy is a doctor, and whatever

law allowed it, how did that some law making society say there has to be a

witness. Is this supposed to make me feel more comfortable, no it doesn't at

all. Especially, since then they take on some random conversation to pass the

time. HELLO you are all staring at my private parts and talking so casually!

Aughh, very frustrating. Well, I used to go to a female nurse mid wife who I

loved who assissted me with my daughter, but since we moved 2 yrs ago I didn't

have anyone and last year I conceded to get help and saw this doctor. He seemed

fine at the beginning, but made a couple random comments that made me feel

uncomfortable. " this may have happened when some guy " did this or that... Now,

I'm married, so who is " some guy " , very random things like that. Just got me to

thinking I should move on, but they sent me something in the mail the other day

that I'm still overdue for an evaluation, so I don't know if it's better to go

back since he's already done these tests. And he's

familiar with whatever he saw last time. plus I'm still having the same

problem that brought me to him... Sorry, very long and personal, just hoping

since it's close to the birth thread...

 

J

 

Kadee M <abbey_road3012 wrote:

Ah, get me on the episiotomy subject, will ya? After my daughter was

born and we were in our room, a nurse came in the room to check my stitches.

" What stitches?!? " I asked. The doctor explained to me that it was necessary.

Funny, it wasn't necessary the second time with a slightly bigger baby. And the

fact that I was never even told it was done made me reeeeeally mad.

Are all those exams during pregnancy a bad thing? I got so sick of those. And

sitting in the stupid waiting room for an hour just so the doctor can ask if I'm

feeling all right- couldn't that be done over the phone??

 

Kadee Sedtal

 

earthmother <earthmother213 wrote: oh yes, stadol is pretty much

useless. goes right to the baby too. i am

saddened by your story, renee, but i hear it every day, women being treated

like cattle on the assembly line of birth. i won't go off on it completely

here, but suffice to say there is this incredibly psychology behind what

they do to women in the hospital that is so very, very difficult to

overcome. i hear time and time again of women who go in educated and

informed and ready to demand their rights as laboring women to have their

babies in the healthiest and most active way possible, who nevertheless end

up strapped to a bed, where they can't move to use gravity to bring the baby

down and help their labors progress, so they end up with pitocin, which

makes their contractions so unbearable they cannot continue on without

drugs, so they end up with an epi, which straps them to the bed further,

further depletes the usefulness of their labor, so they end up with MORE

pitocin, which the baby doesn't handle well, so the heartbeat starts

fluctuating, and before you know it, that baby has been cut out of her, and

they tell me this story later so incredibly bewildered that this happened to

them. it is just plain sick and abusive what they do to laboring women.

this isn't even including the majority of women whose labors are induced for

convenience, who aren't informed of the many very real and highly likely

risks of induction, or the many women who end up with cesareans for being in

labor for " too long, " or the women who end up with cesareans for being " too

small, " or the women whose waters are broken without permission, who have

multiple vaginal exams without any information about increased risk of

infection, or the women who have episiotomies without even being told it's

going to be done, whose doctors are stuck in the dark ages and have

evidently never seen any of the research about how much worse it is for a

woman to have an episio...ok, i'll stop now. but, i'm sorry that happened

to you.

 

[Guest guest]

janeen --

 

male doctors have female " witnesses " not so you will feel more comfortable

but to save themselves from litigation. it only has to do with preserving

their spotless reputation so no woman can claim he molested her or

something.

 

i was sort of confused by what you said, but did you mean that you sometimes

tear during intercourse after having an episiotomy? that's a sign of a

really crappy stitch-up job and can usually only be remedied by re-cutting

the area and stitching it better, although this late in the game it might

just be something that might not be fixable. i'm sorry that happened to

you. can you go to a different doctor in maybe a more holistic

practice? maybe call and say that you want the results of whatever tests he

did but that you're switching practices so you want them mailed to you, and

make sure those tests and all your evaluations get faxed to the new

practice, if you hopefully find one. if you can find a CNM in your area who

does well-woman care, maybe get in to see her and then she can refer you to

her head doctor, who is bound to be better if he's in a practice with

nurse-midwives.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thank you. Yes, you got it right. I don't think I could bring myself to go

willingly to be recut and sewn. (Sigh) I'll deal with that, and I'll look in the

area for someone more holistic. Of course the doctor has someone there for legal

reasons, but it just seems so awkward. Especially since the other woman is

usually looking away from embarrassment. Well, Thanks for the support. I'm so

glad to be part of a group like this. Even if it's way off topic.

 

 

 

earthmother <earthmother213 wrote:

janeen --

 

male doctors have female " witnesses " not so you will feel more comfortable

but to save themselves from litigation. it only has to do with preserving

their spotless reputation so no woman can claim he molested her or

something.

 

i was sort of confused by what you said, but did you mean that you sometimes

tear during intercourse after having an episiotomy? that's a sign of a

really crappy stitch-up job and can usually only be remedied by re-cutting

the area and stitching it better, although this late in the game it might

just be something that might not be fixable. i'm sorry that happened to

you. can you go to a different doctor in maybe a more holistic

practice? maybe call and say that you want the results of whatever tests he

did but that you're switching practices so you want them mailed to you, and

make sure those tests and all your evaluations get faxed to the new

practice, if you hopefully find one. if you can find a CNM in your area who

does well-woman care, maybe get in to see her and then she can refer you to

her head doctor, who is bound to be better if he's in a practice with

nurse-midwives.

 

 

[Guest guest]

There must be female health care practioners in your area. I recently took my

daughter to an orthodontist for an evaluation and it was the first time she had

seen a male doctor. Our dentist, opthamologist and family practice doctor are

all women.

 

janeen minguillo <jminshan wrote:

Thank you. Yes, you got it right. I don't think I could bring myself to go

willingly to be recut and sewn. (Sigh) I'll deal with that, and I'll look in the

area for someone more holistic. Of course the doctor has someone there for legal

reasons, but it just seems so awkward. Especially since the other woman is

usually looking away from embarrassment. Well, Thanks for the support. I'm so

glad to be part of a group like this. Even if it's way off topic.

 

 

 

earthmother wrote:

janeen --

 

male doctors have female " witnesses " not so you will feel more comfortable

but to save themselves from litigation. it only has to do with preserving

their spotless reputation so no woman can claim he molested her or

something.

 

i was sort of confused by what you said, but did you mean that you sometimes

tear during intercourse after having an episiotomy? that's a sign of a

really crappy stitch-up job and can usually only be remedied by re-cutting

the area and stitching it better, although this late in the game it might

just be something that might not be fixable. i'm sorry that happened to

you. can you go to a different doctor in maybe a more holistic

practice? maybe call and say that you want the results of whatever tests he

did but that you're switching practices so you want them mailed to you, and

make sure those tests and all your evaluations get faxed to the new

practice, if you hopefully find one. if you can find a CNM in your area who

does well-woman care, maybe get in to see her and then she can refer you to

her head doctor, who is bound to be better if he's in a practice with

nurse-midwives.

 

 

[Guest guest]

it's very uncomfortable having a woman in the room, yes. i had a prolapse

after my son's birth and had to see a urologist and while he was examining

me i was sobbing from the pain. i felt bad for the guy who obviously felt

bad for hurting me, but i was really resentful of this little intern just

sitting there passively. ugh.