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Dear All,

I'm new here and have a question about raising a vegetarian baby. My son, Kyle,

was 3 months premature and is doing great now. He's now 6 months (3 months

adjusted) and we're going to start solids this weekend. His pediatrician seemed

concerned that we (his parents) are vegetarian (she assumed I'm anemic which I'm

not) and said he'll need meat to get enough iron. I believe you can get iron

from other sources and was wondering if anyone else has experience raising a

baby vegetarian from birth (premature or full-term). He has a meeting with a

dietician and I'm reading as much as I can-just hoping to get some of your

stories.

Best,

Amy

Geneva, Switzerland

 

 

 

 

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Is it possible that you can switch him to a smarter doctor? Do some " shopping

around " so to speak and find someone more intelligent? At six months old your

son diet should be mostly liquid and your breastmilk will contain all the

nutrients (including iron) that he needs. And if he is on formula there are

laws that mandate the nutrition requirements of formula. And for that matter

Gerber Rice cereal has all the iron your baby should need for as long as he is

eating that (not sure about other brands you may have in switzerland). But

honestly any fortified hot cereals should have a pretty good amount of iron in

it regardless. Eating anything else (beyond breastmilk/formula and cereal)

should be just to introduce your baby to textures and not so much their

nutritional content. With that in mind introduce your child to the foods

you'll want him to eat plenty of as he grows older (like spinach) and avoid

foods that are possible allergens (like strawberries).

Renee

 

Amy Merwin <amymerwin wrote:

Dear All,

I'm new here and have a question about raising a vegetarian baby. My son,

Kyle, was 3 months premature and is doing great now. He's now 6 months (3

months adjusted) and we're going to start solids this weekend. His pediatrician

seemed concerned that we (his parents) are vegetarian (she assumed I'm anemic

which I'm not) and said he'll need meat to get enough iron. I believe you can

get iron from other sources and was wondering if anyone else has experience

raising a baby vegetarian from birth (premature or full-term). He has a meeting

with a dietician and I'm reading as much as I can-just hoping to get some of

your stories.

Best,

Amy

Geneva, Switzerland

 

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You might really want to buy a good nutrition book for your little guy's

pediatrician! I'd really wait till later on the solids, at least till he's six

months adjusted age... I gave my kids solid food at three months with no

problems, but the more I read the more I wish I'd have waited till six months.

Kyle will be absolutely fine on a vegetarian diet. He'll probably even live

longer because of it! I've been a vegetarian for ten years, and neither of my

kids have ever eaten meat. Both kids are very, very healthy and smart as can be.

I'm also very healthy- healthier than most meat-eaters I know. :) You're doing

your little one a big favor by raising him this way. It's really sad, though,

that his doctor is so misinformed. I've not had to deal with an unsupportive

doctor yet (though since hubby is in the Air Force we'll no doubt move somewhere

with a veg-unfriendly doctor), but if I ever come across one I'm going to really

get on their backs till they get some accurate

information. Isn't it scary how someone who obviously doesn't know much at all

about nutrition is handing out advice? I hate thinking about how many vegetarian

parents out there have chosen to feed their children meat based on what the

pediatrician said. As long as Kyle is getting a good variety of foods, he will

be just fine. Beans are a great source of iron, and my kids love them.

 

Kadee Sedtal

 

Amy Merwin <amymerwin wrote: Dear

All,

I'm new here and have a question about raising a vegetarian baby. My son, Kyle,

was 3 months premature and is doing great now. He's now 6 months (3 months

adjusted) and we're going to start solids this weekend. His pediatrician seemed

concerned that we (his parents) are vegetarian (she assumed I'm anemic which I'm

not) and said he'll need meat to get enough iron. I believe you can get iron

from other sources and was wondering if anyone else has experience raising a

baby vegetarian from birth (premature or full-term). He has a meeting with a

dietician and I'm reading as much as I can-just hoping to get some of your

stories.

Best,

Amy

Geneva, Switzerland

 

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hi amy. we have raised our son, isaiah, vegan from birth. i educated

myself extensively in nutrition and every 6 weeks or so i do an assessment

to make sure that his diet is up to par. without hardly trying he always

gets more of every nutrient -- including protein and calcium -- than he even

needs, without supplementing at all. the only nutrient we've struggled with

is fat (ironically). we've had to really work to get enough fat in his

diet. but other than that he is above-level on everything else. he is 18

months old now, 33 inches tall, and weighs 25 pounds. he is either advanced

or right where he should be developmentally both physically and mentally.

so i would say yes, you most certainly can raise your baby healthy

vegetarian!!!

 

chandelle'

 

 

 

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Hi Amy,

 

Three months sounds a bit young for solids. We started with an iron fortified

brown rice cereal mixed with breast milk at seven months and added one new food

a week. You will need to avoid the potential allergy triggers for at least a

year, these include soy, wheat, strawberries, citrus, eggs, dairy; this is not a

complete list, just what I have on the top of my head. For finger food, we

started with puffed brown rice and added other simple, whole grain foods that

did not need teeth.

 

Robin

 

Amy Merwin <amymerwin wrote:

Dear All,

I'm new here and have a question about raising a vegetarian baby. My son, Kyle,

was 3 months premature and is doing great now. He's now 6 months (3 months

adjusted) and we're going to start solids this weekend. His pediatrician seemed

concerned that we (his parents) are vegetarian (she assumed I'm anemic which I'm

not) and said he'll need meat to get enough iron. I believe you can get iron

from other sources and was wondering if anyone else has experience raising a

baby vegetarian from birth (premature or full-term). He has a meeting with a

dietician and I'm reading as much as I can-just hoping to get some of your

stories.

Best,

Amy

Geneva, Switzerland

 

 

 

 

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Interview for a new doctor!

 

Amy Merwin <amymerwin wrote: Dear All,

I'm new here and have a question about raising a vegetarian baby. My son, Kyle,

was 3 months premature and is doing great now. He's now 6 months (3 months

adjusted) and we're going to start solids this weekend. His pediatrician seemed

concerned that we (his parents) are vegetarian (she assumed I'm anemic which I'm

not) and said he'll need meat to get enough iron. I believe you can get iron

from other sources and was wondering if anyone else has experience raising a

baby vegetarian from birth (premature or full-term). He has a meeting with a

dietician and I'm reading as much as I can-just hoping to get some of your

stories.

Best,

Amy

Geneva, Switzerland

 

 

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My 22 month old has been vegetarian since birth. He is completely healthy. His

pediatrician was fine with it. She suggested a vitamin with iron, which he takes

daily!

 

Amy Merwin <amymerwin wrote: Dear

All,

I'm new here and have a question about raising a vegetarian baby. My son, Kyle,

was 3 months premature and is doing great now. He's now 6 months (3 months

adjusted) and we're going to start solids this weekend. His pediatrician seemed

concerned that we (his parents) are vegetarian (she assumed I'm anemic which I'm

not) and said he'll need meat to get enough iron. I believe you can get iron

from other sources and was wondering if anyone else has experience raising a

baby vegetarian from birth (premature or full-term). He has a meeting with a

dietician and I'm reading as much as I can-just hoping to get some of your

stories.

Best,

Amy

Geneva, Switzerland

 

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That's is a great suggestion. Medicine is a consumer good and you should be

satified with your purchase. If you open a tub of tofu that is spoiled,

wouldn't you return it? We chose to take our daughter to our family practioner,

rather than a pediatrician. My spouse, daughter, sister, nephew,

brother-in-law, many friends and I all see the same doctor - true family

medicine.

 

Tricia McElwee <triciamcelwee wrote: Interview for a new doctor!

 

Amy Merwin wrote: Dear All,

I'm new here and have a question about raising a vegetarian baby. My son, Kyle,

was 3 months premature and is doing great now. He's now 6 months (3 months

adjusted) and we're going to start solids this weekend. His pediatrician seemed

concerned that we (his parents) are vegetarian (she assumed I'm anemic which I'm

not) and said he'll need meat to get enough iron. I believe you can get iron

from other sources and was wondering if anyone else has experience raising a

baby vegetarian from birth (premature or full-term). He has a meeting with a

dietician and I'm reading as much as I can-just hoping to get some of your

stories.

Best,

Amy

Geneva, Switzerland

 

 

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i would also keep in mind that most doctors do not attend even one nutrition

class in med school. only rarely do doctors who are not planning to go into

dietetics have any sort of professional nutritional education. so basically

most doctors are going off of the same stereotypes and unfounded prejudice

that the general public is about veg diets. don't assume that a doctor

knows all! chances are she knows no more about nutrition than the average

joe (or jane) shmoe. your doctor's automatic assumption that you would be

anemic -- a very common misconception by people not the least bit educated

in nutrition that is rarely founded in reality -- should be a great big red

flag that she probably knows nothing about nutrition, much less veg diets.

 

i guess you're not vegan, but i still think the book " raising vegan children

in a non-vegan world " could be useful for you. it has tons of nutritional

information and advice for approaching everyday omnivore confrontations,

like school meals, field trips, " treats " from family members, etc. i refer

to it often, sometimes just to keep me sane and let me know that i'm not

alone!

 

if you're really getting harassment from your doctor, and don't want to

consider going to someone else, do a food chart for your child for a week

and point out where he is getting his full dose of nutrients every day.

most people feel more comfortable actually seeing where the nutrition is

coming from. also, i agree with what kadee said...you might really want to

wait on solids. six months, or three months adjusted, is really very

early. i'm not sure if your baby is nursing or not, but there's no reason

to rush solids if he is, and in fact there are a great many good reasons to

delay. if he's on formula, that's something else. but breastmilk provides

perfect nutrition for AT LEAST the first 6 months and often for long after.

i know that a lot of preemies never get the hang of nursing in the first

place, so maybe it's not an issue. and i know that many preemies are born

and remain anemic for a long time -- maybe that's why you're getting

pressure to start solids, if you are. but as a student midwife and a

devoted student of nutrition, i always suggest delaying solids as long as

possible. if it's an iron issue, there are ways to correct that without

beginning solids too early. and whether your child is on breastmilk or

formula, if he's just beginning solids, it's awfully early for your doctor

to be concerned ALREADY with a veg diet. babies aren't really supposed to

have meat the first year anyway so i think it's pretty obvious that your

doctor has some unfounded suppositions about a veg diet that probably need

to be straightened out if you don't want many battles in the future.

 

chandelle'

 

 

 

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i always recommend a generalized practitioner (family practice, general

practitioner, whatever term they use) rather than someone specialized.

maybe this isn't an option if you have a preemie who might need some

specialized services. but just like i'd tell a pregnant client, if you

don't want surgery, don't go to a surgeon. for basic checkups, i don't

think there's any reason to see a specialist. FPs/GPs tend to be much more

relaxed, laid-back, friendly, and open in their communication than

specialists. we don't really bother using doctors anymore, but when my son

was a newborn i went to an FP, and he was freakin' awesome, thrilled that i

wanted to extended-breastfeed, pleased that we didn't circumcise, happy that

we were doing the research on vaccinations, and supportive of raising our

son vegan. very refreshing!

 

 

 

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Hi Amy,

 

I was just reading that " The main cause of iron deficiency in the

first six months is prematurity, leading to inadequate accumulation of

iron in the newborn's iron stores. " ( See:

http://www.ironpanel.org.au/AIS/AISdocs/childdocs/Ccauses.html) So

regardless of whether you are vegetarian or not, your pediatrician may

be concerned about his iron stores because of this.

 

As for my story:

 

I have a 6 year old and a 3 year old who were both raised vegetarian

from birth (both were full term). Both are very healthy and intelligent.

 

My doctor at the time my first baby was about a year old, was concerned

about our vegetarian diet and iron. She asked us to have his iron

levels tested which was a horrendous experience for a one year old (the

nurse had trouble finding veins and poked and prodded him quite a

bit.). In the end he was not anemic but a little on the low side of

normal. We decided to supplement with iron at that point and we've

never had any problems. The research I did on the internet at that time

suggested that many children (both meat eating or not) are deficient in

iron and should have iron supplementation...and that many children are

developmentally delayed because of low iron levels.

 

With my second child, I gave her iron supplemented rice cereal around 6

months of age, and gave her an iron fortified vitamin after she outgrew

the cereal. She also had some eggs after she was 1 for the iron and DHA

(we have alternated between not eating eggs and eating them...and not

eating them. Luckily we have access to free range eggs from my mother's

farm where no rooster lives...so I know the hens are well treated and

fed properly, and we won't be finding any dead chicks in the eggs...) I

also made sure that I had adequate iron through foods & vitamins during

pregnancy and breastfeeding (until she was over 2).

 

Lentils, tofu, almonds, sea weeds, dried fruit (raisins, apricots),

yams, & leafy dark green vegetables like Kale & Broccoli are all sources

of iron. You can increase your iron absorption by eating iron rich

foods with Vitamin C which will increase your absorption of the iron.

For example eat an orange after your broccoli or put Kale into your

tomato sauce. I also cook with a cast iron frying pan which is supposed

to increase the iron content of foods. (Plus it has the advantage of

being a non stick surface with no Teflon).

 

One thing to watch for with the iron supplements is that too much iron

can cause constipation. I think vegetarians may have less problem with

this because we eat more fiber and therefore suffer less constipation.

Also, be careful to store the iron where kids can't get it as iron

overdose can cause death.

 

All the best with this,

 

Melanie

 

 

 

 

 

 

Amy Merwin wrote:

> Dear All,

> I'm new here and have a question about raising a vegetarian baby. My son,

Kyle, was 3 months premature and is doing great now. He's now 6 months (3 months

adjusted) and we're going to start solids this weekend. His pediatrician seemed

concerned that we (his parents) are vegetarian (she assumed I'm anemic which I'm

not) and said he'll need meat to get enough iron. I believe you can get iron

from other sources and was wondering if anyone else has experience raising a

baby vegetarian from birth (premature or full-term). He has a meeting with a

dietician and I'm reading as much as I can-just hoping to get some of your

stories.

> Best,

> Amy

> Geneva, Switzerland

>

>

>

>

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Too bad they haven't perfected human cloning. I'd want one of your doctor. :)

 

Kadee Sedtal

 

earthmother <earthmother213 wrote: i

always recommend a generalized practitioner (family practice, general

practitioner, whatever term they use) rather than someone specialized.

maybe this isn't an option if you have a preemie who might need some

specialized services. but just like i'd tell a pregnant client, if you

don't want surgery, don't go to a surgeon. for basic checkups, i don't

think there's any reason to see a specialist. FPs/GPs tend to be much more

relaxed, laid-back, friendly, and open in their communication than

specialists. we don't really bother using doctors anymore, but when my son

was a newborn i went to an FP, and he was freakin' awesome, thrilled that i

wanted to extended-breastfeed, pleased that we didn't circumcise, happy that

we were doing the research on vaccinations, and supportive of raising our

son vegan. very refreshing!

 

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i always consider it very ironic that i struggled with anemia for years as

an avid meat-eater, but my blood levels have been perfect since i went

vegan, even in pregnancy.

 

 

 

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Hey Amy,

 

I would definitely agree with the other parents who say wait until 6

months for you another 3 months. I suggest getting the book Vive Le

Vegan by Dreena Burton - as it has a " Feeding Your Vegan Baby andler section that includes a Food Introduction Guideline and

detailed notes on introducing solid foods to your vegan child from 6

months to 2 years to minimize allergic reactions and provide a wide

variety of nutritionally sound vegan foods. " (taken from the everyday

vegan webpage) I weaned my daughter at 4months because she was soo

hungry and just kept drinking loads of (formula) milk. Everyone was

like wean her! but i would have liked to have put it until she was 6

months. People have a backward attitude to weaning here and i have a

friend was feeding her daughter at her christening (she was no older

than 2months!!!)

 

I'm in Ireland and i also find that a lot of are doctors are very

ignorant when its comes to vegetarian/vegan even when they are trying

to be nice. Definitely get a new doctor!

 

Even though i try to give me 2yr old daughter as healthly food as

possible sometime she can be really stubborn & i now i give her a

mulitivitamin including iron. For a while i was giving her a small

bit of blackstrap molasses from a teaspoon but that didn't last

long. Look up the following for vegan sources of iron

http://www.vegansociety.com/html/food/nutrition/iron.php

 

Hope that helps

Una

 

 

, Amy Merwin <amymerwin wrote:

>

> Dear All,

> I'm new here and have a question about raising a vegetarian baby.

My son, Kyle, was 3 months premature and is doing great now. He's now

6 months (3 months adjusted) and we're going to start solids this

weekend. His pediatrician seemed concerned that we (his parents) are

vegetarian (she assumed I'm anemic which I'm not) and said he'll need

meat to get enough iron. I believe you can get iron from other

sources and was wondering if anyone else has experience raising a

baby vegetarian from birth (premature or full-term). He has a meeting

with a dietician and I'm reading as much as I can-just hoping to get

some of your stories.

> Best,

> Amy

> Geneva, Switzerland

>

>

>

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My first advice is to wait on solids at all or at least go VERY

slow. Like you said, your baby is actually only 3 months adjusted

and his digestive system is probobly not as far along as a 6 month

old that was to term. Second, your doctor is COMPLETELY wrong about

needing meat. For one thing, even non-vegetarian babies typically

don't start eating meat until 10-12 months. Second, there are MANY

MANY healthy vegetarian children (my own included) who have never

had meat in their lives. Definately do your homework though before

meeting with the dietician. If they are ignorant of vegetarian

health, you will be much better off being armed with the power of

knowledge. There are lots of good books and websites with good

nutritian information, including the vrg website.

 

, Amy Merwin <amymerwin wrote:

>

> Dear All,

> I'm new here and have a question about raising a vegetarian baby.

My son, Kyle, was 3 months premature and is doing great now. He's

now 6 months (3 months adjusted) and we're going to start solids

this weekend. His pediatrician seemed concerned that we (his

parents) are vegetarian (she assumed I'm anemic which I'm not) and

said he'll need meat to get enough iron. I believe you can get iron

from other sources and was wondering if anyone else has experience

raising a baby vegetarian from birth (premature or full-term). He

has a meeting with a dietician and I'm reading as much as I can-just

hoping to get some of your stories.

> Best,

> Amy

> Geneva, Switzerland

>

>

>

>

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Hello Amy,

 

Congratulations on the birth of your son. I, too, have a preemie. He was born

at 27.5 weeks. 1 pound 9 ounces. He has been a vegan since we've been home

from the NICU. I shopped around for a pediatrician that would not fight me on

his diet and vaccinations. If you can't find that, you need to become the

expert. Your son doesn't need to eat meat for any reason. Max is now 18 months

and doing fabulously. At his one year check up all his bloodwork was

great....two boys in our neighborhood around his age were anemic and they are

meet eaters! I didn't start Max on solid foods until he was 6 months adjusted.

I pumped for 15 months because he wouldn't really breastfeed. Now he eats like

a champ. I make all his food and freeze most of it in ice cube trays. Don't be

in too much of a hurry to introduce foods....there's lots of research suggesting

that it can cause problems later in life like Diabetes, etc. As long as Kyle is

gaining weight and keeping on his growth chart path...no worries. I'd be happy

to chat/email with you anytime about preemie things. It's quite a

journey....congratulations again

 

Susan Scott

 

 

 

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Hi Amy

 

I haven't read other replies yet. but thought i'd tell

you my experience with it

We have been vegetarian by birth and our son (2 1/2 yr

old) is vegetarian by birth as well.

He was born full tern but sometime after his first

birthday for some other reasons we had to do a blood

checkup for him and it turned out that he was anemic.

And I was anemic durin pregnancy as well.

but then I have been eating as well as feeding my son

all kinds of iron rich food and so i was really

concerned by this result. but the doc said it was

possible that mine and my sons iron absorption is less

than normal.

Anyways as per the docs suggestion i gave him

vitamins(with iron) drops (don't remember the name at

this moment) for a few months and then stopped it

later.

He seems to be perfectly ok otherwise.

 

No time during this course the doc raised any

questions abt us being veg as a reason.

Try some of the following when your baby is old enough

to start eating these things,

- when u give multigrain/whole grain and similar food

try to give orange juice or other citrus (it

increases iron absorption)

- potato, brocolli, spinach

- dates, raisins and some nuts are also good source of

iron.

 

--- wrote:

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> 2a. Vegetarian Baby?

> Posted by: " Amy Merwin " amymerwin

> amymerwin

> Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:43 am (PDT)

>

> Dear All,

> I'm new here and have a question about raising a

> vegetarian baby. My son, Kyle, was 3 months

> premature and is doing great now. He's now 6 months

> (3 months adjusted) and we're going to start solids

> this weekend. His pediatrician seemed concerned that

> we (his parents) are vegetarian (she assumed I'm

> anemic which I'm not) and said he'll need meat to

> get enough iron. I believe you can get iron from

> other sources and was wondering if anyone else has

> experience raising a baby vegetarian from birth

> (premature or full-term). He has a meeting with a

> dietician and I'm reading as much as I can-just

> hoping to get some of your stories.

> Best,

> Amy

> Geneva, Switzerland

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I haven't read all of the posts yet. I'm just catching up. I also had a

preemie born at 25 weeks. She was vegan until 18 months when my sil thought it

was ok to introduce her to McDonalds. She is now 9yo and a vegetarian and

completely healthy. Infact, when all of the kids in school get sick, she

doesn't. My 2 yo, full term, is also veg from birth and my 12 yo is now vegan

by her own choice. Our ped doesn't know very much about veganism but when he

asked me what I was feeding the kids I mentioned a few things and he was ok. He

asked my oldest where she gets protien when she went vegan. He was surprised to

here her spout off about how the human body doesn't need all that protein, even

when it is growing at it's fastest rates during infancy and teen years. She

also gave him the percentages of protein in several veg foods. I think he felt

better after that. Also, they are growing, at healthy weights and very rarely

get sick. How could anyone complain about that?

Carol

 

Susan Scott <earthgrl wrote:

Hello Amy,

 

Congratulations on the birth of your son. I, too, have a preemie. He was born at

27.5 weeks. 1 pound 9 ounces. He has been a vegan since we've been home from the

NICU. I shopped around for a pediatrician that would not fight me on his diet

and vaccinations. If you can't find that, you need to become the expert. Your

son doesn't need to eat meat for any reason. Max is now 18 months and doing

fabulously. At his one year check up all his bloodwork was great....two boys in

our neighborhood around his age were anemic and they are meet eaters! I didn't

start Max on solid foods until he was 6 months adjusted. I pumped for 15 months

because he wouldn't really breastfeed. Now he eats like a champ. I make all his

food and freeze most of it in ice cube trays. Don't be in too much of a hurry to

introduce foods....there's lots of research suggesting that it can cause

problems later in life like Diabetes, etc. As long as Kyle is gaining weight and

keeping on his growth chart path...no

worries. I'd be happy to chat/email with you anytime about preemie things. It's

quite a journey....congratulations again

 

Susan Scott

 

 

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That's great about your daughter telling her doctor all that nutrition

information!! When my kids are a bit older I do hope they'll know that

much about what they eat. :)

 

Kadee Sedtal

 

, carol sobczak <cpsobczak wrote:

>

> I haven't read all of the posts yet. I'm just catching up. I also

had a preemie born at 25 weeks. She was vegan until 18 months when my

sil thought it was ok to introduce her to McDonalds. She is now 9yo

and a vegetarian and completely healthy. Infact, when all of the kids

in school get sick, she doesn't. My 2 yo, full term, is also veg from

birth and my 12 yo is now vegan by her own choice. Our ped doesn't

know very much about veganism but when he asked me what I was feeding

the kids I mentioned a few things and he was ok. He asked my oldest

where she gets protien when she went vegan. He was surprised to here

her spout off about how the human body doesn't need all that protein,

even when it is growing at it's fastest rates during infancy and teen

years. She also gave him the percentages of protein in several veg

foods. I think he felt better after that. Also, they are growing, at

healthy weights and very rarely get sick. How could anyone complain

about that?

> Carol

>

> Susan Scott <earthgrl wrote:

> Hello Amy,

>

> Congratulations on the birth of your son. I, too, have a preemie. He

was born at 27.5 weeks. 1 pound 9 ounces. He has been a vegan since

we've been home from the NICU. I shopped around for a pediatrician

that would not fight me on his diet and vaccinations. If you can't

find that, you need to become the expert. Your son doesn't need to eat

meat for any reason. Max is now 18 months and doing fabulously. At his

one year check up all his bloodwork was great....two boys in our

neighborhood around his age were anemic and they are meet eaters! I

didn't start Max on solid foods until he was 6 months adjusted. I

pumped for 15 months because he wouldn't really breastfeed. Now he

eats like a champ. I make all his food and freeze most of it in ice

cube trays. Don't be in too much of a hurry to introduce

foods....there's lots of research suggesting that it can cause

problems later in life like Diabetes, etc. As long as Kyle is gaining

weight and keeping on his growth chart path...no

> worries. I'd be happy to chat/email with you anytime about preemie

things. It's quite a journey....congratulations again

>

> Susan Scott

>

>

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