Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 We are having trouble getting our dishes clean in the dishwasher. Initially I was using ECOVER tablets. I was putting them in the dispenser. Then someone at the hfs told us to try putting them right in the cutlery tray. I think this worked for awhile (the dishes were always spotty but I can live with clean and spotty) but then the dishes were no longer getting cleaned. Around that time the problems came up with the dishwasher. I was unaware it was a dishwasher problem and figured it was a natural cleanser problem (my Cascade using mother never has these problems! ). I switched to Nature Clean dishwasher gel. Still no luck. We've since replaced the dishwasher but I would like to know what products all of you are using and what works/doesn't in your experience. also, rinse aid, yes or no? Thanks for your advice. I have finally found 'my' products for most things but not this. It gets really expensive trying out various products so if I can learn from your experiences that would be great. :)Madeline _______________ Enter the " Telus Mobility Xbox a Day " contest for your chance to WIN! Telus Mobility is giving away an Microsoft Xbox® 360 every day from November 20 to December 31, 2006! Just download Windows Live (MSN) Messenger to your IM-capable TELUS mobile phone, and you could be a winner! http://www.telusmobility.com/msnxbox/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 I can't answer all of your points, but I do know that some dishwasher manufacturers make a point of saying " no liquid detergents " . Also, you might want to check how soft the water is in your house/community, which can seriously affect how well things get clean. Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 In my experience, nothing beats hand-washing. The problems you speak of drove me back to hand-washing, which I find is almost as fast, relaxing .... and better for the planet. ~Paul Madeline White wrote: > We are having trouble getting our dishes clean in the dishwasher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 I'm not sure if it will help in your case, but when my dishes weren't coming out clean I called the manufacturer and they told me to put a cup of vinegar in the dishwasher, let it sit for at least an hour and then run it through a cycle empty. It always seems to help mine. Jill , ERB <bakwin wrote: > > I can't answer all of your points, but I do know that > some dishwasher manufacturers make a point of saying > " no liquid detergents " . > > Also, you might want to check how soft the water is in > your house/community, which can seriously affect how > well things get clean. > > Liz > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 Where did you put the vinegar? I've heard of this as a cleaning trick and want to know more... >I'm not sure if it will help in your case, but when my dishes weren't >coming out clean I called the manufacturer and they told me to put a >cup of vinegar in the dishwasher, let it sit for at least an hour and >then run it through a cycle empty. It always seems to help mine. >Jill > > , ERB <bakwin wrote: >> >> I can't answer all of your points, but I do know that >> some dishwasher manufacturers make a point of saying >> " no liquid detergents " . >> >> Also, you might want to check how soft the water is in >> your house/community, which can seriously affect how >> well things get clean. >> >> Liz >> > > > > >For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG >website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful >for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion >list and is not intended to provide personal medical advice. Medical >advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. > >edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified >health professional. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 You just pour it into the bottom of your dishwasher and run it through a whole cycle. They told me that it is best to use the Sanation cycle, that is boiling water temp, so that any oil build in there will be removed. The vinegar helps. Judy - darranged Sunday, December 03, 2006 12:39 PM Re: dishwasher Where did you put the vinegar? I've heard of this as a cleaning trick and want to know more... >I'm not sure if it will help in your case, but when my dishes weren't >coming out clean I called the manufacturer and they told me to put a >cup of vinegar in the dishwasher, let it sit for at least an hour and >then run it through a cycle empty. It always seems to help mine. >Jill > > , ERB <bakwin wrote: >> >> I can't answer all of your points, but I do know that >> some dishwasher manufacturers make a point of saying >> " no liquid detergents " . >> >> Also, you might want to check how soft the water is in >> your house/community, which can seriously affect how >> well things get clean. >> >> Liz >> > > > > >For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG >website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful >for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion >list and is not intended to provide personal medical advice. Medical >advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. > >edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified >health professional. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Fill a heavy cup (I use a coffee cup) with vinegar and put it on the top rack upright. The water sloshing around gets the vinegar all over, if you just pour it in it will go down the drain first thing. Run a cycle with just the cup of vinegar. darranged wrote: Where did you put the vinegar? I've heard of this as a cleaning trick and want to know more... >I'm not sure if it will help in your case, but when my dishes weren't >coming out clean I called the manufacturer and they told me to put a >cup of vinegar in the dishwasher, let it sit for at least an hour and >then run it through a cycle empty. It always seems to help mine. >Jill > > , ERB <bakwin wrote: >> >> I can't answer all of your points, but I do know that >> some dishwasher manufacturers make a point of saying >> " no liquid detergents " . >> >> Also, you might want to check how soft the water is in >> your house/community, which can seriously affect how >> well things get clean. >> >> Liz >> > > > > >For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG >website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful >for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion >list and is not intended to provide personal medical advice. Medical >advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. > >edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified >health professional. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Maybe I'm defeating the purpose of a dishwasher, but I rinse all my dishes until they are spotless before putting them in the dishwasher and just use the dishwasher as a sanitizer! Therefore, I always have clean dishes! Currently, I'm using 7th Generation dishwasher powder. - Jill Wenzel Saturday, December 02, 2006 11:53 PM Re: dishwasher I'm not sure if it will help in your case, but when my dishes weren't coming out clean I called the manufacturer and they told me to put a cup of vinegar in the dishwasher, let it sit for at least an hour and then run it through a cycle empty. It always seems to help mine. Jill , ERB <bakwin wrote: > > I can't answer all of your points, but I do know that > some dishwasher manufacturers make a point of saying > " no liquid detergents " . > > Also, you might want to check how soft the water is in > your house/community, which can seriously affect how > well things get clean. > > Liz > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Paul are you sure it is better for the planet? That was a big arguement here. I finally directed Jeff to a green site that was promoting e-efficient dishwashers as better than hand washing. In this case it wasn't enough to sway him but when I left most of the dishes for him he reconsidered. We only use friendly products, never put plastics in and never use the dry cycle. I'd be interested to read any comments about it not being better for the planet (though I may not share them with Jeff:) ) Madeline >Paul Falvo <pfalvo > > >Re: dishwasher >Sat, 02 Dec 2006 18:35:24 -0700 > >In my experience, nothing beats hand-washing. The problems you speak of >drove me back to hand-washing, which I find is almost as fast, relaxing >... and better for the planet. > >~Paul > >Madeline White wrote: > > We are having trouble getting our dishes clean in the dishwasher. _______________ Enter the " Telus Mobility Xbox a Day " contest for your chance to WIN! Telus Mobility is giving away an Microsoft Xbox® 360 every day from November 20 to December 31, 2006! Just download Windows Live (MSN) Messenger to your IM-capable TELUS mobile phone, and you could be a winner! http://www.telusmobility.com/msnxbox/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 Thanks, Madeline It was a big debate here too -- and I have an eco-conscious friend who disagrees with me. Sounds like Jeff and I would get along. It comes down imho to HOW you do your dishes. And likely how your dishwasher does them (ie how efficient it is). Plus how you heat your water and how electricity is made where you live. When I open the dishwasher door and all that heat comes out I cannot believe it is using less energy than I am by hand. And on top of the hot water there is the electricity it used. AND the soap is harsher on the planet. Added to that is all the energy and resources it took to make the dishwasher -- and then landfill for its ultimate disposal. (Habitat destruction, etc.). Given some of the dishes are still dirty and it takes time to load and unload -- plus that I find washing dishes relaxing and meditative -- I tend to opt for hand wash unless we have a big pile. But our new house does not have a dishwasher so we are pleased with that and you can all come to the housewarming. Wash your own dishes. Kidding. ~Paul Madeline White wrote: > Paul > > are you sure it is better for the planet? That was a big arguement here. I > finally directed Jeff to a green site that was promoting e-efficient > dishwashers as better than hand washing. In this case it wasn't enough to > sway him but when I left most of the dishes for him he reconsidered. We > only use friendly products, never put plastics in and never use the dry > cycle. I'd be interested to read any comments about it not being better for > the planet (though I may not share them with Jeff:) ) Madeline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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