Guest guest Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 , earthmother <earthmother213 wrote: > > i am posting this here because i know the people on this list are the only > ones who would understand. this is SO frustrating. > Sounds like a VERY frustrating situation. Be VERY thankful that your husband stands up to his mother. Mine will - but only to a point. Christmas day had to include a tray of dead animal being brought into my house or, as my MIL says " The men won't come if they can't eat meat " . I could have lived without in-laws over, but hubby wouldn't take that stand with me. My MIL is the same when it comes to equating food with love. I have never been to her house when she hasn't asked a dozen times if I wanted something to eat or drink (she only has sodas and we gave that up years ago, but she still offers it). And she loves to tell me about the latest recipe she tried and always adds " well, it has chicken/meat/whatever, but you could cook it without. " We're also veg and I'm going to start gearing us toward vegan. Which is not going to go over well with hubby (loves his cheese) or MIL. But daughter will handle it just fine. She's 2 and goes to a school 3 half days in which they serve lunch - but not veg must less vegan. So I send lunch with her and we talk about how other people eat meat, but that meat comes from cows and we don't eat cows, chickens, etc. So when someone offers her something with meat, I just tell her it has meat and she says " We don't eat meat. Other people eat meat, but we don't eat meat. " (very cute to hear her say it!). So maybe your son could chime in, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 I just wanted to weigh in with a positive family story. My parents are staunch meat-eaters -- they have always accepted that we don't eat it, but had no interest in changing their own habits or hearing anything about our reasons. Our family went vegan about 6 months ago, and my parents knew better than to outright object (just comments like, " but they don't kill animals to get milk and eggs, so why on earth is it a problem? " and " but what will you eat? " ). One day a few months back they were visiting for lunch. I set out our rice milk. My mom grimaced and asked for a glass of water, but my father said he'd try a glass. He didn't say anything to me, but the next day my mom phoned to ask where we buy " that stuff " because Dad liked it so much he asked her to buy some for their house. We bought a case of rice milk and gave it to them. Fast forward a few weeks -- my sister phones me and says " Did you know Dad gave up milk? He just phoned me and told me he thinks I should stop drinking it too! " . I e-mailed Dad to inquire -- he said they'd run out of cow's milk so for a week he'd only drank the rice milk, and suddenly he felt great and the digestive problems he's had for years vanished. My mom still refused to drink it, but at least she's got to be gaining some awareness. Dad wrapped up containers of rice milk at Christmas for his father, to get him to try it too, and he's telling all his friends -- and suddenly Dad's a little more open to hearing about the problems with eating animal protein! And... my sister has stopped drinking milk too! With this new-found openness, I decided to push it a little. Dad has always been sure he'll either die young or end up feeble and helpless in a nursing home. I bought a copy of Healthy at 100 for him for Christmas and kind of played dumb -- said I hadn't read it (true) but I'd seen a couple of great reviews and I know he has fears about aging so thought it might interest him. Didn't mention anything about the author being veg. My mom told me last week that she read it and it was really interesting, and now Dad is reading it too. So who knows. I had mentioned here a while back that I was planning to make a cookbook to give to our families to try to demystify our diet a bit -- It went over quite well, I ran out of copies immediately even though I thought I'd end up with several gathering dust! I handed them out at Christmas. Both my grandmothers asked me for copies, which really surprised me (the one at least I think is just proud because I made it, and she wants to show her friends, which is fine), and a good friend of my parents who has diabetes asked for one too. My aunt keeps e-mailing me to say she's tried another recipe and enjoyed it. My MIL was skeptical, she didn't even pick it up for weeks -- she felt that I was trying to push her to learn new things and it was far too complicated (which it isn't, she only though that because she hadn't opened it). I put in lots of pics of our kids looking cute for grandparent appeal. Anyway -- with all the negative experiences, I thought I'd add some positive stuff. I've been veg for 16 years and this is the first time we've really seen any openness or shifts in our family, so I'm excited. Heather in Ontario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 that;s awesome, heather! i am reading " healthy at 100 " right now. it's really great. On 1/31/07, Heather Hossfeld <hlh4850 wrote: > > I just wanted to weigh in with a positive family story. My parents are > staunch meat-eaters -- they have always accepted that we don't eat it, > but had no interest in changing their own habits or hearing anything > about our reasons. Our family went vegan about 6 months ago, and my > parents knew better than to outright object (just comments like, " but > they don't kill animals to get milk and eggs, so why on earth is it a > problem? " and " but what will you eat? " ). > > One day a few months back they were visiting for lunch. I set out our > rice milk. My mom grimaced and asked for a glass of water, but my father > said he'd try a glass. He didn't say anything to me, but the next day my > mom phoned to ask where we buy " that stuff " because Dad liked it so much > he asked her to buy some for their house. We bought a case of rice milk > and gave it to them. > > Fast forward a few weeks -- my sister phones me and says " Did you know > Dad gave up milk? He just phoned me and told me he thinks I should stop > drinking it too! " . I e-mailed Dad to inquire -- he said they'd run out > of cow's milk so for a week he'd only drank the rice milk, and suddenly > he felt great and the digestive problems he's had for years vanished. My > mom still refused to drink it, but at least she's got to be gaining some > awareness. Dad wrapped up containers of rice milk at Christmas for his > father, to get him to try it too, and he's telling all his friends -- > and suddenly Dad's a little more open to hearing about the problems with > eating animal protein! And... my sister has stopped drinking milk too! > > With this new-found openness, I decided to push it a little. Dad has > always been sure he'll either die young or end up feeble and helpless in > a nursing home. I bought a copy of Healthy at 100 for him for Christmas > and kind of played dumb -- said I hadn't read it (true) but I'd seen a > couple of great reviews and I know he has fears about aging so thought > it might interest him. Didn't mention anything about the author being > veg. My mom told me last week that she read it and it was really > interesting, and now Dad is reading it too. So who knows. > > I had mentioned here a while back that I was planning to make a cookbook > to give to our families to try to demystify our diet a bit -- It went > over quite well, I ran out of copies immediately even though I thought > I'd end up with several gathering dust! I handed them out at Christmas. > Both my grandmothers asked me for copies, which really surprised me (the > one at least I think is just proud because I made it, and she wants to > show her friends, which is fine), and a good friend of my parents who > has diabetes asked for one too. My aunt keeps e-mailing me to say she's > tried another recipe and enjoyed it. My MIL was skeptical, she didn't > even pick it up for weeks -- she felt that I was trying to push her to > learn new things and it was far too complicated (which it isn't, she > only though that because she hadn't opened it). I put in lots of pics of > our kids looking cute for grandparent appeal. > > Anyway -- with all the negative experiences, I thought I'd add some > positive stuff. I've been veg for 16 years and this is the first time > we've really seen any openness or shifts in our family, so I'm excited. > Heather in Ontario > > > > For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at > http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to > http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to > provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a > qualified health professional. > > edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health > professional. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Thanks, Heather....it's heartwarming to hear that it can and does work out well in some families! Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 That's awesome about your dad liking the rice milk!! My husband Jeff is kind of starting to like that and soy milk. He used to buy some organic milk for himself and we'd give the kids rice/soy milk, but lately he's just been drinking the new stuff and I'm more than happy about it. I hope your parents keep on " coming around. " Heather Hossfeld <hlh4850 wrote: I just wanted to weigh in with a positive family story. My parents are staunch meat-eaters -- they have always accepted that we don't eat it, but had no interest in changing their own habits or hearing anything about our reasons. Our family went vegan about 6 months ago, and my parents knew better than to outright object (just comments like, " but they don't kill animals to get milk and eggs, so why on earth is it a problem? " and " but what will you eat? " ). One day a few months back they were visiting for lunch. I set out our rice milk. My mom grimaced and asked for a glass of water, but my father said he'd try a glass. He didn't say anything to me, but the next day my mom phoned to ask where we buy " that stuff " because Dad liked it so much he asked her to buy some for their house. We bought a case of rice milk and gave it to them. Fast forward a few weeks -- my sister phones me and says " Did you know Dad gave up milk? He just phoned me and told me he thinks I should stop drinking it too! " . I e-mailed Dad to inquire -- he said they'd run out of cow's milk so for a week he'd only drank the rice milk, and suddenly he felt great and the digestive problems he's had for years vanished. My mom still refused to drink it, but at least she's got to be gaining some awareness. Dad wrapped up containers of rice milk at Christmas for his father, to get him to try it too, and he's telling all his friends -- and suddenly Dad's a little more open to hearing about the problems with eating animal protein! And... my sister has stopped drinking milk too! With this new-found openness, I decided to push it a little. Dad has always been sure he'll either die young or end up feeble and helpless in a nursing home. I bought a copy of Healthy at 100 for him for Christmas and kind of played dumb -- said I hadn't read it (true) but I'd seen a couple of great reviews and I know he has fears about aging so thought it might interest him. Didn't mention anything about the author being veg. My mom told me last week that she read it and it was really interesting, and now Dad is reading it too. So who knows. I had mentioned here a while back that I was planning to make a cookbook to give to our families to try to demystify our diet a bit -- It went over quite well, I ran out of copies immediately even though I thought I'd end up with several gathering dust! I handed them out at Christmas. Both my grandmothers asked me for copies, which really surprised me (the one at least I think is just proud because I made it, and she wants to show her friends, which is fine), and a good friend of my parents who has diabetes asked for one too. My aunt keeps e-mailing me to say she's tried another recipe and enjoyed it. My MIL was skeptical, she didn't even pick it up for weeks -- she felt that I was trying to push her to learn new things and it was far too complicated (which it isn't, she only though that because she hadn't opened it). I put in lots of pics of our kids looking cute for grandparent appeal. Anyway -- with all the negative experiences, I thought I'd add some positive stuff. I've been veg for 16 years and this is the first time we've really seen any openness or shifts in our family, so I'm excited. Heather in Ontario Kadee Sedtal Build a man a fire and he'll stay warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he'll stay warm the rest of his life. " THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!!! " -Captain Picard, Next Generation, " Chain of Command part 2 " Check out my new , Classical 2 at http://launch.classical2/ We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): TV's Guilty Pleasures list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 > As for chicken nuggets from Wendy's, the first time someone who knows our diet tried feeding that to my children would be the last time. I think you might find that you have better luck with a daycare or babysitter. > Jill ------ One of our customers from work fed Wendy's chicken nuggets to her sister's 2-year old. The kid choked and died right there at her dinner table. Meat is dangerous. ~DJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Well, I wouldn't neccessarily say that meat alone is dangerous for choking. Kids can easily choke on grapes, nuts, peanutbutter, veggie dogs, even spaghetti. Many things are a potential choking hazard for a 1 or 2 year old. , " doovinator " <doovinator wrote: > > > As for chicken nuggets from Wendy's, the first time someone > who knows > our diet tried feeding that to my children would be the last time. I > think you might find that you have better luck with a daycare or > babysitter. > > Jill > ------ > One of our customers from work fed Wendy's chicken nuggets to > her sister's 2-year old. The kid choked and died right there at her > dinner table. Meat is dangerous. > ~DJ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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