Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 I sent this yesterday but it doesn't appear to have gone through for some reason, so my apologies if this comes through twice... I just got another response to that e-mail I sent out about the environmental impact of meat, this time from a woman who goes to my church. She thanked me and said it made them think about their diet -- and then she asked if I know what kind of environmental impact fish and chicken have. When I did a Google search I got thousands of hits. Can anyone recommend a source for clear, balanced information that will sound reasonable to an omnivore, i.e. not something that it pushing a vegan diet and says everyone who consumes animals is evil. I don't want to make her wish she hadn't asked! On a similar note -- some of the people who responded asked for recipes. I had made a little cookbook for my family a few months ago, but the file is in Quark. I do not have Quark, it was done on my sister's computer, and she can't figure out how to turn it into a PDF. Is there anyone out there who I can send my Quark file to who could save it as a PDF for me? Then I'd happily send the PDF to whoever wants it (it's all vegan with many gluten-free options, fairly simple recipes with a focus on " normal " , widely available ingredients -- sources cited, I did not invent these recipes). Heather > ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 I might be able to do something for you as far as your cookbook. I'll also look up some info about fish and chicken. Jessica, Robert, and Baby Jesse Life is an adventure in forgiveness. Norman Cousins (1915 - 1990) Heather Hossfeld <hlh4850 Sunday, March 4, 2007 3:21:06 PM Fish, Chicken and Quark I sent this yesterday but it doesn't appear to have gone through for some reason, so my apologies if this comes through twice... I just got another response to that e-mail I sent out about the environmental impact of meat, this time from a woman who goes to my church. She thanked me and said it made them think about their diet -- and then she asked if I know what kind of environmental impact fish and chicken have. When I did a Google search I got thousands of hits. Can anyone recommend a source for clear, balanced information that will sound reasonable to an omnivore, i.e. not something that it pushing a vegan diet and says everyone who consumes animals is evil. I don't want to make her wish she hadn't asked! On a similar note -- some of the people who responded asked for recipes. I had made a little cookbook for my family a few months ago, but the file is in Quark. I do not have Quark, it was done on my sister's computer, and she can't figure out how to turn it into a PDF. Is there anyone out there who I can send my Quark file to who could save it as a PDF for me? Then I'd happily send the PDF to whoever wants it (it's all vegan with many gluten-free options, fairly simple recipes with a focus on " normal " , widely available ingredients -- sources cited, I did not invent these recipes). Heather > ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 www.grist.org is a great source for environmental information. I do know that chicken has a much smaller impact on the environment than beef. The last time a cow was found to have mad cow (last summer, in Alabama, I think), the number of FDA meat inspectors was cut. The symptoms of mad cow in humans are virtually the same as alzheimers, which leads me to think that many people diagnosed with alzheimers and other forms of dementia may actually have the disease caused by mad cow. Cows are made to eat grass, not the corn fed to commercially raised cows. The corn caused massive infections that must be treated with constant doses of antibiotics. The cows are also supplemented with protein made from dead cows - this is how they get mad cow (human cannibals get a similar disease). Heather Hossfeld <hlh4850 wrote: I sent this yesterday but it doesn't appear to have gone through for some reason, so my apologies if this comes through twice... I just got another response to that e-mail I sent out about the environmental impact of meat, this time from a woman who goes to my church. She thanked me and said it made them think about their diet -- and then she asked if I know what kind of environmental impact fish and chicken have. When I did a Google search I got thousands of hits. Can anyone recommend a source for clear, balanced information that will sound reasonable to an omnivore, i.e. not something that it pushing a vegan diet and says everyone who consumes animals is evil. I don't want to make her wish she hadn't asked! On a similar note -- some of the people who responded asked for recipes. I had made a little cookbook for my family a few months ago, but the file is in Quark. I do not have Quark, it was done on my sister's computer, and she can't figure out how to turn it into a PDF. Is there anyone out there who I can send my Quark file to who could save it as a PDF for me? Then I'd happily send the PDF to whoever wants it (it's all vegan with many gluten-free options, fairly simple recipes with a focus on " normal " , widely available ingredients -- sources cited, I did not invent these recipes). Heather > ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Here's a link to some information about how fishing hurts the environment. http://www.fishinghurts.com/environmentalConcerns.asp I didn't find anything specific about environment and chickens on Peta.. but this link is generally about meat and the environment http://www.goveg.com/environment.asp Jessica, Robert, and Baby Jesse Life is an adventure in forgiveness. Norman Cousins (1915 - 1990) Heather Hossfeld <hlh4850 Sunday, March 4, 2007 3:21:06 PM Fish, Chicken and Quark I sent this yesterday but it doesn't appear to have gone through for some reason, so my apologies if this comes through twice... I just got another response to that e-mail I sent out about the environmental impact of meat, this time from a woman who goes to my church. She thanked me and said it made them think about their diet -- and then she asked if I know what kind of environmental impact fish and chicken have. When I did a Google search I got thousands of hits. Can anyone recommend a source for clear, balanced information that will sound reasonable to an omnivore, i.e. not something that it pushing a vegan diet and says everyone who consumes animals is evil. I don't want to make her wish she hadn't asked! On a similar note -- some of the people who responded asked for recipes. I had made a little cookbook for my family a few months ago, but the file is in Quark. I do not have Quark, it was done on my sister's computer, and she can't figure out how to turn it into a PDF. Is there anyone out there who I can send my Quark file to who could save it as a PDF for me? Then I'd happily send the PDF to whoever wants it (it's all vegan with many gluten-free options, fairly simple recipes with a focus on " normal " , widely available ingredients -- sources cited, I did not invent these recipes). Heather > ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Thanks Jess! DarrAngeD has already e-mailed me off-list to say she has Quark and can help -- I will let you know if we need further help. Heather Jess wrote: > > I might be able to do something for you as far as your cookbook. I'll > also look up some info about fish and chicken. > > Jessica, Robert, and Baby Jesse > > Life is an adventure in forgiveness. > Norman Cousins (1915 - 1990) > > > Heather Hossfeld <hlh4850 <hlh4850%40gmail.com>> > <%40> > Sunday, March 4, 2007 3:21:06 PM > Fish, Chicken and Quark > > I sent this yesterday but it doesn't appear to have gone through for > some reason, so my apologies if this comes through twice... > > I just got another response to that e-mail I sent out about the > environmental impact of meat, this time from a woman who goes to my > church. She thanked me and said it made them think about their diet -- > and then she asked if I know what kind of environmental impact fish and > chicken have. > > When I did a Google search I got thousands of hits. Can anyone recommend > a source for clear, balanced information that will sound reasonable to > an omnivore, i.e. not something that it pushing a vegan diet and says > everyone who consumes animals is evil. I don't want to make her wish she > hadn't asked! > > On a similar note -- some of the people who responded asked for recipes. > I had made a little cookbook for my family a few months ago, but the > file is in Quark. I do not have Quark, it was done on my sister's > computer, and she can't figure out how to turn it into a PDF. Is there > anyone out there who I can send my Quark file to who could save it as a > PDF for me? Then I'd happily send the PDF to whoever wants it (it's all > vegan with many gluten-free options, fairly simple recipes with a focus > on " normal " , widely available ingredients -- sources cited, I did not > invent these recipes). > Heather > > > ___ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 hmmm- if they're willing to see a book, I usually suggest " diet for a new america " by John Robbins- He's tender, gentle, realistic , and doesn't tend to scare people as much as other writers! - Heather Hossfeld<hlh4850 < > Sunday, March 04, 2007 4:21 PM Fish, Chicken and Quark I sent this yesterday but it doesn't appear to have gone through for some reason, so my apologies if this comes through twice... I just got another response to that e-mail I sent out about the environmental impact of meat, this time from a woman who goes to my church. She thanked me and said it made them think about their diet -- and then she asked if I know what kind of environmental impact fish and chicken have. When I did a Google search I got thousands of hits. Can anyone recommend a source for clear, balanced information that will sound reasonable to an omnivore, i.e. not something that it pushing a vegan diet and says everyone who consumes animals is evil. I don't want to make her wish she hadn't asked! On a similar note -- some of the people who responded asked for recipes. I had made a little cookbook for my family a few months ago, but the file is in Quark. I do not have Quark, it was done on my sister's computer, and she can't figure out how to turn it into a PDF. Is there anyone out there who I can send my Quark file to who could save it as a PDF for me? Then I'd happily send the PDF to whoever wants it (it's all vegan with many gluten-free options, fairly simple recipes with a focus on " normal " , widely available ingredients -- sources cited, I did not invent these recipes). Heather > ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 Heather, Run, do not walk, to your library or bookstore tomorrow and pick up a book called End of the Line by Charles Clover. It is an excellent, thoroughly researched, and extremely thought- provoking book about the environmental impact humans have had (and are continuing to have) on the oceans through fishing. It just came out this past November so it is up-to-date. The reason why I think that this book would have such an impact on your friends is because it is written by an omnivore, not a vegan or vegetarian. So I think that other omnivores will not feel threatened by it. It is really an eye opener for people!!! Can't recommend it enough!!! Karen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 Another excellent source of information on the environmental impact of food choices is at the Center for Science in the Public Interest website, www.cspinet.org <http://www.cspinet.org/> . Once there click on the Eating Green link, there is lots of data, a book they have published and I think a quiz you can take. CSPI is a non-profit society and has a lot of credibility. The author of the book is still an omnivore, but eats a lot less now. The impact of beef farming is far higher than that of any other animal but none are environmentally friendly. Christine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 Neat link!! I got a 41 on the quiz, which they say is good. 60 or higher is excellent though... they're obviously very pro-vegan and vegetarian, which is great. Lots of information. I will keep this link handy. Christine <macpoulin wrote: Another excellent source of information on the environmental impact of food choices is at the Center for Science in the Public Interest website, www.cspinet.org <http://www.cspinet.org/> . Once there click on the Eating Green link, there is lots of data, a book they have published and I think a quiz you can take. CSPI is a non-profit society and has a lot of credibility. The author of the book is still an omnivore, but eats a lot less now. The impact of beef farming is far higher than that of any other animal but none are environmentally friendly. Christine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 Thank you! I to their newsletter and they did a story about green diets a few months ago, so I went to their newsletter site but they haven't posted the article. It didn't occur to me to go to the site for the CSPI itself. That's neat, I like how they have the trivia game and calculators to get people thinking about their personal environmental impact. Heather Christine wrote: > > Another excellent source of information on the environmental impact of > food > choices is at the Center for Science in the Public Interest website, > www.cspinet.org <http://www.cspinet.org/ <http://www.cspinet.org/>> . > > Once there click on the Eating Green link, there is lots of data, a book > they have published and I think a quiz you can take. CSPI is a non-profit > society and has a lot of credibility. The author of the book is still an > omnivore, but eats a lot less now. The impact of beef farming is far > higher > than that of any other animal but none are environmentally friendly. > > Christine > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 nice quiz! i got 155! On 3/5/07, Heather Hossfeld <hlh4850 wrote: > > Thank you! I to their newsletter and they did a story about > green diets a few months ago, so I went to their newsletter site but > they haven't posted the article. It didn't occur to me to go to the site > for the CSPI itself. That's neat, I like how they have the trivia game > and calculators to get people thinking about their personal > environmental impact. > Heather > > Christine wrote: > > > > Another excellent source of information on the environmental impact of > > food > > choices is at the Center for Science in the Public Interest website, > > www.cspinet.org <http://www.cspinet.org/ <http://www.cspinet.org/>> . > > > > Once there click on the Eating Green link, there is lots of data, a book > > they have published and I think a quiz you can take. CSPI is a > non-profit > > society and has a lot of credibility. The author of the book is still an > > omnivore, but eats a lot less now. The impact of beef farming is far > > higher > > than that of any other animal but none are environmentally friendly. > > > > Christine > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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