Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 there was a debate on my FU board today about veganism in pregnancy, with the majority coming out on the side of it not being very healthy and more or less impossible to get all the protein they need. this is what i posted, after making it clear that i'm a student of both midwifery and nutrition: some women who are vegans can indeed have a hard time getting enough protein, and all other nutrients, and really pregnant or not that is common. i meet few vegans who have an ideal intake, because they don't work at it or they are not sufficiently informed. but if you are well-informed and willing to put the work in, it can be very positive. my first pregnancy, i was an omnivore for the majority of it. i gained 13 pounds after losing 10 and had a very difficult time gaining weight; for much of my pregnancy my baby was SGA, until i went on a fast-food binge the last month, at which point i gained 13 pounds and my son took it all. i had a 60-hour labor that ended in transport, gave birth to a 8 lb. 3 oz. baby boy, without drugs but it was still horrible, and i had tons of problems PP. the pregnancy that ended 12 weeks ago was very different. i was a vastly healthier person, but, i would not say it was easier...in fact in many ways it was harder because i was diagnosed with fibromyalgia after my son's birth and i had to deal with an incredible amount of pain with no available relief for my entire pregnancy, to the point of not being able to get out bed some days; the nausea was more intense and lasted longer; i was exhausted beyond belief despite having incredible amounts of energy after going vegan; it just sucked! i gained 25 pounds in this pregnancy and gained weight very easily, despite the nausea, without resorting to horrid foods. despite being able to eat almost nothing, i still had adequate nutrition because i tried very hard to make sure that was i DID eat was nutrient-packed. i gave birth at home to an 8-lb. baby girl after 9 hours of labor and my recovery was practically instantaneous. now, i am not saying that the difference in those births was entirely the result of my good diet, but i know that some of it indeed was. IME the most important thing is a carefully planned-out diet, whether that's vegan or organic or whole-foods or omni or WAP or whatever. but after reviewing so many studies (especially as regards pregnancy, being a student midwife) i really think that - much like doctors who instill fear and self-doubt about episiotomies, drugs, IVs, monitors, etc. - a lot of midwives do their clients a disservice by instilling fear in them that a vegan diet would be insufficient for their needs or too difficult to attempt. i didn't find it to be either, and neither did my midwife, who has also successfully assisted a vegan woman through a pregnancy with twins - on over 200 grams of protein a day. anne frye [a midwife who has written the only homebirth-midwifery textbook] says herself, the best thing is to work with a woman within the confines of a diet that she is used to and finds acceptable. that's certainly what i plan to do with my own clients, and i would not work with anyone who operated otherwise. it's really important that midwives educate themselves extensively about nutrients in pregnancy and inform themselves about ALL specific diets so that she can provide advice to her clients about where she can get her nutrients without going out of the bounds of her tastes, preferences, cultural/religious beliefs, history, and lifestyle. chandelle' -- " The true aim of education is to awaken real powers of perception and judgement in relation to life and living. For only such an awakening can lead to true freedom. " -Rudolf Steiner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 I read the book " Your Vegetarian Pregnancy " by Dr. Holly Roberts during my pregnancy. I was completely vegetarian, and had to cut back on my calcium intake because of gall stones. I gained 35 lbs and my son was 6lbs 3 oz (born a few weeks early). My stepsister who is not vegetarian gained 40 lbs during her pregnancy (we were pregnant at the same time, just two weeks apart!) and her daughter weighed 2 oz less than my son... she was full-term. As long as you follow a healthy diet it doesn't matter if you are veg or not. Although in my opinion, I couldn't imagine feeding my developing baby all the junk that goes into some of the products people eat. Jessica, Robert, and Baby Jesse Life is an adventure in forgiveness. Norman Cousins (1915 - 1990) chandelle' <earthmother213 Sunday, March 4, 2007 6:43:35 PM vegan pregnancy there was a debate on my FU board today about veganism in pregnancy, with the majority coming out on the side of it not being very healthy and more or less impossible to get all the protein they need. this is what i posted, after making it clear that i'm a student of both midwifery and nutrition: some women who are vegans can indeed have a hard time getting enough protein, and all other nutrients, and really pregnant or not that is common. i meet few vegans who have an ideal intake, because they don't work at it or they are not sufficiently informed. but if you are well-informed and willing to put the work in, it can be very positive. my first pregnancy, i was an omnivore for the majority of it. i gained 13 pounds after losing 10 and had a very difficult time gaining weight; for much of my pregnancy my baby was SGA, until i went on a fast-food binge the last month, at which point i gained 13 pounds and my son took it all. i had a 60-hour labor that ended in transport, gave birth to a 8 lb. 3 oz. baby boy, without drugs but it was still horrible, and i had tons of problems PP. the pregnancy that ended 12 weeks ago was very different. i was a vastly healthier person, but, i would not say it was easier...in fact in many ways it was harder because i was diagnosed with fibromyalgia after my son's birth and i had to deal with an incredible amount of pain with no available relief for my entire pregnancy, to the point of not being able to get out bed some days; the nausea was more intense and lasted longer; i was exhausted beyond belief despite having incredible amounts of energy after going vegan; it just sucked! i gained 25 pounds in this pregnancy and gained weight very easily, despite the nausea, without resorting to horrid foods. despite being able to eat almost nothing, i still had adequate nutrition because i tried very hard to make sure that was i DID eat was nutrient-packed. i gave birth at home to an 8-lb. baby girl after 9 hours of labor and my recovery was practically instantaneous. now, i am not saying that the difference in those births was entirely the result of my good diet, but i know that some of it indeed was. IME the most important thing is a carefully planned-out diet, whether that's vegan or organic or whole-foods or omni or WAP or whatever. but after reviewing so many studies (especially as regards pregnancy, being a student midwife) i really think that - much like doctors who instill fear and self-doubt about episiotomies, drugs, IVs, monitors, etc. - a lot of midwives do their clients a disservice by instilling fear in them that a vegan diet would be insufficient for their needs or too difficult to attempt. i didn't find it to be either, and neither did my midwife, who has also successfully assisted a vegan woman through a pregnancy with twins - on over 200 grams of protein a day. anne frye [a midwife who has written the only homebirth-midwifery textbook] says herself, the best thing is to work with a woman within the confines of a diet that she is used to and finds acceptable. that's certainly what i plan to do with my own clients, and i would not work with anyone who operated otherwise. it's really important that midwives educate themselves extensively about nutrients in pregnancy and inform themselves about ALL specific diets so that she can provide advice to her clients about where she can get her nutrients without going out of the bounds of her tastes, preferences, cultural/religious beliefs, history, and lifestyle. chandelle' -- " The true aim of education is to awaken real powers of perception and judgement in relation to life and living. For only such an awakening can lead to true freedom. " -Rudolf Steiner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 I'm on my third vegan pregnancy and I don't pay any more attention to my diet than I do when I'm not pregnant. I don't count protein, but we already eat beans every day and a very healthy diet with a lot of variety (we eat flax/walnuts/hemp daily and I take a B12 supplement although we eat nutritional yeast quite often). With my first child I gained 20lbs and with my second I gained 50lbs (I started 20lbs lighter with my second so it makes sense I gained more). I had natural wonderful births with both (the second unassisted at home). They were 1/2 lb different in weight and 1 1/2 inches different in length (my second child being bigger). I went vegan several years before getting pregnant and was vegetarian for 15 years before my first child. I also read " Your Vegetarian Pregnancy " during my second pregnancy. I think every birth is different and see people who eat terrible still have healthy babies and people who eat a ton of protein (veg or not) have tough births. I'm not saying diet doesn't matter, but there are a lot of factors at play and I think people have quite a lot of things to worry about during pregnancy. Vegan pregnancies are obviously not any worse than non-vegan pregnancies based on the vegan people I know who've given birth. Listening to my body has always made me feel the best pregnant or not. Linda --- Jess <veg4animals2006 wrote: > I read the book " Your Vegetarian Pregnancy " by Dr. > Holly Roberts during my pregnancy. I was completely > vegetarian, and had to cut back on my calcium intake > because of gall stones. I gained 35 lbs and my son > was 6lbs 3 oz (born a few weeks early). My > stepsister who is not vegetarian gained 40 lbs > during her pregnancy (we were pregnant at the same > time, just two weeks apart!) and her daughter > weighed 2 oz less than my son... she was full-term. > As long as you follow a healthy diet it doesn't > matter if you are veg or not. Although in my > opinion, I couldn't imagine feeding my developing > baby all the junk that goes into some of the > products people eat. > > > > > Jessica, Robert, and Baby Jesse > > Life is an adventure in forgiveness. > Norman Cousins (1915 - 1990) > > > > > > chandelle' <earthmother213 > > Sunday, March 4, 2007 6:43:35 PM > vegan pregnancy > > there was a debate on my FU board today about > veganism in pregnancy, with > the majority coming out on the side of it not being > very healthy and more or > less impossible to get all the protein they need. > this is what i posted, > after making it clear that i'm a student of both > midwifery and nutrition: > > some women who are vegans can indeed have a hard > time getting enough > protein, and all other nutrients, and really > pregnant or not that is > common. i meet few vegans who have an ideal intake, > because they don't work > at it or they are not sufficiently informed. but if > you are well-informed > and willing to put the work in, it can be very > positive. > > my first pregnancy, i was an omnivore for the > majority of it. i gained 13 > pounds after losing 10 and had a very difficult time > gaining weight; for > much of my pregnancy my baby was SGA, until i went > on a fast-food binge the > last month, at which point i gained 13 pounds and my > son took it all. i had > a 60-hour labor that ended in transport, gave birth > to a 8 lb. 3 oz. baby > boy, without drugs but it was still horrible, and i > had tons of problems > PP. > > the pregnancy that ended 12 weeks ago was very > different. i was a vastly > healthier person, but, i would not say it was > easier...in fact in many ways > it was harder because i was diagnosed with > fibromyalgia after my son's birth > and i had to deal with an incredible amount of pain > with no available relief > for my entire pregnancy, to the point of not being > able to get out bed some > days; the nausea was more intense and lasted longer; > i was exhausted beyond > belief despite having incredible amounts of energy > after going vegan; it > just sucked! i gained 25 pounds in this pregnancy > and gained weight very > easily, despite the nausea, without resorting to > horrid foods. despite > being able to eat almost nothing, i still had > adequate nutrition because i > tried very hard to make sure that was i DID eat was > nutrient-packed. i gave > birth at home to an 8-lb. baby girl after 9 hours of > labor and my recovery > was practically instantaneous. > > now, i am not saying that the difference in those > births was entirely the > result of my good diet, but i know that some of it > indeed was. > > IME the most important thing is a carefully > planned-out diet, whether that's > vegan or organic or whole-foods or omni or WAP or > whatever. but after > reviewing so many studies (especially as regards > pregnancy, being a student > midwife) i really think that - much like doctors who > instill fear and > self-doubt about episiotomies, drugs, IVs, monitors, > etc. - a lot of > midwives do their clients a disservice by instilling > fear in them that a > vegan diet would be insufficient for their needs or > too difficult to > attempt. i didn't find it to be either, and neither > did my midwife, who has > also successfully assisted a vegan woman through a > pregnancy with twins - on > over 200 grams of protein a day. anne frye [a > midwife who has written the > only homebirth-midwifery textbook] says herself, the > best thing is to work > with a woman within the confines of a diet that she > is used to and finds > acceptable. that's certainly what i plan to do with > my own clients, and i > would not work with anyone who operated otherwise. > it's really important > that midwives educate themselves extensively about > nutrients in pregnancy > and inform themselves about ALL specific diets so > that she can provide > advice to her clients about where she can get her > nutrients without going > out of the bounds of her tastes, preferences, > cultural/religious beliefs, > history, and lifestyle. > > chandelle' > > -- > " The true aim of education is to awaken real powers > of perception and > judgement in relation to life and living. For only > such an awakening can > lead to true freedom. " > -Rudolf Steiner > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Get your own web address. > Have a HUGE year through Small Business. > http://smallbusiness./domains/?p=BESTDEAL > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Linda http://triballife.net/ A Marketplace for a Better World ______________________________\ ____ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search./shortcuts/#loc_weather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 I got pregnant while I was in college. I had two friends who also got pregnant around the same time. They were a little bit ahead of me. They were both the same build as me, smallish, not quite athletic but in good shape. I was a vegetarian, they were not. The first had such a horrible labor she had to have a c-section. The other was on bed rest for the last month or two, went into labor early, and ended up with a c-section also. I was terrified! But I was in labor only 6 hours, had only a local anesthetic, no epidural, and did just fine. Same thing with the second pregnancy. Both of them were a couple of weeks early, but Leah was 6 lbs. 9 oz. and Jeffery was 6 lbs. 11 oz. Both of them were perfectly healthy. The second time I didn't even have ANY anesthetic at all. I think a lot of it had to do with my good diet. Maybe not all... but at least some. Jess <veg4animals2006 wrote: I read the book " Your Vegetarian Pregnancy " by Dr. Holly Roberts during my pregnancy. I was completely vegetarian, and had to cut back on my calcium intake because of gall stones. I gained 35 lbs and my son was 6lbs 3 oz (born a few weeks early). My stepsister who is not vegetarian gained 40 lbs during her pregnancy (we were pregnant at the same time, just two weeks apart!) and her daughter weighed 2 oz less than my son... she was full-term. As long as you follow a healthy diet it doesn't matter if you are veg or not. Although in my opinion, I couldn't imagine feeding my developing baby all the junk that goes into some of the products people eat. Jessica, Robert, and Baby Jesse Life is an adventure in forgiveness. Norman Cousins (1915 - 1990) chandelle' <earthmother213 Sunday, March 4, 2007 6:43:35 PM vegan pregnancy there was a debate on my FU board today about veganism in pregnancy, with the majority coming out on the side of it not being very healthy and more or less impossible to get all the protein they need. this is what i posted, after making it clear that i'm a student of both midwifery and nutrition: some women who are vegans can indeed have a hard time getting enough protein, and all other nutrients, and really pregnant or not that is common. i meet few vegans who have an ideal intake, because they don't work at it or they are not sufficiently informed. but if you are well-informed and willing to put the work in, it can be very positive. my first pregnancy, i was an omnivore for the majority of it. i gained 13 pounds after losing 10 and had a very difficult time gaining weight; for much of my pregnancy my baby was SGA, until i went on a fast-food binge the last month, at which point i gained 13 pounds and my son took it all. i had a 60-hour labor that ended in transport, gave birth to a 8 lb. 3 oz. baby boy, without drugs but it was still horrible, and i had tons of problems PP. the pregnancy that ended 12 weeks ago was very different. i was a vastly healthier person, but, i would not say it was easier...in fact in many ways it was harder because i was diagnosed with fibromyalgia after my son's birth and i had to deal with an incredible amount of pain with no available relief for my entire pregnancy, to the point of not being able to get out bed some days; the nausea was more intense and lasted longer; i was exhausted beyond belief despite having incredible amounts of energy after going vegan; it just sucked! i gained 25 pounds in this pregnancy and gained weight very easily, despite the nausea, without resorting to horrid foods. despite being able to eat almost nothing, i still had adequate nutrition because i tried very hard to make sure that was i DID eat was nutrient-packed. i gave birth at home to an 8-lb. baby girl after 9 hours of labor and my recovery was practically instantaneous. now, i am not saying that the difference in those births was entirely the result of my good diet, but i know that some of it indeed was. IME the most important thing is a carefully planned-out diet, whether that's vegan or organic or whole-foods or omni or WAP or whatever. but after reviewing so many studies (especially as regards pregnancy, being a student midwife) i really think that - much like doctors who instill fear and self-doubt about episiotomies, drugs, IVs, monitors, etc. - a lot of midwives do their clients a disservice by instilling fear in them that a vegan diet would be insufficient for their needs or too difficult to attempt. i didn't find it to be either, and neither did my midwife, who has also successfully assisted a vegan woman through a pregnancy with twins - on over 200 grams of protein a day. anne frye [a midwife who has written the only homebirth-midwifery textbook] says herself, the best thing is to work with a woman within the confines of a diet that she is used to and finds acceptable. that's certainly what i plan to do with my own clients, and i would not work with anyone who operated otherwise. it's really important that midwives educate themselves extensively about nutrients in pregnancy and inform themselves about ALL specific diets so that she can provide advice to her clients about where she can get her nutrients without going out of the bounds of her tastes, preferences, cultural/religious beliefs, history, and lifestyle. chandelle' -- " The true aim of education is to awaken real powers of perception and judgement in relation to life and living. For only such an awakening can lead to true freedom. " -Rudolf Steiner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 bravo! well said. karen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 hooray for UC! On 3/4/07, Linda Evans <veganlinda wrote: > > I'm on my third vegan pregnancy and I don't pay any > more attention to my diet than I do when I'm not > pregnant. I don't count protein, but we already eat > beans every day and a very healthy diet with a lot of > variety (we eat flax/walnuts/hemp daily and I take a > B12 supplement although we eat nutritional yeast quite > often). With my first child I gained 20lbs and with > my second I gained 50lbs (I started 20lbs lighter with > my second so it makes sense I gained more). I had > natural wonderful births with both (the second > unassisted at home). They were 1/2 lb different in > weight and 1 1/2 inches different in length (my second > child being bigger). I went vegan several years > before getting pregnant and was vegetarian for 15 > years before my first child. I also read " Your > Vegetarian Pregnancy " during my second pregnancy. > > I think every birth is different and see people who > eat terrible still have healthy babies and people who > eat a ton of protein (veg or not) have tough births. > I'm not saying diet doesn't matter, but there are a > lot of factors at play and I think people have quite a > lot of things to worry about during pregnancy. Vegan > pregnancies are obviously not any worse than non-vegan > pregnancies based on the vegan people I know who've > given birth. > > Listening to my body has always made me feel the best > pregnant or not. > > Linda > --- Jess <veg4animals2006 wrote: > > > I read the book " Your Vegetarian Pregnancy " by Dr. > > Holly Roberts during my pregnancy. I was completely > > vegetarian, and had to cut back on my calcium intake > > because of gall stones. I gained 35 lbs and my son > > was 6lbs 3 oz (born a few weeks early). My > > stepsister who is not vegetarian gained 40 lbs > > during her pregnancy (we were pregnant at the same > > time, just two weeks apart!) and her daughter > > weighed 2 oz less than my son... she was full-term. > > As long as you follow a healthy diet it doesn't > > matter if you are veg or not. Although in my > > opinion, I couldn't imagine feeding my developing > > baby all the junk that goes into some of the > > products people eat. > > > > > > > > > > Jessica, Robert, and Baby Jesse > > > > Life is an adventure in forgiveness. > > Norman Cousins (1915 - 1990) > > > > > > > > > > > > chandelle' <earthmother213 > > > > Sunday, March 4, 2007 6:43:35 PM > > vegan pregnancy > > > > there was a debate on my FU board today about > > veganism in pregnancy, with > > the majority coming out on the side of it not being > > very healthy and more or > > less impossible to get all the protein they need. > > this is what i posted, > > after making it clear that i'm a student of both > > midwifery and nutrition: > > > > some women who are vegans can indeed have a hard > > time getting enough > > protein, and all other nutrients, and really > > pregnant or not that is > > common. i meet few vegans who have an ideal intake, > > because they don't work > > at it or they are not sufficiently informed. but if > > you are well-informed > > and willing to put the work in, it can be very > > positive. > > > > my first pregnancy, i was an omnivore for the > > majority of it. i gained 13 > > pounds after losing 10 and had a very difficult time > > gaining weight; for > > much of my pregnancy my baby was SGA, until i went > > on a fast-food binge the > > last month, at which point i gained 13 pounds and my > > son took it all. i had > > a 60-hour labor that ended in transport, gave birth > > to a 8 lb. 3 oz. baby > > boy, without drugs but it was still horrible, and i > > had tons of problems > > PP. > > > > the pregnancy that ended 12 weeks ago was very > > different. i was a vastly > > healthier person, but, i would not say it was > > easier...in fact in many ways > > it was harder because i was diagnosed with > > fibromyalgia after my son's birth > > and i had to deal with an incredible amount of pain > > with no available relief > > for my entire pregnancy, to the point of not being > > able to get out bed some > > days; the nausea was more intense and lasted longer; > > i was exhausted beyond > > belief despite having incredible amounts of energy > > after going vegan; it > > just sucked! i gained 25 pounds in this pregnancy > > and gained weight very > > easily, despite the nausea, without resorting to > > horrid foods. despite > > being able to eat almost nothing, i still had > > adequate nutrition because i > > tried very hard to make sure that was i DID eat was > > nutrient-packed. i gave > > birth at home to an 8-lb. baby girl after 9 hours of > > labor and my recovery > > was practically instantaneous. > > > > now, i am not saying that the difference in those > > births was entirely the > > result of my good diet, but i know that some of it > > indeed was. > > > > IME the most important thing is a carefully > > planned-out diet, whether that's > > vegan or organic or whole-foods or omni or WAP or > > whatever. but after > > reviewing so many studies (especially as regards > > pregnancy, being a student > > midwife) i really think that - much like doctors who > > instill fear and > > self-doubt about episiotomies, drugs, IVs, monitors, > > etc. - a lot of > > midwives do their clients a disservice by instilling > > fear in them that a > > vegan diet would be insufficient for their needs or > > too difficult to > > attempt. i didn't find it to be either, and neither > > did my midwife, who has > > also successfully assisted a vegan woman through a > > pregnancy with twins - on > > over 200 grams of protein a day. anne frye [a > > midwife who has written the > > only homebirth-midwifery textbook] says herself, the > > best thing is to work > > with a woman within the confines of a diet that she > > is used to and finds > > acceptable. that's certainly what i plan to do with > > my own clients, and i > > would not work with anyone who operated otherwise. > > it's really important > > that midwives educate themselves extensively about > > nutrients in pregnancy > > and inform themselves about ALL specific diets so > > that she can provide > > advice to her clients about where she can get her > > nutrients without going > > out of the bounds of her tastes, preferences, > > cultural/religious beliefs, > > history, and lifestyle. > > > > chandelle' > > > > -- > > " The true aim of education is to awaken real powers > > of perception and > > judgement in relation to life and living. For only > > such an awakening can > > lead to true freedom. " > > -Rudolf Steiner > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > Get your own web address. > > Have a HUGE year through Small Business. > > http://smallbusiness./domains/?p=BESTDEAL > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > Linda > http://triballife.net/ A Marketplace for a Better World > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast > with the Search weather shortcut. > http://tools.search./shortcuts/#loc_weather > > > > For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at > http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to > http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to > provide personal medical advice. 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Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 Chandelle, If I may, I would like to offer a little constructive comment on a very well written post. IMO, the first paragraph reinforces the negativity people hear about vegan diets. That is, because they have their mind made up and may not completely read your post and see the part where you mention other diets. And, if they do read it, they already have their mindset reinforced by you in the beginning. I have found this to be true regarding vegansim as well as other issues. In my client communication courses, we were taught to state the important things first and then handle the other because people will only listen to the first thing you say - we have very short attention spans. I just wouldn't say that " I meet very few vegans who have an ideal intake, because.. " This, I have found, is even more likely to occur in an omnivore than in a vegan. I would say something like " While many people feel vegans don't have an ideal intake, they are just as likey to follow nutritional guidlelines for optimum health as anyone else. In our society it is difficult for most people to eat right using processed and fast foods, so putting forth an effort is required regardless of the diet you follow. " Something like that. Just a gut reaction I had based on my experience in educating others. Please feel free to disregard. Carrol , chandelle' <earthmother213 wrote: >> > some women who are vegans can indeed have a hard time getting enough > protein, and all other nutrients, and really pregnant or not that is > common. i meet few vegans who have an ideal intake, because they don't work > at it or they are not sufficiently informed. but if you are well- informed > and willing to put the work in, it can be very positive.... > IME the most important thing is a carefully planned-out diet, whether that's > vegan or organic or whole-foods or omni or WAP or whatever. but after > reviewing so many studies (especially as regards pregnancy, being a student > midwife) i really think that - much like doctors who instill fear and > self-doubt about episiotomies, drugs, IVs, monitors, etc. - a lot of > midwives do their clients a disservice by instilling fear in them that a > vegan diet would be insufficient for their needs or too difficult to > attempt. i didn't find it to be either, and neither did ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 Great point, Carrol! Something we all need to remember. Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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