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Hi.

Just looking for a little reassurance, and if I'm going to find it anywhere, it

will probably be

here.

 

Since we have stopped eating meat, I've continued to study and read about the

meat

industry and how awful it is. The atrocities we commit toward the animals make

me sick.

An issue that had a huge impact on me is the artificial insemination of turkeys.

From what

I have read, the turkeys we grow today are made to be so fat that they cannot

copulate on

their own, so we have to help them out.

I believe it was The Food Revolution by John Robbins (or it could have been Diet

for a New

America) which said that all turkeys born today in the turkey industry were

conceived

using artificial insemination. This is a number of millions every year

conceived using

something that ironically resembles a turkey baster.

This really bothers me.

 

We used to keep chickens for the eggs. We only had 8 total, and they were very

sweet. We

really cared for them, and would have kept them longer, but we moved. They are

living at

a friend's house now, who takes good care of them as well. We really got to

know them,

and enjoyed having them as pets. They really didn't produce that many eggs

anyway, but

that wasn't the point.

Admittedly, chickens aren't turkeys, but I remember how the hens didn't always

exactly

appreciate the actions of the rooster, and would often run when he approached.

This

natural order of things was fine, though, because they could choose, to a

degree, when to

accept his advances (unlike the turkeys in the industry).

 

When retelling this information to a friend, I was given a little laugh and told

" It's a

turkey! " , meaning 'It doesn't matter, etc.'

I just think that God did not intend for us to violate these animals so that we

can make

sure there is a huge, fat turkey on every American table every November (let

alone all the

other turkey products). To me, it just seems really, really wrong.

 

Thanks for your input.

Jen

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I read that too, and it is sickening. People are so cruel and greedy that they

would RAPE an animal so they could get some benefit. We used to have chickens as

pets too, so I know how you feel. They're fun little animals to have around.

They're interesting to watch. Ours weren't friendly since we got them as adults,

but still they were great pets. One day I'd like to have more of them. It's

really sad that people don't care about this. My mom didn't know how cows were

killed in slaughterhouses, or that pigs and chickens were often put into

scalding tanks still alive. I told her about these things, gave her a link to

where I got the information, and she still eats meat. People might even say

something like " that's sad " or " poor animals, " but they don't stop eating them

because god forbid they do something that isn't within their social

boundaries!!! People care more about convenience than they do about lives being

lost, animals being tortured, and even their own health. We

are a small crowd, unfortunately.

 

thefourlakes <thefourlakes wrote:

Hi.

Just looking for a little reassurance, and if I'm going to find it anywhere, it

will probably be

here.

 

Since we have stopped eating meat, I've continued to study and read about the

meat

industry and how awful it is. The atrocities we commit toward the animals make

me sick.

An issue that had a huge impact on me is the artificial insemination of

turkeys. From what

I have read, the turkeys we grow today are made to be so fat that they cannot

copulate on

their own, so we have to help them out.

I believe it was The Food Revolution by John Robbins (or it could have been

Diet for a New

America) which said that all turkeys born today in the turkey industry were

conceived

using artificial insemination. This is a number of millions every year

conceived using

something that ironically resembles a turkey baster.

This really bothers me.

 

We used to keep chickens for the eggs. We only had 8 total, and they were very

sweet. We

really cared for them, and would have kept them longer, but we moved. They are

living at

a friend's house now, who takes good care of them as well. We really got to

know them,

and enjoyed having them as pets. They really didn't produce that many eggs

anyway, but

that wasn't the point.

Admittedly, chickens aren't turkeys, but I remember how the hens didn't always

exactly

appreciate the actions of the rooster, and would often run when he approached.

This

natural order of things was fine, though, because they could choose, to a

degree, when to

accept his advances (unlike the turkeys in the industry).

 

When retelling this information to a friend, I was given a little laugh and

told " It's a

turkey! " , meaning 'It doesn't matter, etc.'

I just think that God did not intend for us to violate these animals so that we

can make

sure there is a huge, fat turkey on every American table every November (let

alone all the

other turkey products). To me, it just seems really, really wrong.

 

Thanks for your input.

Jen

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Jen and everyone....

 

The treatment of animals in our meat industry is absolutely one of

many reasons I have stopped eating meat. I wonder, if there was a

way to measure the energetics of the terror and torture we inflict

on animals, for food and those we test products on, just what the

correlation would be between that measure and the measure of

disrespect and inhumanity we inflict on each other...and our

planet? What does it say about a culture that can be so cruel and

comfort itself with a line, " Its just a turkey! "

 

We move too fast and are far removed from our connection to the

Spirit of Life (however any one of us identify or commune with that)

And the more disconnected we are, the faster we move...places to go,

people to see, things to do, malls to vanquish....whatever. We drug

ourselves when and if we feel a hint of the experience of what we

are or aren;t living, to numb it out...(becouse feelings are things

that need to be " fixed " and not tools of navigation through life)

And the more numb we are, the further our disconnection as we dull

out the experience of life. In such a disSpirited mode, atrocities

are easy...and the more comfortable we are with one level of

atrocity, the easier it is to escalate them.

 

OK..that was pretty heavy, and I apologize. I am grateful for

whatever awarenesses I have, and others who I endeavor to connect

with, and the opportunity presented to those of us who do " see " and

are able and willing to " feel " to make a difference in these

dynamics. Even if only through the choices we make in our

individual lives and the living breathing example of a different way

of being in the world. It takes a great deal of courage and

strength to aspire to a different standard, let alone live by one.

 

My two cents...for what its worth.

 

Blessings,

Darla

 

 

, " thefourlakes " <thefourlakes

wrote:

>

> Hi.

> Just looking for a little reassurance, and if I'm going to find it

anywhere, it will probably be

> here.

>

> Since we have stopped eating meat, I've continued to study and

read about the meat

> industry and how awful it is. The atrocities we commit toward the

animals make me sick.

> An issue that had a huge impact on me is the artificial

insemination of turkeys. From what

> I have read, the turkeys we grow today are made to be so fat that

they cannot copulate on

> their own, so we have to help them out.

> I believe it was The Food Revolution by John Robbins (or it could

have been Diet for a New

> America) which said that all turkeys born today in the turkey

industry were conceived

> using artificial insemination. This is a number of millions every

year conceived using

> something that ironically resembles a turkey baster.

> This really bothers me.

>

> We used to keep chickens for the eggs. We only had 8 total, and

they were very sweet. We

> really cared for them, and would have kept them longer, but we

moved. They are living at

> a friend's house now, who takes good care of them as well. We

really got to know them,

> and enjoyed having them as pets. They really didn't produce that

many eggs anyway, but

> that wasn't the point.

> Admittedly, chickens aren't turkeys, but I remember how the hens

didn't always exactly

> appreciate the actions of the rooster, and would often run when he

approached. This

> natural order of things was fine, though, because they could

choose, to a degree, when to

> accept his advances (unlike the turkeys in the industry).

>

> When retelling this information to a friend, I was given a little

laugh and told " It's a

> turkey! " , meaning 'It doesn't matter, etc.'

> I just think that God did not intend for us to violate these

animals so that we can make

> sure there is a huge, fat turkey on every American table every

November (let alone all the

> other turkey products). To me, it just seems really, really wrong.

>

> Thanks for your input.

> Jen

>

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Thanks for your comments.

It's good to know I'm not alone.

 

Had a similar experience today when I expressed my concern over a biology class

at next

year's home school co-op. I made a comment about not including dissections

during the

class, which turned into a brief, but slightly heated debate. Apparently, not

wanting to add

to the senseless slaughter of lab animals makes me a freak, yet again.

 

I completely understand why it is difficult to find vegetarians.

Am learning to keep my mouth shut, and am planning to bow out of the co-op if

they

decide to include the dissection.

 

 

 

, " Darla " <mystikrythm wrote:

>

> Hi Jen and everyone....

>

> The treatment of animals in our meat industry is absolutely one of

> many reasons I have stopped eating meat. I wonder, if there was a

> way to measure the energetics of the terror and torture we inflict

> on animals, for food and those we test products on, just what the

> correlation would be between that measure and the measure of

> disrespect and inhumanity we inflict on each other...and our

> planet? What does it say about a culture that can be so cruel and

> comfort itself with a line, " Its just a turkey! "

>

> We move too fast and are far removed from our connection to the

> Spirit of Life (however any one of us identify or commune with that)

> And the more disconnected we are, the faster we move...places to go,

> people to see, things to do, malls to vanquish....whatever. We drug

> ourselves when and if we feel a hint of the experience of what we

> are or aren;t living, to numb it out...(becouse feelings are things

> that need to be " fixed " and not tools of navigation through life)

> And the more numb we are, the further our disconnection as we dull

> out the experience of life. In such a disSpirited mode, atrocities

> are easy...and the more comfortable we are with one level of

> atrocity, the easier it is to escalate them.

>

> OK..that was pretty heavy, and I apologize. I am grateful for

> whatever awarenesses I have, and others who I endeavor to connect

> with, and the opportunity presented to those of us who do " see " and

> are able and willing to " feel " to make a difference in these

> dynamics. Even if only through the choices we make in our

> individual lives and the living breathing example of a different way

> of being in the world. It takes a great deal of courage and

> strength to aspire to a different standard, let alone live by one.

>

> My two cents...for what its worth.

>

> Blessings,

> Darla

>

>

> , " thefourlakes " <thefourlakes@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hi.

> > Just looking for a little reassurance, and if I'm going to find it

> anywhere, it will probably be

> > here.

> >

> > Since we have stopped eating meat, I've continued to study and

> read about the meat

> > industry and how awful it is. The atrocities we commit toward the

> animals make me sick.

> > An issue that had a huge impact on me is the artificial

> insemination of turkeys. From what

> > I have read, the turkeys we grow today are made to be so fat that

> they cannot copulate on

> > their own, so we have to help them out.

> > I believe it was The Food Revolution by John Robbins (or it could

> have been Diet for a New

> > America) which said that all turkeys born today in the turkey

> industry were conceived

> > using artificial insemination. This is a number of millions every

> year conceived using

> > something that ironically resembles a turkey baster.

> > This really bothers me.

> >

> > We used to keep chickens for the eggs. We only had 8 total, and

> they were very sweet. We

> > really cared for them, and would have kept them longer, but we

> moved. They are living at

> > a friend's house now, who takes good care of them as well. We

> really got to know them,

> > and enjoyed having them as pets. They really didn't produce that

> many eggs anyway, but

> > that wasn't the point.

> > Admittedly, chickens aren't turkeys, but I remember how the hens

> didn't always exactly

> > appreciate the actions of the rooster, and would often run when he

> approached. This

> > natural order of things was fine, though, because they could

> choose, to a degree, when to

> > accept his advances (unlike the turkeys in the industry).

> >

> > When retelling this information to a friend, I was given a little

> laugh and told " It's a

> > turkey! " , meaning 'It doesn't matter, etc.'

> > I just think that God did not intend for us to violate these

> animals so that we can make

> > sure there is a huge, fat turkey on every American table every

> November (let alone all the

> > other turkey products). To me, it just seems really, really wrong.

> >

> > Thanks for your input.

> > Jen

> >

>

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