Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 Hi. Just looking for a little reassurance, and if I'm going to find it anywhere, it will probably be here. Since we have stopped eating meat, I've continued to study and read about the meat industry and how awful it is. The atrocities we commit toward the animals make me sick. An issue that had a huge impact on me is the artificial insemination of turkeys. From what I have read, the turkeys we grow today are made to be so fat that they cannot copulate on their own, so we have to help them out. I believe it was The Food Revolution by John Robbins (or it could have been Diet for a New America) which said that all turkeys born today in the turkey industry were conceived using artificial insemination. This is a number of millions every year conceived using something that ironically resembles a turkey baster. This really bothers me. We used to keep chickens for the eggs. We only had 8 total, and they were very sweet. We really cared for them, and would have kept them longer, but we moved. They are living at a friend's house now, who takes good care of them as well. We really got to know them, and enjoyed having them as pets. They really didn't produce that many eggs anyway, but that wasn't the point. Admittedly, chickens aren't turkeys, but I remember how the hens didn't always exactly appreciate the actions of the rooster, and would often run when he approached. This natural order of things was fine, though, because they could choose, to a degree, when to accept his advances (unlike the turkeys in the industry). When retelling this information to a friend, I was given a little laugh and told " It's a turkey! " , meaning 'It doesn't matter, etc.' I just think that God did not intend for us to violate these animals so that we can make sure there is a huge, fat turkey on every American table every November (let alone all the other turkey products). To me, it just seems really, really wrong. Thanks for your input. Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 I read that too, and it is sickening. People are so cruel and greedy that they would RAPE an animal so they could get some benefit. We used to have chickens as pets too, so I know how you feel. They're fun little animals to have around. They're interesting to watch. Ours weren't friendly since we got them as adults, but still they were great pets. One day I'd like to have more of them. It's really sad that people don't care about this. My mom didn't know how cows were killed in slaughterhouses, or that pigs and chickens were often put into scalding tanks still alive. I told her about these things, gave her a link to where I got the information, and she still eats meat. People might even say something like " that's sad " or " poor animals, " but they don't stop eating them because god forbid they do something that isn't within their social boundaries!!! People care more about convenience than they do about lives being lost, animals being tortured, and even their own health. We are a small crowd, unfortunately. thefourlakes <thefourlakes wrote: Hi. Just looking for a little reassurance, and if I'm going to find it anywhere, it will probably be here. Since we have stopped eating meat, I've continued to study and read about the meat industry and how awful it is. The atrocities we commit toward the animals make me sick. An issue that had a huge impact on me is the artificial insemination of turkeys. From what I have read, the turkeys we grow today are made to be so fat that they cannot copulate on their own, so we have to help them out. I believe it was The Food Revolution by John Robbins (or it could have been Diet for a New America) which said that all turkeys born today in the turkey industry were conceived using artificial insemination. This is a number of millions every year conceived using something that ironically resembles a turkey baster. This really bothers me. We used to keep chickens for the eggs. We only had 8 total, and they were very sweet. We really cared for them, and would have kept them longer, but we moved. They are living at a friend's house now, who takes good care of them as well. We really got to know them, and enjoyed having them as pets. They really didn't produce that many eggs anyway, but that wasn't the point. Admittedly, chickens aren't turkeys, but I remember how the hens didn't always exactly appreciate the actions of the rooster, and would often run when he approached. This natural order of things was fine, though, because they could choose, to a degree, when to accept his advances (unlike the turkeys in the industry). When retelling this information to a friend, I was given a little laugh and told " It's a turkey! " , meaning 'It doesn't matter, etc.' I just think that God did not intend for us to violate these animals so that we can make sure there is a huge, fat turkey on every American table every November (let alone all the other turkey products). To me, it just seems really, really wrong. Thanks for your input. Jen Kadee Sedtal Brain: " Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? " Pinky: " I think so, Brain, but if the plural of mouse is mice, wouldn't the plural of spouse be spice? " Check out my new , Classical 2 at http://launch.classical2/ Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Answers Food & Drink Q & A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 Hi Jen and everyone.... The treatment of animals in our meat industry is absolutely one of many reasons I have stopped eating meat. I wonder, if there was a way to measure the energetics of the terror and torture we inflict on animals, for food and those we test products on, just what the correlation would be between that measure and the measure of disrespect and inhumanity we inflict on each other...and our planet? What does it say about a culture that can be so cruel and comfort itself with a line, " Its just a turkey! " We move too fast and are far removed from our connection to the Spirit of Life (however any one of us identify or commune with that) And the more disconnected we are, the faster we move...places to go, people to see, things to do, malls to vanquish....whatever. We drug ourselves when and if we feel a hint of the experience of what we are or aren;t living, to numb it out...(becouse feelings are things that need to be " fixed " and not tools of navigation through life) And the more numb we are, the further our disconnection as we dull out the experience of life. In such a disSpirited mode, atrocities are easy...and the more comfortable we are with one level of atrocity, the easier it is to escalate them. OK..that was pretty heavy, and I apologize. I am grateful for whatever awarenesses I have, and others who I endeavor to connect with, and the opportunity presented to those of us who do " see " and are able and willing to " feel " to make a difference in these dynamics. Even if only through the choices we make in our individual lives and the living breathing example of a different way of being in the world. It takes a great deal of courage and strength to aspire to a different standard, let alone live by one. My two cents...for what its worth. Blessings, Darla , " thefourlakes " <thefourlakes wrote: > > Hi. > Just looking for a little reassurance, and if I'm going to find it anywhere, it will probably be > here. > > Since we have stopped eating meat, I've continued to study and read about the meat > industry and how awful it is. The atrocities we commit toward the animals make me sick. > An issue that had a huge impact on me is the artificial insemination of turkeys. From what > I have read, the turkeys we grow today are made to be so fat that they cannot copulate on > their own, so we have to help them out. > I believe it was The Food Revolution by John Robbins (or it could have been Diet for a New > America) which said that all turkeys born today in the turkey industry were conceived > using artificial insemination. This is a number of millions every year conceived using > something that ironically resembles a turkey baster. > This really bothers me. > > We used to keep chickens for the eggs. We only had 8 total, and they were very sweet. We > really cared for them, and would have kept them longer, but we moved. They are living at > a friend's house now, who takes good care of them as well. We really got to know them, > and enjoyed having them as pets. They really didn't produce that many eggs anyway, but > that wasn't the point. > Admittedly, chickens aren't turkeys, but I remember how the hens didn't always exactly > appreciate the actions of the rooster, and would often run when he approached. This > natural order of things was fine, though, because they could choose, to a degree, when to > accept his advances (unlike the turkeys in the industry). > > When retelling this information to a friend, I was given a little laugh and told " It's a > turkey! " , meaning 'It doesn't matter, etc.' > I just think that God did not intend for us to violate these animals so that we can make > sure there is a huge, fat turkey on every American table every November (let alone all the > other turkey products). To me, it just seems really, really wrong. > > Thanks for your input. > Jen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 Thanks for your comments. It's good to know I'm not alone. Had a similar experience today when I expressed my concern over a biology class at next year's home school co-op. I made a comment about not including dissections during the class, which turned into a brief, but slightly heated debate. Apparently, not wanting to add to the senseless slaughter of lab animals makes me a freak, yet again. I completely understand why it is difficult to find vegetarians. Am learning to keep my mouth shut, and am planning to bow out of the co-op if they decide to include the dissection. , " Darla " <mystikrythm wrote: > > Hi Jen and everyone.... > > The treatment of animals in our meat industry is absolutely one of > many reasons I have stopped eating meat. I wonder, if there was a > way to measure the energetics of the terror and torture we inflict > on animals, for food and those we test products on, just what the > correlation would be between that measure and the measure of > disrespect and inhumanity we inflict on each other...and our > planet? What does it say about a culture that can be so cruel and > comfort itself with a line, " Its just a turkey! " > > We move too fast and are far removed from our connection to the > Spirit of Life (however any one of us identify or commune with that) > And the more disconnected we are, the faster we move...places to go, > people to see, things to do, malls to vanquish....whatever. We drug > ourselves when and if we feel a hint of the experience of what we > are or aren;t living, to numb it out...(becouse feelings are things > that need to be " fixed " and not tools of navigation through life) > And the more numb we are, the further our disconnection as we dull > out the experience of life. In such a disSpirited mode, atrocities > are easy...and the more comfortable we are with one level of > atrocity, the easier it is to escalate them. > > OK..that was pretty heavy, and I apologize. I am grateful for > whatever awarenesses I have, and others who I endeavor to connect > with, and the opportunity presented to those of us who do " see " and > are able and willing to " feel " to make a difference in these > dynamics. Even if only through the choices we make in our > individual lives and the living breathing example of a different way > of being in the world. It takes a great deal of courage and > strength to aspire to a different standard, let alone live by one. > > My two cents...for what its worth. > > Blessings, > Darla > > > , " thefourlakes " <thefourlakes@> > wrote: > > > > Hi. > > Just looking for a little reassurance, and if I'm going to find it > anywhere, it will probably be > > here. > > > > Since we have stopped eating meat, I've continued to study and > read about the meat > > industry and how awful it is. The atrocities we commit toward the > animals make me sick. > > An issue that had a huge impact on me is the artificial > insemination of turkeys. From what > > I have read, the turkeys we grow today are made to be so fat that > they cannot copulate on > > their own, so we have to help them out. > > I believe it was The Food Revolution by John Robbins (or it could > have been Diet for a New > > America) which said that all turkeys born today in the turkey > industry were conceived > > using artificial insemination. This is a number of millions every > year conceived using > > something that ironically resembles a turkey baster. > > This really bothers me. > > > > We used to keep chickens for the eggs. We only had 8 total, and > they were very sweet. We > > really cared for them, and would have kept them longer, but we > moved. They are living at > > a friend's house now, who takes good care of them as well. We > really got to know them, > > and enjoyed having them as pets. They really didn't produce that > many eggs anyway, but > > that wasn't the point. > > Admittedly, chickens aren't turkeys, but I remember how the hens > didn't always exactly > > appreciate the actions of the rooster, and would often run when he > approached. This > > natural order of things was fine, though, because they could > choose, to a degree, when to > > accept his advances (unlike the turkeys in the industry). > > > > When retelling this information to a friend, I was given a little > laugh and told " It's a > > turkey! " , meaning 'It doesn't matter, etc.' > > I just think that God did not intend for us to violate these > animals so that we can make > > sure there is a huge, fat turkey on every American table every > November (let alone all the > > other turkey products). To me, it just seems really, really wrong. > > > > Thanks for your input. > > Jen > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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