Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 In a message dated 4/23/07 12:50:49 PM, thesmartfamily3 writes: > Our approach is that we are keeping him off of all soy for the next > week and then the following week we will keep him off of all dairy and > see how his symptoms are for those two weeks. > I'm not a nutritionist, of course, but both of my younger children were intolerant to dairy. The middle one outgrew it. (she was nursing, but I cut it out of my diet and she was okay after that.) The youngest had a worse time of it and this time I had to cut it out of my diet and his for years. He would occasionally get some dairy *accidently* (grandparents) and he would get an ear infection, sinus congestion, etc. On another note, I work with nursing moms and it can take a month or so to really get all dairy out of one's system. Just didn't want you to think that if it didn't work in a week or two that that wasn't the culprit. FWIW, Pam ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 We think that my son has a food intolerance. For about a month now he has had diahrea on and off and for several years now (he is 3) he has had eczema on and off. We think, but are not positive, that either dairy or soy is the culprit. I have looked up the elimination diet and the detection diet and every web site either wants money for you to go through their program or they are selling pills to help " fix " the symptoms, or the information that they give is that you must eat nothing but turkey and potatoes for six weeks. So, I know that people on this group have been through this. Our approach is that we are keeping him off of all soy for the next week and then the following week we will keep him off of all dairy and see how his symptoms are for those two weeks. Will this work? Are we missign something here? If he has an intolerance and not an allergy, would a doctor be able to do any sort of tests to confirm? Should we take him to a nutritionist? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Rachael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 You're doing just what we did. Our daughter was having one ear infection after another, and we tried eliminating dairy. Voila. She hasn't had a single ear infection since! smartgirl27us <thesmartfamily3 wrote: We think that my son has a food intolerance. For about a month now he has had diahrea on and off and for several years now (he is 3) he has had eczema on and off. We think, but are not positive, that either dairy or soy is the culprit. I have looked up the elimination diet and the detection diet and every web site either wants money for you to go through their program or they are selling pills to help " fix " the symptoms, or the information that they give is that you must eat nothing but turkey and potatoes for six weeks. So, I know that people on this group have been through this. Our approach is that we are keeping him off of all soy for the next week and then the following week we will keep him off of all dairy and see how his symptoms are for those two weeks. Will this work? Are we missign something here? If he has an intolerance and not an allergy, would a doctor be able to do any sort of tests to confirm? Should we take him to a nutritionist? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Rachael Kadee Sedtal Brain: " Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? " Pinky: " I think so, Brain, but if the plural of mouse is mice, wouldn't the plural of spouse be spice? " Check out my new , Classical 2 at http://launch.classical2/ Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? Check outnew cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Hi Rachael, My son has alot of food allergies,we took him to an allergist and had him tested. They did the test where they prick them on their backs to introduce the food or thing (pet dander, different tree, grass other non food items) to their systems, if they are allergic a whelp will rise up on their body. And depending on the size that will determine the extent of the allergy. (it doesn't hurt it is just uncomfortable if they wind up being allergic to what was introduced to their bodies). If nothing appears than they are not allergic to the substance that pricked their bodies. I know I probably described something that sounds like torture but it really doesn't hurt and it helps to check for all kinds of allergies.Hope this helped some. Ms. Meeka " If we seek to stay faithful, regardless of our circumstances, God will work things out in the end, even if it's at the very end. " Revelations 21:1 smartgirl27us <thesmartfamily3 Monday, April 23, 2007 1:30:45 PM food intolerance We think that my son has a food intolerance. For about a month now he has had diahrea on and off and for several years now (he is 3) he has had eczema on and off. We think, but are not positive, that either dairy or soy is the culprit. I have looked up the elimination diet and the detection diet and every web site either wants money for you to go through their program or they are selling pills to help " fix " the symptoms, or the information that they give is that you must eat nothing but turkey and potatoes for six weeks. So, I know that people on this group have been through this. Our approach is that we are keeping him off of all soy for the next week and then the following week we will keep him off of all dairy and see how his symptoms are for those two weeks. Will this work? Are we missign something here? If he has an intolerance and not an allergy, would a doctor be able to do any sort of tests to confirm? Should we take him to a nutritionist? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Rachael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 If you are going to keep him off dairy/soy you'll have to do it for longer than a week to see any results before switching to the other. Food takes longer to go through your blood stream than you'd think. I'd keep him off each for about a month in order to see clear results. Hope that helps! Jessica Cocker http://jrc.teamdreamsrenewed.com/ Visit my eBay store! Check out my PoshPoints items too! smartgirl27us <thesmartfamily3 Monday, April 23, 2007 12:30:45 PM food intolerance We think that my son has a food intolerance. For about a month now he has had diahrea on and off and for several years now (he is 3) he has had eczema on and off. We think, but are not positive, that either dairy or soy is the culprit. I have looked up the elimination diet and the detection diet and every web site either wants money for you to go through their program or they are selling pills to help " fix " the symptoms, or the information that they give is that you must eat nothing but turkey and potatoes for six weeks. So, I know that people on this group have been through this. Our approach is that we are keeping him off of all soy for the next week and then the following week we will keep him off of all dairy and see how his symptoms are for those two weeks. Will this work? Are we missign something here? If he has an intolerance and not an allergy, would a doctor be able to do any sort of tests to confirm? Should we take him to a nutritionist? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Rachael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 My son has a dairy allergy. He had pretty much the same symptoms you describe, only now that we've totally eliminated it when he gets it, it's escalated to whelts on his legs, rashes and his behavior turns amazingly terrible. We really figured it out when we were supplementing with formula in his cereal when he was about 10 months old - he started puking up cereal, and over the next day or so I figured it out, stopped the formula, and he was totally fine - and this was after an ER visit and a few other doctor visits. ) Before we realized it, we dealt with a lot of diarrhea, rashes (esp. where the poop touched his skin- it looked almost like a burn and was hot to the touch) and whelts, ear infections and what we thought was an allergy runny nose. When we eliminated it, he didn't have any issues (and my later research indicated that his slow to gain weight issues were mostly likely related - his ped. wouldn't diagnose FTT because he was ahead or right on for his milestones and she was always impressed with him). Anyway - If you do eliminate dairy and/or soy - be sure you are eliminating it from EVERYTHING - we still run into issues with breads, crackers, premade vegetarian stuff (if you take out dairy - as those have a ton of it in). We have to read everything to be sure. I have a huge list of dairy/derivatives. Watch out for casien/whey/rennet/dairy/lacto-/casienate. My son is allergic to it all - we tried (before I became vegan) other animal milks and they also bothered him, though some people are ok with goat/sheep milk/cheese. We found it was easier for us to go vegan because of all the hidden dairy. I've heard you can eliminate everything but BRAT (bread rice apples and toast) and then add stuff back in one per week. We had an idea as there's a lactose intolerance on my husband's side, but our son is beyond just the intolerance. I have a book that was also very useful which is called " Is This Your Child? Identifying undiagnosed allergies " (or something like that). They may have it at your local library, but it helped me also figure out that our son has some degree of low blood sugar, so we have to plan out his snacks (and we just got back from a cruise, and there were some times that were quite terrible because of what we had to work with food wise...but we got through it- and we brought tofu along). Good luck. Missie On 4/23/07, smartgirl27us <thesmartfamily3 wrote: > > We think that my son has a food intolerance. For about a month now he > has had diahrea on and off and for several years now (he is 3) he has > had eczema on and off. We think, but are not positive, that either > dairy or soy is the culprit. I have looked up the elimination diet > and the detection diet and every web site either wants money for you > to go through their program or they are selling pills to help " fix " > the symptoms, or the information that they give is that you must eat > nothing but turkey and potatoes for six weeks. > > So, I know that people on this group have been through this. > > Our approach is that we are keeping him off of all soy for the next > week and then the following week we will keep him off of all dairy and > see how his symptoms are for those two weeks. Will this work? Are we > missign something here? If he has an intolerance and not an allergy, > would a doctor be able to do any sort of tests to confirm? Should we > take him to a nutritionist? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. > > Rachael > > > -- I'm all out of bubblegum. -- http://mszzzi.evite.shutterfly.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Rachel, Although we don't have any known allergies in our family, we have numerous friends with allergies which range from life-threatening to intolerance. All of them say that the skin and the blood tests for allergies are not very accurate. The most accurate thing to do is keep a detailed food diary and then cutting out the food which seems to be the issue. Here is some info from Dr. Sears on the topic: http://www.askdrsears.com/html/4/T041800.asp Here is the Food Allergy Network website: http://foodallergynetwork.com/ Good luck tracking it down. Linda > > > smartgirl27us <thesmartfamily3 > > Monday, April 23, 2007 1:30:45 PM > food intolerance > > We think that my son has a food intolerance. For > about a month now he > has had diahrea on and off and for several years now > (he is 3) he has > had eczema on and off. We think, but are not > positive, that either > dairy or soy is the culprit. I have looked up the > elimination diet > and the detection diet and every web site either > wants money for you > to go through their program or they are selling > pills to help " fix " > the symptoms, or the information that they give is > that you must eat > nothing but turkey and potatoes for six weeks. > > So, I know that people on this group have been > through this. > > Our approach is that we are keeping him off of all > soy for the next > week and then the following week we will keep him > off of all dairy and > see how his symptoms are for those two weeks. Will > this work? Are we > missign something here? If he has an intolerance and > not an allergy, > would a doctor be able to do any sort of tests to > confirm? Should we > take him to a nutritionist? Any suggestions? Thanks > in advance. > > Rachael > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Linda http://triballife.net/ A Marketplace for a Better World Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 It definitely takes a month to get the potential allergens out of your system. Wheat is another possible allergen Meeka Reid <abetterpart_of wrote: Hi Rachael, My son has alot of food allergies,we took him to an allergist and had him tested. They did the test where they prick them on their backs to introduce the food or thing (pet dander, different tree, grass other non food items) to their systems, if they are allergic a whelp will rise up on their body. And depending on the size that will determine the extent of the allergy. (it doesn't hurt it is just uncomfortable if they wind up being allergic to what was introduced to their bodies). If nothing appears than they are not allergic to the substance that pricked their bodies. I know I probably described something that sounds like torture but it really doesn't hurt and it helps to check for all kinds of allergies.Hope this helped some. Ms. Meeka " If we seek to stay faithful, regardless of our circumstances, God will work things out in the end, even if it's at the very end. " Revelations 21:1 smartgirl27us <thesmartfamily3 Monday, April 23, 2007 1:30:45 PM food intolerance We think that my son has a food intolerance. For about a month now he has had diahrea on and off and for several years now (he is 3) he has had eczema on and off. We think, but are not positive, that either dairy or soy is the culprit. I have looked up the elimination diet and the detection diet and every web site either wants money for you to go through their program or they are selling pills to help " fix " the symptoms, or the information that they give is that you must eat nothing but turkey and potatoes for six weeks. So, I know that people on this group have been through this. Our approach is that we are keeping him off of all soy for the next week and then the following week we will keep him off of all dairy and see how his symptoms are for those two weeks. Will this work? Are we missign something here? If he has an intolerance and not an allergy, would a doctor be able to do any sort of tests to confirm? Should we take him to a nutritionist? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Rachael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 When we went through this, the doctor said to stay off all dairy for 6 full weeks before we'd know for sure because it takes so long to be completely eliminated from our systems. Heather Jess wrote: > > If you are going to keep him off dairy/soy you'll have to do it for > longer than a week to see any results before switching to the other. > Food takes longer to go through your blood stream than you'd think. > I'd keep him off each for about a month in order to see clear results. > Hope that helps! > > Jessica Cocker > http://jrc.teamdreamsrenewed.com/ <http://jrc.teamdreamsrenewed.com/> > Visit my eBay store! > Check out my PoshPoints items too! > > > > > smartgirl27us <thesmartfamily3 > <thesmartfamily3%40>> > <%40> > Monday, April 23, 2007 12:30:45 PM > food intolerance > > We think that my son has a food intolerance. For about a month now he > has had diahrea on and off and for several years now (he is 3) he has > had eczema on and off. We think, but are not positive, that either > dairy or soy is the culprit. I have looked up the elimination diet > and the detection diet and every web site either wants money for you > to go through their program or they are selling pills to help " fix " > the symptoms, or the information that they give is that you must eat > nothing but turkey and potatoes for six weeks. > > So, I know that people on this group have been through this. > > Our approach is that we are keeping him off of all soy for the next > week and then the following week we will keep him off of all dairy and > see how his symptoms are for those two weeks. Will this work? Are we > missign something here? If he has an intolerance and not an allergy, > would a doctor be able to do any sort of tests to confirm? Should we > take him to a nutritionist? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. > > Rachael > > > > > <> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Ms. Meeka wrote: <<My son has alot of food allergies,we took him to an allergist and had him tested. They did the test where they prick them on their backs to introduce the food or thing (pet dander, different tree, grass other non food items) to their systems, if they are allergic a whelp will rise up on their body. And depending on the size that will determine the extent of the allergy. (it doesn't hurt it is just uncomfortable if they wind up being allergic to what was introduced to their bodies).>> I'm surprised your allergist did the food allergy testing on your child's back. As our allergist explained when testing my older child many years ago, some food allergies have a tendency to be life-threatening, and you can't put a tourniquet around someone's back. So, at least around here, they test food allergies on the forearm. I agree with other posters that of the two triggers suspected by the original poster, dairy is the more likely culprit. Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 I know nothing about soy, but we've had the dairy. Eczema generally tends to respond to dairy, as far as everything I've seen. Dairy takes about 6 weeks to fully cleart the system. I'd probably try dairy-free for 6 weeks, and see if it works... If not, then take soy out too. Many soy intolerances are linked with a dairy intolerance. Our experience was a complete relief of all gastrointestinal and eczema symptoms after removing all dairy. - smartgirl27us<thesmartfamily3 < > Monday, April 23, 2007 1:30 PM food intolerance We think that my son has a food intolerance. For about a month now he has had diahrea on and off and for several years now (he is 3) he has had eczema on and off. We think, but are not positive, that either dairy or soy is the culprit. I have looked up the elimination diet and the detection diet and every web site either wants money for you to go through their program or they are selling pills to help " fix " the symptoms, or the information that they give is that you must eat nothing but turkey and potatoes for six weeks. So, I know that people on this group have been through this. Our approach is that we are keeping him off of all soy for the next week and then the following week we will keep him off of all dairy and see how his symptoms are for those two weeks. Will this work? Are we missign something here? If he has an intolerance and not an allergy, would a doctor be able to do any sort of tests to confirm? Should we take him to a nutritionist? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Rachael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 in my understanding, these two intolerances tend to manifest very differently. soy tends to manifest as itching, bloating/gas, and irritability, and dairy tends to manifest as skin problems (esp. eczema), ear infections, chronic running nose, cycling diarrhea - basically just a massive mucus imbalance in the body. so if i were you, i'd go with eliminating dairy first as your most likely culprit, and definitely do more than just 2 weeks. i'd go with 6 weeks - 2 months. milk sits and rots in the intestines for a lo-o-o-ong time, so it will take quite a while for it to be flushed out. push lots of water and hot baths to encourage flushing and add lots of raw foods for healing during the interim. On 4/23/07, Lisa Schroeder <awoogala wrote: > > I know nothing about soy, but we've had the dairy. Eczema generally tends > to respond to dairy, as far as everything I've seen. Dairy takes about 6 > weeks to fully cleart the system. I'd probably try dairy-free for 6 weeks, > and see if it works... If not, then take soy out too. > Many soy intolerances are linked with a dairy intolerance. > Our experience was a complete relief of all gastrointestinal and eczema > symptoms after removing all dairy. > - > smartgirl27us<thesmartfamily3 > < > > Monday, April 23, 2007 1:30 PM > food intolerance > > > We think that my son has a food intolerance. For about a month now he > has had diahrea on and off and for several years now (he is 3) he has > had eczema on and off. We think, but are not positive, that either > dairy or soy is the culprit. I have looked up the elimination diet > and the detection diet and every web site either wants money for you > to go through their program or they are selling pills to help " fix " > the symptoms, or the information that they give is that you must eat > nothing but turkey and potatoes for six weeks. > > So, I know that people on this group have been through this. > > Our approach is that we are keeping him off of all soy for the next > week and then the following week we will keep him off of all dairy and > see how his symptoms are for those two weeks. Will this work? Are we > missign something here? If he has an intolerance and not an allergy, > would a doctor be able to do any sort of tests to confirm? Should we > take him to a nutritionist? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. > > Rachael > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 This is very helpful (as were all the other posts) but I realize now that he has had all the symptoms that you describe for dairy intolerance. He often has a runny/stuffy nose at night, which my husband thought might be a slight dust mite allergy. He has had three ear infections in the past year and a half. He has cyclic bouts of diarrhea. He gets eczema, especially around his legs and bottom. , chandelle' <earthmother213 wrote: > > in my understanding, these two intolerances tend to manifest very > differently. soy tends to manifest as itching, bloating/gas, and > irritability, and dairy tends to manifest as skin problems (esp. eczema), > ear infections, chronic running nose, cycling diarrhea - basically just a > massive mucus imbalance in the body. so if i were you, i'd go with > eliminating dairy first as your most likely culprit, and definitely do more > than just 2 weeks. i'd go with 6 weeks - 2 months. milk sits and rots in > the intestines for a lo-o-o-ong time, so it will take quite a while for it > to be flushed out. push lots of water and hot baths to encourage flushing > and add lots of raw foods for healing during the interim. > > On 4/23/07, Lisa Schroeder <awoogala wrote: > > > > I know nothing about soy, but we've had the dairy. Eczema generally tends > > to respond to dairy, as far as everything I've seen. Dairy takes about 6 > > weeks to fully cleart the system. I'd probably try dairy-free for 6 weeks, > > and see if it works... If not, then take soy out too. > > Many soy intolerances are linked with a dairy intolerance. > > Our experience was a complete relief of all gastrointestinal and eczema > > symptoms after removing all dairy. > > - > > smartgirl27us<thesmartfamily3 > > To: < > > > Monday, April 23, 2007 1:30 PM > > food intolerance > > > > > > We think that my son has a food intolerance. For about a month now he > > has had diahrea on and off and for several years now (he is 3) he has > > had eczema on and off. We think, but are not positive, that either > > dairy or soy is the culprit. I have looked up the elimination diet > > and the detection diet and every web site either wants money for you > > to go through their program or they are selling pills to help " fix " > > the symptoms, or the information that they give is that you must eat > > nothing but turkey and potatoes for six weeks. > > > > So, I know that people on this group have been through this. > > > > Our approach is that we are keeping him off of all soy for the next > > week and then the following week we will keep him off of all dairy and > > see how his symptoms are for those two weeks. Will this work? Are we > > missign something here? If he has an intolerance and not an allergy, > > would a doctor be able to do any sort of tests to confirm? Should we > > take him to a nutritionist? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. > > > > Rachael > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 I wanted to share my veterianry experience in conducting skin allergy tests and food eliminations in pets and then also working with a pediatrician with my own daughter. Six weeks is usually the recommended STARTING point for any diet elimination. If at the end of six weeks, you have seen remarkable improvement, you can generally make a safe assumption and then add the offending food back in for further proof. However, most diet eliminations should be carried out for 6 MONTHS. It takes the immunological system time to " quiet down " from the assault of the allergen. Trial eliminations are pretty simple and you should find what you need without paying for it (unless you are seeking medical consultation). I'm sure your library has info. We recently went through an elimination for my DD for bananas and gluten. Her improvement to no gluten was noticeable in as little as 2 days. This is not uncommon but many factors can be involved so we stayed the course. After 6 months we added back the gluten and she did fine for about two months and then she slowly started to have problems again. She is now gluten free. If she gets gluten, I can see symptoms in as little as 2 hours. (We could have stopped the elimination trial at 6 weeks but the treatment is the same as the trial - elimination. So I made sure her system was well rested before we reintroduced.) You don't necessarily need to go through a trial. If you can see associations between eating and symptons, you can remove the offending food. Period. It's up to you. An elimination trial will give you supporting evidence, though, if you have to convince others. Skin testing is not without problems. If you get a postive reaction, it is likely to be a true positive. If you get a negative reaction, it certainly can be a false negative. This is especially true in the younger ones - some pediatricians and allergists don't like testing those under three because their rate of false negatives are high. Of all allergens that can be tested for in a skin test, food allergens are the most difficult to get an accurate reading. That doesn't mean the testing is not a good idea. You just need to understand the limitations. BRAT - I believe this stands for Bananas, rice, apple, toast. (Toast and bread both being the same). This is commonly recommended for treatment of non-life threatening diarrhea because these foods (types of fiber,etc.) promote bulking or constipation. They help " dry up " the diarrhea. They are also easy on the digestive system for many people. Good luck, Carrol (OK here's the disclaimer. I feel like such a boob for posting this. I don't see others posting a disclaimer but the continuing ed classes and insurance people say I must. I am a vet and not a human doctor. I am not recommending a particualr treatment. Please be sure to discuss your questions with your doctor.) , Heather Hossfeld <hlh4850 wrote: > > When we went through this, the doctor said to stay off all dairy for 6 > full weeks before we'd know for sure because it takes so long to be > completely eliminated from our systems. > Heather > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 Liz, If you have more info or a link to this, I would love for you to forward it. I find this curious because one normally wouldn't tourniquet the arm during a reaction either. Yes, some people react violently to even the smallest allergen. But, the time spent placing the tourniquet should be used to give drugs to counteract the reaction. And the amount of allergen used is very small and placed intradermally, so it doesn't have the delivery one would expect in a poisonous snake bite. Please send me any info you have. I would love to read about this and add it to my files. Thanks, Carrol , ERB <bakwin wrote: > > Ms. Meeka wrote: > > <<My son has alot of food allergies,we took him to an > allergist and had him tested. They did the test where > they prick them on their backs to introduce the food > or thing (pet dander, different tree, grass other non > food items) to their systems, if they are allergic a > whelp will rise up on their body. And depending on the > size that will determine the extent of the allergy. > (it doesn't hurt it is just uncomfortable if they wind > up being allergic to what was introduced to their > bodies).>> > > I'm surprised your allergist did the food allergy > testing on your child's back. As our allergist > explained when testing my older child many years ago, > some food allergies have a tendency to be > life-threatening, and you can't put a tourniquet > around someone's back. So, at least around here, > they test food allergies on the forearm. > > I agree with other posters that of the two triggers > suspected by the original poster, dairy is the more > likely culprit. > > Liz > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 Carrol asked: <<If you have more info or a link to this, I would love for you to forward it. I find this curious because one normally wouldn't tourniquet the arm during a reaction either. Yes, some people react violently to even the smallest allergen. But, the time spent placing the tourniquet should be used to give drugs to counteract the reaction. And the amount of allergen used is very small and placed intradermally, so it doesn't have the delivery one would expect in a poisonous snake bite. Please send me any info you have. I would love to read about this and add it to my files.>> I don't have any links. It's what the leading pediatric allergist at a major teaching hospital told me while they were setting up the testing equipment (at the hospital). Presumably if there were a severe reaction they would have counteracted the spread of that reaction both by restricting its movement and through drugs. We were testing for peanut allergy, which we'd already suspected from the hives she was getting. Peanut & seafood allergies can be amazingly dangerous. In fact, that same daughter was in a classroom for three years with a child who was so allergic that no one who entered the classroom, even just to drop a child off, could have had any trace of peanuts or tree nuts for breakfast before arriving. At the time, I appreciated the thought that went into figuring out how to most safely test for an allergy that can be deadly in minutes. But all I can tell you about it is that's what he said. Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Thanks Liz. I appreciate the info. I am always looking for new information where ever I can find it. It is difficult for me to keep up with my reading and CE for the same reasons I can no longer work. If you find time to post or email me the name of the university, I may be able to find the info on their website. Many univ. and teaching hospitals post their own research as well as their internal newsletter which has summaries of new research, etc. Thanks again, Carrol , ERB <bakwin wrote: > I don't have any links. It's what the leading > pediatric allergist at a major teaching hospital told > me while they were setting up the testing equipment > (at the hospital). Presumably if there were a severe > reaction they would have counteracted the spread of > that reaction both by restricting its movement and > through drugs... > >> At the time, I appreciated the thought that went into > figuring out how to most safely test for an allergy > that can be deadly in minutes. But all I can tell you > about it is that's what he said. > > Liz > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 This is what I typed: > Skin testing is not without problems. If you get a postive reaction, it > is likely to be a true positive. If you get a negative reaction, it > certainly can be a false negative. This is especially true in the > younger ones - some pediatricians and allergists don't like testing > those under three because their rate of false negatives are high. Of > all allergens that can be tested for in a skin test, food allergens are > the most difficult to get an accurate reading. That doesn't mean the > testing is not a good idea. You just need to understand the limitations. This is what I should have typed: False positives and false negatives varies upon species. It is my understanding that in humans there may be debate over the incidence of false positives. Some feel it is high due to cross reactions with other substances. Of all allergens that can be tested for in a skin test, food allergens are the most difficult to get an accurate reading. My pediatrician, working with local immunologists/allergists, does not like to send a child under 3 years for a skin test because the incidence of false negatives is supposedly high enough to question any negative result at all. Whereas she is much more likely to believe a positive reaction in a child this young. A food intolerance is not a true allergy by definition. This could certainly account for a negative reaction on a skin test but plenty of problems being experienced when the food is part of the diet. This is one reason a diet elimination trial is good to pursue even if you do the skin test. (The problem with what I typed before " you get a postive reaction, it is ***likely*** to be a true positive. " implies that there is a low incidence of false positives in any age person tested) I'm sorry if I confused anyone. Carrol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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