Guest guest Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 I found this article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6653175.stm It sounds like they now have rennet (from cows) in many of their products. From other searches, apparently the ones with expiry date of Oct 1 are still fine (as they were made before the mfgr changes). What I don't get is that I thought most/nearly all of these products contained milk anyway, but I never looked. I just don't even bother reading labels if it says milk chocolate, since that already says it all for me (some stuff we do buy but it says chocolate or dark chocolate, and then I will read to see - we have to be careful not only because I'm vegan, but my son has a dairy allergy, so it's very important). I guess we don't really buy that kind of thing anyway (like I said I just figured it all had milk in it anyway, so I never even looked or anything - I've always been a dark chocolate gal) so I really have no clue if any of the ones they say are no longer ok had milk in them before. Anyone know? I was just curious, because I saw that there was an ice cream that they said was ok before, but now isn't because of the rennet/whey...did they not have dairy in them before? What was it made of before- that seems kind of scary, LOL. Also, the only article I could find was from the BBC news (and everything else I found was related to that particular article), so was this just the versions they send overseas (where they seem to have more consideration for vege/vegans with this stuff) or is it across the board? Not that I'm going to seek it out, I'm just curious. It does seem counteractive for them since they now they have a large following across the pond that is vegan/vegetarian that buy their products. We have a Mars factory not far from us over in Chicago - and I've not seen anything local about the changes they've made. hope this is coherent - it's still early here for me, I need to go have some tea or something to wake me up. Missie On 5/16/07, Underwood-Fowler Cindy <CDUFOWLER wrote: > > Eew - what have they put in it???? > > Cindy > > _____ > > <%40> [ > <%40>] On > Behalf Of claire128588 > 15 May 2007 19:47 > <%40> > Old Veggie, new Vegan > > p.s I presume you all picked up on the news yesterday about Mars > confectionary no longer being vegetarian. > > Thanks > > Claire > > . > > < > http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=2074869/grpspId=1705042054/msgId > =14161/stime=1179255084/nc1=3848525/nc2=4025306/nc3=3> > > > " This e-mail is intended for the recipient only. If you are not the > intended recipient you must not use, disclose, distribute, copy, print, > or rely upon this e-mail. If an addressing or transmission error has > misdirected this e-mail, please notify the author by replying to this > e-mail. " > > " Recipients should note that all e-mail traffic on MOD systems is > subject to monitoring and auditing. " > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 The problem with rennet is that it is made from the lining of calves stomachs. So whereas vegetarians are happy to consume milk because no harm comes to the cow directly, a calf has to be slaughtered to obtain rennet. Some people argue that because it is a by-product, it is ok - a bit like leather (I think!). Curds and whey are produced from milk and although the most common way to get them to separate is to use rennet, you can get vegetarian rennet to do the same job. Therefore, it is possible to get vegetarian cheese and Masterfoods would be more than able to revert back to producing vegetarian confectionary by using vegetarian rennet. Ooh this one has got me soooo wound up! Britain is still very slow on accomodating vegetarians. I have distant relatives in Seattle who are vegan and they tell me that they have numerous choices of completely vegan restaurants. I don't know of a single one in the whole of the uk which is entirely vegan! (Maybe that should be my next venture!) Claire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 In a message dated 5/17/2007 9:23:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, abbey_road3012 writes: Another thing- is *all* whey made the same way? I knew it was a dairy product, but since we're not vegan we haven't been avoiding it. There are several wonderful vegan candy bars on the market. You might want to explore those varieties. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Wow, that's really informative. Thanks! It is really quite terrible that they would switch when they've been making all this stuff without out it for this long. Seems like a load of bunk they'd just switch for overall quality when they weren't using it in the first place. Grrr. I hate when companies change stuff like this for this goofy reasons. It's why I *still* read lables of stuff that we buy that has always been ok, because you never know when they will decide to put something new in it (we used to get one brand of bread that was vegan by 'accident' and they started putting calcium caseinate in it, which was showing reactions in our son - took us a little while to link it to the bread, but it's the reason why I read labels every single time - even if I *know* it is ok...bleah Missie On 5/16/07, Claire <ccteam42 wrote: > > The problem with rennet is that it is made from the lining of calves > stomachs. So whereas vegetarians are happy to consume milk because no > harm comes to the cow directly, a calf has to be slaughtered to obtain > rennet. Some people argue that because it is a by-product, it is ok - a > bit like leather (I think!). Curds and whey are produced from milk and > although the most common way to get them to separate is to use rennet, > you can get vegetarian rennet to do the same job. Therefore, it is > possible to get vegetarian cheese and Masterfoods would be more than > able to revert back to producing vegetarian confectionary by using > vegetarian rennet. > > Ooh this one has got me soooo wound up! > > Britain is still very slow on accomodating vegetarians. I have distant > relatives in Seattle who are vegan and they tell me that they have > numerous choices of completely vegan restaurants. I don't know of a > single one in the whole of the uk which is entirely vegan! (Maybe that > should be my next venture!) > > Claire > > > -- -- I'm all out of bubblegum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 yeah - they say " quality " which gives the impression of making an improvement but really mean lower the quality to improve the uniformity of the product. Crazy. We don't eat Mars bars anyway but I do think if enough people were informed and stopped buying their products it could make an impact. Renee Missie Ward <mszzzi wrote: Wow, that's really informative. Thanks! It is really quite terrible that they would switch when they've been making all this stuff without out it for this long. Seems like a load of bunk they'd just switch for overall quality when they weren't using it in the first place. Grrr. I hate when companies change stuff like this for this goofy reasons. It's why I *still* read lables of stuff that we buy that has always been ok, because you never know when they will decide to put something new in it (we used to get one brand of bread that was vegan by 'accident' and they started putting calcium caseinate in it, which was showing reactions in our son - took us a little while to link it to the bread, but it's the reason why I read labels every single time - even if I *know* it is ok...bleah Missie On 5/16/07, Claire <ccteam42 wrote: > > The problem with rennet is that it is made from the lining of calves > stomachs. So whereas vegetarians are happy to consume milk because no > harm comes to the cow directly, a calf has to be slaughtered to obtain > rennet. Some people argue that because it is a by-product, it is ok - a > bit like leather (I think!). Curds and whey are produced from milk and > although the most common way to get them to separate is to use rennet, > you can get vegetarian rennet to do the same job. Therefore, it is > possible to get vegetarian cheese and Masterfoods would be more than > able to revert back to producing vegetarian confectionary by using > vegetarian rennet. > > Ooh this one has got me soooo wound up! > > Britain is still very slow on accomodating vegetarians. I have distant > relatives in Seattle who are vegan and they tell me that they have > numerous choices of completely vegan restaurants. I don't know of a > single one in the whole of the uk which is entirely vegan! (Maybe that > should be my next venture!) > > Claire > > > -- -- I'm all out of bubblegum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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