Guest guest Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Hello all, I know I'm thinking way far ahead (as I'm pregnant with my first child) but a conversation between my veggie husband and I led me to want everyone's opinion. We will be raising our child vegetarian, but what if they say they want to eat meat when they're old enough to say so? My husband brought this up and at first I got really mad and said once the child leaves our house they can do what they want, but how can you stop a child who hangs out with other meat eaters from eating meat? I was just wondering if any of you have children that went from being raised vegetarian to eating meat when they were older and how you handled it. Tonia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 My daughter is still young and vegetarian, but I try to tell her often that it is her choice and she will have to make that decision. I also try to make sure she knows why we are vegarian and reenforce that as often as I can. I hope she will continue with my values, but I will love her no matter what. I will however, not prepare her meat at home. If she chooses to eat it outside of the house when with friends so be it. vegton <vegton wrote: Hello all, I know I'm thinking way far ahead (as I'm pregnant with my first child) but a conversation between my veggie husband and I led me to want everyone's opinion. We will be raising our child vegetarian, but what if they say they want to eat meat when they're old enough to say so? My husband brought this up and at first I got really mad and said once the child leaves our house they can do what they want, but how can you stop a child who hangs out with other meat eaters from eating meat? I was just wondering if any of you have children that went from being raised vegetarian to eating meat when they were older and how you handled it. Tonia Laura Ballinger Morales oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 My son just turned 4, he's been raised as a vegetarian, we've been vegan for nearly a year. He's only recently started to notice, and on his own, as we don't really talk about it, unless he asks, if that makes sense. He's asked 'what is beef?' so we told him. He kind of gets a weird look on his face like 'OMGWHAT' He has said totally unprompted that it was gross (for others to eat meat). He jokingly says he is going to eat chickens and he chases bunnies out of our yard telling them he will eat them. It's more because we've laughed at him for saying so than any other thing. The only thing we've really drilled into him was he totally has to never eat dairy (he has a casien allergy, and spans things made from milk like lactic acid and other chemicals and such that come from it, it's tricky, but less so since going vegan). We know he will have a reaction and he knows when he feels bad from eating it (physically and behaviorally) and he doesn't like it, either. As far as all this goes, he has asked what other folks are eating, and we really just say they are eating x, we don't eat animals or anything that comes from animals. He is only interested in it because he doesn't know what that stuff is, not that he wants to eat it for real. I'm sure once he's not with us, it might be something different, but so far we've not had any issues. I'm sure when he's out as a pre-teen or as a teen on his own with friends it is his choice when he's there without us. I don't know that he would try it, but I'm sure he might out of curiosity (unless his current stance on it stays). We'll just be sure he knows to at least (hopefully) read the labels on some stuff, since his allergy does seem to escalate since he doesn't have any in our diets at all. Sure going out/etc there could be something that slips past us, because we're not preparing foods and relying on others to let us know if there's dairy in something. So I'm hoping that the allergy stuff might help him make the right choice. LOL. Missie On 7/17/07, vegton <vegton wrote: > > Hello all, > > I know I'm thinking way far ahead (as I'm pregnant with my first > child) but a conversation between my veggie husband and I led me to > want everyone's opinion. > > We will be raising our child vegetarian, but what if they say they > want to eat meat when they're old enough to say so? My husband > brought this up and at first I got really mad and said once the child > leaves our house they can do what they want, but how can you stop a > child who hangs out with other meat eaters from eating meat? > > I was just wondering if any of you have children that went from being > raised vegetarian to eating meat when they were older and how you > handled it. > > Tonia > > > -- http://mszzzi.zoomshare.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/mszzzi/ ~~~~~(m-.-)m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Hello, My own kids are too young to really have much of their own opinion yet, but I have watch a number of other kids in other vegetarian families. Some kids do want to eat meat when they get older. In that case, you will have to have some sort of response. However, other kids are very pleased to be vegetarian as they get older, and sometimes are better vegetarian advocates than their parents. My advice is not too worry about it too much. It may never be an issue. However, it would be good to work it out with your husband so you can have a unified opinion if your child does express a desire to eat meat. My husband and I are both vegetarians. We have not discussed this much, but we do not allow meat in our house. Right now my (almost) 5 year old is very proud to be vegetarian. My three year old does not seem to really understand the issue yet. If either wish to eat meat as they get older, I think I will tell them they cannot do so until they are on their own. (Of course, they may break that rule, but it would still be a rule.) I suspect that we will not allow them to have meat in the house, as that is a house rule for everyone. -Sharon At 2:29 PM +0000 7/17/07, vegton wrote: >Hello all, > >I know I'm thinking way far ahead (as I'm pregnant with my first >child) but a conversation between my veggie husband and I led me to >want everyone's opinion. > >We will be raising our child vegetarian, but what if they say they >want to eat meat when they're old enough to say so? My husband >brought this up and at first I got really mad and said once the child >leaves our house they can do what they want, but how can you stop a >child who hangs out with other meat eaters from eating meat? > >I was just wondering if any of you have children that went from being >raised vegetarian to eating meat when they were older and how you >handled it. > >Tonia > > > >For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG >website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful >for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion >list and is not intended to provide personal medical advice. Medical >advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. > >edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified >health professional. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 I think that kids really need to be trained that eating animals is 'normal' and not eating animals is 'abnormal' in order to want to eat meat. Most little kids find the idea of eating animals gross. I think that if you raise your kids to think of not eating animals as the norm then they will be fine. I did have an adult tell me once about sneaking and eating meat when they were a kid. But this person went to boarding school so the parents weren't really 'raising' him to be vegetarian - they were letting someone else do it. JMHO Renee vegton <vegton wrote: Hello all, I know I'm thinking way far ahead (as I'm pregnant with my first child) but a conversation between my veggie husband and I led me to want everyone's opinion. We will be raising our child vegetarian, but what if they say they want to eat meat when they're old enough to say so? My husband brought this up and at first I got really mad and said once the child leaves our house they can do what they want, but how can you stop a child who hangs out with other meat eaters from eating meat? I was just wondering if any of you have children that went from being raised vegetarian to eating meat when they were older and how you handled it. Tonia Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 If you bring them up veggie, they will likely stay that way. They may stray for a while when they are in college ( or that age) . But they may not. They won't have the taste for it. Its like kids who grow up never eating veggies turn out to be adults who won't eat them either. All my kids eat veggies the minute they are off the breast. We have always been a high veggie family, but we just made the switch to meatless. ( were lacto ovo). My older kids balked a little but since each one of them has a different animal they don't like to eat they got over it fast. With our infants at about 8 months they start nanners and potatoes, then some carrots or sweet taters, then greenbeans etc. As long as its cooked soft and finely cut they can even eat broccoli as finger foods. Even Limas, whites, blacks, turtle beans ( cooked well) and nut butters. IN short.. get them familiar with these things in the under 2 age and they won't balk about different flavors etc. They are used to diversity. I cringe each time I hear a mom say " Little Russel won't eat anything green " .. I usually think its cause mom never either A. introduced green foods, or B never said no to anything or C. simply did not try a second time. I may be a meany.. but our kids eat whats on the table or they don't snack. I don't have any picky eaters. I have some with smaller appetites.. but no pickies.. well except my eldest.. who does not like Brussels. But know what.. I did not give them to her till she was about 5. I am much wiser now with my 6th child than I was my first two. I may not have a popular opinion, but as far as when they are with their friends.. I still don't think they have the option. It all depends on how strong your veggie beliefs are. Do you think meat is poisoned by antibiotics etc ? Do you think eating animals is bad for the environment? ( these are hypothetical) Is it any less poisonous when you eat it with friends? Is it any less bad for the environment when its eaten with friends? Is it any more healthy for you if its eaten with friends? ( I am just guessing at your reasons, these are hypothetical.. What ever your reasons are I respect them.) Secondly do you want them to hang out with people who would not accept them or be tolerant of their eating habits? My Hubby grew up with a young man who went Vegan ( completely). Sure.. they poked fun of him now and then.. but they loved and accepted him. We always made sure that there were things he could eat when we had a wedding or get together. I personally think it would be confusing to kids to grow up with two sets of rules. One for with friends, and on for at home. BUT this is only my opinion and my way of looking at it. Steph " We all want progress, but if you're on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; in that case, the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive. " C.S. Lewis On Behalf Of vegton Tuesday, July 17, 2007 10:30 AM kids who don't want to be vegetarian Hello all, I know I'm thinking way far ahead (as I'm pregnant with my first child) but a conversation between my veggie husband and I led me to want everyone's opinion. We will be raising our child vegetarian, but what if they say they want to eat meat when they're old enough to say so? My husband brought this up and at first I got really mad and said once the child leaves our house they can do what they want, but how can you stop a child who hangs out with other meat eaters from eating meat? I was just wondering if any of you have children that went from being raised vegetarian to eating meat when they were older and how you handled it. Tonia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 I once had a friend ask me “ When your children ask to try meat, you’ll take them to burger king to try some chicken nuggets won’t you?” This cleared any doubt for me. The idea that children should be aloud to try meat otherwise that child is deprived of a right, really bothered me. Like I should go out of my way, spend my money on making sure my child try any junk food he’s never had despite whether or not I agree with it. All Parents try to make all the best choices they can for their children and teach their children to make good choices. I am also a non-smoker and raising my children as non-smokers. I believe eating meat and smoking are both bad for your body. Not eating meat is a family value just as not smoking would be. There is nothing wrong with enforcing your family values in your household. I don’t allow either in my home. They may not always be vegetarians or none smokers but I hope so. Alaina Hickman On Jul 17, 2007, at 11:16 AM, Laura Ballinger Morales wrote: > My daughter is still young and vegetarian, but I try to tell her > often that it is her choice and she will have to make that > decision. I also try to make sure she knows why we are vegarian and > reenforce that as often as I can. I hope she will continue with my > values, but I will love her no matter what. I will however, not > prepare her meat at home. If she chooses to eat it outside of the > house when with friends so be it. > > vegton <vegton wrote: Hello all, > > I know I'm thinking way far ahead (as I'm pregnant with my first > child) but a conversation between my veggie husband and I led me to > want everyone's opinion. > > We will be raising our child vegetarian, but what if they say they > want to eat meat when they're old enough to say so? My husband > brought this up and at first I got really mad and said once the child > leaves our house they can do what they want, but how can you stop a > child who hangs out with other meat eaters from eating meat? > > I was just wondering if any of you have children that went from being > raised vegetarian to eating meat when they were older and how you > handled it. > > Tonia > > Laura Ballinger Morales > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not > web links. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Hello, I'm new to the list and I haven't really had a lot of time to interact, etc. My daughter, Ava, is 18 months old now and she and I are the only ones in our family that do not eat meat. I have said that when she is old enough that she can make her own decision--and I'm sure there will be things that she will want to rebel against--I'm just hoping to show her the logical way of looking at this issue. (I mean--who's idea was it to start eating decaying flesh?) I agree with the comment to educate children that it is not normal to eat meat and that it is normal to be vegetarian/vegan. Daycare has been frustrating but they are retired and older and don't 'get it.' And serve hot dogs to the kids--and say that Ava wanted one today--so I just brought veggie dogs for her to have in the future--as we supply her food. They do know that she will be pulled if they do not abide by my wishes on this--and they love having her there and are so kind to her--so I've taken the time to educate them. My personal strategy is to have her 'know' the animals. She loves animals. We have two Hampshire pigs and four potbellied pigs that are members of the family. We wouldn't eat grandpa or daddy and we won't be eating Keagan or Sebastian or any of the dogs--that's just gross. As she gets older I want her to get to know other individual animals--cows, chickens, turkeys, etc. If she learns that a hamburger is a cow like so and so (we don't know any cows right now and she hasn't been to Peaceful Prairie yet, then I think it will be easier for her to make her mind up when she is older and out with friends. I know I never did a lot of things that the other kids did in jr high or high school because I had other interests than just partying. I hope that she feels sorry for people who don't understand how wonderful 'farm' animals are--because each one has so much personality. That's my take and we'll see--in the end I hope I will have been a good teacher and parent. It is good to be different! I'll let you know in a few years, Laura, Ava, Keagan, Sebastian, Winston, Mia, Reece, Brody, and Winnie (forever in our hearts) vegton <vegton wrote: Hello all, I know I'm thinking way far ahead (as I'm pregnant with my first child) but a conversation between my veggie husband and I led me to want everyone's opinion. We will be raising our child vegetarian, but what if they say they want to eat meat when they're old enough to say so? My husband brought this up and at first I got really mad and said once the child leaves our house they can do what they want, but how can you stop a child who hangs out with other meat eaters from eating meat? I was just wondering if any of you have children that went from being raised vegetarian to eating meat when they were older and how you handled it. Tonia May I live simply that others may simply live ~ Gandhi By practicing reverence for life we become good, deep, and alive. ~ Albert Schweitzer We know truth, not only by reason, but also by heart. ~ Blaise Pascal Re-examine all you have been told...Dismiss what insults your Soul. ~ Walt Whitman Get the toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 They may not like the texture or the taste of meat if they are exposed as teenagers. I know my niece and my gf Ellen don't eat any meat because of those reasons as well as the ethical ones. Plus also you can tell the difference between pregnancy diets between my 2 nieces, the oldest one was veggie and the youngest was on meat, and the oldest one will rarely touch meat while the youngest one will and won't touch any grains or dairy. Jackie K. Proud Mom to Tatiana 04-26-04 ---- Find out how you can get spam free email. http://www.bluebottle.com/tag/3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Hi, I'll offer my perspective if no one will lynch me please. :-) For a different point of view, my kids were not initially vegetarian but when they found out where meat comes from, they chose to be vegetarian, and the mature age of 5. They stick by it as much as possible (of course day care is a problem, like others have mentioned). They *loved* green beans, carrots, broccoli, until a couple years ago. I don't know what happened. They also didn't like french fries until then, or hamburgers (this was before becoming vegetarian). They did however love Indian, Mexican, Greek, Italian... all sorts of food that surprised most people - but they didn't crave hamburgers and french fries. As far as I know they've never tasted soda pop. I don't know, if vegetarian kids chose to eat meat, wouldn't it upset their stomach so they wouldn't like it? I mean, unless it was introduced gradually or something. I wouldn't stress too much about it, eventually they are going to do whatever they want anyway. The best we can do is teach them as well as we can while we still have some influence, and just hope they learn from us to make wise choices, even if those choices differ from ours. On Jul 17, 2007, at 1:12 PM, RnScarlson wrote: > If you bring them up veggie, they will likely stay that way. They may > stray for a while when they are in college ( or that age) . But > they may > not. They won't have the taste for it. Its like kids who grow up never > eating veggies turn out to be adults who won't eat them either. All my > kids eat veggies the minute they are off the breast. We have always > been a high veggie family, but we just made the switch to meatless. ( > were lacto ovo). My older kids balked a little but since each one of > them has a different animal they don't like to eat they got over it > fast. With our infants at about 8 months they start nanners and > potatoes, then some carrots or sweet taters, then greenbeans etc. As > long as its cooked soft and finely cut they can even eat broccoli as > finger foods. Even Limas, whites, blacks, turtle beans ( cooked well) > and nut butters. IN short.. get them familiar with these things in the > under 2 age and they won't balk about different flavors etc. They are > used to diversity. I cringe each time I hear a mom say " Little Russel > won't eat anything green " .. I usually think its cause mom never > either > A. introduced green foods, or B never said no to anything or C. simply > did not try a second time. I may be a meany.. but our kids eat > whats on > the table or they don't snack. I don't have any picky eaters. I have > some with smaller appetites.. but no pickies.. well except my eldest.. > who does not like Brussels. But know what.. I did not give them to her > till she was about 5. I am much wiser now with my 6th child than I was > my first two. > > I may not have a popular opinion, but as far as when they are with > their > friends.. I still don't think they have the option. It all depends on > how strong your veggie beliefs are. Do you think meat is poisoned by > antibiotics etc ? Do you think eating animals is bad for the > environment? ( these are hypothetical) Is it any less poisonous > when you > eat it with friends? Is it any less bad for the environment when its > eaten with friends? Is it any more healthy for you if its eaten with > friends? ( I am just guessing at your reasons, these are > hypothetical.. > What ever your reasons are I respect them.) > > Secondly do you want them to hang out with people who would not accept > them or be tolerant of their eating habits? My Hubby grew up with a > young man who went Vegan ( completely). Sure.. they poked fun of > him now > and then.. but they loved and accepted him. We always made sure that > there were things he could eat when we had a wedding or get together. > > I personally think it would be confusing to kids to grow up with two > sets of rules. One for with friends, and on for at home. BUT this is > only my opinion and my way of looking at it. > > Steph > > > > " We all want progress, but if you're on the wrong road, progress means > doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; in that case, > the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive. " > C.S. Lewis > > > > On > Behalf Of vegton > Tuesday, July 17, 2007 10:30 AM > > kids who don't want to be vegetarian > > Hello all, > > I know I'm thinking way far ahead (as I'm pregnant with my first > child) but a conversation between my veggie husband and I led me to > want everyone's opinion. > > We will be raising our child vegetarian, but what if they say they > want to eat meat when they're old enough to say so? My husband > brought this up and at first I got really mad and said once the child > leaves our house they can do what they want, but how can you stop a > child who hangs out with other meat eaters from eating meat? > > I was just wondering if any of you have children that went from being > raised vegetarian to eating meat when they were older and how you > handled it. > > Tonia > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 Tonia, I struggle with the same question as I have been vegan for 20 years and have a 4 ½ year old son. My husband and I decided to educate our son through coloring books and reading (at a child’s level) about the benefits of vegetarianism. We also have fun kitchen projects where we experiment with different foods and we are enrolling him at a school where many of his friends will have similar eating habits and experiences. We both have decided that if he wants to eat meat, it is his choice, as our parents both let us pursue our own choices (we came from meat and potatoes hunting families on the east coast). We will not cook the food, but will go shopping with him for his own pan and ensure that if he does eat meat it is free range or nitrate/ nitrite free so that he at least is well educated and making healthier choices. We hope our son does not make that decision, but we do feel that as he becomes a young adult we cannot control him, we have to trust his judgment… the tighter you hold on…. Paige _____ On Behalf Of vegton Tuesday, July 17, 2007 7:30 AM kids who don't want to be vegetarian Hello all, I know I'm thinking way far ahead (as I'm pregnant with my first child) but a conversation between my veggie husband and I led me to want everyone's opinion. We will be raising our child vegetarian, but what if they say they want to eat meat when they're old enough to say so? My husband brought this up and at first I got really mad and said once the child leaves our house they can do what they want, but how can you stop a child who hangs out with other meat eaters from eating meat? I was just wondering if any of you have children that went from being raised vegetarian to eating meat when they were older and how you handled it. Tonia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 Hello All, My husband and I are vegan, and our two sons, 12 and 9, are lifetime vegans. I feel the question of kids wanting to be vegs or not is very simple. As parents we teach our kids what we feel is right. If the parents have the conviction that being veg is right, it doesn't matter what the rest of the world does. And when they're older and independent, of course it will be up to them. Now, I feel strongly about making a lifestyle, that is definitely a challenge, as easy as possible for them. Before a birthday party, I make them a really great vegan chocolate cake, and let'm eat as much as they want, or I take it to the party. Anything they see that looks good, that the other kids have, I make a big effort to come up with a great vegan version. (Living in Brazil, this is a bigger challenge--no nutritional yeast, no vegan cheeses, etc.) Very little soda at home, only rarely, but at restaurants or parties, they can have some. On healthy food, we make occasional exceptions, but on being vegan, which is a matter of an ethical nature, there are no exceptions. What do you all think? Warm regards from the tropics, Lynnea Paige <gosstucker wrote: Tonia, I struggle with the same question as I have been vegan for 20 years and have a 4 ½ year old son. My husband and I decided to educate our son through coloring books and reading (at a child’s level) about the benefits of vegetarianism. We also have fun kitchen projects where we experiment with different foods and we are enrolling him at a school where many of his friends will have similar eating habits and experiences. We both have decided that if he wants to eat meat, it is his choice, as our parents both let us pursue our own choices (we came from meat and potatoes hunting families on the east coast). We will not cook the food, but will go shopping with him for his own pan and ensure that if he does eat meat it is free range or nitrate/ nitrite free so that he at least is well educated and making healthier choices. We hope our son does not make that decision, but we do feel that as he becomes a young adult we cannot control him, we have to trust his judgment… the tighter you hold on…. Paige _____ On Behalf Of vegton Tuesday, July 17, 2007 7:30 AM kids who don't want to be vegetarian Hello all, I know I'm thinking way far ahead (as I'm pregnant with my first child) but a conversation between my veggie husband and I led me to want everyone's opinion. We will be raising our child vegetarian, but what if they say they want to eat meat when they're old enough to say so? My husband brought this up and at first I got really mad and said once the child leaves our house they can do what they want, but how can you stop a child who hangs out with other meat eaters from eating meat? I was just wondering if any of you have children that went from being raised vegetarian to eating meat when they were older and how you handled it. Tonia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Re: kids who don't want to be vegetarian I think kids only minimally connect with the health issues and maybe only a little bit more with the environmental issues- since both can be fairly abstract and overwhelming to a child. But if animals (wild, farmed, and domesticated pets) are a part of their lives, that bond of compassion is very hard to break as they age and are confronted with contradictory messages and impulses in their teen years. Exposing children to rescued farm animals at a sanctuary where they can spend time to see them as individual spirits enjoying life, is probably the most important thing we can do as veg parents if we want our veg values to carry on imho. I think it's also important not to use euphymisms to describe animal food products when raising veg children. Beef is cow flesh or cow meat or dead cow. Our son (age 10) is old enough now to understand that when we are privately talking he can use whatever term he wants. He also understands that he can be sensitive to meat eating family and friends by saying cow meat (instead of dead cow or cow flesh) without buying into " hiding the animals " with words. Peace, Danita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Hey, I feel the same way about the words that are used to " mask " what their " food " really is. I haven't used the b-word in forever... It's " cow carcass " to us. Or something else that's very descriptive. Ask somebody if they like to eat beef and that's one thing... ask them if they'd like to eat the ground up remains of a cow and all of a sudden the same " food " seems nasty. Hehehe, evil vegetarian! danitamark wrote: Re: kids who don't want to be vegetarian I think kids only minimally connect with the health issues and maybe only a little bit more with the environmental issues- since both can be fairly abstract and overwhelming to a child. But if animals (wild, farmed, and domesticated pets) are a part of their lives, that bond of compassion is very hard to break as they age and are confronted with contradictory messages and impulses in their teen years. Exposing children to rescued farm animals at a sanctuary where they can spend time to see them as individual spirits enjoying life, is probably the most important thing we can do as veg parents if we want our veg values to carry on imho. I think it's also important not to use euphymisms to describe animal food products when raising veg children. Beef is cow flesh or cow meat or dead cow. Our son (age 10) is old enough now to understand that when we are privately talking he can use whatever term he wants. He also understands that he can be sensitive to meat eating family and friends by saying cow meat (instead of dead cow or cow flesh) without buying into " hiding the animals " with words. Peace, Danita Kadee Sedtal " When you die, if you get a choice between going to regular heaven or pie heaven, choose pie heaven. It might be a trick, but if it's not, mmmmmmmm, boy. " -Jack Handey Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel and lay it on us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 I think that is a great sentiment. Has anyone been to or heard of the gentle barn? I have not, but it looks like a great place to not only teach compassion for animals, but other individuals as well. http://www.gentlebarn.org/ _____ On Behalf Of danitamark Thursday, July 19, 2007 7:49 AM [Norton AntiSpam] Re: kids who don't want to be vegetarian Re: kids who don't want to be vegetarian I think kids only minimally connect with the health issues and maybe only a little bit more with the environmental issues- since both can be fairly abstract and overwhelming to a child. But if animals (wild, farmed, and domesticated pets) are a part of their lives, that bond of compassion is very hard to break as they age and are confronted with contradictory messages and impulses in their teen years. Exposing children to rescued farm animals at a sanctuary where they can spend time to see them as individual spirits enjoying life, is probably the most important thing we can do as veg parents if we want our veg values to carry on imho. I think it's also important not to use euphymisms to describe animal food products when raising veg children. Beef is cow flesh or cow meat or dead cow. Our son (age 10) is old enough now to understand that when we are privately talking he can use whatever term he wants. He also understands that he can be sensitive to meat eating family and friends by saying cow meat (instead of dead cow or cow flesh) without buying into " hiding the animals " with words. Peace, Danita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Everyone forgot to mention " tuna salad " using garbanzo beans instead of tuna for lunch. Mash the beans with celery, onion, sweet pickle relish, egg (if you eat it) and mayonnaise (if you eat it), salt and pepper and dill if you wish. Mix well and serve on whole wheat bread with tomato and lettuce. Sometimes I use yoghurt instead of the mayo...that is good too. Diana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Oh.. that sounds good. Thanks for posting that. Steph " We all want progress, but if you're on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; in that case, the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive. " C.S. Lewis On Behalf Of Diana Platt Friday, July 20, 2007 1:35 PM Re:kids who don't want to be vegetarian Everyone forgot to mention " tuna salad " using garbanzo beans instead of tuna for lunch. Mash the beans with celery, onion, sweet pickle relish, egg (if you eat it) and mayonnaise (if you eat it), salt and pepper and dill if you wish. Mix well and serve on whole wheat bread with tomato and lettuce. Sometimes I use yoghurt instead of the mayo...that is good too. Diana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 " Exposing children to rescued farm animals at a sanctuary where they can spend time to see them as individual spirits enjoying life, is probably the most important thing we can do as veg parents if we want our veg values to carry on imho. " Does anyone know of a Sanctuary like this in Florida? ... Danielle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 There are a couple I've found: http://www.seabirdsanctuary.org/index.htm There is also one, that I can't think of the name, it's in Clearwater, FL. Off of US19N. (the entrance is not, though, it's down a diff. street Maybe N. Curlew road ? There's been a lot of developement down there so I'm nto familiar with it anymore. There is also this place: http://www.suncoastprimate.org/ It was pretty hideous for a while, shut down, and now reopened and seems much better than when I was growing up down there. It's in Palm Harbor. I found this listing: http://www.greenpeople.org/sanctuary.htm Scroll down and there's a few listed there. On 7/20/07, Danielle <daniellej wrote: > > " Exposing children to rescued farm animals at a sanctuary where they can > spend time to see them as individual spirits enjoying life, is probably the > most important thing we can do as veg parents if we want our veg values to > carry on imho. " > > Does anyone know of a Sanctuary like this in Florida? > > ... Danielle > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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