Guest guest Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Okay, My husband has been vegan for five years now and all of the sudden he is talking about starting to eat fish. He thinks that he is not getting enough omega-3s (although we do eat flax oil and sometimes flax seeds). He is convinced that his brain is not focusing as well as it used to and that his memory is not as good and that it is a result of a deficiency in fatty acids. I need some scientific backup (studies or articles) to help convince him that he doesn't NEED fish. He also got upset when I mentioned that if he did start eating fish that it wouldn't be in the house (we've always had a strict policy against any meat in the house). Anyway, he is very skeptical of on- line info, so it needs to be something concrete. Thanks. Rachael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Tell him to try ginkgo biloba supplements. Seriously, that stuff will help with mental focus BIG TIME. I have tinnitus (ringing in the ears) and I started taking ginkgo to help with that. In addition to making a huge difference with that, it helped a lot with my focus and memory. A lack of EFAs isn't the only thing that can make a person lose focus easily. Age, stress, and even boredom can all be factors. If he insists on getting more EFAs, have him try hemp oil. It has even more than fish!! Plus hemp is easy to grow organically so most hemp is organic, and there's no mercury or other chemical ickies that are often in fish. But do have him try the ginkgo. It's good stuff. I only take half the recommended dose and it still helps tremendously. smartgirl27us <thesmartfamily3 wrote: Okay, My husband has been vegan for five years now and all of the sudden he is talking about starting to eat fish. He thinks that he is not getting enough omega-3s (although we do eat flax oil and sometimes flax seeds). He is convinced that his brain is not focusing as well as it used to and that his memory is not as good and that it is a result of a deficiency in fatty acids. I need some scientific backup (studies or articles) to help convince him that he doesn't NEED fish. He also got upset when I mentioned that if he did start eating fish that it wouldn't be in the house (we've always had a strict policy against any meat in the house). Anyway, he is very skeptical of on- line info, so it needs to be something concrete. Thanks. Rachael Kadee Sedtal " When you die, if you get a choice between going to regular heaven or pie heaven, choose pie heaven. It might be a trick, but if it's not, mmmmmmmm, boy. " -Jack Handey Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 There are all kinds of reports about mercury and PCBs, PCBDs, etc in fish that you should be able to find from sites like the EPA, FDA etc or write and ask for hard copies if you need to. Any nutritional benefit from fatty acid is completely negated by all the poison in our waters. (Now that is a matter of personal opinion because organizations like the FDA have to say that it is okay to eat fish in small amounts and that the benefits outway the risk - so it is my opinion that they don't). Where I used to work I would get reports all the time about fish contamination and I used to read those reports & I'd think well if you're stupid enough to eat fish then you deserve mercury poisoning (or PCBD poison or whatever). Please don't anybody flame me -- I know that is the wrong attitude - we should think the water ought to not be dirty. But you have to control what you have the power to control - don't eat the fish. Renee smartgirl27us <thesmartfamily3 wrote: Okay, My husband has been vegan for five years now and all of the sudden he is talking about starting to eat fish. He thinks that he is not getting enough omega-3s (although we do eat flax oil and sometimes flax seeds). He is convinced that his brain is not focusing as well as it used to and that his memory is not as good and that it is a result of a deficiency in fatty acids. I need some scientific backup (studies or articles) to help convince him that he doesn't NEED fish. He also got upset when I mentioned that if he did start eating fish that it wouldn't be in the house (we've always had a strict policy against any meat in the house). Anyway, he is very skeptical of on- line info, so it needs to be something concrete. Thanks. Rachael Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Polychlorinated dibenzodioxins (PBCDs) not PCBDs. I always do that when I write PCBs in the same sentence. Anyway I say PBCDs to mean dioxins in general. PCBDs are what I think of when I think of dioxins. Renee Carroll <renecarol25 wrote: There are all kinds of reports about mercury and PCBs, PCBDs, etc in fish that you should be able to find from sites like the EPA, FDA etc or write and ask for hard copies if you need to. Any nutritional benefit from fatty acid is completely negated by all the poison in our waters. (Now that is a matter of personal opinion because organizations like the FDA have to say that it is okay to eat fish in small amounts and that the benefits outway the risk - so it is my opinion that they don't). Where I used to work I would get reports all the time about fish contamination and I used to read those reports & I'd think well if you're stupid enough to eat fish then you deserve mercury poisoning (or PCBD poison or whatever). Please don't anybody flame me -- I know that is the wrong attitude - we should think the water ought to not be dirty. But you have to control what you have the power to control - don't eat the fish. Renee smartgirl27us <thesmartfamily3 wrote: Okay, My husband has been vegan for five years now and all of the sudden he is talking about starting to eat fish. He thinks that he is not getting enough omega-3s (although we do eat flax oil and sometimes flax seeds). He is convinced that his brain is not focusing as well as it used to and that his memory is not as good and that it is a result of a deficiency in fatty acids. I need some scientific backup (studies or articles) to help convince him that he doesn't NEED fish. He also got upset when I mentioned that if he did start eating fish that it wouldn't be in the house (we've always had a strict policy against any meat in the house). Anyway, he is very skeptical of on- line info, so it needs to be something concrete. Thanks. Rachael Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Issue 1 of the 2007 Vegetarian Journal has an article on Omega-3s that may be helpful: http://www.vrg.org/journal/vj2007issue1/vj2007issue1.pdf John , " smartgirl27us " <thesmartfamily3 wrote: > > Okay, My husband has been vegan for five years now and all of the > sudden he is talking about starting to eat fish. He thinks that he is > not getting enough omega-3s (although we do eat flax oil and sometimes > flax seeds). He is convinced that his brain is not focusing as well > as it used to and that his memory is not as good and that it is a > result of a deficiency in fatty acids. I need some scientific backup > (studies or articles) to help convince him that he doesn't NEED fish. > He also got upset when I mentioned that if he did start eating fish > that it wouldn't be in the house (we've always had a strict policy > against any meat in the house). Anyway, he is very skeptical of on- > line info, so it needs to be something concrete. Thanks. > > Rachael > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 This is some info I found on this particular subject. I hope that it is helpful. http://www.herballoveshop.com/product.asp?PID=14332 & source=overture http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4632 http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=3006624 Mary smartgirl27us <thesmartfamily3 wrote: Okay, My husband has been vegan for five years now and all of the sudden he is talking about starting to eat fish. He thinks that he is not getting enough omega-3s (although we do eat flax oil and sometimes flax seeds). He is convinced that his brain is not focusing as well as it used to and that his memory is not as good and that it is a result of a deficiency in fatty acids. I need some scientific backup (studies or articles) to help convince him that he doesn't NEED fish. He also got upset when I mentioned that if he did start eating fish that it wouldn't be in the house (we've always had a strict policy against any meat in the house). Anyway, he is very skeptical of on- line info, so it needs to be something concrete. Thanks. Rachael myspace.com/craftylady49 http://bluejeanstuff.tripod.com/ http://jennifershipway.tripod.com/cakes/index.album/cakes?i=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 I also take Gingko Biloba and I back it 100%. I take it for circulation and dyslexia, and I swear it has helped my thought process. Mary Kadee M <abbey_road3012 wrote: Tell him to try ginkgo biloba supplements. Seriously, that stuff will help with mental focus BIG TIME. I have tinnitus (ringing in the ears) and I started taking ginkgo to help with that. In addition to making a huge difference with that, it helped a lot with my focus and memory. A lack of EFAs isn't the only thing that can make a person lose focus easily. Age, stress, and even boredom can all be factors. If he insists on getting more EFAs, have him try hemp oil. It has even more than fish!! Plus hemp is easy to grow organically so most hemp is organic, and there's no mercury or other chemical ickies that are often in fish. But do have him try the ginkgo. It's good stuff. I only take half the recommended dose and it still helps tremendously. smartgirl27us <thesmartfamily3 wrote: Okay, My husband has been vegan for five years now and all of the sudden he is talking about starting to eat fish. He thinks that he is not getting enough omega-3s (although we do eat flax oil and sometimes flax seeds). He is convinced that his brain is not focusing as well as it used to and that his memory is not as good and that it is a result of a deficiency in fatty acids. I need some scientific backup (studies or articles) to help convince him that he doesn't NEED fish. He also got upset when I mentioned that if he did start eating fish that it wouldn't be in the house (we've always had a strict policy against any meat in the house). Anyway, he is very skeptical of on- line info, so it needs to be something concrete. Thanks. Rachael Kadee Sedtal " When you die, if you get a choice between going to regular heaven or pie heaven, choose pie heaven. It might be a trick, but if it's not, mmmmmmmm, boy. " -Jack Handey Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Oh wow, I didn't know it helped with dyslexia... or circulation. It's cool stuff. Mary Wilson <wilsent wrote: I also take Gingko Biloba and I back it 100%. I take it for circulation and dyslexia, and I swear it has helped my thought process. Mary Kadee M <abbey_road3012 wrote: Tell him to try ginkgo biloba supplements. Seriously, that stuff will help with mental focus BIG TIME. I have tinnitus (ringing in the ears) and I started taking ginkgo to help with that. In addition to making a huge difference with that, it helped a lot with my focus and memory. A lack of EFAs isn't the only thing that can make a person lose focus easily. Age, stress, and even boredom can all be factors. If he insists on getting more EFAs, have him try hemp oil. It has even more than fish!! Plus hemp is easy to grow organically so most hemp is organic, and there's no mercury or other chemical ickies that are often in fish. But do have him try the ginkgo. It's good stuff. I only take half the recommended dose and it still helps tremendously. smartgirl27us <thesmartfamily3 wrote: Okay, My husband has been vegan for five years now and all of the sudden he is talking about starting to eat fish. He thinks that he is not getting enough omega-3s (although we do eat flax oil and sometimes flax seeds). He is convinced that his brain is not focusing as well as it used to and that his memory is not as good and that it is a result of a deficiency in fatty acids. I need some scientific backup (studies or articles) to help convince him that he doesn't NEED fish. He also got upset when I mentioned that if he did start eating fish that it wouldn't be in the house (we've always had a strict policy against any meat in the house). Anyway, he is very skeptical of on- line info, so it needs to be something concrete. Thanks. Rachael Kadee Sedtal " When you die, if you get a choice between going to regular heaven or pie heaven, choose pie heaven. It might be a trick, but if it's not, mmmmmmmm, boy. " -Jack Handey Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 We take a Vegan Omega-3 DHA (algae derived) supplement as an extra source of essential fatty acids. My husband & I are both vegan. Here is a link, although my husband purchases them, & I'm not sure if this is the exact place he orders them from. Hope this helps. My husband does a lot of research & this is the solution he came up with. I actually don't get monthly cramps since taking this product, although it may be a coincidence. http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/dn/omega.html Mary Wilson <wilsent wrote: I also take Gingko Biloba and I back it 100%. I take it for circulation and dyslexia, and I swear it has helped my thought process. Mary Kadee M <abbey_road3012 wrote: Tell him to try ginkgo biloba supplements. Seriously, that stuff will help with mental focus BIG TIME. I have tinnitus (ringing in the ears) and I started taking ginkgo to help with that. In addition to making a huge difference with that, it helped a lot with my focus and memory. A lack of EFAs isn't the only thing that can make a person lose focus easily. Age, stress, and even boredom can all be factors. If he insists on getting more EFAs, have him try hemp oil. It has even more than fish!! Plus hemp is easy to grow organically so most hemp is organic, and there's no mercury or other chemical ickies that are often in fish. But do have him try the ginkgo. It's good stuff. I only take half the recommended dose and it still helps tremendously. smartgirl27us <thesmartfamily3 wrote: Okay, My husband has been vegan for five years now and all of the sudden he is talking about starting to eat fish. He thinks that he is not getting enough omega-3s (although we do eat flax oil and sometimes flax seeds). He is convinced that his brain is not focusing as well as it used to and that his memory is not as good and that it is a result of a deficiency in fatty acids. I need some scientific backup (studies or articles) to help convince him that he doesn't NEED fish. He also got upset when I mentioned that if he did start eating fish that it wouldn't be in the house (we've always had a strict policy against any meat in the house). Anyway, he is very skeptical of on- line info, so it needs to be something concrete. Thanks. Rachael Kadee Sedtal " When you die, if you get a choice between going to regular heaven or pie heaven, choose pie heaven. It might be a trick, but if it's not, mmmmmmmm, boy. " -Jack Handey Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Buy him some hemp oil caps (be sure to keep them refrigerated. Unless he is going to eat sardines, he will be eating way too much mercury and other toxins. smartgirl27us <thesmartfamily3 wrote: Okay, My husband has been vegan for five years now and all of the sudden he is talking about starting to eat fish. He thinks that he is not getting enough omega-3s (although we do eat flax oil and sometimes flax seeds). He is convinced that his brain is not focusing as well as it used to and that his memory is not as good and that it is a result of a deficiency in fatty acids. I need some scientific backup (studies or articles) to help convince him that he doesn't NEED fish. He also got upset when I mentioned that if he did start eating fish that it wouldn't be in the house (we've always had a strict policy against any meat in the house). Anyway, he is very skeptical of on- line info, so it needs to be something concrete. Thanks. Rachael Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 I had my spouse taking ginko for a while. It may him really, ummm, affectionate. Kadee M <abbey_road3012 wrote: Tell him to try ginkgo biloba supplements. Seriously, that stuff will help with mental focus BIG TIME. I have tinnitus (ringing in the ears) and I started taking ginkgo to help with that. In addition to making a huge difference with that, it helped a lot with my focus and memory. A lack of EFAs isn't the only thing that can make a person lose focus easily. Age, stress, and even boredom can all be factors. If he insists on getting more EFAs, have him try hemp oil. It has even more than fish!! Plus hemp is easy to grow organically so most hemp is organic, and there's no mercury or other chemical ickies that are often in fish. But do have him try the ginkgo. It's good stuff. I only take half the recommended dose and it still helps tremendously. smartgirl27us <thesmartfamily3 wrote: Okay, My husband has been vegan for five years now and all of the sudden he is talking about starting to eat fish. He thinks that he is not getting enough omega-3s (although we do eat flax oil and sometimes flax seeds). He is convinced that his brain is not focusing as well as it used to and that his memory is not as good and that it is a result of a deficiency in fatty acids. I need some scientific backup (studies or articles) to help convince him that he doesn't NEED fish. He also got upset when I mentioned that if he did start eating fish that it wouldn't be in the house (we've always had a strict policy against any meat in the house). Anyway, he is very skeptical of on- line info, so it needs to be something concrete. Thanks. Rachael Kadee Sedtal " When you die, if you get a choice between going to regular heaven or pie heaven, choose pie heaven. It might be a trick, but if it's not, mmmmmmmm, boy. " -Jack Handey Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Well that's that, I'm going to make my husband start taking them. Hehe. robin koloms <rkoloms wrote: I had my spouse taking ginko for a while. It may him really, ummm, affectionate. Kadee M <abbey_road3012 wrote: Tell him to try ginkgo biloba supplements. Seriously, that stuff will help with mental focus BIG TIME. I have tinnitus (ringing in the ears) and I started taking ginkgo to help with that. In addition to making a huge difference with that, it helped a lot with my focus and memory. A lack of EFAs isn't the only thing that can make a person lose focus easily. Age, stress, and even boredom can all be factors. If he insists on getting more EFAs, have him try hemp oil. It has even more than fish!! Plus hemp is easy to grow organically so most hemp is organic, and there's no mercury or other chemical ickies that are often in fish. But do have him try the ginkgo. It's good stuff. I only take half the recommended dose and it still helps tremendously. smartgirl27us <thesmartfamily3 wrote: Okay, My husband has been vegan for five years now and all of the sudden he is talking about starting to eat fish. He thinks that he is not getting enough omega-3s (although we do eat flax oil and sometimes flax seeds). He is convinced that his brain is not focusing as well as it used to and that his memory is not as good and that it is a result of a deficiency in fatty acids. I need some scientific backup (studies or articles) to help convince him that he doesn't NEED fish. He also got upset when I mentioned that if he did start eating fish that it wouldn't be in the house (we've always had a strict policy against any meat in the house). Anyway, he is very skeptical of on- line info, so it needs to be something concrete. Thanks. Rachael Kadee Sedtal " When you die, if you get a choice between going to regular heaven or pie heaven, choose pie heaven. It might be a trick, but if it's not, mmmmmmmm, boy. " -Jack Handey Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 I was going to say this too - I'm dyslexic, too. I'll have to give it a shot. Missie On 7/25/07, Kadee M <abbey_road3012 wrote: > > Oh wow, I didn't know it helped with dyslexia... or circulation. It's > cool stuff. > > Mary Wilson <wilsent <wilsent%40verizon.net>> wrote: I also > take Gingko Biloba and I back it 100%. I take it for circulation and > dyslexia, and I swear it has helped my thought process. > > > Mary > > Kadee M <abbey_road3012 <abbey_road3012%40>> wrote: > Tell him to try ginkgo biloba supplements. Seriously, that stuff will help > with mental focus BIG TIME. I have tinnitus (ringing in the ears) and I > started taking ginkgo to help with that. In addition to making a huge > difference with that, it helped a lot with my focus and memory. A lack of > EFAs isn't the only thing that can make a person lose focus easily. Age, > stress, and even boredom can all be factors. If he insists on getting more > EFAs, have him try hemp oil. It has even more than fish!! Plus hemp is easy > to grow organically so most hemp is organic, and there's no mercury or other > chemical ickies that are often in fish. But do have him try the ginkgo. It's > good stuff. I only take half the recommended dose and it still helps > tremendously. > > smartgirl27us <thesmartfamily3 <thesmartfamily3%40>> > wrote: Okay, My husband has been vegan for five years now and all of the > sudden he is talking about starting to eat fish. He thinks that he is > not getting enough omega-3s (although we do eat flax oil and sometimes > flax seeds). He is convinced that his brain is not focusing as well > as it used to and that his memory is not as good and that it is a > result of a deficiency in fatty acids. I need some scientific backup > (studies or articles) to help convince him that he doesn't NEED fish. > He also got upset when I mentioned that if he did start eating fish > that it wouldn't be in the house (we've always had a strict policy > against any meat in the house). Anyway, he is very skeptical of on- > line info, so it needs to be something concrete. Thanks. > > Rachael > > Kadee Sedtal > > " When you die, if you get a choice between going to regular heaven or pie > heaven, choose pie heaven. It might be a trick, but if it's not, mmmmmmmm, > boy. " -Jack Handey > > > Got a little couch potato? > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 The Udo oil people make a vegan DHA oil, which is what is in fish. I take it but I didn't make my brain function better. What has worked for me is lecithin. I sprinkle 1 tbsp on my daily salad and another in the smoothie. Helps my memory. Christine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Is it possible he's craving something in the fish? I used to crave tuna about twice a year and TUNO would always satisfy the craving. (Worthington's) Guess it was just the flavor I missed. Now that I'm in Europe I can't get that but I've found a recipe (on this site?) for a mock tuna salad that uses garbanzo beans to replace the tuna. It works great for the texture but not at all for the flavor so I'm going to experiment with adding some Nori (the paper used for sushi) next time. Good luck, Amy Switzerland ______________________________\ ____ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545469 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 No - It's mainly a health concern for him. I just ordered some of the vegan DHA capsules off of the internet. We'll see if that satisfies him. By the way - I have that mock tuna recipe and I love it - mmmm I'll have to make some. Anyone know how long veganaise or nayonaise stays good for once the jar is open???? , Amy Merwin <amymerwin wrote: > > Is it possible he's craving something in the fish? > I used to crave tuna about twice a year and TUNO would always satisfy the craving. (Worthington's) > Guess it was just the flavor I missed. > Now that I'm in Europe I can't get that but I've found a recipe (on this site?) for a mock tuna salad that uses garbanzo beans to replace the tuna. It works great for the texture but not at all for the flavor so I'm going to experiment with adding some Nori (the paper used for sushi) next time. > Good luck, > Amy > Switzerland > > > > ___________________ _______________ > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. > http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545469 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 I had the same experience of craving fish and the algal sourced Omega Zen tablets took care of it and also helped dry skin and hair, which had been an increasing problem since going vegan more than a year. Hope they help! , " smartgirl27us " <thesmartfamily3 wrote: > > No - It's mainly a health concern for him. I just ordered some of > the vegan DHA capsules off of the internet. We'll see if that > satisfies him. By the way - I have that mock tuna recipe and I love > it - mmmm I'll have to make some. > > Anyone know how long veganaise or nayonaise stays good for once the > jar is open???? > > , Amy Merwin <amymerwin@> wrote: > > > > Is it possible he's craving something in the fish? > > I used to crave tuna about twice a year and TUNO would always > satisfy the craving. (Worthington's) > > Guess it was just the flavor I missed. > > Now that I'm in Europe I can't get that but I've found a recipe > (on this site?) for a mock tuna salad that uses garbanzo beans to > replace the tuna. It works great for the texture but not at all for > the flavor so I'm going to experiment with adding some Nori (the > paper used for sushi) next time. > > Good luck, > > Amy > > Switzerland > > > > > > > > > ___________________ > _______________ > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone > who knows. Answers - Check it out. > > http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545469 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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