Guest guest Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 My daughter is supposed to be starting daycare next week. The daycare center does not offer vegetarian meals, but said it would be o.k. for me to provide my own veggie entrees from home if I gave them a doctor's note. I was pretty happy with that because most places refused to even give me that allowance. So I called our pediatrician to ask her to write the note. She said that I need to write it, and if she agrees with what I've written, she'll sign it. Well I have no idea what to write, and she couldn't seem to give me any guidance. It's not like my daughter is allergic to meat, so what am I supposed to say that would require a doctor's signature? Has anyone else had to do this? Could you tell me what your note said? Thanks, Tia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 Honeslty....... I think it is ridiculous to have to have a doctors note to supply a veggie meal! BUT, what you can say it is for religous beliefs and leave it at that. indigogrlva <Indigo7892 Tuesday, August 28, 2007 1:06:45 PM Doctor's note for daycare meals? My daughter is supposed to be starting daycare next week. The daycare center does not offer vegetarian meals, but said it would be o.k. for me to provide my own veggie entrees from home if I gave them a doctor's note. I was pretty happy with that because most places refused to even give me that allowance. So I called our pediatrician to ask her to write the note. She said that I need to write it, and if she agrees with what I've written, she'll sign it. Well I have no idea what to write, and she couldn't seem to give me any guidance. It's not like my daughter is allergic to meat, so what am I supposed to say that would require a doctor's signature? Has anyone else had to do this? Could you tell me what your note said? Thanks, Tia <!-- #ygrp-mkp{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} #ygrp-mkp hr{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrp-mkp #hd{ color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} #ygrp-mkp #ads{ margin-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-mkp .ad{ padding:0 0;} #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} --> <!-- #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ font-family:Arial;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} --> <!-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} ..bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:upp\ ercase;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin:2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-ri\ ght:.5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-vital a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%\ ;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin:0;} o{font-size:0;} ..MsoNormal{ margin:0 0 0 0;} #ygrp-text tt{ font-size:120%;} blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} ..replbq{margin:4;} --> ______________________________\ ____ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545469 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 We went through that once. I had to leave the kids at the daycare place while I went to the doctor and they told me I needed a doctor's note. I told them I didn't need a doctor's permission to make parenting decisions, and they went with me to the doctor!! Maybe you should write a note saying you're morally opposed to eating meat, then have the doctor sign it. I don't know why they feel like a doctor's permission is needed to give a child vegetables only, and yet the standard practice is to serve up fried body parts that have been treated with antibiotics and growth hormones. Hmm. Seriously though, I'd just write something like, " My child(ren) are vegetarians, and they are not to be served any type of meat product. " I wouldn't go into why... they don't care. indigogrlva <Indigo7892 wrote: My daughter is supposed to be starting daycare next week. The daycare center does not offer vegetarian meals, but said it would be o.k. for me to provide my own veggie entrees from home if I gave them a doctor's note. I was pretty happy with that because most places refused to even give me that allowance. So I called our pediatrician to ask her to write the note. She said that I need to write it, and if she agrees with what I've written, she'll sign it. Well I have no idea what to write, and she couldn't seem to give me any guidance. It's not like my daughter is allergic to meat, so what am I supposed to say that would require a doctor's signature? Has anyone else had to do this? Could you tell me what your note said? Thanks, Tia Kadee Sedtal " When you die, if you get a choice between going to regular heaven or pie heaven, choose pie heaven. It might be a trick, but if it's not, mmmmmmmm, boy. " -Jack Handey Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 I don't have the link or exact text for you but you can google it... The American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Dietetic Association both have position papers that support vegetarian and vegan diets as healthful for children. Quote them verbatim, give websites and your Dr can look online and verify it and sign it. D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 Personally, I would make it as outrageous and memorable as possible for the sake that you want them not to overlook it. For a holiday party, when a teacher/caregiver is out and has a replacement. Definitely include something like since my child has not been given any meat products an allergic reaction may occur. This may scare them. Especially enough to remember not to give meat/meat products. I agree, what does a doctor have to do with it, but a pre-school program I had my son in a few years ago fed him meat two times. Both the teachers and the director acted like it was no big deal. When I pulled him from the school they sued me for the remaining, which I had to pay. Unbelievable! But back onto your issue, if it seems like it would be something " allergic " they would pay better attention. Like they do for all the children with peanut allergies. They don't want to create any medical issues or other liabilities for themselves. If it's just some random request, then they may think all the other parents will want to do their own thing too. If it is a program where the state is reimbursing for meals, then they made need the documentation to pass along that way. Who knows really why, but I'd make it sound as official as possible - without anything the doc won't sign. Best of luck to you! Janeen Denise Pomerantz <dmpomerantz Tuesday, August 28, 2007 4:49:00 PM Re: Doctor's note for daycare meals? Honeslty.... ... I think it is ridiculous to have to have a doctors note to supply a veggie meal! BUT, what you can say it is for religous beliefs and leave it at that. indigogrlva <Indigo7892 (AT) aol (DOT) com> @gro ups.com Tuesday, August 28, 2007 1:06:45 PM Doctor's note for daycare meals? My daughter is supposed to be starting daycare next week. The daycare center does not offer vegetarian meals, but said it would be o.k. for me to provide my own veggie entrees from home if I gave them a doctor's note. I was pretty happy with that because most places refused to even give me that allowance. So I called our pediatrician to ask her to write the note. She said that I need to write it, and if she agrees with what I've written, she'll sign it. Well I have no idea what to write, and she couldn't seem to give me any guidance. It's not like my daughter is allergic to meat, so what am I supposed to say that would require a doctor's signature? Has anyone else had to do this? Could you tell me what your note said? 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Guest guest Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 Hmm.. Due to dietary restrictions, please allow Mrs/Ms. Smith to provide her child's meals at day care? dietary restrictions is vague yet professional enough that most people then assume it's an allergy, so they don't give you as much bother- I(and I'm not going to go out of my way to correct another's assumptions). It's the phrase we use when we request refrigerators in our room on vacations, and it seems to work without an extensive explanation. - indigogrlva<Indigo7892 < > Tuesday, August 28, 2007 4:06 PM Doctor's note for daycare meals? My daughter is supposed to be starting daycare next week. The daycare center does not offer vegetarian meals, but said it would be o.k. for me to provide my own veggie entrees from home if I gave them a doctor's note. I was pretty happy with that because most places refused to even give me that allowance. So I called our pediatrician to ask her to write the note. She said that I need to write it, and if she agrees with what I've written, she'll sign it. Well I have no idea what to write, and she couldn't seem to give me any guidance. It's not like my daughter is allergic to meat, so what am I supposed to say that would require a doctor's signature? Has anyone else had to do this? Could you tell me what your note said? Thanks, Tia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 I can't believe you had to pay! I think you'd have done better suing or counter-suing them. What day care wants their name in the paper as the subject of a lawsuit -- especially when they're charged with violating express instructions left by the parent? no big deal? show them what a deal it is. _____ On Behalf Of janeen minguillo Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:57 PM Re: Doctor's note for daycare meals? ... I agree, what does a doctor have to do with it, but a pre-school program I had my son in a few years ago fed him meat two times. Both the teachers and the director acted like it was no big deal. When I pulled him from the school they sued me for the remaining, which I had to pay. .... Janeen .. <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=2074869/grpspId=1705042054/msgId=148\ 59/stime=1188399444/nc1=4776345/nc2=4840 959/nc3=4025321> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 Thanks for sharing my feelings as well. Unfortunately, the case was settled while I was having knee surgery, even after the director agreed to have the court date changed. What a nightmare. Anyway, I didn't have the physical or emotional strength to fight anything at the time. So I said a prayer for her. It was the only thing I could do without getting put in jail. Just wanted to pass the experience on, since it was so unfair. Have as much proof in writing in advance. And even after it's in writing speak individually to each teacher, so that the director doesn't forget to pass it on. And then even after speaking to the teachers, that there is no replacement who doesn't know. Even when your child tells them he's vegetarian. Wrong so many times on so many levels. Thx, Janeen Bob Crovo <bcrovo Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:13:23 AM RE: Doctor's note for daycare meals? I can't believe you had to pay! I think you'd have done better suing or counter-suing them. What day care wants their name in the paper as the subject of a lawsuit -- especially when they're charged with violating express instructions left by the parent? no big deal? show them what a deal it is. _____ @gro ups.com [@gro ups.com] On Behalf Of janeen minguillo Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:57 PM @gro ups.com Re: Doctor's note for daycare meals? .... I agree, what does a doctor have to do with it, but a pre-school program I had my son in a few years ago fed him meat two times. Both the teachers and the director acted like it was no big deal. When I pulled him from the school they sued me for the remaining, which I had to pay. .... Janeen .. <http://geo.. com/serv? s=97359714/ grpId=2074869/ grpspId=17050420 54/msgId= 14859/stime= 1188399444/ nc1=4776345/ nc2=4840 959/nc3=4025321> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 I am a lead child development teacher in a child care center. The reason we have to have a Dr.'s note on file is to get credit from USDA for meals. To get our food program monies, we have to have a Dr.'s note for all exceptions to the menu we provide. It's really that simple. There is no anti-vegetarianism or it's not a medical issue either. The doctor's signature is a formality. That's the imperfect way it works for now. The USDA needs to change it's policy to be more vegetarian " friendly " . I would say something like: " My child will be eating foods brought from home since she/he is a vegetarian and vegetarian lunches are not offered at this time " . Catherine -- Lisa Schroeder <awoogala wrote: > Hmm.. > Due to dietary restrictions, please allow Mrs/Ms. > Smith to provide her child's meals at day care? > > > dietary restrictions is vague yet professional > enough that most people then assume it's an allergy, > so they don't give you as much bother- I(and I'm not > going to go out of my way to correct another's > assumptions). It's the phrase we use when we > request refrigerators in our room on vacations, and > it seems to work without an extensive explanation. > - > indigogrlva<Indigo7892 > To: > < > > > Tuesday, August 28, 2007 4:06 PM > Doctor's note for daycare > meals? > > > My daughter is supposed to be starting daycare > next week. The daycare > center does not offer vegetarian meals, but said > it would be o.k. for > me to provide my own veggie entrees from home if I > gave them a > doctor's note. I was pretty happy with that > because most places > refused to even give me that allowance. So I > called our pediatrician > to ask her to write the note. She said that I need > to write it, and if > she agrees with what I've written, she'll sign it. > Well I have no idea > what to write, and she couldn't seem to give me > any guidance. It's not > like my daughter is allergic to meat, so what am I > supposed to say > that would require a doctor's signature? > > Has anyone else had to do this? Could you tell me > what your note said? > > Thanks, > Tia > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ______________________________\ ____ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search http://search./search?fr=oni_on_mail & p=graduation+gifts & cs=bz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 These are the main points they want to hear from you and doc: From doc: physical results have always come out positive (here you can elaborate on the last anemia test which is a BIG deal!), good weight, height, skin, hair (be creative! Mom: foods we serve at home are nutritionally balanced and vegetarian any food allergies known That's all I can think of now. We are planning on using a child care center next year for our now 18 month old and these are some of the things I remember the day care manager asked for when we met her. Best, Nancy, Proud Mamá of Carlos Gabriel Proud guardian of Roschko, Luna, Café, and Tye " Dogs are our link to paradise. They don't know evil or jealousy or discontent. To sit with a dog on a hillside on a glorious afternoon is to be back in Eden, where doing nothing was not boring: it was Peace. " - Milan Kundera " The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not made for humans any more than black people were made for whites or women for men. " Alice Walker " Animals may aid us in our everyday lives, in our dreams, meditations. Since they were created before humans, they are closer to the SOURCE and can act as allies, guides and familiars in our search for wholeness. " An Inuit woman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Thanks for all the responses. I went by the daycare center and asked exactly what the noted needed to say to be acceptable. The director made it sound like it really wasn't a big deal, just as long as it states my daughter is a vegetarian and we will be providing alternative meals. Which makes me think the whole reason for it is to get USDA reimbursement like one poster mentioned. As far as my daughter's ped not wanted to write the note...We actually normally see a nurse practitioner for our office visits (she's a vegetarian herself). But because this had to be signed by a " doctor " she wasn't able to do it, and I had to ask for someone else in the office who isn't familiar with my family. So thankfully it looks like I was getting overly worried over something that probably isn't a big deal. I really wish the daycare center had just told me it was a formality from the very beginning, rather than getting me all stressed about it. , " nanvaz_1969 " <nanvaz_1969 wrote: > > These are the main points they want to hear from you and doc: > > From doc: > physical results have always come out positive (here you can > elaborate on the last anemia test which is a BIG deal!), good weight, > height, skin, hair (be creative! > > Mom: > foods we serve at home are nutritionally balanced and vegetarian > any food allergies known > > That's all I can think of now. We are planning on using a child care > center next year for our now 18 month old and these are some of the > things I remember the day care manager asked for when we met her. > > Best, > Nancy, Proud Mamá of Carlos Gabriel > Proud guardian of Roschko, Luna, Café, and Tye > > " Dogs are our link to paradise. They don't know evil or jealousy or > discontent. > To sit with a dog on a hillside on a glorious afternoon is to be back > in Eden, where doing nothing was not boring: it was Peace. " > - Milan Kundera > > " The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not > made for humans any more than black people were made for whites or > women for men. " Alice Walker > > " Animals may aid us in our everyday lives, in our dreams, > meditations. Since they were created before humans, they are closer > to the SOURCE and can act as allies, guides and familiars in our > search for wholeness. " An Inuit woman > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 My daughter's school has something that doctors have to sign for special meals to be provided by the school (pureeing foods for exceptional children, meals to accommodate diabetic children, etc) I know they aren't going to accommodate my child being vegetarian anyway so I don't bother. And I don't fill that out because I don't think her being vegetarian is something a doctor should have to sign. I do put on all the paperwork I do sign for her not to eat school lunches ever. If they have something in class the teacher is to let me know ahead of time what will be provided and I will sign something saying it is okay to have that specific food if it is or provide alternative - Example last year her teacher had them make smiley faces with orange slices and raisins. And I said yes it is okay for her to have that. It seems a little redundant but it avoids issues where something may not be vegetarian that someone else may think is okay. Renee indigogrlva <Indigo7892 wrote: Thanks for all the responses. I went by the daycare center and asked exactly what the noted needed to say to be acceptable. The director made it sound like it really wasn't a big deal, just as long as it states my daughter is a vegetarian and we will be providing alternative meals. Which makes me think the whole reason for it is to get USDA reimbursement like one poster mentioned. As far as my daughter's ped not wanted to write the note...We actually normally see a nurse practitioner for our office visits (she's a vegetarian herself). But because this had to be signed by a " doctor " she wasn't able to do it, and I had to ask for someone else in the office who isn't familiar with my family. So thankfully it looks like I was getting overly worried over something that probably isn't a big deal. I really wish the daycare center had just told me it was a formality from the very beginning, rather than getting me all stressed about it. , " nanvaz_1969 " <nanvaz_1969 wrote: > > These are the main points they want to hear from you and doc: > > From doc: > physical results have always come out positive (here you can > elaborate on the last anemia test which is a BIG deal!), good weight, > height, skin, hair (be creative! > > Mom: > foods we serve at home are nutritionally balanced and vegetarian > any food allergies known > > That's all I can think of now. We are planning on using a child care > center next year for our now 18 month old and these are some of the > things I remember the day care manager asked for when we met her. > > Best, > Nancy, Proud Mamá of Carlos Gabriel > Proud guardian of Roschko, Luna, Café, and Tye > > " Dogs are our link to paradise. They don't know evil or jealousy or > discontent. > To sit with a dog on a hillside on a glorious afternoon is to be back > in Eden, where doing nothing was not boring: it was Peace. " > - Milan Kundera > > " The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not > made for humans any more than black people were made for whites or > women for men. " Alice Walker > > " Animals may aid us in our everyday lives, in our dreams, > meditations. Since they were created before humans, they are closer > to the SOURCE and can act as allies, guides and familiars in our > search for wholeness. " An Inuit woman > Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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