Guest guest Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 If they can do it there, we can do it here! I have a fairly lengthy newsletter, along with contact information for the US divisions of various candy companies. Please contact me offlist for more information. Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 , robin koloms <rkoloms wrote: > > If they can do it there, we can do it here! I think this is a terrible idea, to tell companies what they can and can't put into their product. I hate to sound like Rush Libbaugh or something (eek!), but c'mon, this is America! Can't we use our common sense and JUST NOT BUY IT if it has ingredients we don't approve of? BY LAW, ingredients must be listed on all food packaging. People really do need to take responsibility for themselves, not Big Brother. That's my opinion anyway... Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 At 9/20/2007, you wrote: >--- In ><%40> , >robin koloms <rkoloms wrote: > > > > If they can do it there, we can do it here! > >I think this is a terrible idea, to tell companies what they can and >can't put into their product. >I hate to sound like Rush Libbaugh or something (eek!), but c'mon, >this is America! Can't we >use our common sense and JUST NOT BUY IT if it has ingredients we >don't approve of? I don't think that it is about what we approve of - these dyes and artificial flavors are harming people that don't realize it. My son went from being on 3 heavy duty medications to none with the removal of the things he was allergic to and dyes and artificial ingredients. How many children are on drugs because of these things? Yes, I took the time and money to figure out a better solution for my son but these things are still harmful. Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Getting the word out is the way to do it. Good luck with your efforts and I'm glad your son is better. I still think that asking the government to be our nanny is a almosts always a bad idea. There are lots of alternatives to buying junky candy and I wish more parents cared enough to look into them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 The newsletter, from the Feingold Association, includes a link to a study that proves what parents have known for years: artificial additives affect the behavior of children. Patty Paolini <patty.paolini wrote: At 9/20/2007, you wrote: >--- In ><%40> , >robin koloms <rkoloms wrote: > > > > If they can do it there, we can do it here! > >I think this is a terrible idea, to tell companies what they can and >can't put into their product. >I hate to sound like Rush Libbaugh or something (eek!), but c'mon, >this is America! Can't we >use our common sense and JUST NOT BUY IT if it has ingredients we >don't approve of? I don't think that it is about what we approve of - these dyes and artificial flavors are harming people that don't realize it. My son went from being on 3 heavy duty medications to none with the removal of the things he was allergic to and dyes and artificial ingredients. How many children are on drugs because of these things? Yes, I took the time and money to figure out a better solution for my son but these things are still harmful. Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Is it wrong for the government to put warnings on cigarettes and alchohol? Is it wrong for the government to insist that we wear seatbelts in cars? Jill <jill wrote: Getting the word out is the way to do it. Good luck with your efforts and I'm glad your son is better. I still think that asking the government to be our nanny is a almosts always a bad idea. There are lots of alternatives to buying junky candy and I wish more parents cared enough to look into them. Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 , robin koloms <rkoloms wrote: > > Is it wrong for the government to put warnings on cigarettes and alchohol? Is it wrong for the government to insist that we wear seatbelts in cars? Warnings are not wrong. If you want to get philosophical about it, I'd say yes, it's wrong to require seatbelts for adults. However, I'm very much for making fools wear seatbelts because if they eject into my car, then it's my problem or when they find themselves in an ER with no insurance, I eventually pay for their foolishness. Basically, we're in political territory here and my politics are a little odd for most people, so I won't go on further, since this is about how and what we choose to feed our veggie kids. I'll just say that allowing the government to tell us what we can and cannot put into our bodies is a very slippery slope. What would you say if the government, in their infinite wisdom, decided that meat-eating is essential to your child's growth and health, and demanded that you feed him chicken " for his own good " ? Sound outrageous? I find an ingredients ban on something that won't kill you outright just as outrageous. We know that this stuff is harmful in large doses longterm, but so is red meat, cheese and butter. I'm just saying that we need to require people to use more common sense and not think that other people's stupidity can be cured by government. So get the word out, post a warning...but please don't insist on outright bans. Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 " A team of researchers at Southampton University in the UK has found that not only do hyperactive children react to artificial coloring, but ALL children do. Ordinary children from the general population are " pushed " toward the hyperactive end of the spectrum by these chemicals. " As the world's consumption of high fructose corn syrup has gone up, there has been an almost equal increase in the rate of diabetes. When fewer women took hormone replacements to relieve symptoms of menopause, the breast cancer rates dropped. Jill <jill wrote: , robin koloms <rkoloms wrote: > > Is it wrong for the government to put warnings on cigarettes and alchohol? Is it wrong for the government to insist that we wear seatbelts in cars? Warnings are not wrong. If you want to get philosophical about it, I'd say yes, it's wrong to require seatbelts for adults. However, I'm very much for making fools wear seatbelts because if they eject into my car, then it's my problem or when they find themselves in an ER with no insurance, I eventually pay for their foolishness. Basically, we're in political territory here and my politics are a little odd for most people, so I won't go on further, since this is about how and what we choose to feed our veggie kids. I'll just say that allowing the government to tell us what we can and cannot put into our bodies is a very slippery slope. What would you say if the government, in their infinite wisdom, decided that meat-eating is essential to your child's growth and health, and demanded that you feed him chicken " for his own good " ? Sound outrageous? I find an ingredients ban on something that won't kill you outright just as outrageous. We know that this stuff is harmful in large doses longterm, but so is red meat, cheese and butter. I'm just saying that we need to require people to use more common sense and not think that other people's stupidity can be cured by government. So get the word out, post a warning...but please don't insist on outright bans. Jill Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 Robin, I don't disagree at all with what you're saying--artificial coloring is crap for kids. I should know--I am a teacher and my kids bring in a snack from home every day. The kids whose parents pack them fruit gushers and the like are the off-the-wall ones while the kids that eat a pack of goldfish or fruit are relatively quiet. I'm just throwing out that there are implications when you start asking the government to intervene with every little thing. Where does that stop? Where does the government's duty to protect us end and our personal responsibility begin? I think people need to make better choices for themselves and to simply MAKE CHOICES, period. The CDC says vaccinations are no problem-o. I beg to differ, but if I go on what the gov't says is good and not good, then I've handed them my brain and freedom of choice. That's all I'm trying to point out. I don't want your kid or mine to eat chemicals. I want you and I and every other parent out there to think about what they are feeding their kids and take responsibility for it. that's all. If we don't buy it, they'll stop making it. Look at the " healthy choices " that the fast food places are starting to offer. They wouldn't have done that if people had not expressed their wants by not buying so many cheeseburgers and asking for healthier choices at the drive-through for their kids. This is a good thing and we should encourage people to vote and make changes with their wallets. Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 If we stopped buying it and they stopped making it, that would be one end. If it was banned and they stopped selling it, that would be the same end. Two different means to the same end. We could get philosophical about this, but what difference does the means make as long as the end is reached? Calmer kids would be a good thing! As a teacher, you must know that many parents are too busy, too overwhelmed with their own lives, don't care, shouldn't really be parents, whatever.... Getting the bad stuff out is good for the kids an everyone involved with them. Just my 2 cents! Tracy On Sep 22, 2007, at 11:59 AM, Jill wrote: > Robin, > I don't disagree at all with what you're saying--artificial > coloring is crap for kids. I should > know--I am a teacher and my kids bring in a snack from home every > day. The kids whose > parents pack them fruit gushers and the like are the off-the-wall > ones while the kids that eat > a pack of goldfish or fruit are relatively quiet. I'm just throwing > out that there are > implications when you start asking the government to intervene with > every little thing. Where > does that stop? Where does the government's duty to protect us end > and our personal > responsibility begin? I think people need to make better choices > for themselves and to > simply MAKE CHOICES, period. The CDC says vaccinations are no > problem-o. I beg to differ, > but if I go on what the gov't says is good and not good, then I've > handed them my brain and > freedom of choice. That's all I'm trying to point out. I don't want > your kid or mine to eat > chemicals. I want you and I and every other parent out there to > think about what they are > feeding their kids and take responsibility for it. that's all. If > we don't buy it, they'll stop > making it. Look at the " healthy choices " that the fast food places > are starting to offer. They > wouldn't have done that if people had not expressed their wants by > not buying so many > cheeseburgers and asking for healthier choices at the drive-through > for their kids. This is a > good thing and we should encourage people to vote and make changes > with their wallets. > Jill > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 I think that we, as the government, have a responsiblity to provide a safe environment for all, including children who have parents unable or unwilling to read labels. If we ban harmful ingredients, we are protecting all of our children, not just the lucky one. This won't stop the " coke in the baby bottle " - you would not believe how often I see this; but it will hopefully cut back on some of the junk kids eat. We should not be allowing manufacturers to increase the amount of pollution that can dump in our air and water; we should be making them decrease the pollutants; the same with foods... Jill <jill wrote: Robin, I don't disagree at all with what you're saying--artificial coloring is crap for kids. I should know--I am a teacher and my kids bring in a snack from home every day. The kids whose parents pack them fruit gushers and the like are the off-the-wall ones while the kids that eat a pack of goldfish or fruit are relatively quiet. I'm just throwing out that there are implications when you start asking the government to intervene with every little thing. Where does that stop? Where does the government's duty to protect us end and our personal responsibility begin? I think people need to make better choices for themselves and to simply MAKE CHOICES, period. The CDC says vaccinations are no problem-o. I beg to differ, but if I go on what the gov't says is good and not good, then I've handed them my brain and freedom of choice. That's all I'm trying to point out. I don't want your kid or mine to eat chemicals. I want you and I and every other parent out there to think about what they are feeding their kids and take responsibility for it. that's all. If we don't buy it, they'll stop making it. Look at the " healthy choices " that the fast food places are starting to offer. They wouldn't have done that if people had not expressed their wants by not buying so many cheeseburgers and asking for healthier choices at the drive-through for their kids. This is a good thing and we should encourage people to vote and make changes with their wallets. Jill Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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