conundrum...

[Guest guest]

Hi, I've been a part of this group for a few weeks now

but have yet to post. My name is Sylvia and I'm 21.

I've been a lacto-vegetarian for about five months

now.

Last week, I was put on a fat-free diet due to

gallbladder problems. I haven't " cheated, " but I'm

only managing to eat about 900 to 1000 calories a day.

I'm not starving myself, but that is all it takes to

make me feel full.

The problem is, I've actually GAINED weight since

starting this. My s.o. thinks this is because i am

eating too few calories. If I ate anymore, I'd feel as

if I were overeating. I am hoping that some of you

might have suggestions to assist me with this. Am I

doing something wrong?

 

 

 

 

" religion was created for the benefit of man, not the other way around. "

-- His Holiness the Dalai Lama

 

" all my fish are slanted and require beards. "

--Frylock

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

SyLvIa fOX wrote:

 

> Hi, I've been a part of this group for a few weeks now

> but have yet to post. My name is Sylvia and I'm 21.

> I've been a lacto-vegetarian for about five months

> now.

> Last week, I was put on a fat-free diet due to

> gallbladder problems. I haven't " cheated, " but I'm

> only managing to eat about 900 to 1000 calories a day.

> I'm not starving myself, but that is all it takes to

> make me feel full.

> The problem is, I've actually GAINED weight since

> starting this. My s.o. thinks this is because i am

> eating too few calories. If I ate anymore, I'd feel as

> if I were overeating. I am hoping that some of you

> might have suggestions to assist me with this. Am I

> doing something wrong?

 

 

Are you getting activity? Remember your body turns carbs into lipids.

Make sure all your

carbs are whole grains.

 

Completely fat free is dangerous.

 

Bob

 

>

>

> " religion was created for the benefit of man, not the other way around. "

> -- His Holiness the Dalai Lama

>

> " all my fish are slanted and require beards. "

> --Frylock

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi!

 

 

 

Be careful, i think that a normal diet is about 2000 -3000 calories, yours

can be really low for your body! May be you body is asking for a slower

diet. Also your body may be is holding liquids (water) in reaction to an

extreme change in your diet. Any way, I guess the best you can do is go to a

nutritionist, or your doctor to find out what can be the problem.

 

Sonia

 

 

 

“Se gana y se pierde,

 

se sufre y se goza,

 

se sube y se baja,

 

se nace y se muere.

 

Si la historia es tan simple,

 

¿Por qué te preocupas tanto?”

 

Facundo Cabral

 

_____

 

De:

En nombre de SyLvIa fOX

Enviado el: Viernes, 28 de Abril de 2006 10:37 a.m.

Para:

Asunto: conundrum...

 

 

 

Hi, I've been a part of this group for a few weeks now

but have yet to post. My name is Sylvia and I'm 21.

I've been a lacto-vegetarian for about five months

now.

Last week, I was put on a fat-free diet due to

gallbladder problems. I haven't " cheated, " but I'm

only managing to eat about 900 to 1000 calories a day.

I'm not starving myself, but that is all it takes to

make me feel full.

The problem is, I've actually GAINED weight since

starting this. My s.o. thinks this is because i am

eating too few calories. If I ate anymore, I'd feel as

if I were overeating. I am hoping that some of you

might have suggestions to assist me with this. Am I

doing something wrong?

 

 

 

 

" religion was created for the benefit of man, not the other way around. "

-- His Holiness the Dalai Lama

 

" all my fish are slanted and require beards. "

--Frylock

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Sonia Alexandra León O. wrote:

 

>

>

> Hi!

>

>

>

> Be careful, i think that a normal diet is about 2000 -3000 calories, yours

> can be really low for your body! May be you body is asking for a slower

> diet. Also your body may be is holding liquids (water) in reaction to an

> extreme change in your diet. Any way, I guess the best you can do is

> go to a

> nutritionist, or your doctor to find out what can be the problem.

>

> Sonia

 

Similarly, if you go to a real low calorie diet, you body adjusts and

goes into starvation mode.

It will use fewer calories. Then when you start eating more, it will

pack it on much more efficiently,

preparing for the next famine.

 

Thus, the only way around that is increase your metabolism, while eating

healthy. Weight training

is critical, as muscles increase your metabolism, and of course,

strengthen your frame, help prevent

osteoporosis, while controlling your weight.

 

 

>

>

>

> " Se gana y se pierde,

>

> se sufre y se goza,

>

> se sube y se baja,

>

> se nace y se muere.

>

> Si la historia es tan simple,

>

> ¿Por qué te preocupas tanto? "

>

> Facundo Cabral

>

> _____

>

> De:

> En nombre de SyLvIa fOX

> Enviado el: Viernes, 28 de Abril de 2006 10:37 a.m.

> Para:

> Asunto: conundrum...

>

>

>

> Hi, I've been a part of this group for a few weeks now

> but have yet to post. My name is Sylvia and I'm 21.

> I've been a lacto-vegetarian for about five months

> now.

> Last week, I was put on a fat-free diet due to

> gallbladder problems. I haven't " cheated, " but I'm

> only managing to eat about 900 to 1000 calories a day.

> I'm not starving myself, but that is all it takes to

> make me feel full.

> The problem is, I've actually GAINED weight since

> starting this. My s.o. thinks this is because i am

> eating too few calories. If I ate anymore, I'd feel as

> if I were overeating. I am hoping that some of you

> might have suggestions to assist me with this. Am I

> doing something wrong?

>

>

>

>

> " religion was created for the benefit of man, not the other way around. "

> -- His Holiness the Dalai Lama

>

> " all my fish are slanted and require beards. "

> --Frylock

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, Bob C <rcomarow wrote:

 

> Completely fat free is dangerous.

 

If someone has been 'put on a fat-free diet' then we have to accept that.

Remarks of the

kind that might make someone waver on this (not necessarily the member in

question, of

course, but perhaps another someone sometime) could also be very dangerous. For

someone with gall bladder problems, a fat-free diet is not an unusual thing,

perhaps even

to be expected. Relatives of mine with the problem don't eat anything known to

have fat in

it, let alone add it to their food when cooking or after.

 

We do not give medical advice here nor do we argue against medical advice given

to

members, which amounts to the same thing, really, doesn't it? ;-) Just a

reminder.

 

Now where were we! LOL I'll go back and try to pick up the thread again (feel as

if I've

dropped a stitch!)

 

Best love to you all and Happy Weekend,

 

Pat

[Guest guest]

I did not intend to give medical advice.

 

I responded to the gall bladder issue because I felt that the writer is still

ill, having been thru it myself. It is not a completely fat free diet because

there is fat in all kinds of places.

 

Sorry

Kathleen

 

veggiehound <veggiehound wrote:

> Completely fat free is dangerous.

 

If someone has been 'put on a fat-free diet' then we have to accept that.

Remarks of the

kind that might make someone waver on this (not necessarily the member in

question, of

course, but perhaps another someone sometime) could also be very dangerous. For

someone with gall bladder problems, a fat-free diet is not an unusual thing,

perhaps even

to be expected. Relatives of mine with the problem don't eat anything known to

have fat in

it, let alone add it to their food when cooking or after.

 

 

Kathleen M. Pelley

Knitters are Real Purls

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

If you look again, Kathleen, you will see that the quote to which my message was

responding was NOT from you ;-) I have no quarrel with your post. Thank you for

being so

helpful to someone who is now in the situation in which you have previously

found

yourself. I always rely on your for good common sense!

 

Best love, Pat , Kathleen Pelley

<kmpelley wrote:

>

> I did not intend to give medical advice.

>

> I responded to the gall bladder issue because I felt that the writer is

still ill, having

been thru it myself. It is not a completely fat free diet because there is fat

in all kinds of

places.

>

> Sorry

> Kathleen

>

> veggiehound <veggiehound wrote:

> > Completely fat free is dangerous.

>

> If someone has been 'put on a fat-free diet' then we have to accept that.

Remarks of the

> kind that might make someone waver on this (not necessarily the member in

question,

of

> course, but perhaps another someone sometime) could also be very dangerous.

For

> someone with gall bladder problems, a fat-free diet is not an unusual thing,

perhaps

even

> to be expected. Relatives of mine with the problem don't eat anything known to

have fat

in

> it, let alone add it to their food when cooking or after.

>

>

> Kathleen M. Pelley

> Knitters are Real Purls

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

veggiehound wrote:

 

> , Bob C <rcomarow wrote:

>

> We do not give medical advice here nor do we argue against medical

> advice given to

> members, which amounts to the same thing, really, doesn't it? ;-) Just

> a reminder.

>

Please understand, I am not arguing, just presenting a viewpoint.

I would think we should all balance medical advise with other factors.

Medical mistakes

are one of the leading causes of death. We should seek out the best

doctors, a rare

breed, one who encourages an active patient.

 

We do know that most medical schools teach the minimum amount of

nutrition. It is my opinion

that we should question, and continue to research any of our problems.

 

I recently met Dr. Rebecca Carly, who gave a lift to my neurologist's

office. She was a trauma surgeon, who then

became perhaps the foremost expert on the effects of vaccination related

diseases. We discussed a medication I was on for a closed head

injury, and she said, " The medication is not addressing the cause of

your seizures " . I suggested that

Functional Medicine might interest her, and she responded that she found

most of the doctors that suggest they are open to alternative medicine

are too quick to pull out their prescription pad. This is a doctor more

hostile to the AMA than I.

 

People might like to see her web page which is very revealing about

vaccinations.

http://www.drcarley.com/

 

There is no substitute for good medical care. But I've often proven my

doctors wrong with juicing, exercise, and other

holistic practices.

 

Any time I'm given a medication I look it up on the net. A close

friend was strongly advised by her doctor, even though

she was a vegetarian, that she had to start taking fish oil. She was

told she had no choice. Well, she's allergic to iodine, and we were

quick to find that anyone allergic to iodine should not take fish oil.

Had we not researched it, she would have been in trouble. She had also

been prescribed some medication by a cardiologist, and the pharmacist

was alert to point out that the new drugs, combined with the existing

drugs were potentially fatal.

 

Mind you, two weeks ago a great doctor did an ulnae nerve relocation and

CTS surgery. Two weeks later, when I had my staples and stitches

removed, the doctor, knowing I was a musician, told me he has already

operated on his son 4 times for musical related injuries. We talked,

he took out his pad and started taking notes.

 

It's great that she has a doctor that is sensitive to the economic

ramifications of treatment. In my view,

a really good doctor is open to the patient questioning and researching

alternative ideas. I was seeing a specialist

(rated in the top 50 doctors in the States), and went to see someone

else to get another opinion. I said I hoped he didn't mind, and he

said " It's smart, it's your body " .

 

So, yes we need good doctors, and a good doctor, very rare, is worth

their weight in gold. And the best doctor would

want their patients to take an active role in learning, improving their

health, and would not object to questioning and

examining alternatives.

 

A friend of mine nearly died for improper medical care for her gall

bladder. She was in horrendous pain, went to the

ER, and they called the doctor, who happened to be the Chief MD for NASA

(I live near the rocket ranch). He was about to remove her appendix

when she convinced him, and had to fight hard, that it was her gall bladder.

 

My X wife had her gall bladder removed. She wished she had juiced and

tried to flush it out.

 

Best of luck.

 

Bob

 

 

 

 

> ow where were we! LOL I'll go back and try to pick up the thread again

> (feel as if I've

> dropped a stitch!)

>

> Best love to you all and Happy Weekend,

>

> Pat

>

>

 

[Guest guest]

, Bob C <rcomarow wrote:

 

> I would think we should all balance medical advise with other factors.

> Medical mistakes

> are one of the leading causes of death. We should seek out the best

> doctors, a rare

> breed, one who encourages an active patient.

 

Yes, we all know someone who has suffered 'medical mistakes' - we have some

horrendous examples in our family.

 

> We do know that most medical schools teach the minimum amount of

> nutrition.

 

Fortunately, there are dieticians/nutritionists, professionally trained for this

job!

 

>It is my opinion

> that we should question, and continue to research any of our problems.

 

I agree wholeheartedly - bearing in mind, of course, that somewhere along the

line we

might indeed meet someone better able to interpret that research than we are

ourselves.

 

> There is no substitute for good medical care. But I've often proven my

> doctors wrong with juicing, exercise, and other

> holistic practices.

 

Me too - and sometimes with doing nothing at all LOL So many complaints go away

on

their own, thank heavens!

 

> the best doctor would

> want their patients to take an active role in learning, improving their

> health, and would not object to questioning and

> examining alternatives.

 

If only they had time for that these days! They don't, of course, at least not

here - too

many patients, not enough docs :-(

 

> A friend of mine nearly died for improper medical care . . .

 

Ouch - quite a story. Look, I sympathize totally with what you say - and I must

say I have

probably been around on this earth longer than you yourself and so, by sheer

weight of

years, have probably seen even more awful cases (especially since, because of

that 'weight

of years', medicine was not even as advanced when I was younger as it is now!).

My

attitude is that one should keep as fit as they can (not everyone can exercise

to the ideal)

and eat a healthy (yeah, guess what I think is 'healthy'!! LOL) diet, etc. - and

look for

simple solutions to minor medical woes rather than heading for the nearest

clinic for a

prescription. But of course, when the going gets tough, we all head for the

medical crew,

and we need em and, ultimately, have to trust them in some circumstances. We can

treat

ourselves and question their treatments and diagnoses up to a point, but sooner

or later

we have to acknowledge the greater expertise (I wouldn't try to do my own heart

transplant, for an extreme e.g.) and go with it. Just as a person who represents

himself in

court has a fool for a client, as the saying goes . . . . <wink>

 

Best love, Pat