what i've been eating

[Guest guest]

In a typical day, I usually have a couple of rice

cakes with cream cheese, a yogurt or a pudding, I

*try* to have a spinach salad with fat free dressing

for lunch. My dinner varies the most. Typical of

dinner are baked potatoes with salsa, vegetarian

chili, soy barbeque. I try to eat a serving or two of

vegetables with my " main course. " I like peas,

asparagus, squash, and corn mostly. It's just hard

because fat free stuff is usually low in calories, so

I'm not eating enough food. I've been overweight since

I was a child and I do not know how to deal with this.

It is definetely a first, lol.

I went to the grocery store this morning and bought

fresh apples and bananas, green and red peppers that I

intend to stuff with vegetarian " meat, " zucchini,

portabello mushrooms, and watermelon. I also got fat

free milk, cream cheese, more rice cakes (those

suckers are good), bread, vegetarian chili (this is

only 99% fat free, but there's only 1 fat gram a

serving), pudding, and yogurt.

I'm going to try to eat more veggies and fruit daily,

and hopefully that will improve my calorie count. I

got a neat recipe for zucchini-based pizza crust. I'll

post it if it turns out okay. I'm spectacle because

fat free cheese does NOT melt well.

Thank you for the links, Laura. I'm looking through

them as we speak.

--Sylvia

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Smack me if I'm out of line but I tend to stay away from fat free dressings

because in place of the real stuff that has fat is gobbeldy goo that is even

worse for you? perhaps sprinkle some vinegar or lemon juice would be better?

 

remember starchy 'vegetables' behave well, like starch. peas, corn, potatoes

(do most people still think of spuds as a veggie?), & hard squashes.

 

but it sounds like you're on the right track! good luck & keep up the great

work!

Beth

 

SyLvIa fOX <tinkerfag wrote:

a spinach salad with fat free dressing

I like peas, asparagus, squash, and corn mostly.

 

Beth

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[Guest guest]

Well, I have to eat something, okay? I don't like many vegetables at

all and I seriously gag at the sight of a salad. the dressing helps

mask the taste.

 

> Smack me if I'm out of line but I tend to stay away from fat free

dressings because in place of the real stuff that has fat is

gobbeldy goo that is even worse for you? perhaps sprinkle some

vinegar or lemon juice would be better?

>

> remember starchy 'vegetables' behave well, like starch. peas,

corn, potatoes (do most people still think of spuds as a veggie?), &

hard squashes.

>

> but it sounds like you're on the right track! good luck & keep

up the great work!

> Beth

>

> SyLvIa fOX <tinkerfag wrote:

> a spinach salad with fat free dressing

> I like peas, asparagus, squash, and corn mostly.

>

> Beth

> " The right adult at the right time can make an enormous

difference. Many kids have a history of difficult, disappointing

relationships and one good relationship--one person who is there for

them--can make a huge difference. "

> -Jean E. Rhodes Professor, Psychology at the University of

Massachusetts in Boston.

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Im the same way, but I have learned " a little dab will do ya. "

 

Betty

 

Sylvia <tinkerfag wrote:

Well, I have to eat something, okay? I don't like many vegetables at

all and I seriously gag at the sight of a salad. the dressing helps

mask the taste.

 

> Smack me if I'm out of line but I tend to stay away from fat free

dressings because in place of the real stuff that has fat is

gobbeldy goo that is even worse for you? perhaps sprinkle some

vinegar or lemon juice would be better?

>

> remember starchy 'vegetables' behave well, like starch. peas,

corn, potatoes (do most people still think of spuds as a veggie?), &

hard squashes.

>

> but it sounds like you're on the right track! good luck & keep

up the great work!

> Beth

>

> SyLvIa fOX wrote:

> a spinach salad with fat free dressing

> I like peas, asparagus, squash, and corn mostly.

>

> Beth

> " The right adult at the right time can make an enormous

difference. Many kids have a history of difficult, disappointing

relationships and one good relationship--one person who is there for

them--can make a huge difference. "

> -Jean E. Rhodes Professor, Psychology at the University of

Massachusetts in Boston.

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

> Smack me if I'm out of line but I tend to stay away from all bottled dressings

because in

place of the real stuff that has fat is gobbeldy goo that is even worse for you?

perhaps

sprinkle some vinegar or lemon juice would be better?

 

You're right about the gobbeldy goo LOL To make one's own fat-free dressings, I

dunno

how cuz all I've ever liked on salad is vinaigrette of one kind or another or,

as you so

wisely suggest (and this is a low-fat group and I try to be low-fat!) , a little

vinegar or

juice. You can use a mix of balsamic and other vinegar, or use rice vinegar (not

as strong),

or freshly squeezed orange and lime juice (my fave). That lets the taste of the

veggies

shine through, eh?

 

Best love, Pat

[Guest guest]

> Well, I have to eat something, okay? I don't like many vegetables at

> all and I seriously gag at the sight of a salad. the dressing helps

> mask the taste.

 

What a dreadful trial vegetarianism is for you! I hardly know what to say to

someone who

feels this way about the vegetarian diet except to suggest you find different

ways of

preparing vegetables (and different kinds of salads). Many vegetables that you

presently

dislike may be remarkably improved by not overcooking them. Others take on a

whole new

life by roasting them in the oven with interesting herbs or spices. No wonder

you are

having trouble eating if your food makes you gag, though. What an unhappy

thought! And

all this going on for five months since you started? Or has the dislike crept up

on you??

Poor baby - total sympathy! I used to have the same response to me*t!

 

Best love, Pat

[Guest guest]

Maybe it's time to try some new & different vegetables? I'm not a huge fan of

salad, myself. I roast all sorts of stuff & my kids fight over the last

portions. Just drizzle a bit of olive oil on & roast at 375F until brown &

nummy looking. parsnips, carrots, leeks, brussels sprouts, cabbage, zucchini,

peppers, turnips, shallots, broccoli, cauliflower, eggplant, fennel ...what am I

forgetting? Please don't boil veggies - it makes them so unhappy. Then

sprinkle w/a bit of kosher salt & you're good to go. Vegetable bean soups are

an easy way to get good protein & veggies w/out fat, too. You can use tomato

juice instead of broth or water. Season up good & you're off on another

adventure! Hating food is no way to live. Good luck. Beth

Well, I have to eat something, okay? I don't like many vegetables at all and I

seriously gag at the sight of a salad. the dressing helps mask the taste.

 

 

Beth

“The right adult at the right time can make an enormous difference. Many kids

have a history of difficult, disappointing relationships and one good

relationship--one person who is there for them--can make a huge difference.”

-Jean E. Rhodes Professor, Psychology at the University of Massachusetts in

Boston.

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Oh, I forgot...saute greens in a bit of olive oil & lots of mashed garlic then

sprinkle w/kosher salt - escarole, frisee, my mind just drew a blank...kale,

collards, spinach - just takes a second to wilt the spinach. try diff stuff in

salads - radicchio, endive & arugula are my faves. (insalata tri colore)

 

> Well, I have to eat something, okay? I don't like many vegetables at all and

I seriously gag at the sight of a salad. the dressing helps mask the taste.

 

 

Beth

“The right adult at the right time can make an enormous difference. Many kids

have a history of difficult, disappointing relationships and one good

relationship--one person who is there for them--can make a huge difference.”

-Jean E. Rhodes Professor, Psychology at the University of Massachusetts in

Boston.

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

> Oh, I forgot...saute greens in a bit of olive oil & lots of mashed garlic then

sprinkle w/

kosher salt -

 

Great move! And if you're being really really strict on the low-fat, you can

just use a tiny

smidgin or even one of those incredible olive-oil-flavoured pan sprays (not as

much fun,

but still tasty!). Thanks, Beth, those are good ideas - and I have to reinforce

what you said

in an earlier email about roasting the veggies in the oven. (I *thought* it was

you who told

me to do that, and I guess it was!) Also the different salad veggies - salad can

be exciting!

I hated salad when I was an omnivore, but now, with all this variety of food

available (no

room in the tum for it before I went veggie ;-)) I have learned to adore it -

though, I admit,

NOT the leafy stuff. (Sorry, guys.) I wilt my greens and sprinkle various herbs

and spices

on them ;-)

 

So there you go - eat fancier, that's what you should do!!! LOL

 

Any other ideas??

 

Love, Pat

[Guest guest]

I used to hate salads until i discovered there were other lettuce leaves

than iceberg! My parents only ever had iceberg or little gem as that is all

my siblings would eat. I, on the other hand, hate the crunchy stuff but

like spinach, rocket and lollo rosso etc. A good way to eat salad, i find,

is the have it as a side dish with either bolognaise or chilli or pasta in

sauce or homemade low fat lasagne (which is possible!). That way it semi

wilts and tastes so yummy with the tomate sauce! I like salad with hot

things! Is that weird?

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

My problem is, I do not like vegetables. I just don't. I decided to

become a vegetarian for animal-rights reasons. It has been a slow

transition over the past year or so. At first, I gave up beef and

pork, a few months after that I gave up poultry, and recently I have

given up seafood. I am hoping to eliminate dairy products from my diet

within the next calendar year, but I think that is going to be the

hardest. Seafood was a major staple of my diet for the past few

months, and I think that's part of my problem. Today, I made a

zucchini crust pizza and I enjoyed it. I used portabello mushrooms,

which have a pleasant texture. I also made a heavily spiced vegetable

soup in the crockpot, and that was also pretty good. I hope things

will improve as I try new recipes. The fat free diet that I mentioned

in earlier posts just complicates things. I did pick up a fat-free

sundried tomato vinagrette that is much better tasting than ranch,

french, etc. I aplogize if I am trying your patience with my problems,

but I really have no one else to talk to about this.

--Sylvia

[Guest guest]

Sylvia wrote:

 

> My problem is, I do not like vegetables. I just don't. I decided to

> become a vegetarian for animal-rights reasons. It has been a slow

> transition over the past year or so. At first, I gave up beef and

> pork, a few months after that I gave up poultry, and recently I have

> given up seafood. I am hoping to eliminate dairy products from my diet

> within the next calendar year, but I think that is going to be the

> hardest. Seafood was a major staple of my diet for the past few

> months, and I think that's part of my problem. Today, I made a

> zucchini crust pizza and I enjoyed it. I used portabello mushrooms,

> which have a pleasant texture. I also made a heavily spiced vegetable

> soup in the crockpot, and that was also pretty good. I hope things

> will improve as I try new recipes. The fat free diet that I mentioned

> in earlier posts just complicates things. I did pick up a fat-free

> sundried tomato vinagrette that is much better tasting than ranch,

> french, etc. I aplogize if I am trying your patience with my problems,

> but I really have no one else to talk to about this.

> --Sylvia

>

>

Plea don't worry, what better purpose could this group serve?

 

There are a lot of vegetarians that don't like a lot of veggies. It often

means you need to experiment and find the ones you like.

 

However, there are some other alternatives.

 

There are a lot of people who are " fruitarians " , and only eat fruit. Their

spiritual side is that nothing is destroyed, as fruit is designed to be

eaten.

 

And it does work. These people are healthy. I know in Britain there is a

fruitarian road racing bicycling team.

 

Here's their site.

 

http://www.fruitarian.com/

 

You could still have a lot of fruit and eat some other things you enjoy.

 

Maybe that would help you.

 

Thanks,

 

Bob

[Guest guest]

Bob wrote:

 

> There are a lot of people who are " fruitarians " , and only eat fruit. Their

> spiritual side is that nothing is destroyed, as fruit is designed to be

> eaten.

.. . .

> You could still have a lot of fruit and eat some other things you enjoy.

>

> Maybe that would help you.

 

Not a bad thought, eh? It might mean having to supplement a bit (or would it?

I'm not a

fruitarian.) but it would be a neat way to enjoy what one likes. It wouldn't

have to be all or

nothing, is what you are saying ;-)

 

Best love, Pat

[Guest guest]

Sylvia,

Please don't feel you are trying our patience. I always feel its a bit of an

honour to be asked for help. Bob's right, what else are we here for if not

to support each other and answer questions. We might not have all the

answers but we may be able to help with a few.

Which vegetables do you like? Are there any that you feel are more likeable

than others? Maybe we could suggest some ideas using them.

Sweet potatoes are really nice when you roast them or bake them like

jackets. I guess you guys probably call them baked potatoes rather than

jacket potatoes like us Brits! )

Something like a chilli or curry can hide a multitude of veggies which are

good for you but don't dominate taste wise.

Well done for trying the things you have. I might be veggie for ethical

reasons but i'm lucky because i like them. I think you have done so well

for sticking to your morals despite the fact that it's being a bit of an

ordeal for you. (((hugs from me)))

 

Laura x

 

 

 

On 5/3/06, Sylvia <tinkerfag wrote:

>

> My problem is, I do not like vegetables. I just don't. I decided to

> become a vegetarian for animal-rights reasons. It has been a slow

> transition over the past year or so. At first, I gave up beef and

> pork, a few months after that I gave up poultry, and recently I have

> given up seafood. I am hoping to eliminate dairy products from my diet

> within the next calendar year, but I think that is going to be the

> hardest. Seafood was a major staple of my diet for the past few

> months, and I think that's part of my problem. Today, I made a

> zucchini crust pizza and I enjoyed it. I used portabello mushrooms,

> which have a pleasant texture. I also made a heavily spiced vegetable

> soup in the crockpot, and that was also pretty good. I hope things

> will improve as I try new recipes. The fat free diet that I mentioned

> in earlier posts just complicates things. I did pick up a fat-free

> sundried tomato vinagrette that is much better tasting than ranch,

> french, etc. I aplogize if I am trying your patience with my problems,

> but I really have no one else to talk to about this.

> --Sylvia

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

thank you for the encouraging note, Laura. I really appreciate it, and

I hope you are feeling better soon.

I do love sweet potatoes. I picked up a couple at the grocery store

this week. I bake or roast them and eat the skins and all. They're

delicious.

I have done pretty well this week. I made a zucchini-crust pizza and

have been eating spinach salads instead of lettuce mixes. I lost two

pounds, so I assume I'm doing something right. I found a recipe for a

corn cheddar casserole that I am going to make next week.

I had to go to a funeral yesterday (one of my mother's coworker's

mothers, no one close to me, thank goodness) and was invited back to

eat with the family. Of course, they had a bunch of stuff that wasn't

good for me -- macaroni, mashed potatoes, cornbread, catfish, turnip

greens. That's southern cooking for you, though. I did eat some

macaroni and mashed potatoes, but my stomach did NOT appreciate it and

I got a little sick. I haven't had much of an appetite since.

I have to go to a baby shower today, but am taking dishes that will

not hurt my stomach to share. I have regained my appetite, needless to

say :-)

--Sylvia

[Guest guest]

, " Sylvia " <tinkerfag wrote:

> I have done pretty well this week. I made a zucchini-crust pizza and

> have been eating spinach salads instead of lettuce mixes. I lost two

> pounds, so I assume I'm doing something right.

 

Wowieeee! Good for you, Sylvia. that's a breakthrough! I'm so proud of you ;-)

 

> I did eat some

> macaroni and mashed potatoes, but my stomach did NOT appreciate it and

> I got a little sick. I haven't had much of an appetite since.

 

Bad luck :-( That happens to me bigtime when I have to eat out with people who

don't

share my dietary interests (and that, needless to say, is just about everyone!

LOL)

 

> I have to go to a baby shower today, but am taking dishes that will

> not hurt my stomach to share.

 

Excellent move! Good thinking. That's the only way to go. And not only that, but

you get to

show people what nice food you can and do eat.

 

> I have regained my appetite, needless to

> say :-)

 

So Glad! It's awful to feel ill all the time. Take care of yourself and let us

know what

happend at the *baby shower* - well, okay, the food bit too, of course LOL

 

Enjoy the rest of your weekend.

 

Best love and hugs,

 

Pat xxxxooooo