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I was looking for soymilk yesterday (I have a problem with dairy) and was

examining some

brands on the shelf, reading all that nutritional data, and I never cease to be

amazed at

the variety - calories per cup can run from 40 to 120, fat varying considerably

as does

sugar (even, with sugar, in the unflavoured soymilks). There's a 'slim' variety

I tried once

but didn't see the point of - I thin out with water - but it would ensure that

the proportion

of supplemented vitamins and minerals remained constant.

 

Oh - that reminds me to tell newbies that you should be able to find low-fat

varieties of all

your usual dairy and soy products.

 

Tofu varies considerably too, and I'm always torn between the organic variety

and the non-

organic: available to me is a lovely organic extra-firm tofu which seems to have

1/3 more

calories and more than twice as much fat as the non-organic brand, but the

non-organic

measures per 100 g. serving and the organic brand per 88 g. serving and somehow,

in the

middle of the supermarket, I'm never up to making those calculations in my head!

They

know that, of course. You'd think there'd be a standard, but no.

 

Since I avoid dairy, I'm always having trouble finding a substitute for butter

that contains

neither casein (from milk), whey (by-product of cheesemaking), or gelatin (for

newbie

veggies, that's from dead animals). Seems they are bound and determined to put

one of

those in if they leave another out LOL Which reminds me of warning to look for

gelatin in

some yoghurts (ewwwww!) and I've heard of lanolin in soymilk but not seen it

myself.

Crazy world.

 

In some parts of the world, of course, they label products vegetarian or vegan,

and that

would certainly be a blessing.

 

Enough ranting from me -

 

Best love, Pat

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Pat wrote:

 

 

 

> Since I avoid dairy, I'm always having trouble finding a substitute for

> butter that contains

> neither casein (from milk), whey (by-product of cheesemaking), or gelatin

> (for newbie

> veggies, that's from dead animals). Seems they are bound and determined to

> put one of

> those in if they leave another out LOL Which reminds me of warning to look

> for gelatin in

> some yoghurts (ewwwww!) and I've heard of lanolin in soymilk but not seen

> it myself.

> Crazy world.

 

 

Margarine or spread labeled pareve won't contain any gelatin or milk

by-products. (You should know, however, that other foods marked pareve may

contain fish or eggs.)

 

In some parts of the world, of course, they label products vegetarian or

> vegan, and that

> would certainly be a blessing.

 

 

That's one reason I like visiting Great Britain!

 

Annice

 

 

 

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> Margarine or spread labeled pareve won't contain any gelatin or milk

> by-products.

 

Thanks for that reminder - It will save me some time looking!

 

Best love, Pat

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This statement is not always true

You must read the labels

Elite.

 

 

 

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Friday, May 26, 2006 9:15 AM

 

Re: Differences in products

 

> Margarine or spread labeled pareve won't contain any gelatin or milk

> by-products.

 

Thanks for that reminder - It will save me some time looking!

 

Best love, Pat

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Useful heads-up. Thanks! I've also been told that such products are not always

vegan - I

guess it's a matter of (guessing here) the rules being according to

cultural/religious

practice and not being required to adhere to 'vegan' as some practice it.

 

Best love, Pat

 

> This statement is not always true

> You must read the labels

 

> > Margarine or spread labeled pareve won't contain any gelatin or milk

> > by-products.

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There's a margarine type spread over here called Pure that is vegan and

comes in three types - sunflower, soya or organic. Its quite nice but

unfortunately probably only available over here (UK).

We are lucky in having our food labelled vegetarian although most places

don't label food vegan. They are gretting better at it though. When i was

a vegan i spent hours shopping, reading all the ingredients. I can

empathise!

 

Laura x

 

 

On 5/27/06, Pat <veggiehound wrote:

>

> Useful heads-up. Thanks! I've also been told that such products are not

> always vegan - I

> guess it's a matter of (guessing here) the rules being according to

> cultural/religious

> practice and not being required to adhere to 'vegan' as some practice it.

>

> Best love, Pat

>

>

> > This statement is not always true

> > You must read the labels

>

 

 

 

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Laura wrote:

 

> We are lucky in having our food labelled vegetarian although most places

> don't label food vegan. They are gretting better at it though. When i

was

> a vegan i spent hours shopping, reading all the ingredients. I can

> empathise!

 

Hi Laura,

 

Yes I've just returned from the UK and rejoiced in shopping where

everything - even bread products etc. - is clearly labelled vegetarian. And

the availability of such a variety of vegetarian versions of all these quick

products such as quiches, pizzas etc. (may be not strictly on topic on this

list!). Here (Netherlands) is there no such thing as a vegetarian quiche (or

at least I've not found one) and the only pizza type is Four Cheeses, and

hoping that all the constituents are vegetarian.

 

Of course the real answer is to avoid all these fast foods and make

everything yourself - but it's sometimes useful to have them around! Piers

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Oh Piers! Poor you. I didn't realise that these things could be so hard to

get hold of in other countries. It does make me realise how lucky i am.

I'll think twice before i moan about the lack of vegetarian options about

from now on.

Is there a mail order or online delivery place that could get you some

interesting veggie food? There is quite a lot available in health food

stores over here, although there isn't really a good one near me. Plus a

few mail order companies that will send frozen or vacuum sealed foods by

courier.

 

Laura x

 

 

On 5/31/06, Piers Clement <piers_clement wrote:

>

> Laura wrote:

>

> > We are lucky in having our food labelled vegetarian although most places

> > don't label food vegan. They are gretting better at it though. When i

> was

> > a vegan i spent hours shopping, reading all the ingredients. I can

> > empathise!

>

> Hi Laura,

>

> Yes I've just returned from the UK and rejoiced in shopping where

> everything - even bread products etc. - is clearly labelled vegetarian.

> And

> the availability of such a variety of vegetarian versions of all these

> quick

> products such as quiches, pizzas etc. (may be not strictly on topic on

> this

> list!). Here (Netherlands) is there no such thing as a vegetarian quiche

> (or

> at least I've not found one) and the only pizza type is Four Cheeses, and

> hoping that all the constituents are vegetarian.

>

> Of course the real answer is to avoid all these fast foods and make

> everything yourself - but it's sometimes useful to have them around! Piers

>

>

>

>

>

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Laura wrote:

 

> Oh Piers! Poor you. I didn't realise that these things could be so hard to

> get hold of in other countries. It does make me realise how lucky i am.

> I'll think twice before i moan about the lack of vegetarian options about

> from now on.

 

It's not as bad as it sounds and getting better - a popular

middle-of-the-road restaurant chain now has a good vegetarian selection (2

or 3 choices) for all courses, and most restaurants have something to offer.

Stores are much less vegetarian friendly than UK - but who wants all these

pre-cooked over-processed items, full of additives and other harmful

materials?

 

Which reminds me, I recently heard on the BBC Food programme a piece about

food and medicine suggesting that for certain conditions (e.g. arthritis)

sunflower oil might not be the best choice - it is high in omega-6 fatty

acids which tend to compete against the " good " omega-3 ones contained in

(among other things) good old soya oil. Maybe the omega-3 and omega-6

controversy has already been discussed on this list - not sure now!

 

Piers

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Well, i think being able to eat out occasionally is important. Its good to

share a meal with friends. So i'm glad the situation there is ok. There are

still places over here that are terrible for vegetarians. I had the worst

salad ever at a local restaurant recently. It was as though they made it

them mashed it all up in their fists. Even the tomato was pulped.

You're right though, we shouldn't rely on the pre-cooked over priced over

processed stuff. Full of things we should avoid.

 

 

On 5/31/06, Piers Clement <piers_clement wrote:

>

> Laura wrote:

>

> > Oh Piers! Poor you. I didn't realise that these things could be so hard

> to

> > get hold of in other countries. It does make me realise how lucky i am.

> > I'll think twice before i moan about the lack of vegetarian options

> about

> > from now on.

>

> It's not as bad as it sounds and getting better - a popular

> middle-of-the-road restaurant chain now has a good vegetarian selection (2

> or 3 choices) for all courses, and most restaurants have something to

> offer.

> Stores are much less vegetarian friendly than UK - but who wants all these

> pre-cooked over-processed items, full of additives and other harmful

> materials?

>

> Which reminds me, I recently heard on the BBC Food programme a piece about

> food and medicine suggesting that for certain conditions (e.g. arthritis)

> sunflower oil might not be the best choice - it is high in omega-6 fatty

> acids which tend to compete against the " good " omega-3 ones contained in

> (among other things) good old soya oil. Maybe the omega-3 and omega-6

> controversy has already been discussed on this list - not sure now!

>

>

> Piers

>

>

>

>

>

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> Tofu varies considerably too, and I'm always torn between the

> organic variety and the non-organic: available to me is a lovely

> organic extra-firm tofu which seems to have 1/3 more calories and

> more than twice as much fat as the non-organic brand, but the

> non-organic measures per 100 g. serving and the organic brand per 88

> g. serving and somehow, in the middle of the supermarket, I'm never

> up to making those calculations in my head! They know that, of

> course. You'd think there'd be a standard, but no.

 

Oh that conundrum drives me crazy! However, I my cellphone broke and

I just got a new one - it has a calculator in it. It seems like many

of the newer models do, if that helps.

 

> and I've heard of lanolin in soymilk but not seen it myself.

 

Was the lanolin itself in teh soymilk? I though it was a

lanolin-derived D3, in 8th continent brand, maybe others. Though I

*think* I read they've switched to a veg D2, but I don't know for

sure. I use unsweetened Silk anyway (which, perversely enough, is

never available in the cheaper mulit-packs!).

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> Which reminds me, I recently heard on the BBC Food programme a piece

> about food and medicine suggesting that for certain conditions (e.g.

> arthritis) sunflower oil might not be the best choice - it is high in

> omega-6 fatty acids which tend to compete against the " good " omega-3

> ones contained in (among other things) good old soya oil. Maybe the

> omega-3 and omega-6 controversy has already been discussed on this

> list - not sure now!

 

Piers, any more detail on this? I found the BBC food site but

coouldn't find an article. My sister is on some medication for cancer

and the side effect is arthritis...

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> Was the lanolin itself in teh soymilk? I though it was a

> lanolin-derived D3, in 8th continent brand, maybe others. Though I

> *think* I read they've switched to a veg D2, but I don't know for

> sure.

 

Dunno either. But now that you mention it perhaps it *was* D3 derived from

lanolin. I

remember the brand name, so that's probably it. My error. Still, I wouldn't want

to use D3

for that reason (getting fussy in my old age).

 

Thanks for putting that straight.

 

Best love, Pat

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, " Amy " <sandpiperhiker

wrote:

>

> > Which reminds me, I recently heard on the BBC Food programme a piece

> > about food and medicine suggesting that for certain conditions (e.g.

> > arthritis) sunflower oil might not be the best choice - it is high in

> > omega-6 fatty acids which tend to compete against the " good " omega-3

> > ones contained in (among other things) good old soya oil. Maybe the

> > omega-3 and omega-6 controversy has already been discussed on this

> > list - not sure now!

>

> Piers, any more detail on this? I found the BBC food site but

> coouldn't find an article. My sister is on some medication for cancer

> and the side effect is arthritis...

>

Sorry about the delay in replying but I was away for 2 weeks and went

to special notices to avoid a full mailbox, and only now have made a

start in reading the messages stored on the web.

 

The programme I heard was about food and arthritis so it might be

interesting for you in general - see

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/factual/foodprogramme_20060528.shtml - you

can listen to that edition (need Real Player) and there are also some

links which may be useful.

 

HTH - Piers

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