Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Greetings, I tried this earlier, but used my wrong email address. How are people doing with their long term weight loss? As I understand, vegetarian/vegan weight loss is the main purpose for this group. I’d like help move it more in that direction. To help restart the topic, I’d give my own status. I was an obese child. In 4th grade I had a 36” waist. The suffering of a fat child is something only another one of us understands. Than in 9th grade I started running. And stayed in pretty good shape till 1981, on and off. In 1980 I ran at Wounded Knee, my first race ever 10 miles over rough terrain, 105 degree heat. I came in 7th of over 400 runners, and 2nd among non Native Americans. Running had been my savior. Then I got married. My X told me I didn’t have time. Sheesh. It came and it came. First 20, than 30 pounds. then a job where I started eating pizza at lunch. Then finally telecommuting. I had put on another person. It was always on a vegetarian diet. My father said that I’d better start exercising. I told him I didn’t have time. He said, “Then you better plan to spend a lot of time being sick.” One day I went for a walk with a friend. Worrying about my joints, I got a recumbent bicycle and became very enthusiastic. Over the years I kept going. I started researching, and it was those people that pushed weights built up a fat burning machine. I started adding weight training. When I lost a few, I renewed my old love, running. I was afraid of being hurt. What about my knees? It turns out that runners, that build up slowly, have no more knee problems than the rest of the population. But the do have much stronger bones. I made better progress. At 48 or so I had become faster and stronger than ever in my life. Even then when I ran cross country in high school. I finally broke a 7 minute mile in a 10K. I had added 15 pounds of muscle, and was still running well. At 35 more pounds of muscle than 1980 I was running faster. I had transformed my body. I was juicing a lot. Lots of leafy veggies. No proteins stuff. No dairy or eggs. I never got sick. Our immune system is based on our lymphatic system. It is more extensive than the circulatory system, but then it doesn’t have a pump. The pump is us. We must exercise for the lymphatic system to do its job. I was so happy to turn 50 in the best shape of my life, when, wham, car hit mine and it was going 90 mph. I was hurt. Two days later I couldn’t swim, feel my fingers on my left hand, and other issues. Even when I started to heal, the docs said no running, no weight training. Swimming. I did a good deal of swimming. Then the kiss of death. My girl friends grand daughter came for the summer. I started eating some Macaroni with cheese. I put on yet another 20 or 30 pounds. I looked pregnant, and could have worm a bra. The body I had worked so hard for was gone. I hurt. My joints were horrendous. They had me on pain pills from the accident. I had epidural shots. I went to a new pain, spinal specialist. She said that the research showed that the only thing that helps people with arthritis, even the most severe, as well as disc and spine problems was resistance and weight training. I got the go ahead to hit the gym. I used to be able to pump out about 20 dips while I was about 165. I now was about 200, and used a Gravitron, which made it seem like I was 100. One hurt. My joints were killing me. I remembered what the doctor said. I lowered the weights. I did more reps. I stayed with lighter weights and higher reps. In just a few weeks my joints started feeling much better. I dared to do some treadmill running. When you use weights, it forces synovial fluid into the joints. It breaks the patterns that cause spasms in your muscles. It strengthens the connective tissues supporting the spine, limbs and joints. Over the next month the strength gain was absolutely amazing. The stacks of weights moved back. But I was not losing any weight. I new I could not control my waist or my weight. I could not control how much iron I pushed. All I could control was how consistent I was. I knew that as a part time music teacher that the goal isn’t got get people to practice a lot. No one can get a significant amount of people to do that. The idea is to start a habit. I would tell the parents and the students they had to practice 10-15 minutes a day. They were incredulous. That’s right, but you can’t make up the next day what you missed on one day. The idea was to develop a practice habit. After 12 weeks, the habit becomes ingrained. It was no different than working out. You have to push yourself never to miss a day. At the National Weight Control Registry, one of the most common correlated factors is that the people who maintained long term weight loss worked out every day. Not several times a week. Every day. After a few months, suddenly the waistline started dropping and the scale showed a loss. At this point, after about 3.5 months back, I’ve lost about 17 pounds, but can now do 11 dips. When I started working out again, I was embarrassed to be able to only do 8 pushups. I’m up to 33, (after running). I’m not doing 7 minute miles, but I am running 5 K at 13 minute miles. I’ve gone down about 3 pants sizes. Obviously the 15 pounds is misleading since I’ve added a lot of muscle again. I can’t tell you how much better my back, elbow, wrist and other joints feel. I feel like a powerful, vital man again. I’ve gone back to eating a lot more raw foods. I eat more, not less. I just make sure I eat a lot of salads. NO, and I mean NO unprocessed poison. No white rice. No white flower products. None. My body is now begging me to start my morning workout. To push my body, let the sweat drip, my heart beat. No one ever got anywhere without sweating. And woman, behind every sexy curve is a muscle. The best cooking is raw. If you must cook, cook as little as possible. I would worry less about fancy cooking and try to retrain your taste buds and sensitivity to enjoy the incredible natural flavors. I did it once before, lost a person and kept it off for many years. I’m doing it again. Now for a commercial break for animal rights and our planet. Fish are animals, learn, feel pain. Their pain response is the same as ours. Same biochemistry. Same electricity. Fish populations are being consumed into extinctions. We are only decades form the complete loss of most fish populations. The primary source of oxygen for our planet is the plankton in the sea. This is one of many URL's describing the critical situation regarding fish. http://earthsave.org/news/fishwhat.htm Let Congress know we care. Sign a petition protecting our oceans. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/810504333?ltl=1165933964 Those who give up essential liberties for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 I'm doing the new WW core plan. I had grits n geed for breakfast. One of my eggs had a double yolk. Twins, LOL Bob <comarow wrote: Greetings, I tried this earlier, but used my wrong email address. How are people doing with their long term weight loss? As I understand, vegetarian/vegan weight loss is the main purpose for this group. I & #8217;d like help move it more in that direction. To help restart the topic, I & #8217;d give my own status. I was an obese child. In 4th grade I had a 36 & #8221; waist. The suffering of a fat child is something only another one of us understands. Than in 9th grade I started running. And stayed in pretty good shape till 1981, on and off. In 1980 I ran at Wounded Knee, my first race ever 10 miles over rough terrain, 105 degree heat. I came in 7th of over 400 runners, and 2nd among non Native Americans. Running had been my savior. Then I got married. My X told me I didn & #8217;t have time. Sheesh. It came and it came. First 20, than 30 pounds. then a job where I started eating pizza at lunch. Then finally telecommuting. I had put on another person. It was always on a vegetarian diet. My father said that I & #8217;d better start exercising. I told him I didn & #8217;t have time. He said, & #8220;Then you better plan to spend a lot of time being sick. & #8221; One day I went for a walk with a friend. Worrying about my joints, I got a recumbent bicycle and became very enthusiastic. Over the years I kept going. I started researching, and it was those people that pushed weights built up a fat burning machine. I started adding weight training. When I lost a few, I renewed my old love, running. I was afraid of being hurt. What about my knees? It turns out that runners, that build up slowly, have no more knee problems than the rest of the population. But the do have much stronger bones. I made better progress. At 48 or so I had become faster and stronger than ever in my life. Even then when I ran cross country in high school. I finally broke a 7 minute mile in a 10K. I had added 15 pounds of muscle, and was still running well. At 35 more pounds of muscle than 1980 I was running faster. I had transformed my body. I was juicing a lot. Lots of leafy veggies. No proteins stuff. No dairy or eggs. I never got sick. Our immune system is based on our lymphatic system. It is more extensive than the circulatory system, but then it doesn & #8217;t have a pump. The pump is us. We must exercise for the lymphatic system to do its job. I was so happy to turn 50 in the best shape of my life, when, wham, car hit mine and it was going 90 mph. I was hurt. Two days later I couldn & #8217;t swim, feel my fingers on my left hand, and other issues. Even when I started to heal, the docs said no running, no weight training. Swimming. I did a good deal of swimming. Then the kiss of death. My girl friends grand daughter came for the summer. I started eating some Macaroni with cheese. I put on yet another 20 or 30 pounds. I looked pregnant, and could have worm a bra. The body I had worked so hard for was gone. I hurt. My joints were horrendous. They had me on pain pills from the accident. I had epidural shots. I went to a new pain, spinal specialist. She said that the research showed that the only thing that helps people with arthritis, even the most severe, as well as disc and spine problems was resistance and weight training. I got the go ahead to hit the gym. I used to be able to pump out about 20 dips while I was about 165. I now was about 200, and used a Gravitron, which made it seem like I was 100. One hurt. My joints were killing me. I remembered what the doctor said. I lowered the weights. I did more reps. I stayed with lighter weights and higher reps. In just a few weeks my joints started feeling much better. I dared to do some treadmill running. When you use weights, it forces synovial fluid into the joints. It breaks the patterns that cause spasms in your muscles. It strengthens the connective tissues supporting the spine, limbs and joints. Over the next month the strength gain was absolutely amazing. The stacks of weights moved back. But I was not losing any weight. I new I could not control my waist or my weight. I could not control how much iron I pushed. All I could control was how consistent I was. I knew that as a part time music teacher that the goal isn & #8217;t got get people to practice a lot. No one can get a significant amount of people to do that. The idea is to start a habit. I would tell the parents and the students they had to practice 10-15 minutes a day. They were incredulous. That & #8217;s right, but you can & #8217;t make up the next day what you missed on one day. The idea was to develop a practice habit. After 12 weeks, the habit becomes ingrained. It was no different than working out. You have to push yourself never to miss a day. At the National Weight Control Registry, one of the most common correlated factors is that the people who maintained long term weight loss worked out every day. Not several times a week. Every day. After a few months, suddenly the waistline started dropping and the scale showed a loss. At this point, after about 3.5 months back, I & #8217;ve lost about 17 pounds, but can now do 11 dips. When I started working out again, I was embarrassed to be able to only do 8 pushups. I & #8217;m up to 33, (after running). I & #8217;m not doing 7 minute miles, but I am running 5 K at 13 minute miles. I & #8217;ve gone down about 3 pants sizes. Obviously the 15 pounds is misleading since I & #8217;ve added a lot of muscle again. I can & #8217;t tell you how much better my back, elbow, wrist and other joints feel. I feel like a powerful, vital man again. I & #8217;ve gone back to eating a lot more raw foods. I eat more, not less. I just make sure I eat a lot of salads. NO, and I mean NO unprocessed poison. No white rice. No white flower products. None. My body is now begging me to start my morning workout. To push my body, let the sweat drip, my heart beat. No one ever got anywhere without sweating. And woman, behind every sexy curve is a muscle. The best cooking is raw. If you must cook, cook as little as possible. I would worry less about fancy cooking and try to retrain your taste buds and sensitivity to enjoy the incredible natural flavors. I did it once before, lost a person and kept it off for many years. I & #8217;m doing it again. Now for a commercial break for animal rights and our planet. Fish are animals, learn, feel pain. Their pain response is the same as ours. Same biochemistry. Same electricity. Fish populations are being consumed into extinctions. We are only decades form the complete loss of most fish populations. The primary source of oxygen for our planet is the plankton in the sea. This is one of many URL's describing the critical situation regarding fish. http://earthsave.org/news/fishwhat.htm Let Congress know we care. Sign a petition protecting our oceans. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/810504333?ltl=1165933964 Those who give up essential liberties for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Greetings back at 'cha Bob! It's a good feeling when you begin to feel " in control " again huh? I go in and out of that. Congratulations to you! I consider myself an " aspiring vegan " . Most of my adult life, I have been very unhealthy and overweight. It's been 4 years now since I started to contol my own body some. I can't do it completely but I am in a MUCH better state now than ever in my life. 4 years ago, for purely health reason, I cut out all red meat. Funny thing is, once you start really looking at vegetarian recipes you also look at the " ethical " side of the vegetarian lifestyle. At least I did. A couple of months later, I progressed to eliminating ALL meat, whether it be from land or water. I then took a couple of years to really check out the world of vegetarianism. For my resolution last year, I eliminated all dairy and BOY! was that a learning experience! This coming New Years resolution will be the end of eggs in my diet. My question to you and other members is regarding raw produce. I am not a raw foodist but I do try to eat as much raw food and possible. I have become VERY concerned with the E COLI contaminating on organic produce lately. It worries me that NOTHING is safe anymore. Does this affect your raw food thinking? Stef Argue not with dragons, for thou art crunchy and go well with brie. Share your photos with the people who matter at Canada Photos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Hi Bob ~ Your journey is very interesting. Thank you for sharing it and I'm glad you're back on the path that makes you feel the best! I've lost about 21 pounds doing Weight Watchers. My partner has lost about 13. I have many many more pounds than her to lose. We have both been vegetarain for over 2 years; she used to be vegan before we were together for a period. We used to eat a not-so-healthy vegetarian diet which is so easy to do. Over the last year, we have concentrated on making healthier meals and get most of our produce from the farmers market. The intial drive for my weight loss was a doctor recommendation before trying to get pregnant. She wanted me to lose at least 20, which I've done. I feel better, my clothes fit better and I'm happy with the progress. We won't be trying to get me pregnant for another month at least so I plan to continue to lose until then and then continue a healthy eating regime while pregnant. I don't exercise as much as I could. I have made a conscious decision to take the stairs to my office on the third floor rather than the elevator and I've noticed an ease in doing this over a short time. We take our dog for brisk walks often which is my main exercise at this time. I hope to start riding my bike again soon once the weather clears a bit as well. I guess that's it for me for now. Thanks for the conversation starter Bob! Cindi Bob <comarow wrote: Greetings, I tried this earlier, but used my wrong email address. How are people doing with their long term weight loss? As I understand, vegetarian/vegan weight loss is the main purpose for this group. I’d like help move it more in that direction. To help restart the topic, I’d give my own status. I was an obese child. In 4th grade I had a 36” waist. The suffering of a fat child is something only another one of us understands. Than in 9th grade I started running. And stayed in pretty good shape till 1981, on and off. In 1980 I ran at Wounded Knee, my first race ever 10 miles over rough terrain, 105 degree heat. I came in 7th of over 400 runners, and 2nd among non Native Americans. Running had been my savior. Then I got married. My X told me I didn’t have time. Sheesh. It came and it came. First 20, than 30 pounds. then a job where I started eating pizza at lunch. Then finally telecommuting. I had put on another person. It was always on a vegetarian diet. My father said that I’d better start exercising. I told him I didn’t have time. He said, “Then you better plan to spend a lot of time being sick.” One day I went for a walk with a friend. Worrying about my joints, I got a recumbent bicycle and became very enthusiastic. Over the years I kept going. I started researching, and it was those people that pushed weights built up a fat burning machine. I started adding weight training. When I lost a few, I renewed my old love, running. I was afraid of being hurt. What about my knees? It turns out that runners, that build up slowly, have no more knee problems than the rest of the population. But the do have much stronger bones. I made better progress. At 48 or so I had become faster and stronger than ever in my life. Even then when I ran cross country in high school. I finally broke a 7 minute mile in a 10K. I had added 15 pounds of muscle, and was still running well. At 35 more pounds of muscle than 1980 I was running faster. I had transformed my body. I was juicing a lot. Lots of leafy veggies. No proteins stuff. No dairy or eggs. I never got sick. Our immune system is based on our lymphatic system. It is more extensive than the circulatory system, but then it doesn’t have a pump. The pump is us. We must exercise for the lymphatic system to do its job. I was so happy to turn 50 in the best shape of my life, when, wham, car hit mine and it was going 90 mph. I was hurt. Two days later I couldn’t swim, feel my fingers on my left hand, and other issues. Even when I started to heal, the docs said no running, no weight training. Swimming. I did a good deal of swimming. Then the kiss of death. My girl friends grand daughter came for the summer. I started eating some Macaroni with cheese. I put on yet another 20 or 30 pounds. I looked pregnant, and could have worm a bra. The body I had worked so hard for was gone. I hurt. My joints were horrendous. They had me on pain pills from the accident. I had epidural shots. I went to a new pain, spinal specialist. She said that the research showed that the only thing that helps people with arthritis, even the most severe, as well as disc and spine problems was resistance and weight training. I got the go ahead to hit the gym. I used to be able to pump out about 20 dips while I was about 165. I now was about 200, and used a Gravitron, which made it seem like I was 100. One hurt. My joints were killing me. I remembered what the doctor said. I lowered the weights. I did more reps. I stayed with lighter weights and higher reps. In just a few weeks my joints started feeling much better. I dared to do some treadmill running. When you use weights, it forces synovial fluid into the joints. It breaks the patterns that cause spasms in your muscles. It strengthens the connective tissues supporting the spine, limbs and joints. Over the next month the strength gain was absolutely amazing. The stacks of weights moved back. But I was not losing any weight. I new I could not control my waist or my weight. I could not control how much iron I pushed. All I could control was how consistent I was. I knew that as a part time music teacher that the goal isn’t got get people to practice a lot. No one can get a significant amount of people to do that. The idea is to start a habit. I would tell the parents and the students they had to practice 10-15 minutes a day. They were incredulous. That’s right, but you can’t make up the next day what you missed on one day. The idea was to develop a practice habit. After 12 weeks, the habit becomes ingrained. It was no different than working out. You have to push yourself never to miss a day. At the National Weight Control Registry, one of the most common correlated factors is that the people who maintained long term weight loss worked out every day. Not several times a week. Every day. After a few months, suddenly the waistline started dropping and the scale showed a loss. At this point, after about 3.5 months back, I’ve lost about 17 pounds, but can now do 11 dips. When I started working out again, I was embarrassed to be able to only do 8 pushups. I’m up to 33, (after running). I’m not doing 7 minute miles, but I am running 5 K at 13 minute miles. I’ve gone down about 3 pants sizes. Obviously the 15 pounds is misleading since I’ve added a lot of muscle again. I can’t tell you how much better my back, elbow, wrist and other joints feel. I feel like a powerful, vital man again. I’ve gone back to eating a lot more raw foods. I eat more, not less. I just make sure I eat a lot of salads. NO, and I mean NO unprocessed poison. No white rice. No white flower products. None. My body is now begging me to start my morning workout. To push my body, let the sweat drip, my heart beat. No one ever got anywhere without sweating. And woman, behind every sexy curve is a muscle. The best cooking is raw. If you must cook, cook as little as possible. I would worry less about fancy cooking and try to retrain your taste buds and sensitivity to enjoy the incredible natural flavors. I did it once before, lost a person and kept it off for many years. I’m doing it again. Now for a commercial break for animal rights and our planet. Fish are animals, learn, feel pain. Their pain response is the same as ours. Same biochemistry. Same electricity. Fish populations are being consumed into extinctions. We are only decades form the complete loss of most fish populations. The primary source of oxygen for our planet is the plankton in the sea. This is one of many URL's describing the critical situation regarding fish. http://earthsave.org/news/fishwhat.htm Let Congress know we care. Sign a petition protecting our oceans. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/810504333?ltl=1165933964 Those who give up essential liberties for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 a raw foodist but I do try to eat as much raw food and possible. I have become VERY concerned with the E COLI contaminating on organic produce lately. There are many dangers in the world. People have been eating raw produce for thousands of years. We know that raw foods are what we are designed to eat. We should wash all food. We never know who handled it. The most important thing to remember is your immune system. We are constantly exposed to all kinds of microbes, but do we get sick? If we exercise, our lymphatic system has the chance to do it's wonders. Eat healthy, get sleep and exercise, and stop worrying. Bob It worries me that NOTHING is safe anymore. Does this affect your raw food thinking? Stef Argue not with dragons, for thou art crunchy and go well with brie. Share your photos with the people who matter at Canada Photos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Wow, Bob, what a great come-back! I've gone from " pesco " to vegan, who knows, maybe eventually I'll get to raw! Thanks for your story. Coleen Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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