vegan fish question (was New to Group)

[Guest guest]

, " Hope " <hope46224 wrote:

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> P.S. Why is it that vegans do not eat fish? Jesus provided fish and

> loaves to the masses. Just trying to understand different views of

> life. Please don't think I am an idiot!!

 

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Vegans do not eat anything of animal origin, including

dairy and eggs. So, fish are definitely out. I don't

know about the Biblical aspects, but would venture that

the vegan way of life is not founded on any religion.

 

This page may offer a better explanation:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism

 

 

Hope this helps,

-Erin

www.zenpawn.com/vegblog

[Guest guest]

The reason vegans don't eat fish is that fish are animals. They can learn,

they can feel. A true vegan would avoid using any kind of animal product;

that means not eating them, wearing them, or otherwise consuming them. A

true vegetarian (not even vegan) would not eat fish, for the same reason.

It is an animal. Vegetarians might eat eggs and/or dairy products, but not

fish. There is a group of semi-vegetarians who eat fish - pescaterians.

Most vegetarians do not consider them true vegetarians.

 

 

 

On a related subject, it looks like vegetarians who eat ice cream are

getting more than they bargained for. They might have to start calling

themselves pescaterians.

 

 

 

From the Organic Consumers Association:

PRODUCT PLUNDER OF THE WEEK:

BREYERS AND GOOD HUMOR

Breyers Ice Cream is beginning to utilize what it calls an " anti-

freeze " technology, derived by utilizing genetically modified fish

proteins from the blood of the ocean pout (a polar ocean species). The

experimental biotech substance, which is supposed to help the ice cream

recrystallize if it warms above freezing, has undergone little, if any,

safety testing. In fact, the FDA approved the ingredient as " safe "

based on human safety protocols conducted on codfish blood proteins,

not on blood proteins from the ocean pout. Codfish and the ocean pout

do not even belong to the same sub-class, in the " Order of Species, "

thereby making the studies worthless. The " anti-freeze " ingredient is

currently used in Breyer's Light Double-Churned, Extra Creamy Creamy

Chocolate ice cream, as well as a Good Humor ice cream novelty bar. The

ingredient is referred to as " ice structuring protein " (ISP) on the

products' ingredient panels.

Learn more: <http://www.organicconsumers.org/2006/article_3637.cfm>

http://www.organicconsumers.org/2006/article_3637.cfm

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

That ice cream info is so gross you would think us veggies would be toothpicks

seems like every day I learn of another product we cant eat.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

oh noooooooo...not Breyer's.

 

Maida W Genser <maidawg wrote:

From the Organic Consumers Association:

PRODUCT PLUNDER OF THE WEEK:

BREYERS AND GOOD HUMOR

Breyers Ice Cream is beginning to utilize what it calls an " anti-

freeze " technology, .....

 

 

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[Guest guest]

, Steph <mrswalp29

wrote:

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> That ice cream info is so gross you would think us veggies would be

toothpicks seems like every day I learn of another product we cant

eat.

>

 

Similarly, you'll want to be sure your beer and wine

is not made with fining agents derived from fish:

 

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/geraint.bevan/Vegetarian_beers.html

 

It also lists wines, but there are many missing from

both the beers and wines that are safe. I usually

just send mail to the company in question to verify.

 

Wines I like that are also made without isinglass include

Our Daily Red and Yellow Tail brands.

 

As for beers, Rogue Ales and Lagers are also acceptable.

 

 

-Erin

www.zenpawn.com/vegblog

[Guest guest]

I read about the wine thing in VegNews magazine. Do you know of any beers you

can drink my hubby is into beer. What ingredient am I looking to avoid again?

Steph

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

It was in my original post:

 

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/geraint.bevan/Vegetarian_beers.html

 

There are other compilations too.

 

And, I mentioned that Rogue (one of my favorite microbrews),

not listed in the above, is safe too (I confirmed via email

with them). You are trying to avoid isinglass, but as it's

just used for the fining step, it is not on the ingredients.

 

 

-Erin

www.zenpawn.com/vegblog

 

 

, Steph <mrswalp29

wrote:

>

> I read about the wine thing in VegNews magazine. Do you know of any

beers you can drink my hubby is into beer. What ingredient am I

looking to avoid again?

> Steph

[Guest guest]

Oh no... not beer! Any Australians on the list know if Boags is okay?

I always like to try a local beer when I go away on Holiday too - this

could ruin so much fun! I wonder if Sakkara Gold is okay too?

 

Zahira

 

 

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> Similarly, you'll want to be sure your beer and wine

> is not made with fining agents derived from fish:

>

> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/geraint.bevan/Vegetarian_beers.html