raw peas please?

January 23, 2007

I've been trying out a vegan 100% raw food intake for 2 weeks.

It's funny cos I do the cooking in our house - not because I'm

cullinary gifted but cos I'm vegan, my wife isn't, and she doesn't

want to go to the trouble of doing two meals - and she is to cooking

what a banana is to a wheelbarrow. The result is she's a de facto

veggie cos I won't cook meat. (I'm no accessory to murder!)

Last night I did a stir fry. Normally I'd have marinated tofu (yummy)

and she'd have cashew nute as the protein, and we'd have bean spouts,

peppers, tomatoes, sweetcorn, bamboo shoots, the usual chinese or

thai stir fry veggies, fried in olive oil and soy sauce.

So I did the same as usual for her and the same but raw (minus the

tofu & soy sauce) for my raw diet - tossed in olive oil. Delicious.

Both plates looked almost identical, but it took me longer to eat!

So my quetion is - eventually - sometimes I add peas or edamame soya

beans to the mix. I see in some magazines that many people eat peas

raw. I know I wouldn't die if I ate a few, but I'm sure I read

decades ago that humans digestive systems would have problems with

eating raw legumes in any number or say every day for long times.

Something to do with breaking down the phytic acid?

Any observations please?

Geoff

January 23, 2007

Next time you see them available, buy a peck of fresh green peas & eat them out

of the pod. You'll think you'd died & gone to heaven they are soo sweet &

yummy. A July fave at our house.

Beth

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January 23, 2007

> Next time you see them available, buy a peck of fresh green peas & eat them

out of the

pod. You'll think you'd died & gone to heaven they are soo sweet & yummy. A

July fave at

our house.

Yes, at our house too - when we can get them I really don't like peas

'cooked' very much

if they must be cooked - sort of warmed through is about my speed! (Nope, not a

raw

foodist, just weird about some veggies.)

Never had any digestive problems with them either

Love, Pat

January 23, 2007

I have eaten the odd handful of garden peas straight from the pod and

yes, they are scrumptious. Butbutbut are they good or bad for you in

the long run if gobbled every day?

I've met folk who say they've eaten them all their lives and 'done

them no harm.' But how do they know that the odd stomach ache or

flaky skin, headache, etc wasn't attributable to eating raw peas -

with its potential toxins and phytic acid, which are removed or

altered by cooking? And I want to live longer than the few decades

they refer to.

If they are safe what is this all about?

" Many vegetables contain natural toxins which are inactivated by

steaming or boiling for a few minutes.

*Dr. Andrew Weil specifically recommends against eating raw peas,

chickpeas, beans, alfalfa sprouts, lentil sprouts, mung bean sprouts,

and white mushrooms.

*Avoid celery with brown patches because they are caused by a fungus

which contains natural toxins.

*Heating vegetables may destroy the enzymes which help us to digest

them; this is the rationale for supplemental digestive enzyme

therapy.

*Steaming vegetables instead of microwaving them will preserve more

of the antioxidants in the vegetables.

from this website?

http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~shlevy/diet.htm

Geoff

January 23, 2007

OK, here's my response, for what it's worth:

The Vegetarian Society warns only against raw kidney and soy beans. See

http://www.vegsoc.org/info/pulses.html

For the OTHER side of the picture of natural toxins in peas, etc., read these:

http://chetday.com/sprouttoxins.html

http://www.living-foods.com/articles/sproutmyths.html

My thoughts?

I would think that if someone found the two websites above more convincing than

the one

cited below, then they would eat raw peas with enjoyment. If that same person,

despite

the debunking of the 'toxin myth', were still sure they needed to be frightened,

then they

would probably leave such veg alone altogether for fear they had not been boiled

long

enough. If, however, they were unsure and didn't feel strongly either way, then

I would

think they might decide happily to eat raw peas in reasonable amounts on

occasion rather

than, as suggested below, excessively 'gobbled every day'. But I am notoriously

bad at

predicting human behaviour

Good luck

Love, Pat

> I have eaten the odd handful of garden peas straight from the pod and

> yes, they are scrumptious. Butbutbut are they good or bad for you in

> the long run if gobbled every day?

>

> I've met folk who say they've eaten them all their lives and 'done

> them no harm.' But how do they know that the odd stomach ache or

> flaky skin, headache, etc wasn't attributable to eating raw peas -

> with its potential toxins and phytic acid, which are removed or

> altered by cooking? And I want to live longer than the few decades

> they refer to.

>

> If they are safe what is this all about?

> " Many vegetables contain natural toxins which are inactivated by

> steaming or boiling for a few minutes.

> *Dr. Andrew Weil specifically recommends against eating raw peas,

> chickpeas, beans, alfalfa sprouts, lentil sprouts, mung bean sprouts,

> and white mushrooms.

> *Avoid celery with brown patches because they are caused by a fungus

> which contains natural toxins.

> *Heating vegetables may destroy the enzymes which help us to digest

> them; this is the rationale for supplemental digestive enzyme

> therapy.

> *Steaming vegetables instead of microwaving them will preserve more

> of the antioxidants in the vegetables.

>

> from this website?

> http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~shlevy/diet.htm

>

> Geoff

>

January 23, 2007

Pat,

that was an excellent answer. Thanks muchly. Sorry if I gave an

alarmist question.

I continue my raw food vegan diet with a settled mind

Geoff

, " Pat " <drpatsant

wrote:

>

> OK, here's my response, for what it's worth:

>

> The Vegetarian Society warns only against raw kidney and soy beans.

See

> http://www.vegsoc.org/info/pulses.html

>

> For the OTHER side of the picture of natural toxins in peas, etc.,

read these:

>

> http://chetday.com/sprouttoxins.html

>

> http://www.living-foods.com/articles/sproutmyths.html

>

> My thoughts?

> I would think that if someone found the two websites above more

convincing than the one

> cited below, then they would eat raw peas with enjoyment. If that

same person, despite

> the debunking of the 'toxin myth', were still sure they needed to

be frightened, then they

> would probably leave such veg alone altogether for fear they had

not been boiled long

> enough. If, however, they were unsure and didn't feel strongly

either way, then I would

> think they might decide happily to eat raw peas in reasonable

amounts on occasion rather

> than, as suggested below, excessively 'gobbled every day'. But I am

notoriously bad at

> predicting human behaviour

>

> Good luck

>

> Love, Pat

>

> > I have eaten the odd handful of garden peas straight from the pod

and

> > yes, they are scrumptious. Butbutbut are they good or bad for you

in

> > the long run if gobbled every day?

> >

> > I've met folk who say they've eaten them all their lives

and 'done

> > them no harm.' But how do they know that the odd stomach ache or

> > flaky skin, headache, etc wasn't attributable to eating raw peas -

> > with its potential toxins and phytic acid, which are removed or

> > altered by cooking? And I want to live longer than the few

decades

> > they refer to.

> >

> > If they are safe what is this all about?

> > " Many vegetables contain natural toxins which are inactivated by

> > steaming or boiling for a few minutes.

> > *Dr. Andrew Weil specifically recommends against eating raw

peas,

> > chickpeas, beans, alfalfa sprouts, lentil sprouts, mung bean

sprouts,

> > and white mushrooms.

> > *Avoid celery with brown patches because they are caused by a

fungus

> > which contains natural toxins.

> > *Heating vegetables may destroy the enzymes which help us to

digest

> > them; this is the rationale for supplemental digestive enzyme

> > therapy.

> > *Steaming vegetables instead of microwaving them will preserve

more

> > of the antioxidants in the vegetables.

> >

> > from this website?

> > http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~shlevy/diet.htm

> >

> > Geoff

> >

>

January 23, 2007

there will always be somebody saying there is wrong with something just as there

will always be someone saying that the same thing is the greatest. if you're

THAT worried, then don't eat them. simple as that.

Geoff Nelder <geoffnelder wrote:

Beth

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relationship--one person who is there for them--can make a huge difference.”

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January 24, 2007

> that was an excellent answer. Thanks muchly. Sorry if I gave an

> alarmist question.

Thanks You're welcome And not to apologize, Geoff, because if you can't

ask

questions here where can you ask them, eh?

Enjoy!

January 24, 2007

Yes, I only cook them a few minutes as well. Any leftovers go into the food

processor w/some broth, lettuce (yeah, really!) & some seasoning for Fresh Pea

soup. Delightful!

Pat <drpatsant wrote: Yes, at our house too - when we can

get them I really don't like peas 'cooked' very much if they must be cooked -

sort of warmed through is about my speed!

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> Yes, I only cook them a few minutes as well. Any leftovers go into the food

processor

w/some broth, lettuce (yeah, really!) & some seasoning for Fresh Pea soup.

Delightful!

Sounds lovely! You're ever inventive in the kitchen, Bethie.

Love, Pat

January 24, 2007

My sister's kids love frozen peas -- yes, frozen, never been cooked

peas. She's been feeding them frozen peas since they were babies.

They like to eat them plain or with ranch dressing.

She started feeding the oldest one frozen veggies when she was

teething and didn't have dinner ready. She was trying to distract the

baby from the fact that she wasn't going to eat for another 15 minutes

or so.

Anyway, my niece loved the frozen veggies and ate them all up. So my

sister has continued to feed her other kids frozen veggies too.

They don't seem to have any issues with eating frozen, raw peas, so I

don't imagine that you would either.

, " Geoff Nelder "

<geoffnelder wrote:

>

> I've been trying out a vegan 100% raw food intake for 2 weeks.

>

> It's funny cos I do the cooking in our house - not because I'm

> cullinary gifted but cos I'm vegan, my wife isn't, and she doesn't

> want to go to the trouble of doing two meals - and she is to cooking

> what a banana is to a wheelbarrow. The result is she's a de facto

> veggie cos I won't cook meat. (I'm no accessory to murder!)

>

> Last night I did a stir fry. Normally I'd have marinated tofu (yummy)

> and she'd have cashew nute as the protein, and we'd have bean spouts,

> peppers, tomatoes, sweetcorn, bamboo shoots, the usual chinese or

> thai stir fry veggies, fried in olive oil and soy sauce.

>

> So I did the same as usual for her and the same but raw (minus the

> tofu & soy sauce) for my raw diet - tossed in olive oil. Delicious.

> Both plates looked almost identical, but it took me longer to eat!

>

> So my quetion is - eventually - sometimes I add peas or edamame soya

> beans to the mix. I see in some magazines that many people eat peas

> raw. I know I wouldn't die if I ate a few, but I'm sure I read

> decades ago that humans digestive systems would have problems with

> eating raw legumes in any number or say every day for long times.

> Something to do with breaking down the phytic acid?

>

> Any observations please?

>

> Geoff

>

January 24, 2007

I love raw peas. I never heard they were bad for you before.

Actually, I like to eat frozen peas right out of the bag - not as good as

fresh, but sometimes the " fresh " ones are not as fresh picked and sweet as

the frozen ones.

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January 25, 2007

Thanks Pat but not really...found the recipe on the internet & it's so simple I

can remember it!

Pat <drpatsant wrote: > Yes, I only cook them a few minutes

as well. Any leftovers go into the food processor w/some broth, lettuce (yeah,

really!) & some seasoning for Fresh Pea soup. Delightful!

Sounds lovely! You're ever inventive in the kitchen, Bethie.

Love, Pat

Beth

“The right adult at the right time can make an enormous difference. Many kids

have a history of difficult, disappointing relationships and one good

relationship--one person who is there for them--can make a huge difference.”

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Boston.

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> Thanks Pat but not really...found the recipe on the internet & it's so simple

I can

remember it!

Did a quick search, scrapped the ones that weren't simple, and came up with one

that

probably isn't the one you make, but it looks good anyway

http://www.abc.net.au/perth/stories/s287819.htm

Haven't tried it, please note.

One could use less butter or oil, if being strict about fats, skip the

asafoetida if disliked

and sub a little minced garlic (maybe?) and skip the high-cal optional

ingredient. Mint

would be nice

Is this ANYTHING like yours, Beth?

Love, Pat

January 25, 2007

Yes! but I'd do as you say (why the hex use asafoetida?? bleah)...I'd saute some

onion in 1-2TB butter or oil, put that, peas, garlic never hurts, lettuce &

stock on the pulverizer & whizzzzzz on. I like the addition of cream myself.

This is good chilled in the summer. Not sure where I found the recipe(s) I

used - I had 2 but liked one better. Now I'm on a mission.

Pat <drpatsant wrote:

> Thanks Pat but not really...found the recipe on the internet & it's so simple

I can

remember it!

Did a quick search, scrapped the ones that weren't simple, and came up with one

that

probably isn't the one you make, but it looks good anyway

http://www.abc.net.au/perth/stories/s287819.htm

Haven't tried it, please note.

One could use less butter or oil, if being strict about fats, skip the

asafoetida if disliked

and sub a little minced garlic (maybe?) and skip the high-cal optional

ingredient. Mint

would be nice

Is this ANYTHING like yours, Beth?

Love, Pat

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>why the hex use asafoetida?? bleah

LOL Yeah. But the cook who offered it may have had philosophical/religious

reasons for

avoiding the onions and garlic. If one doesn't have that, then add by all means,

to taste. It

could also be a traditional recipe.

I like your ideas for the soup, especially for a 'special' meal And that's

what I mean about

your being a creative cook And heaven help cyberspace with Beth on a

mission!!!!!

Hugs, Pat

> Yes! but I'd do as you say (why the hex use asafoetida?? bleah)...I'd saute

some onion in

1-2TB butter or oil, put that, peas, garlic never hurts, lettuce & stock on the

pulverizer &

whizzzzzz on. I like the addition of cream myself. This is good chilled in

the summer.

Not sure where I found the recipe(s) I used - I had 2 but liked one better. Now

I'm on a

mission.

January 25, 2007

Has everyone found this website?

http://www.theveggietable.com/recipes/freshpeasoup.html

They're mostly the same so I've no idea what I originally followed. I had

forgotten how well scallions & peas go together.

Pat <drpatsant wrote:

>why the hex use asafoetida?? bleah

LOL Yeah. But the cook who offered it may have had philosophical/religious

reasons for avoiding the onions and garlic. If one doesn't have that, then add

by all means, to taste. It could also be a traditional recipe.

>>>Oh, ok. I'd rather have onions & garlic!

I like your ideas for the soup, especially for a 'special' meal And that's

what I mean about your being a creative cook And heaven help cyberspace with

Beth on a mission!!!!!

>>>heehee

Hugs, Pat

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Thanks for the link! I haven't seen that one before and I am always up for