Guest guest Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 Hello all. I have been here for a few months...watching and taking it all in. I have appreciated the great recipes I have received as well as tips on new dishes. I have been placed in some awkward eating situations and have found myself trying to eat meat again. But I do not enjoy it so I feel that I am really ready to conform to the vegetarian lifestyle. But I am in desperate need of help. Does anyone know of any natural cleansing methods that will help get rid of toxins caused by former meat eating? Are there things to do/eat to make the transition easier? Im trying to do a low carb/high protein diet in attmpts to lose weight. Unfortunately I am allergic to nuts so where do I make sure I get all the proteins and vitamins that I need? Your help is greatly appreciated! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 Are you vegan or lacto ovo? I did a google search not long ago for low-carb vegetarian foods/recipes and there is a good amount of information out there. Pam On 29 Mar 2007 08:54:43 -0700, honeycarmelcutie <honeycarmelcutie wrote: > > Hello all. I have been here for a few months...watching and taking it > all in. I have appreciated the great recipes I have received as well as > tips on new dishes. I have been placed in some awkward eating > situations and have found myself trying to eat meat again. But I do not > enjoy it so I feel that I am really ready to conform to the vegetarian > lifestyle. But I am in desperate need of help. Does anyone know of any > natural cleansing methods that will help get rid of toxins caused by > former meat eating? Are there things to do/eat to make the transition > easier? Im trying to do a low carb/high protein diet in attmpts to lose > weight. Unfortunately I am allergic to nuts so where do I make sure I > get all the proteins and vitamins that I need? Your help is greatly > appreciated! :-) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 Hello there again - Nice to hear from you! >Does anyone know of any > natural cleansing methods that will help get rid of toxins caused by > former meat eating? Cruciferous vegetables. That means eating lots of any of the following that appeal to you: cauliflower, broccoli, kale, cabbage, brussels sprouts, bok choy, rutabega, etc. etc. Google on cruciferous vegetables or find a list at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruciferous_vegetables > Are there things to do/eat to make the transition > easier? Well, you can try the faux/fake 'meat' products on the market - Boca Burgers, Gimme Lean, and all the various types of pretend chicken, beef, fish, etc. There are also 'deli meats' such as veggie hot dogs, veggie Canadian bacon, veggie ham, veggie pepperoni, etc., which although not always convincing to a meat eater on their own can certainly be incorporated into dishes which take other ingredients besides the 'meat' - eg. the veggie burger for chili, etc., the chikken for soups and stews or flavourfully sauced, and so on. Btw, the veggie burgers taste really good as they are, but especially in a bun with all the fixings, and the veggie 'dogs' are delish and appeal even to meat eaters (and they come fat-free in the brands I know - read the label). I don't advocate fake meats as a total way of eating, but these things do help out when you have a craving to eat things you are accustomed to eat. They are therefore good for transition. > Im trying to do a low carb/high protein diet in attmpts to lose > weight. Any one diet in particular? Perhaps if you name it, you might find someone else here trying it. > Unfortunately I am allergic to nuts so where do I make sure I > get all the proteins and vitamins that I need? Well, the answer is pretty much the same as before: You don't need as much protein as you think you do, and most people would be wise to avoid the health problems connected with eating too much protein. There is protein in most things you would eat, so there's not really a problem with getting 'enough'. Grains and legumes (beans and lentils) have loads of protein. And most vegetables have some protein in them. I could go on and on, but I'll wait for your response first, okay? Good luck with your new lifestyle - it's not a problem, you know. Truly! Best love, Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 In fact, *all* vegetables have protein in them. All plants and animals are composed of cells, and cells cannot be built or operate without protein. When I tracked my diet, I have never had any problem getting enough protein. The nutrients I have to watch, are, oddly enough, potassium and vitamins A and D. Pam On 29 Mar 2007 14:01:42 -0700, Pat <drpatsant wrote: > > Well, the answer is pretty much the same as before: You don't need > as much protein as you think you do, and most people would be wise > to avoid the health problems connected with eating too much protein. > There is protein in most things you would eat, so there's not really a > problem with getting 'enough'. Grains and legumes (beans and lentils) > have loads of protein. And most vegetables have some protein in them. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 > In fact, *all* vegetables have protein in them. All plants and animals are > composed of cells, and cells cannot be built or operate without protein. Absolutely right. Thanks for the correction of a thoughtless statement Mind you, there's precious little in iceberg lettuce, say, or a lime etc., but it IS there. And in any case, that's not what you were meaning at all. The 'Diet Industry' (and a certain now-departed weight-loss guru that this low-fat group and others loves to hate) has much to answer for in its pushing of protein protein protein. Somewhere recently I read a rule of thumb for how much protein per kg of body weight, but I could be mis-remembering it. Was it 0.72 per kg? That still seems high to me. *shrug* Generally, however, it is accepted that strict vegetarians and vegans, can get quite enough protein by eating a wide variety of different foods without having to go to any interesting lengths to 'get enough' - right? The problem would be in overloading on protein Love, Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 For women, 40-46 g per day of protein; 10-20% of your overall calories. I see .8 per kg for men, so .72 per kg in women would make sense. Here's a nice little table (okay, I lied, it's huge) of sources of protein in order of protein as a percentage of calories (ie. most protein per calorie at the top). It includes both veg and non-veg sources of protein. Reference is per 100 gram serving. http://www.soystache.com/protein.htm The USDA database is a good place to look up the nutrient contents of particular foods: http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/ Pam On 29 Mar 2007 15:12:58 -0700, Pat <drpatsant wrote: > > > In fact, *all* vegetables have protein in them. All plants and animals > are > > composed of cells, and cells cannot be built or operate without protein. > > Absolutely right. Thanks for the correction of a thoughtless statement > Mind you, there's precious little in iceberg lettuce, say, or a lime etc., > but > it IS there. And in any case, that's not what you were meaning at all. > > The 'Diet Industry' (and a certain now-departed weight-loss guru > that this low-fat group and others loves to hate) has much to answer for > in > its pushing of protein protein protein. > > Somewhere recently I read a rule of thumb for how much protein per kg > of body weight, but I could be mis-remembering it. Was it 0.72 per kg? > That still seems high to me. *shrug* > > Generally, however, it is accepted that strict vegetarians and vegans, can > get quite enough protein by eating a wide variety of different foods > without > having to go to any interesting lengths to 'get enough' - right? The > problem > would be in overloading on protein > > Love, Pat > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 Thank you so much for all the info! Im looking forward to getting new ideas and finding some tasty alternatives :-) " Dream as if you will live forever....Live as if you will die Today! " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 Im trying to stay away from the " fake meats " as I don't think they will compare with the real thing. I think Im going to stick to regular veggies and carbs (whole wheat). As for a particular diet plan...I don't have one. I figured If I ate more whole wheat carbs, fruits and veggies and worked out at least 3 times a week then I would lose weight. Any advice on a particular one that would help me reach my weight loss goals? " Dream as if you will live forever....Live as if you will die Today! " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 To ensure I get enough vitamins Im going to take a muti vitamin. I also have biotin (to promote healthy hair skin and nail) and chromium piconolate (to help burn carbs/fat). Has anyone here taken either of these? Thanks again guys for all your help! -HCC " Dream as if you will live forever....Live as if you will die Today! " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 > Im trying to stay away from the " fake meats " as I don't think they will compare with the real thing. OK - that was just to answer what your query of what you could 'eat to make transition easier' I see your earlier message said you had tried me*t again but had not enjoyed it, so I guess you wouldn't WANT fake me*t to compare in taste with the 'real thing' anyway. Luckily they don't much. It's more a matter of appearance and texture and certain go-with flavourings that we associate with some me*t dishes. Burgers are handy to know about because they are available in otherwise me*t-only restaurants and let you join in with your friends. > Im going to stick to regular veggies and carbs (whole wheat). Good idea. And maybe think of other grains too. And how about lentils and beans? > I figured If I ate more whole wheat carbs, fruits and veggies and worked out at least 3 times a week then I would lose weight. And cut down on your fat intake too? That helps a lot. > Any advice on a particular one that would help me reach my weight loss goals? Well, if you are going to restrict yourself to 'regular veggies and carbs' that is a vegan diet. If you also keep away from the junk food and sweets, you'll probably lost weight on that. See how you're doing after a couple of weeks! Good luck, Love, Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 > To ensure I get enough vitamins Im going to take a muti vitamin. I'd think you'd be eating LOTS of vitamins on a good stictly vegetarian diet. However, if you're a belt-and-braces kind of person, as I tend to be too, it doesn't hurt to buy a good veg multivitamin because it also will include B12, which you might otherwise worry about (although you've enough in your body to last you several years). VegLife puts out a multivitamin that I take when the spirit moves me, which is to say I have it there on my shelf because I was brought up to take vitamins whether they were appropriate or not *shrug*. >I also > have biotin (to promote healthy hair skin and nail) If you've been taking that (although I thought biotin defficiency was rare), you might find that it is also contained in your multi-vitamins. It is in mine (just checked). > and chromium > piconolate (to help burn carbs/fat). Nope, never tried that Supplements are rarely needed for those on a healthy, varied diet - and a varied vegan diet (which you are proposing for yourself) is indeed in the category of 'healthy' LOL Don't believe the meat- producers propaganda - you not only don't need it, but it has been found not to be good for you. Best love, Pat ---- Dr Patricia Sant Bean Vegan: http://beanvegan.blogspot.com Vegan World Cuisine: http://www.care2.com/c2cvegworld " The question is not, 'Can they reason?' nor, 'Can they talk?' but rather, 'Can they suffer?' " (Jeremy Bentham, 1749-1832) ______________________________\ ____ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search./shortcuts/#loc_weather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 lacto ovo :-) " Dream as if you will live forever....Live as if you will die Today! " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 Eggs and dairy are both high in protein. Egg whites have no fat and you can make all kinds of omelets or other treats. Mix some fat-free tofu in there too, for a combined egg/tofu scramble. Here you can get fat-free cottage cheese, yoghurt, sour cream, etc. No fat-free hard cheeses here, but I understand they are pretty easy to find in the US. Pam On 30 Mar 2007 19:34:46 -0700, Lawyer Girl <honeycarmelcutie wrote: > > lacto ovo :-) > > " Dream as if you will live forever....Live as if you will die Today! " > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 Thanks! I like eggsalad....I would like to try to mix some tofu with the egg whites..I didn't know that the yolks had so much cholesterol...whats the difference in the firmness of tofu are there different flavors? " Dream as if you will live forever....Live as if you will die Today! " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 The best " boiled egg " texture would be firm or extra firm silken tofu. Soft tofus are good for desserts (puddings, etc.) and smoothies. Or as a fat substitute in baking (like brownies). You can get flavoured dessert tofus. You can also get smoked tofu, marinated tofu, etc. for dinners. To mix in with scrambled eggs, you probably don't want silken tofu. Probably medium or firm. Pam On 3/31/07, Lawyer Girl <honeycarmelcutie wrote: > > Thanks! I like eggsalad....I would like to try to mix some tofu with the > egg whites..I didn't know that the yolks had so much cholesterol...whats the > difference in the firmness of tofu are there different flavors? > > " Dream as if you will live forever....Live as if you will die Today! " > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 Yes, BUT they are kinda funky. I just used some FF mozzarella & the stuff doesn't melt 'properly' & hardens like a rock when cooled - not ooey gooey like mozz should be. The cheddar & jack cheeses melt kind of grainy - just not right. Personally, I'm not going below reduced fat. Beth pdw <pdworkman wrote: No fat-free hard cheeses here, but I understand they are pretty easy to find in the US. Recent Activity 9 New Members 1 New Links 3 New Files Visit Your Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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